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  1. #41590
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]

    But I do not recall anywhere when the girl would not take the whole amount: EVER, never even heard the crazy story like this. So somehow I got a break.

    __Y.
    Had it a couple of times. Once with a chick who I barfined and we had so much fun and got so drunk (the 2nd time) we just slept and just paid taxi next day.

    Another time was last time with a girl from agogo who refused payment. "I not need your money" hahahaha.

  2. #41589
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]
    But I do not recall anywhere when the girl would not take the whole amount: EVER, never even heard the crazy story like this. So somehow I got a break.
    It has happened to me a couple of times. One time in Pattaya, and some other times in the Netherlands, where I live.
    This one time in Pattaya was around 15 years ago, I think, when I barfined a girl from an agogo in Soi Buakhao. When we left the agogo to go to my hotel, I already realized that she was more drunk than I thought she was (she could barely walk in a straight line), but nevertheless we had a nice session in my room. For about 30 minutes or so. Then she suddenly rushed off to the bathroom, because she had to throw up. When she came back she excused herself, and said she wanted to go home. And she also said that I didn't have to pay her, because I didn't finish yet.
    I have paid her something nevertheless, but less than what we agreed upon (I cannot recall how much it was), because she was a really nice girl, and I had a good time despite everything.
    But since then I avoid drunk, or even tipsy girls like the plague, LOL.

  3. #41588

    I saw the picture of them together in a yard (of course could be not what it seemed)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vendelo  [View Original Post]
    Thai girls use "sister" to refer to their girlfriends.
    No, the girl in question seemed to be her younger sister. When we were discussing to have a vacation together and talked about families (she showed me the picture of her, sister, brother, and one parent together in the yard). Then her sister actually called being concerned that my girl did not go home that night and her sister's picture was shown on her phone.

    But I can be easily manipulated. Her sister has no resemblance at all with my girl. On the picture then were 5 years younger, and so resemblance was not 100%. When I asked how come her sister did not look like her, my girl answered that most customers are "Asians" (her term) and Asians like big breasts, so her younger sister started doing plastic surgeries, and did not stop on breasts after became much more popular than my girl (apparently they compete!), and changed nose, etc.

    To me: all believable, but looking objectively, not much evidence.

    __Y.
    Last edited by Yuri B; 02-04-24 at 02:41. Reason: misspells errors

  4. #41587

    Go-Go: Tandra

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFlevo  [View Original Post]
    Next to Palace? That must be Atlantis (on the right) or Tantra (right of Atlantis). Or did you mean LUCIFER (what's a club not agogo) ??
    Thank you for listing them. It was indeed Tandra (only 2 k THB BF), but the girl asked for 5 K LT until 9: AM -- and with my massive negotiation skills I agreed when she was asked to dance and I did not want to loose her. But miraculous thing happen in the morning. After Amazing night, my little me did not wake up in the morning (usually I have had the opposite problem: everything is fine in the morning, but at night I am tired and I am avoiding to take my blue friend which is nowadays white). So we were cuddling and I offered to take her on vacation next week. We were lying and dreaming about vacation, negotiated the price, and somehow both got very happy. Time for her to leave, I produce 5 K = 4 1 K and 2 500 THB notes. She takes half and places on the shelf in my room and tells me that I did not do my obligation to her in the morning so she can not take the full amount. I protested (here my powerful negotiation skills turned on) and she said, not to worry, I would have to really take care of her on our vacation. So it was not 5 K but 2. 5 K (yes in THBs).

    But I do not recall anywhere when the girl would not take the whole amount: EVER, never even heard the crazy story like this. So somehow I got a break.

    __Y.

  5. #41586
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]
    C) there were 7 ladies; all but one well above 30, and the one, who they said was 24, was definitely not my type. I purchased LD for a doable woman (who said she was 36, then corrected herself to be 26, but judging by the skin on her neck and her thighs I would place her in the beginning of 40's. So when she took her bra off (immediately upon getting her drink), I wanted to ask her to put it back on ASAP. When I asked if there are more "girls" working here at other days, she answered "possibly-- depends on the day" I could not figure out an polite way to ask, when would be present at least one decent because the beauty in the eyes of a beholder and then I would have implied that she was not decent.
    These places are mostly filled with unattractive to very unattractive women. You might have been dupped by people writing reports about gentlemen clubs and making it sound like they shagged a good looking girl.

