Pattaya Reports

[Turgid]

Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated ............

Attacks on a Cheap Charlie! How laughable in the Pattaya forum! Why pick on this guy when, from all accounts, most of the posters and residents here are Cheap Charlies?

[D Cups]

Arn Poddict,

Superb photo. Is it possible to just get her digits and not pay the barfine and lady drinks? Cheers.

[Paolo99]

But more important is that your post can be taken as confirmation of the prejudice about indian men: they treat women like second class humans.

I probably missed the part of his post where he was treating girls like "second class humans".

Anyway, even if his "tips" are not all very wise IMO (as said in a previous post, it's better to not be touchy feely with random girls in the streets or in the malls), I feel like his post is a mix of what we can read on ISG in the last few years on the Pattaya thread. The guy might even never have put a foot in Pattaya before editing his post.

It's OK to go in Pattaya and not spend loads of bucks on girls or drinks (Never paying drinks for bargirls or not taking a drink for oneself is a bad advice though). There are probably more people doing it that way than the opposite way. It all depends on which reason you're there for and what you have most: time or money?

It's been a long time I didn't see a review about Insomnia or Ibar, is it still a sausage fuckfest? Last time I've been in Insomnia (in 2015) I found only one girl that looked ok and she quoted me 4 K. Normally I would laugh at such a price but I didn't even want to laugh as I was shocked at how the girls took advantage over the guys and were expecting to be paid such an amount in that shithole. I was a regular of that place untill 2012 and could regularly meet cute twenty'ish girls there, but then saw quality going down at each new trip and prices were going up in the same time.

Trying to bring down the soi6 girl at 800 is a good idea (but if she doesn't want and you like her, take her anyway), but is probably a better idea for guys that stay in Patts long time or go there regularly. It's been said multiple times on ISG that some of these girls are willing to lower their price to go with some customers.

Don't fall for the Russian / CIS girls is good advice, except if they are not WG.

[Traveller747]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

As others already posted: you give the advice for a cheap charly on a very low budget. So far, so good; not everyone is a big spender.

But more important is that your post can be taken as confirmation of the prejudice about indian men: they treat women like second class humans.

[Franciscass]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

Geez King, perhaps your post was meant to be informative and helpful but as you can see from most member's reactions cheeky cheap charlies with a self-described game are not really appreciated and sorry to say just perpetuate misguided prejudice's. Not sure if it's a budget issue with you, if so understandable but if not I would loosen the strings and who knows you may end up enjoying the experience of buying a drink for the locals without looking for something in return.

[Gin And Tonic]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

฿700? For a decent freelancer that sounds like a group rate. How many in your group to get it down to that price?

[Arn Poddict]

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

Since you are a young man in your mid 30's with OK game why bother paying the hookers? Pick up the freebies.

I don't mind at all paying 2500 for an hour of soapy massage and fuck with a talented 25-30 YO Thai woman who knows how to handle a cock. I had recently a very nice session in Sabai Room.

Yes Agogos are expensive but if I want to play with a 20-25 year old Thai body with nice natural tits in my hotel bed then I have to spend some cash. This one in the picture costed 1500 + 3000 + drinks.

[Falcon 95]

Apparently, Palace has happy hour now. Unfortunately, it starts at 01:30 AM. One of a kind.

[Rob Jones]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

Responding to you in no specific order.

6 There is a reason why Indians are not admitted to clubs or bars or have to pre-purchase a drink at the door.

5 1000 TBH is a reasonable price to pay a Soi 6 for ST. I would expect your experience would sub par if you did in FACT knock the price down to 800-900 Baht.

For a guy who claims he goes to Pattaya once every 2 years I am surprised by your meanness.

1 Accosting women may be acceptable where you come from but I do not think it is appealing to Thai women.

2 I think you are having yourself and the forum on if you are claiming to be fucking beautiful 25 year old women for 800 TBH.

4 TF works just fine, is the problem with the 10 minute wait between messaging? Buy premium while you are there you CHEAP CHARLIE.

3 Only once because you don't buy drinks and are not allowed back in? I don't see gogo's as setting any trends. Since you have eliminated almost every other form of acquiring sex in Pattaya you are stuck with Soi 6 who by the way probably detest you because of point 5.

[Ukman57]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

Being touchy feely with any woman in public places is a big NO NO in Thailand and you will soon get yourself into to problems should you carry on. Also Bars in Pattaya refuse admittance to people from India. The girl is doing a Job, if you refuse to buy her a LD as you advise then of course she is going to ignore you and be snobby because you think she is going to provide her company to you for free. Let me give you one bit of advice. If you want real fun in Pattaya you need to be prepared to splash the cash at least a little, or you are just going to be a miserable cheap charlie. You think a Soi 6 BG is going to let you fuck her for 800 baht? A good looking Girl will make more on Drinks and tips then let you fuck her for 800 baht, maybe with a older and uglier girl would go for 800 baht. You get what you pay for. And as they say in Pattaya "No money No honey good bye darling".

