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01-31-18 09:33 #24451
Posts: 549A couple of thoughts on the distribution curve (as I call it)
IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.
I don't think you can simply state that one place or any type of girl is this or that (meaning a sure thing for a target objective, whatever that might be for a specific guy) . Some examples from my own observation over many months in Pattaya (but I am far from being any kind of expert so please take it FWIW):
1. There are beach road girls that do come to Insomnia or Ibar (but a lot more to say Lucifer or Red Car). Anyone who thinks that this is not the case is simply misinformed. Girls from massage places, beer bars, go gos, and regular girls (example , working at a hotel or even 7 Eleven) go to the discos (" to enjoy" their terminology) and are open to " going with man" , as they often refer to it.
Now, I don't know what the distribution looks like, but I would guess less than 10 pc (but that's still a lot of girls) are from beach Road. Girls have specifically said they have in the past been at beach Road when they need some money ASAP.
2. Not all girls at even the best go gos are what one would call go go material. As a matter of fact, based on my recent experience (which is very limited to say about 8 diff go gos in WS and LK Metro ), I would say a full 50 pc are VERY average, meaning a 6/6. 5 or below. Some are pretty poor lookers IMO. And yeah, this even applies to Imagine (what's up upper level). Maybe 20pc of a typical top quality go go , IMO, is worth bar fining.
So, yes there is a distribution of 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, a few 9's in all go gos.
Most places have a fixed bar fine, some have multiple levels, but still, even in each level not all girls are equivalent.
So, I would suggest not paying a steep bar fine for a 6 in a go go. And certainly don't pay 4 k.
There are 6. 5 's and the occasional 7 even avail at Insomnia for 2 K LT, and, if you are very lucky even a 7 at a beer bar. I was lucky enough in the last 8 days to bar fine four 7's from a beer bar for anywhere from 350-700 and 2 K LT. After a lot of time and work searching. I would suggest smaller beer bars in Jomtien and even Simon complex and others nearby on 2nd RD.
3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but age is not. IMO! The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine. Again, age distribution is all over the place at beer bars (so many 40 plus yo) and many go gos with 30 plus (do they need a boob job due to age and gravity). But one thing about the G clubs, like Kinnaree, they seem to have a better personality than the average girl at a top go go.
4. Young 8. 5 's and 9's are very few and are mostly at the go gos and a sprinkling at Insomnia, IMO. However, IMO, there is no denying that in those venues they do prefer Korea's and Japanese by a long shot. Money will not make a diffrence and chances are not under 8 K. At Insomnia many will simply do the hand together gesture and just turn away or say they are busy or thank you. So, yes, again there is a clear distribution in this sense that has become more pronounced in the last couple of years.
5. Yes, there is more demand than the supply of girls, at all venues. But as I (and Mr ENT) would note, you only need one (unless you are Sexmachine's wingman (who I now refer to as "2 IstheMinimum". So, the distribution is what it is. If when you are there, that one - that will fit your bill - is not there or unavailable to you, keep moving and keep looking. Somewhere along the line, the distribution curve, particularly at the right time of day, will make you lucky. But if you are here for 4-5 days then Soi 6, G clubs or go gos are your best options for point and click...but they are by and large, ST in premises options only (something I simply do not do ).
So, always be mindful of the distribution curve. Also, WS is now closing at 3-330 am, so one has to start early say by 1030 ( or in the case of some go gos by 830-9 as the older Korean and Japanese like to retire early with their barfine of the day.
But, these days, it's a lot of work. And, that is what is so frustrating and I think Pattaya is fast reaching a point where the work (vs the money) is just becoming a very steep climb, IF you like me want under 23, GFE and solid 6-7. 5 with a rare 8. I for one find that the ones above 8 are just too full of themselves and simply not worth my time for a busted experience.
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01-31-18 09:29 #24450
Posts: 2204Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I wonder if the average Thai girl knows what you mean with it.
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01-31-18 05:56 #24449
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by Axiata [View Original Post]
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01-31-18 04:36 #24448
Posts: 124Ratios
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
You are right. Looks are very subjective regardless of the light. My eye sight is not great at night but I did not really notice the blue lights in Whats Up. The girls looked good even with dodgy eyes.
