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  1. #33569
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    In 2017 I made arrangements with my all time favorite Nana Butterflies girl for 1 week for 15,000 baht. She was 28, cute, but not in the top 10% of Butterflies girls (certainly in the top 30%). This was a case where she was looking for a farang husband to provide lifetime financial security for her, her daughter, and other family members. The trip never happened because I came to my senses and backed out (I seldom even do overnights).

    There are many non-P4P girls (sort of) who do frequent "vacation girlfriend" trips. My main Thailand travel buddy has done several of these and has paid 20,000 to 35,000 baht for about 26 days. Payment is given to reimburse for lost work time, not for services. These are not the 20-something agogo girls, these are mid 30's to early 40's girls. I still keep in contact with 2 of his vacation girlfriends and 1 of them has made these trips into a decent business (she posts on ThaiFriendly as vacation tour guide). My buddys holiday girlfriends went to great lengths to keep him happy.

    In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).
    Thanks for the reply. It sounds like it was a wise decision to pass on that arrangement with her wanting more out of it. To me that seems like a good deal. Roughly 1000 us dollars for 26 days is top of the range? If she is pretty and really wants to make it a fun time for both especially seems like a good deal. And yes, I would want it to be at a nice resort and treat it like I do any vacation. Where is the easiest place to find the vacation girlfriends? I really miss the erotic review. Not sure if anyone here is familiar with it but it was an amazing site that the ladies would post on and there would be reports from others who had spent time with them. Sadly the government closed the site. It made it easy to find out what to expect from the girl in her attitude, what all she would do, described all of the looks on a ratings scale. Maybe another site like that exists but I don't know where. LOL.

    I wonder why the gogo girls are less likely to do the vacation girlfriend trips?

  2. #33568
    Quote Originally Posted by PDogger  [View Original Post]
    So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?
    Money is the ultimate equalizer the greater the difference between your attractiveness and her attractiveness the greater the amount of money and gifts expected. My own experience of a few girls over a period of 4 or 5 days was compensation longtime rate daily or just meals paid with a thank you token cash gift at the end.

  3. #33567
    Oops, a lady friend of mine started work at a bar last night, but the police closed it down. Then she transferred over to a bar on Soi Made in Thailand, but that's in ruins, so no customers. So maybe she is going to have a short career. The bar situation in Pattaya remains uncertain, as the rules are unclear.

    I'm with my ex in Bangkok now, she has a customer who wants to be full time with her, so to go on a trip with me, she had to lie to say her aunt is dying back in the village. Meanwhile, she is posting in her Facebook about this trip. She claims she has blocked her customer from her Facebook so he can't see her posts. Meanwhile, she plans to give him a new Facebook account with posts from her village. Normally, she would settle in with him to live full time, but he might not have enough funds to support her. And he has a Thai wife, so he can't marry her.

    Another lady sent me photos of Soi 6 on Messenger, there appears to be some open bars there now.

    I am renting a pool villa next week for 3 days, and have designated a lady to be in charge for each day. She will select the ladies and be in charge of the food for the ladies. I will handle the drinks and setting up the music. The boss lady will sleep with me, the other ladies in the second bedroom. That will be pretty much my last time I host multiple ladies for drinking, I expect to do something different in 2022.

  4. #33566

    Holiday Girlfriends

    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    ...In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).
    So realistically it's more like being a temporary "sugar daddy" to a short-term tour guide / translator?

  5. #33565

    Holiday Girlfriends.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone here got a girl for like a week or even a 3-4 days? Short term GF so to say? How did it go? How much can you expect to pay for a pretty decent looking chicks time? Thailand is a bucket list item of mine and touring with a chick. Haha.
    In 2017 I made arrangements with my all time favorite Nana Butterflies girl for 1 week for 15,000 baht. She was 28, cute, but not in the top 10% of Butterflies girls (certainly in the top 30%). This was a case where she was looking for a farang husband to provide lifetime financial security for her, her daughter, and other family members. The trip never happened because I came to my senses and backed out (I seldom even do overnights).

    There are many non-P4P girls (sort of) who do frequent "vacation girlfriend" trips. My main Thailand travel buddy has done several of these and has paid 20,000 to 35,000 baht for about 26 days. Payment is given to reimburse for lost work time, not for services. These are not the 20-something agogo girls, these are mid 30's to early 40's girls. I still keep in contact with 2 of his vacation girlfriends and 1 of them has made these trips into a decent business (she posts on ThaiFriendly as vacation tour guide). My buddys holiday girlfriends went to great lengths to keep him happy.

    In addition to the money given to the girls, they expect you to provide a nice travel experience. Nice hotel or resort, nice meals at nice restaurants, tours, and maybe some gifts (gold jewelry is preferred because they can exchange it for cash after you are gone).

  6. #33564
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    Thai Smile has many flights operating now, so I don't understand your reference.
    Oops, I forgot to mention thatthe flights will start operating from India since Jan 2.

    From the rest of the world there are many flights already working.