[Downandup]

Is Line the preferred mode of communication among Thai girls now?

Yes, it's more popular than Whatsapp in Asia and all the girls use it as data appears to be cheaper than voice.

[HectorG]

Hi,

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

Bollyking, excellent report. I had to Google "Line ID". Is Line the preferred mode of communication among Thai girls now? I've used WhatsApp in the past with girls I've met in clubs. Good call on Insomnia too. That's a great discoteque and I would guess 95% of the girls in there are WG.

[Bamboo Pete]

Some also have food and a pool

I went to homepages of G clubs and facebook, but I found only one club that has a pool (Heaven). Are there some others?

[Bollyking77]

Hi,

I'm mid 30's Indian who just visited Pattaya for the sixth time in 14 years. All my stays have been minimum a week long or so but I always rtff before landing here. Here are some tips from my experience:

1. If your game is OK try accosting beautiful women wherever you find them. Streets, malls, eateries, etc (your gut should tell they're WG). Don't lose a chance, don't be shy and don't be too cocky. Get chatting a few lines, get a bit touchy feely (they really don't mind that from a stranger IMHO) and exchange Line IDs. I've had the bestest of luck that way. In their downtime they may want to visit you. Although ST is normally quoted 1000 in bars, many of these girls can come 700-900 for ST if pursued rightly. And am talking about stunners.

2. If possible don't go for girls above 25 (unless you're itching a MILF that day) and in worst case 30. Just ask them to show their IDs playfully as they lie all the time. I feel women above 30 are a hardened lot, and the bodies aren't as elegant anymore. The choice of beautiful 20-something girls is plentiful here. Why settle for less, and reduce your ROI?

3. I personally just do GoGos only once per visit to see what's the latest trend. I think they've a total rip-off. They don't offer the best value for money for a real mongerer. And the girls are snobs there. Other waste of money are the soapies, oilies and overpriced Russian / CIS girls. Savor local while you're here.

4. Give a shot to Tinder and WeChat nearby function. Sometime you may find beautiful girls here. ThaiFriendly did not work for me and I hate its messaging system. So don't waste time on it.

5. On Soi 6, if a girl quotes you 1000, you should counter with 800. Tbh that's a very good price for 30 min boink, and the ones who don't accept that should be done away with.

6. Another big con-game is ladies drink. Never ever buy them. Just buy your drink and get on with the game, since your objective to be let sit in the bar is already met with that. And if your goal is to pick up a girl from that bar, don't order a drink for self unless you can somewhat sense that your target (s) is interested in going out with you. Otherwise just skirt from outside. Enquire barfine the first thing, that evinces your interest to pick up a girl and not just dawdle there. Some are 300 but a lot I see these days 400-500.

7. Try Insomnia and other clubs if you're in to freelancers. I really find them more easy going than establishment girls. Avoid beach road as lot of skanks and oldies there, they don't show a good sign of health.

[FL Hawk]

This is classic passive aggressive behavior of a bar girl.

Actually, it is not. I have only shared a fraction of the story.

In general, you are quite correct and you offer great advice on the subject. But, the responses I predict for Secret as being a typical BG are rarely even slightly accurate. A number of times I have predicted that she was about to ask for something or do something a BG would likely do, but she doesn't. She mostly has been acting like a normal woman who is depressed and unsure, who desperately wants to be loved but doesn't believe it will happen and who is doing something she finds repugnant and had never thought she would end up doing, so she holds back, and is afraid to open up. When she had to face remaining a BG for longer than what she was prepared to handle, facing men who degrade her, make fun of her, use use for fun and laughs, well, it finally made her so depressed she didn't want to talk to anyone about it. When you think you are bad, you tend to draw away from those you think good so you can stop thinking about how bad you think you are. I try to help her out here, reminding she is not bad, as she is trying to help her family.

She is starting to open up a bit more. I will be over there in 4 to 5 days but she has asked me nothing lately about me coming over. She did say she missed me finally, but it was "Miss you", not "When are you coming here to see me?! I miss you so much but you are ignoring me! Why? You find another girl?" That is BG talk! Secret never has been like that.

Anyway, the key thoughts are that we need to be careful. I am keeping a pretty good head on my shoulders here and not going off the deep end. If she stays a BG much longer I could see her staring to wonder why I am not doing more financially for her. I can understand a girl who is dying at her job wondering why her "rich" BF isn't helping her out much. Well, God lets us go through bad stuff and he doesn't help us much, but we hope he can at least give us comfort in our suffering and hope, eventually, for a better life. Which is what she is wanting for her and her family.