What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour.
Happy Hunting.
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01-30-18 15:44 #24447
Posts: 595Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
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01-30-18 08:36 #24446
Posts: 6306Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
I'll still wrongfully call them all G clubs.
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01-30-18 03:37 #24445
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by Axiata [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Axiata [View Original Post]
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01-30-18 03:26 #24444
Posts: 124Short time
Just finished a short time trip to Pattaya. Crammed a lot in 4 nights but my observations were that since my last visit in November that January was way too busy. Soi 6 was quiet during the days but the hunting was ok. Best bar was Pussy Club although the talent was still thin. Lisa Bar was a disappointment this trip. Did try Smokes and Kisses and found only one to my liking. The girls from Pussy Club were at least fun and could perform. Managed to alsp take one out for 2 hours back to my hotel were she really performed like a GF. Really the talent in Soi 6 was low. My wingman did take one from the Pussy Club that was a real PSE.
The gogos were largely hit and miss. Tried Ginza, Peppermint, Sensations, Sapphire and What's Up. By far the best was What's Up. Sapphire was a sausage fest and the ratio was all wrong. The other clubs had better ratio but the girls were average. What's Up and it had the best lookers and I did bar fine one who had a super body and pretty face. Performance did not match the looks. That said, still enjoyed being with her and performing a very long and wet DATY.
Visited Heaven G club and wow such a change from November. Only one girl there and the place was dead. Apparently all the girls have left and that spells doom I think.
Tried a few bars in LK Metro but did not see talent worth bar fine. Also went to iBar and Insomnia but way too busy and ratio wrong.
So all in all, the trip was fun but will stay away from Pattaya in January next time. Just too busy and way too many guys. Also noticed low number of good talent girls worth bar fine.
Happy Hunting.
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01-30-18 02:01 #24443
Posts: 3116Also, a club not sure if is is still open if is just off Soi Buakhao heading south just off Soi 15, the Soi that leads to the back portion of the Avenue, as soon as you approach Soi 15 to make a right there is a restaurant on the corner, just before that is a small entrance it is a small courtyard? The place is called 555.
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01-29-18 17:57 #24442
Posts: 6306Originally Posted by ChristianG [View Original Post]
I walked to Punch and Judy fairly quickly from Camel Toe so I assumed it was Jomtien as I believe Punch and Judy is considered to be in Jomtien.
I assumed Winchester and Rioja are still closed.
I also forgot Velvet Club on my list which is near Soi Full Love Inn.
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01-29-18 13:57 #24441
Posts: 1579Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
Winchester and Rioja are still close?
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01-29-18 11:19 #24440
Posts: 15925Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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01-29-18 10:31 #24439
Posts: 6306Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Rob, if you want good looking girls Telephone and La Poste aren't the places to seek this out. The G clubs have a lot of uglies but definitely can find some gems too. If your trip is short, just stick to Soi 6 like everyone else on here. If more than a week, try at last Kinnaree. Many G clubs walking distance from Soi Buakhao and Soi Lengkee. The Den, Xzyte, Bar de la Poste, L0l1tas, Bliss, Pin Up, Geisha, M Club, Pirates, Club Sin, J club, Club 4, 007, Carre Blanc, etc. Another group in Jomtien. Kit Cat, Jade House. Camel Toe, Passion. In Pratumnak Hill, Kinnaree and Heaven. A bunch more on the Dark Side. Apologies if I missed a club. I have some gems in these places but let's make no mistake about this, they are not top tier gogo girls and you're lucky to find 1 or 2 decent girls in each place. Kinnaree and Kit Cat may be the 2 exceptions. Having said that, they are fun places to spend an afternoon when most places other than Soi 6 are still closed.
To get to Telephone bar, South Pattaya Road baht bus towards Sukhumvit. It's about a 3 minute walk from South Pattaya Road.
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01-29-18 09:49 #24438
Posts: 1579Originally Posted by RobJones [View Original Post]
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01-29-18 08:12 #24437
Posts: 130Originally Posted by RobJones [View Original Post]