Pattaya Reports

[Lefeu]

...If anyone here says money doesn't matter regarding the quality level of P4P pussy they're just plain living
in another world...

No kidding! So easy for some folks to hide behind a keyboard and write nonsense. It's all about the money, and if a chick thinks her pussy can Command a higher price, you can be sure she will ask for that.

[Dinghy]

I will be making my 3rd visit to Pattaya next week. Thinking that Songkram was from April 13-15, I figured I would totally miss it, but now I see that in Pattaya it runs until at least the 19th (next Tuesday). I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13? I understand Beach Road will be closed.

I presume there will be relatively little traffic heading in to Pattaya on the 19th, as Bell was showing around 30 open seats. And my hotel has been showing a cheap rate, which makes it appear that Pattaya will be in the low season even if Songkran won't yet be officially over. I would not mind a day of Songkran as I have never experienced it before, but I think one day would be plenty!

I will be in Pattaya a week, then will return to BKK for a week to see my "GF" again (a real life, super sweet, old fashioned Thai girl, still a virgin I met online a few year back), after which I will go, alone, to Phuket for 4 days, then either back to Pattaya for a few more days or possibly back to BKK to see the GF (if I manage to break through that kevlar hymen this time).

Looking forward to it, but hope the last day (s) of Songkran won't mess things up.

First off, go down to the 1st floor in the airport and right outside the food court is where the Jomtien bus leaves from hourly. Bell goes to the North road bus station. YOU WILL BE BETTER OFF GOING TO JOMTIEN because the connection back to Pattaya is better. A taxi is about 200 be.

Plan on getting WET unless you are in an ENCLOSED TAXI. Water water everywhere shot at you poured on you BUY A NECK WALLET (large ziploc bag) for 50 be or so or risk getting your phone soaked. Swim trunks mitigate the wet clothes issue.

[Dilwala]

Hey guys,

Any suggestion of jacuzzi rooms in any guest friendly hotel on beach road.

Thanks.

[Wolvenvacht]

In business this is known as price discrimination. Price discrimination is a pricing strategy that charges customers different prices for the same product or service. In pure price discrimination, the seller will charge each customer the maximum price that he or she is willing to pay. This says absolutely nothing towards the quality of the product is my point.

By now I would have thought that it is trite knowledge that price bears no relationship to:

* attractiveness.

* type of services provided.

* quality of services.

The only thing one can be sure of is that the same girl will charge you more for LT than ST, everything else is up in the air and open for negotiations. "Caveat Emptor" as already the Old Romans knew.

The best one can hope for is to know the average prices, set yourself a budget and trust your instincts when negotiating and closing the deal.

[Mr Enternational]

But what is equally as important as price? Its 'time'. For 99 percent of the mongers on this board 'time' is a very important part of the negotiations. I'm not talking about the length of time but the time each monger has on the ground in Pattaya. What's it cost you to be turned down on a lowball offer? Nothing because your living there on a permanent basis. What's the cost to almost everyone else when the girl walks away from a lowball offer?

In this case we are not discussing specific instances of someone living in Pattaya vs someone who does not paying different prices. We are dicussing if a girl who will go for 1000 baht is less attractive than a girl who will not accept that amount. What we are disussing not only holds true for Pattaya, but any freelance market place on the planet. And it is not only for women.

Say me, you, and Tomas went to bumfuck China looking at the same souvenir in a shop one person 20 minutes after the other. I walk in first and see a posted price of $20. I ask the owner for a discount and he tells me no, the price is as marked. I decide to buy or not buy. You walk in next and see a posted price of $20, but the shop owner says he will give it to you for $17. You can buy or not buy. Tomas comes in last and sees the posted price of $20, but he tells the owner he will give him $15 for it. The owner accepts. Is the souvenir beautiful? There is no way to tell. What we do know is that 3 different strangers were able to secure 3 different prices for the same souvenir. Tomas would have you to believe because the owner was willing to sell it to him for $15 ($5 below the marked price) then the souvenir was not as attractive as the other souvenirs in the shop (eg. The girl who accepts 1000 is not attractive).

It is the same as last May my friend bought a pack of Kamagra for 200 baht. One guy the other day posted that he bought Kamagra for 100 baht. I replied to his post and said dude Kamagra is only 30 baht. Another poster came along and said he bought a whole box of 50 Kamagra from 800 baht (16 baht each). Because we are all buying the same Kamagra for 4 different prices does not mean that the person who paid the least didn't actually receive "quality" Kamagra.