  7. #33563
    If you are from India:

    ICICI Lombard insurance has covid written on first page. It is cheapest insurance. It gives 5 pages in PDF but you can take screenshot of first page only and attach the first page only in thailand pass process. There is a provision to attach 3 pdf files on last stage of application. You can attach your insurance pdf file there. Simple as that. Also, flights of Thai airways will fly from 2 Jan onwards, so book them. Thank me later.

  8. #33562

    Pattaya advice?

    Hello mongers,

    Hope everyone is doing well. I've been following this thread for a while now since I had a trip to Thailand come on my itinerary. I'm coming to Thailand soon in January for around 11-14 days and I'm thinking of splitting it up between Bangkok and Pattaya. This is my first time coming to Thailand and have a couple of questions and wondering if anyone could help me? First of is 6 days enough to visit Pattaya? Is it better to visit it on during the week or are weekends in Pattaya more crazy? Lastly. Any hotel recommendations please? I'm looking at the Hilton Pattaya and wondering if there are any other guest friendly hotels you guys would recommend? Hard Rock Cafe Hotel? Are all hotels in Pattaya guest friendly overall? Or do 5 star hotels have a strict no guest policy?

    If mongers are down for a beer when I there let me know I'll gladly buy you a beer!

  9. #33561
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueMoon22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone here got a girl for like a week or even a 3-4 days? Short term GF so to say? How did it go? How much can you expect to pay for a pretty decent looking chicks time? Thailand is a bucket list item of mine and touring with a chick. Haha.
    There's always chick's who go on Tour. As far as decent looking it depends on your definition of decent looking.

    Hot agogo girls don't want to do overnight long time. I can't possibly think they want a 5 day Gig.

    Now if you pay $300 plus at day I'm sure you will find someone OK.

  10. #33560
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I get ladies who drink with me telling stories about customers, and the most common are customers who don't fuck.
    I suspect this is all lies from your lady friends.

    I occasionally heard the same thing with a few girls in the past, and each time it was big lies. Most of the time they were bullshitting for no reason, just girls that like to talk a lot, so they told a lot of false stories.

    But I still suspect some others were done purposely to lead me to something than I didn't want maybe.

  11. #33559
    Quote Originally Posted by Downandup  [View Original Post]
    Ban Chang is not in a zone where they allow even restaurants to sell alcohol. There have been repeated reports of bars being forced to close.
    Not a good idea to go into a closed bar. Only a matter of time before the police raid the bar.

  12. #33558

    Pattaya now

    Its gonna be years to rebuild this.

    https://youtu.be/wN3z-v--3As

  13. #33557
    Quote Originally Posted by Visal  [View Original Post]
    Pattaya had the highest crowd of girls and customers yesterday. Reported by my Indian friends on youtube. Almost all bars are working with some clubs like Hooters working too, as seen in their youtube videos. Not many freelancers on the beach road but you can find them at other popular spots and bars in Pattaya.

    The airline "Thai smile" is going to fly since 2nd January with only 3 flights per week, while from 15th January it will fly daily.

    Bangkok also has the Nana plaza operating with girls and customers till 11 in night now. Many bars working and many clubs working too. Mongers can have fun for sure.

    If you want a completely bustling city right now itself, then take 1 more flight from Bangkok to Phuket and you will see 50 girls standing outside popular bars.
    Thai Smile has many flights operating now, so I don't understand your reference.

    The bar situation in Pattaya is a mess now. Bars are pretending to be restaurants but are not appropriately licensed. I can see about 30 days of raids and mayhem until January 16. Meanwhile, Omicron will do its best to generate more lockdowns.

    I am working on a new strategy for hooking up with ladies, but in the meantime, I am banging the twins nightly. My ex has informed her customer boyfriend that she has a family emergency and is going back to the village. Meanwhile, we are on our way to Chiang Rai for a week. That means I will not see her sister for a week. That's a bit frustrating, because her sister was just learning how to fuck.

  14. #33556
    Quote Originally Posted by JavaMan  [View Original Post]
    They've been open for some time now. I went yesterday. I've been going off and on for over a month. More bars have opened this week, and there are more ladies. But the quality of the ladies is lacking. Falang bar has some younger talent, but they're more interested in getting LD's and don't allow much hands on. Another bar is full of Old out of shape ladies. (They're not MILF's. !

    I would say there's a handful of decent looking ladies in the bars there. I keep returning, hopeful, that each trip gets better. Also all the bars look like they're closed. (Shutters down.) Just knock / ring the door bell. Sometimes the ladies are sitting outside.
    Ban Chang is not in a zone where they allow even restaurants to sell alcohol. There have been repeated reports of bars being forced to close.

  15. #33555
    Pattaya had the highest crowd of girls and customers yesterday. Reported by my Indian friends on youtube. Almost all bars are working with some clubs like Hooters working too, as seen in their youtube videos. Not many freelancers on the beach road but you can find them at other popular spots and bars in Pattaya.

    The airline "Thai smile" is going to fly since 2nd January with only 3 flights per week, while from 15th January it will fly daily.

    Bangkok also has the Nana plaza operating with girls and customers till 11 in night now. Many bars working and many clubs working too. Mongers can have fun for sure.

    If you want a completely bustling city right now itself, then take 1 more flight from Bangkok to Phuket and you will see 50 girls standing outside popular bars.

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