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  1. #35123

    How much should I negotiate

    Bro,

    Can someone share the current damage for different options.

    BF - 300?

    ST - 1000 (Only 1 or more).

    LT - 1500 (2 shots or more).

    I know depends on negotiation and how do you manage. But, can someone share this in case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Smyke  [View Original Post]
    Returning to Pattaya after a 4 yr absence and staying in the middle of Soi Bukhao.

    4 years ago the treetown area was an empty field with one VW microbus parked serving cocktails.

    The transformation is nothing short of a miracle!

    1000's of ladies to choose from!

    The big downer for me is bars insisting on music at ear bursting levels. Impossible to talk to provider or negotiate easily!

    I measured the volume in several bars at 105 dB with the live bands even louder.

    Memo to bar owners. More noise does not make your bar more attractive.

    Had three providers over 4 days, average BF 300-400,1500 LT, 1000ST and 1000 LT.

  2. #35122
    If you think a bargirl is in love with you, make sure you get her Facebook and Messenger contact info. Don't use LINE with a bargirl.

    Sometimes bargirls forget to scrub their Facebook account, which may have posts showing their Thai husband.

    Same with Messenger. A lot of bargirls are active on Messenger at 3 AM, which either means they are at a boy bar (they open after the bars close), or they are chatting up men in the US.

    I always look at the post history of any new Facebook friend.

  3. #35121
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFlevo  [View Original Post]
    Feels to me you are just not into her that much. THAT's a reason to just. Break up? Don't ghost / block her. Just break up.

    I got the assumption all those chats / calls are when you are back home and NOT in Thailand.
    That is correct. And it's the "human" part that has me asking (in a similar vein to the are AITAH reddit). I'm just somewhat confused by her behavior and curious if anyone else has seen anything like it. I like being friends with her and want to see her again as Mr Enternational suggested, but not at the cost of leading her on. She told me she loved me the second morning and tells me she won't even look at other guys. This seems like the lie we've all heard, no?

    Basically I met her at the bar and left with her as it closed. From then on she managed to stick with me the rest of the trip and money was never discussed. It was intoxicating at first, but she slips up way too much in her stories so it's really turning me off. I mean I could spend another week with her and enjoy it, but if she is serious, I need to break up.

  4. #35120
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I am taking 3 ladies from Pattaya to Singapore. Not all at the same time. I am in Singapore with one lady now. This afternoon, I will take her to the airport, see her off, and then 2 ladies will arrive from Pattaya. I know the 2 ladies, they won't play together, but they are okay if I fuck one at a time.

    As for switching out ladies at the airport, it's a delicate maneuver.
    Wow, it actually worked!

    Today, I fly back to Bangkok, and will spend the night with a Pattaya bargirl who is in Bangkok for personal business.

    The two ladies with me now will go back to Pattaya when we reach Suvarnaphumi airport.

    No problem fucking one lady with the other in the same room.

  5. #35119
    Quote Originally Posted by BoredInAmerica  [View Original Post]
    Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

    I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.

    Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?.
    Not a long con, this is a medium con.

    Bar girls are constantly working their telephone with multiple potential sponsors. At some point, she will reveal a sick child, parent, uncle, or Buffalo, which is her hint for you to send money. If you don't, at some point, she will stop playing telephone with you.

  6. #35118
    Quote Originally Posted by BoredInAmerica  [View Original Post]
    She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.
    Talk and be friends with her if you have nothing else to do at the time. But it seems you already know the rules: No Dough!

  7. #35117
    Quote Originally Posted by BoredInAmerica  [View Original Post]
    Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

    I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. ..

    Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?

    She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.
    Well believe it or not. But those working girls are also human. So yeah she COULD be falling for you and be bored and be playing the long game. All at once. Keep in mind its low season so she might have time between her freelance ST / LT things.

    Feels to me you are just not into her that much. THAT's a reason to just. Break up? Don't ghost / block her. Just break up.

    I got the assumption all those chats / calls are when you are back home and NOT in Thailand.

  8. #35116
    Polly Pons short for Polly Pontifications.

    Monkeypaw people, doesn't that turn you Gay / Bisexuality guys off-just a little bit?

  9. #35115
    Hello gentlemen! I once again seek your collective knowledge and experiences.

    I did end up coming to Pattaya and made what I guess could be described as a rookie mistake. I barfined, of sorts, the same girl twice. (I never actually gave the bar any money.) From there I guess I was "claimed" as hers. Recalling RakSopheni's post on the mongerer driven by sex vs those seeking a relationship, I can say that the trip was ruined at that point from a certain sense and perfectly acceptable in the other. At the end of the day, I think it's what I needed at the time. So that's not so much the point of the post.

    Fast forwarding to the present, we're still talking and it's how we're talking that I wanted to ask about. She wants to talk all the time! (Did you just think "Yeah, whenever she is bored. ") But I mean video chats while I'm doing sometimes the most mundane of things: exercising, cooking, at work, just whenever. At bedtime (hers or mine), she wants to fall asleep on the line. Like we're sleeping together. It's like hours a day for months. It's a bit awkward sometimes given our other-side-of-the-planet timezones. Is this normal?

    She tells me she loves me ("Oh boy. ") and my friend (non-mongerer) and I think she's probably working the "long con" (his word, meaning marriage). I'm not delusional or anything. I have no doubt she's with other guys. But as Explorer8939 mentioned, girls can fall for their customers (is this my hubris? I mean, for reference, she didn't ask for money when we were together. Although I did give her some. And only asked once a few weeks ago for a modest amount, but I declined.

  10. #35114
    Quote Originally Posted by KalleKula  [View Original Post]
    Wow. Wish I was younger.

    Anyone had a MMF session in Thailand?
    Just hook up with a ladyboy; same thing when you think about it. LOL.

  11. #35113
    I am taking 3 ladies from Pattaya to Singapore. Not all at the same time. I am in Singapore with one lady now. This afternoon, I will take her to the airport, see her off, and then 2 ladies will arrive from Pattaya. I know the 2 ladies, they won't play together, but they are okay if I fuck one at a time.

    As for switching out ladies at the airport, it's a delicate maneuver.

  12. #35112
    Quote Originally Posted by Supmam  [View Original Post]
    She's looking for three blokes in their thirties for a gang bang right now.
    Wow. Wish I was younger.

    Anyone had a MMF session in Thailand?

  13. #35111
    Quote Originally Posted by Supmam  [View Original Post]
    She's looking for three blokes in their thirties for a gang bang right now.
    Looking at the gaping ass photo on her Twitter; she found more than three!

  14. #35110
    Quote Originally Posted by KalleKula  [View Original Post]
    She really is. I had arranged for an outcall with her in Paris, but then the pandemic happened.
    She's looking for three blokes in their thirties for a gang bang right now.

  15. #35109
    Quote Originally Posted by Supmam  [View Original Post]
    Lucky guy. She's great.
    She really is. I had arranged for an outcall with her in Paris, but then the pandemic happened.

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