    There is a reason owners of these places absolutely forbid these girls to stand outside of the place. Here is why: these guys know they would get zero customers if every one could see the talent without entering the place. At least, by keeping these women behind closed doors, they can get a drink here and there from adventurous or curious customers.

    Thanks for the report, it sounds that you have settled very quickly with one of the first girls you've met.

  6. #41585
    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    Apparently you haven't stayed at the two hotels I mentioned. As for the whole room number thing. There are two ways around this.

    1. Go hang out at the entrance behind other guests and pay attention to their room number when they announce it. Call them on your room hotel to their room hotel and tell them you are housekeeping. And ask what time will they check out tomorrow. When they say "we don't, we have XXX days," that's your cue to show up at 6 am next morning and use their room number and eat.

    2. Find a resort hotel with patio tables for breakfast. Grab you one of the dirty plates off a table that has been left for clean up. Enter with dirty plates in hand and exchange them on your way to the buffet. Nobody will ask anything. If they do, start talking in some foreign language not named English.

    Shit. I've gotten so good at this that I even order poolside drinks and food and bill it to another room. I also use different hotel, resorts, and condo pools and gyms when I am in Pattaya. No need to pay for that type of stuff. Grand Avenue has an excellent gym if you know how to sneak in. Just make sure you tip the staff so they don't suspect anything. This trip my 25 m2 botique serviced apartment is $300 USD a month including utilities. It's located 12 minutes walk to Buakhao behind Festival. If I showed you pictures, then people will find out the location and my secret isn't a secret anymore. Messes up my pricing. I've already shared two hotels for those who are brave who want free food. I'm too much nice.

    P.S. : If you want free shots at the GoGo bars, just ask the girls while they hover around their free 2 SangSom bottles allocated to them. I used to tell them I've never tasted it before and batted my eyes at them. And they will give me a couple of shots. Lying goes a long way when you have confidence.
    So basically, you were here bragging that you screw up somebody else's life by stealing a breakfast because you're too cheap to buy one. Congratulations dude you've become the ultimate cheap charlie. Or is it Thief Charlie.

  7. #41584
    When a person say a girl or girls are not my type please give a description of what is your Type.

    Who doesn't like old, fat, toothless Gentleman s Club Bargirls. LOL. Hahaha.

  8. #41583
    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    Can you believe that 50% of the food at hotel buffets gets tossed into the trash? Some want to play morality police but need to point the finger somewhere else besides a hungry person. I once took a college class in Ethics and Jurisprudence. Professor asked what is the difference between a poor broke homeless man going into a supermarket and eating a banana that he didn't pay for versus a soccer mom who taste tests cherries or grapes for sweetness, but then decided not to buy? Maybe it's better to rally around more honorable stories about poisoning random girls with 30 drinks so I can get them intoxicated to get some BBFS and CIP while being ripped off with hugely inflated drink prices.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/christi...h=3d4948a317dc
    I vaguely Recall it was 40 drinks. Hahaha.

    This Pattaya thread is becoming a lot like Bangkok Thread. No Fun.

    Come on guys. I saw a Mr Sins Livestream,. God Soi6 looked like Death.

  9. #41582
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]
    I BFed a girl from one of the Thai clubs (next to Palace) .
    Next to Palace? That must be Atlantis (on the right) or Tantra (right of Atlantis). Or did you mean LUCIFER (what's a club not agogo) ??

  10. #41581
    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]
    Final note to the people with under-developed negotiating skills like mine. Use technology. My new girlfriend who I am taking off travelling (that Thai girl from one of Go-Gos) for a week, once heard that I pay 120 THB per taxi bike ride, grabbed my phone and installed BOLT on it. She also told me that in her club and in her sister's club (apparently she has a sister and her sister also works in Go-Go) they get tested every 15 days for STDs...
    Thai girls use "sister" to refer to their girlfriends.