In business this is known as price discrimination. Price discrimination is a pricing strategy that charges customers different prices for the same product or service. In pure price discrimination, the seller will charge each customer the maximum price that he or she is willing to pay. This says absolutely nothing towards the quality of the product is my point.

[Breadman]

As I said before, different mongers can get different prices from the same girl, so it says absolute jack shit about the attractiveness of the girl. So when a guy comes on and reports he paid a low amount it makes zero sense to assume the girl was not attractive, the same that it would be stupid to assume a guy who paid a girl 3000 baht must have had a model. This was my original point. Some guys will get beautiful women for cheap while others will pay a handsome amount for an ugly chick. Price has no correlation to the attractiveness of the girl.

But what is equally as important as price? Its 'time'. For 99 percent of the mongers on this board 'time' is a very important part of the negotiations. I'm not talking about the length of time but the time each monger has on the ground in Pattaya. What's it cost you to be turned down on a lowball offer? Nothing because your living there on a permanent basis. What's the cost to almost everyone else when the girl walks away from a lowball offer? Time is money. Every opportunity that walks away from a lowball offer takes some of my precious time. The value of my time depends on the hotness of the girl, the hotter she is the less I'm worried about spending a few bucks more.

Your viewpoint is exactly like the viewpoint of a guy living in Germany visiting the FKK clubs every weekend, he can't understand why you want to fuck 6 girls a day. You know you might never see that girl again when you return next year, he knows he'll see her again next week. You can lowball a girl, she might turn you down the first time but eventually she might accept if business is slow. We 'I' don't have that time.

[Mr Enternational]

Kind of waiting for you to login...

I don't think most BM's need to be lectured about their confidence, or level of attractiveness from someone they have never met and who was not there at the time. I have not had to pay with several very cute girls in Bangkok this winter and last. I get the feeling that you always pay.

Besides appearing a bit angry, what's your point?

People on this board that know me personally know I am not angry at all. I am very relaxed and laid back. And if the girl is a hooker then yes I always pay (although the amount varies) because when I met her I knew it was her job to sleep with men for money. I am not trying to cheat her out of her services. Women who are not hookers, I do not give money to.

My point now is that you are killing your own argument. In one post you assert that girls who accept a "low" payment of 1000 baht are not as attractive as girls who insist on more. Then you turn around and tell me that BMs should not be lectured on attractiveness by someone they have never met and who was not there at the time. Yet it is perfectly okay for you to say that girls who guys are paying 1000 to lack attractiveness when you yourself have never seen the girl and was not there at the time.

To top that off, you say that you got several very cute girls for free in Bangkok. It would stand from your own reasoning that the free girls were not as attractive as the 1000 baht girls because they accepted 0 baht, which is even less than 1000. Or is it that only your low cost girls are attractive and everyone else's are hideous?

As I said before, different mongers can get different prices from the same girl, so it says absolute jack shit about the attractiveness of the girl. So when a guy comes on and reports he paid a low amount it makes zero sense to assume the girl was not attractive, the same that it would be stupid to assume a guy who paid a girl 3000 baht must have had a model. This was my original point. Some guys will get beautiful women for cheap while others will pay a handsome amount for an ugly chick. Price has no correlation to the attractiveness of the girl.

[Leisure Dude]

Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.

I just got back from Pattaya, I'm a black guy from the US, I was concerned about this idea as well before my trip. Once I got there I had no problem finding ladies in Pattaya willing to go with me from massage girls calling out "massage" as you pass their shops, to go-go bar girls and beach road ladies as well.

[LittleBigMan]

This might be useful. I have visited a few and I saw no reason to visit that side of town again. And even if you do find something that floats your boat, good luck in getting her to join you at your hotel, which in all likelihood, will be near beach road. Of course, there are plenty of ST options available in those parts, if that is what you fancy.

This list is really and I mean really old! I live on the Darkside, and as you noted not worth the time and money unless you live out here. I do and I rarely visit any of them and when I say rarely it must have been a few years ago like the list.

[LittleBigMan]

Taxi from the bus station on Pattaya Nua to Soi 13 should be 200 baht. There are also baht buses at the bus station that may be heading that way. I think it was 50 baht last time I hopped on one to my place on 3rd Rd Soi 18 (and I had my large scuba gear bag). Like LBM said, prepare to get wet.

