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  1. #28854

    Hi

    Hi Vasu,

    I'm also visiting Pattaya Nov 24. Kindly ping me as your inbox is full. Clear it.

    Quote Originally Posted by VsebudetNY  [View Original Post]
    Hello all,

    Long time dream come true and I'm finally going to Thailand!

    20+ years mongering in US, DR, Mexico, Jamaica, Russia, Ukraine, Germany, Greece, Netherlands and recently Colombia, but couldn't allocate at least 10 days to go to Thailand. Finally I was able to allocate 2 weeks of vacation time, convince my friend and pull the trigger. As of now only airline tickets were bought arriving BKK Nov 24 and departing BKK Dec 7.

    I was reading a forum a lot and know for sure that I need to visit Pattaya and Bangkok but have no idea how to split the time and which one should be first? My friend and I are white divorced men in our 50's in good shape and we want this trip to be not only mongering but touristy also. Probably 60/40 or 70/30 with tourism on the lower side LOL, so please advise what MUST to be seen and if I need to consider other places for couple days IE any island, Cambodia, etc.

    Also need advice on accommodations do we need to book 2 hotel rooms or look for AirBnB with 2 bedrooms.

    All advices and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

  2. #28853
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Buying a drink does not get you shit that not buying a drink will not get you. Maybe in your mind it does, but in reality it really does not. It is a brothel for Buddha's sake.
    It can help you get more time to build or regain your power for example. Maybe you want to take some vitamin to be sure that your session will be good, it takes some time before that stuff kicks in your body.

    Most of the times the girls on soi 6 are the ones asking to go straight in the room and they never ask for a LD.

    But I'm not a robot, I need to spend some time with her downstairs before taking her upstairs but the girls are very insistent to go upstairs right away.

    Buying her a drink gives me the assurance that she doesn't lose interest in me and that another customer doesn't call her over while she is with me.

    Sure, if she is an asshole she can still go see another guy while I paid her a drink but it never happened to me.

    Many times I spotted guys going to talk with the girl I was with when I went in the toilet, the last time I had a girl in soi 6, I just came back from the toilet and a guy was over her and I could hear her telling him by pointing at me " no I will go boom boom him now".

    The same happened a few days ago in PP while I just finished a snooker game with a girl I met a few minutes ago and an asshole French guy went to her and tried to take her away from me.

    So that 120 baht LD is not always a bad move in my opinion.

  3. #28852
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Sure that is fine but if the two of you aren't all over one another imo that could be a sign your Soi 6 session isn't going to be a good one.
    There are not many lookers over there so if I start to rule out girls just because they are not all over me downstairs I'm not going to fuck anything.

    I've got hard times finding a girl that I would want to fuck in a place like soi 6, the biggest problem for me lately in the bars was that girls look mostly not interested by their job.

  4. #28851
    Quote Originally Posted by Bunky  [View Original Post]
    If you've never been to Pattaya, it's important to figure out the basic layout *before* you arrive. If you know where things are, you'll be able to book lodging in a place that's centrally located. You'll also be able to get where you need to go on foot, by baht bus or by motorbike taxi. Most importantly you'll be able to get down to business immediately upon arrival without wasting a bunch of time. Online maps are fine, but I also recommend buying an old-fashioned map that you can look at while you are planning your trip. I like the Groovy map of Pattaya, which I find has just right level of detail. You can buy it from Amazon for about 270 baht plus shipping.

    https://www.amazon.com/GROOVY-PATTAY.../dp/9745250333
    Agreed. I did study a bit he weeks before arriving, but got very at work busy the last 4-5 days and lost perspective. All good commentary on your part.

    Hit Sabai Dee (the original, I believe) in the afternoon for a soapy and The Castle in the evening. Better day, overall.