  11. #41580
    This High Season may not be the biggest in terms of overall numbers of customers, but it sure is in terms of customers wanting to be boyfriends. My Facebook feed is filled with bargirls showing gold bought by customers for them, Western Union transfers, going back to the village to live off sponsorship, and just photos of them throwing money around, or spending it on their Thai boyfriend.

    Remember: Pattaya is like Disneyland. Don't blow your hard earned cash on Minnie Mouse.

  12. #41579

    My last report (unless it is not the last)

    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]
    ...
    Today expensive staff: Go-Gos and Clubs.

    __Y.
    11. A) at Banana Boi mentioned something interesting for me down below: "I have been to its sister club, Telephone Booth, more often than Bar La Poste. Twice I found a half decent girl so decided to have some fun in the bar only. Buy any of these girls a LD and they immediately strip down and you can do anything you pretty much want to them except BJ / FS will cost you more" so I decided to start with that intriguing place. Turned out Disastrous. A) could not figure out how to get there: it turns out to be Telephone Bar (no boot). B) upon arrival could not figure out how to enter -- you open the telephone booth and ring inconspicuous bell as the booth is actually serves as the front door. C) there were 7 ladies; all but one well above 30, and the one, who they said was 24, was definitely not my type. I purchased LD for a doable woman (who said she was 36, then corrected herself to be 26, but judging by the skin on her neck and her thighs I would place her in the beginning of 40's. So when she took her bra off (immediately upon getting her drink), I wanted to ask her to put it back on ASAP. When I asked if there are more "girls" working here at other days, she answered "possibly-- depends on the day" I could not figure out an polite way to ask, when would be present at least one decent because the beauty in the eyes of a beholder and then I would have implied that she was not decent. So I asked about other "potential girls: their age, leanness, luck of tattoos, but all my questions seemed to only confuse her. Her answers were, if I want to touch her, or interested in BJ, or she may even. D) I was wondering around for 15 minutes before I found the first taxi stand in order to pay my 120 THB for the ride to Walking St to investigate Go-Gos. The price mention (as at Mr. Enternational pointed out) came to me as I asked the very first bike I took 2 days prior, and the answer was "oh, it is very cheap: for 120 THB I will deliver you anywhere in Pattaya, so I decided that like in the Baht Buses the price is standard. Every time I Paid it, I saw very satisfied eyes of the drivers, and was positive, that this is the right and only price. Turned out I paid dearly not only by overpaying everywhere, but also not being able to order a taxi when got strangled in nowhere land.

    11. B) Go-Gos, visited 4 starting with the House (where there were probably most attractive girls overall). Asked "super-model" how to negotiate and got a meaningful and educational answer. It is all in the bits-and-peices on this board, but I put them together. 1) You pay Bar Fine and it is usually non-negotiable. The only way to bypass it if a girl would be willing to go out with you after her shift is over and would NOT meet next to the exit / entrance of the club. But sometimes mama-san can offer a discount if she likes you, you paid for a lot of drinks, you are a frequent customer, it is very late in the evening -- usually within one hour of closing. I was told it is very rare. 2) duration: ST vs. LT. ST is usually 1 hour, but usually your girl has a leverage to prolong it to two hours if she likes a customer for what ever reason. LT is apparently tricky. It could be 4 hours, 5 hours, until morning 6 AM and until morning 9 AM -- all negotiable with the girl. 3) number of shots -- I was surprised that they count even for LT. "Normally" it is assumed 2, but a customer may negotiate to 3, or as many as he likes as long as the girl agrees. 4) special services; for example massaging bottom of the customer feet with the girl's breasts, etc. <-- all of these have to be negotiated well in advance with the help of Google Translator. Finally 5) Protection aka Condom use. She explained to me that if someone does not want to use condom, he would not be able to negotiate inside of the club -- he will be refused, almost 80%. However, if the customer is nice and serious about this and ready to tell the girl to leave the hotel room without pay, her only recourse is that the customer would not get his BF back, because unprotective service is against her club policy. When I asked mama-san about this very thing, she said to negotiate with the girl (not an outright "NO" so I am not 100% certain myself.