Three out of the last 5 years, particular the last two 2014-15, The Junction of Sukhumvit and Pattaya Nua was a parking lot, Even with my motorbike going up the sidewalk etc. I was stuck! I'm can imagine what a car or bus is going to take and once you get off the bus on this particular time (19th at around 2-3 pm) not going to be easy catching a Baht bus for that price or even a bike unless you cough up a bit more? Good luck.

[FreebieFan]

.. And remember, if you are not embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

They should hand out leaflets at all major monger airports with this super line on it. Should be part of every Mongers Mission Statement. A great line.

[Tomasb]

Kind of waiting for you to login...

I don't think most BM's need to be lectured about their confidence, or level of attractiveness from someone they have never met and who was not there at the time. I have not had to pay with several very cute girls in Bangkok this winter and last. I get the feeling that you always pay.

Besides appearing a bit angry, what's your point?

Or maybe it could be the attractiveness or more so the CONFIDENCE of the punter? (There was just a guy in the Tijuana thread saying how he took a girl to the hotel and she let her taxi friend bring a pizza for $38 then later a bottle of wine for $25, all for him to pay for. See I would have told the bich to kick rocks, but this guy didn't want to seem cheap TO A HOOKER and just rolled over and paid then came back to the board complaining and telling everyone to be careful. No I do not need to be careful. You need to grow a pair and stop letting biches run you.)

How many girls have you known to say they find themselves really attractive? Usually women harp on about the faults they find in themselves. So maybe it is you putting them up on a pedestal and not themselves thinking they look good enough to get x amount of money.

And I have seen plenty of women in gogos that I did not find attractive yet they all garner the same 3000 baht or whatever. And even in the soapies where the girls with the expensive price tags do not look better than the ones with the cheaper price tags.

You have to remember that there are no set prices in a freelance market unless the women are colluding. So 3 of us could go up to the same woman and get 3 different prices. Women have told me that they will jack the price up on a guy who they do not find attractive. And remember, if you are not embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks, Uncle V. Yes, in this particular instance I felt a bit guilty about paying 2500 baht for the girl in Ibar. However, many times, you read reports about how cheap the girls are in certain destinations or venues but then when you get there, it seems that is already old news.

But when fellow posters read about 1000 baht prices, or less, they need to keep in mind the attractiveness of the girl.

Or maybe it could be the attractiveness or more so the CONFIDENCE of the punter? (There was just a guy in the Tijuana thread saying how he took a girl to the hotel and she let her taxi friend bring a pizza for $38 then later a bottle of wine for $25, all for him to pay for. See I would have told the bich to kick rocks, but this guy didn't want to seem cheap TO A HOOKER and just rolled over and paid then came back to the board complaining and telling everyone to be careful. No I do not need to be careful. You need to grow a pair and stop letting biches run you.)

How many girls have you known to say they find themselves really attractive? Usually women harp on about the faults they find in themselves. So maybe it is you putting them up on a pedestal and not themselves thinking they look good enough to get x amount of money.

And I have seen plenty of women in gogos that I did not find attractive yet they all garner the same 3000 baht or whatever. And even in the soapies where the girls with the expensive price tags do not look better than the ones with the cheaper price tags.

You have to remember that there are no set prices in a freelance market unless the women are colluding. So 3 of us could go up to the same woman and get 3 different prices. Women have told me that they will jack the price up on a guy who they do not find attractive. And remember, if you are not embarrassed by your offer, then you are offering too much.

[Mr Enternational]

I will arrive BKK at about 11:30 AM next Tuesday, then will take the Bell bus to Pattaya, probably arriving at around 3:30 PM. Bell has indicated that they will not offer hotel transportation on that day, so I will need to get a taxi I presume, as I will have a large bag. Anyone know what the approximate taxi fare should be to Soi 13?

Taxi from the bus station on Pattaya Nua to Soi 13 should be 200 baht. There are also baht buses at the bus station that may be heading that way. I think it was 50 baht last time I hopped on one to my place on 3rd Rd Soi 18 (and I had my large scuba gear bag). Like LBM said, prepare to get wet.

[Long91]

Warning: Do not visit Pattaya if you black. At most a mamasan hook you up with the biggest, "worker" working at that beer bar, ago go or etc. Warning if you are black stay out of Pattaya.

And example of someone who has never been there or trying to put up a virtual Scare Crow.