  5. #28850
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeDude  [View Original Post]
    Most of my 15 or so girls were from soi 6 and I paid 1000 for sex and 500-600 for the room and a round of drinks for me and the girl. The first bunch of girls were not particularly good, but after a while I got better at vetting them. It surprised me how few other men used the LD time to get some hands on action,
    PDA is not everyone's bag. However, I was doing the same hands on rubbing on pussies and grabbing bare ass cheeks action last night on the 6 and bought 0 LDs. On Halloween night I did buy a LD for a chick although I had no intentions of doing anything but chillin out. I told her that she had to get Sangsom on ice the same that I had. I tasted her shit and I don't know what it was. She said she had put a little cola in it. I said negative and made her drink mine and I drank hers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    What if the guy has already decided that he is going to take her upstairs and bought her that LD just to put her at ease before he fucks her in the ST room.
    There is no need to buy anyone any drinks to put them at ease. Hell, I could be sitting with one chick and have bought her a drink and see another chick walk past and point to upstairs and leave the chick I was talking to go fuck the other chick. Buying a drink does not get you shit that not buying a drink will not get you. Maybe in your mind it does, but in reality it really does not. It is a brothel for Buddha's sake.

  6. #28849
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    What if the guy has already decided that he is going to take her upstairs and bought her that LD just to put her at ease before he fucks her in the ST room.
    Sure that is fine but if the two of you aren't all over one another imo that could be a sign your Soi 6 session isn't going to be a good one. However, you're experienced enough to see that most guys who buy lady drinks on Soi 6 DO NOT take the girls upstairs.

  7. #28848
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    This is my pet peeve. Too many guys buying lady drinks and doing absolutely nothing other than staring in to a girl's eyes or touching her shoulders and waist. DFK, mutual groping, and lap dancing should be standard if you buy a girl a lady drink.

    Will never forget the good old days of 2016 when Soi 6 girls used to greet you with their hands down your pants.
    What if the guy has already decided that he is going to take her upstairs and bought her that LD just to put her at ease before he fucks her in the ST room.

  8. #28847
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeDude  [View Original Post]
    It surprised me how few other men used the LD time to get some hands on action, because the willingness to DFK in the bar seemed like a good predictor for performance.
    This is my pet peeve. Too many guys buying lady drinks and doing absolutely nothing other than staring in to a girl's eyes or touching her shoulders and waist. DFK, mutual groping, and lap dancing should be standard if you buy a girl a lady drink.

    Will never forget the good old days of 2016 when Soi 6 girls used to greet you with their hands down your pants.

  9. #28846
    Quote Originally Posted by Franga  [View Original Post]
    Current exchange rate: 1 usd = 30.1 baht. FL = freelancer. ST= Short Time.

    28 yrs at Paradise Massage Soi Honey, 1000 baht. 200 baht room extra.

    22 yrs at Soi 6. 1000 baht. 400 baht room extra. Chick rating =8. Very hot ass.

    34 yrs Beach Rd FL. 700 baht. Chick rating=7. Did her up the date for 100 baht extra. ST Room=120 baht extra.

    33 yrs Beach Rd FL. 1000 baht. Chick rating=8. Skinny with great ass. ST Room=120 baht extra.

    41 yrs, Soi Chaiyapoon. 1000 baht inclusive of room. Chick rating= 8.

    64 yrs massage chick. 700 baht including A+. Massage 300 baht extra. Chick rating=5.

    28 yrs on Soi 6. 1000 baht. Chick rating =8. Room extra 400 baht.

    40 yrs Beach Rd FL. 600 baht. Chick rating = 6. Small and skinny. 200 baht ST room extra.

    50 yrs Soi Excyte massage chick. 1000 baht inclusive of room. Chick rating =7.

    49 yrs Soi Chaiyapoon massage chick. 1000 baht inclusive of room. Rating=7.

    Total including room = 10,840 baht. Or 1084 baht per punt. Equals 36 USD per punt. Yes, I monger at the low end, but all good bangs even if most were not "optic f*ucks".
    This is very similar to my week in Pattaya at the end of October. Except that I did one 27 year old, while the rest was between 20 and 24.

    Most of my 15 or so girls were from soi 6 and I paid 1000 for sex and 500-600 for the room and a round of drinks for me and the girl. The first bunch of girls were not particularly good, but after a while I got better at vetting them. It surprised me how few other men used the LD time to get some hands on action, because the willingness to DFK in the bar seemed like a good predictor for performance.

    My favorite girl was a 21 year old from a massage place. 300 for the message (only happened once really, for about 5 minutes) and 1000 for sex. Did her 6 times or something like that.