    BF: 2 K-2. 5 K (different clubs had different numbers. Palace even had 2. 5 K Su-Th, but 3 K F-Sat I was also told that one can get a discount once the evening progresses.

    ST: 3 K.

    LT: 4-5 K -- different girls quoted different prices.

    Again that was the night beginning: 8 PM, and I wanted by morning, so maybe later one can make a bargain with the leftovers.

    There is a lot of thing go with GoGos and Clubs: you see what you can get. The most of the girls are young and doable (tattoos are big NO for me, but if you are not bothered by tatoos, you can get what you want at any of these bars.

    Negative: high prices, and very boring inside (at least at the clubs I have been).

    11. C) Russian Go-Gos / Clubs -- this is a special category. I BFed a girl from one of the Thai clubs (next to Palace) and despite the highest price in this trip still think she was worth it. When she told me that she really knows how to excite men with her dancing technique, I took her to Russian Club. She was mesmerized with what was going on there and thanked me many times for the entertainment, and. Not even once reminded me about her dancing skills. In Russian club (I forgot its name, sorry. But I can let people know if there is an interest) We ordered Cappuccinos for 200 THB each and enjoyed the show and heavily tipped the Russian dancers (20-100 THB per dance per girl -- depending on the skills). The women were gorgeous. I asked 2 if they would be willing to go out with customers. The first said only to seat and have expensive drinks, but no father. The second said 30 K THB per hour. No, no extra '0'. And then she asked if I would be willing to buy her a drink for "only" 15 K THB and then she would seat with me and my Thai girl for an hour. I guess there are many rich people, I could not even think about such prices, but then it all was exactly as 10 years ago, so I was not terribly surprised.

    Final note to the people with under-developed negotiating skills like mine. Use technology. My new girlfriend who I am taking off travelling (that Thai girl from one of Go-Gos) for a week, once heard that I pay 120 THB per taxi bike ride, grabbed my phone and installed BOLT on it. She also told me that in her club and in her sister's club (apparently she has a sister and her sister also works in Go-Go) they get tested every 15 days for STDs. <-- I am not sure if that is of any use, because the virus or bacteria can get you-know-where a day after the test or even the day before the test and the test still would be negative. So use TF to negotiate with girls, Agoda to negotiate hotels, Bolt to get a taxi. And ready to accept the risk that every time I talk to a person, I am a slacker most take advantage off.

    __Y going out of Pattaya in a couple of days.

  13. #41578

    Adjustment to Price from My Hotel to Pattaya Avenue Mall

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Yeah definitely that. At least you know though. They are getting you from all different angles it seems. A motorbike taxi from Pattaya Klang to The Avenue is NOT 120 baht!
    You are so right! I checked with BOLT and it is 46 THB at this time -- it will be in my next / last report coming in 30 minutes.

    __Y.

  14. #41577

    50%

    Can you believe that 50% of the food at hotel buffets gets tossed into the trash? Some want to play morality police but need to point the finger somewhere else besides a hungry person. I once took a college class in Ethics and Jurisprudence. Professor asked what is the difference between a poor broke homeless man going into a supermarket and eating a banana that he didn't pay for versus a soccer mom who taste tests cherries or grapes for sweetness, but then decided not to buy? Maybe it's better to rally around more honorable stories about poisoning random girls with 30 drinks so I can get them intoxicated to get some BBFS and CIP while being ripped off with hugely inflated drink prices.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/christi...h=3d4948a317dc

  15. #41576

    THB not TB

    Quote Originally Posted by YuriB  [View Original Post]
    I am not speculating what should be, but just explaining what did happen to me. --and I probably am a sucker, as you elegantly put it. Finally: THANK YOU for correcting -- the amounts are in TB not USD..
    Thai currency is THB.

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