    Most expensive was a bar girl from tree town for 1500 (and 500 BF). Some birthday going on, so I got about half the drinks that night for free because of the bell being run. No LD, but just took her to my hotel after the party started to slow down. Fucked quite a lot that night (drunk sex can be fun sometimes).

    Went to the gogo's of course, but didn't see much that really justiefied paying twice as much. Let alone what the Bangkok guys seem to consider normal.

    As someone who fucks many, many working girls in Europe, it was interesting how few girls gave me blow jobs (and when it happened, mostly during the worst sessions). At the same time it stood out how easily the girl got wet and accepted a couple of fingers in their pussy.

  10. #28845

    First Timers: Don't Neglect Pre-Trip Map Recon

    Quote Originally Posted by JC9999  [View Original Post]
    First time in Pattaya. Arrived mid-evening. All in all, I'll take the blame for my disappointing first night experience given low energy level and unfamiliarity with the city layout. (My hotel, which showed as being somewhere in between the south and central areas on the booking site map, turned out to be on North Pattaya. F* me!) Hoping to do better today, and will check out Soi 6.
    If you've never been to Pattaya, it's important to figure out the basic layout *before* you arrive. If you know where things are, you'll be able to book lodging in a place that's centrally located. You'll also be able to get where you need to go on foot, by baht bus or by motorbike taxi. Most importantly you'll be able to get down to business immediately upon arrival without wasting a bunch of time. Online maps are fine, but I also recommend buying an old-fashioned map that you can look at while you are planning your trip. I like the Groovy map of Pattaya, which I find has just right level of detail. You can buy it from Amazon for about 270 baht plus shipping.

    https://www.amazon.com/GROOVY-PATTAY.../dp/9745250333

  11. #28844

    Try these

    Quote Originally Posted by JC9999  [View Original Post]
    First time in Pattaya. Arrived mid-evening, and went to Walking Street. Seemed relatively slow and not nearly as wild as I had been imagining, but opi understand its slow season. Wasn't feeling all that spry after a traveling for 30+ hours to get here, so decided to just go with a BJ bar rather than find a bar girl and decided to head to Lxlitxs. Selection was very disappointing at 11 pm - 5 women, none attractive, maybe one in their 20's. Figured I'the just go with an older woman thinking her skills might be best. BJ was fine as she was happy to have a customer, but she didn't go deep. All in all, I'll take the blame for my disappointing first night experience given low energy level and unfamiliarity with the city layout once I arrived (My hotel, which showed as being somewhere in between the south and central areas on the booking site map, turned out to be on North Pattaya. F me! Hoping to do better today, and will check out Soi 6.
    Have always good fun in Windmill, sidestreet of walking street. Damage? Yes can be some. Or daytime? Try Kinnaree, Pratumnak Soi 4 - Damage around 2 k. But it is also a good quality bar. Be there not too late. Around 2 pm.

  12. #28843
    Quote Originally Posted by Gajith  [View Original Post]
    Indonesia is my favourite place for some years and I get local price because I speak local language. I would never ever pay more than 300 k for an ST. 100 k for a hand job or maximum 200 if the girl allows me to touch her and friendly.

    When I was exploring Kalimantan and far east, I always get girls less than 20 years of old but no english at all for 300 k.

    BTW, it is possible in every country and depends on your luck to get a non greedy girl. I am right now in BKK with the girl I met last week and she is staying with me for 2 whole nights. Did not talk about money and all but last week I paid her 1600 baht for LT.
    Unfortunately speaking the local language is not a positive in the Farang P4 P scene in BKK or Pattaya. Gals can't pull the same crap with locals that they can with tourists. My Thai is pretty good and when they ask questions in English I respond in Thai. Many times I am met with sighs and eye rolls. There are exceptions but not that many these days. Locals are not the preferred targets. We "know too much. ".

  13. #28842

    Local language gets you local price

    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    And again, compare with scenes that are driven by locals, Jakarta and even HK and you'll see quite different pricing. In Travel and Classic you get a pretty good gal for about 800 Baht and in Fuji HK, about 2 k gets you a white skinned looker.
    Indonesia is my favourite place for some years and I get local price because I speak local language. I would never ever pay more than 300 k for an ST. 100 k for a hand job or maximum 200 if the girl allows me to touch her and friendly.

    When I was exploring Kalimantan and far east, I always get girls less than 20 years of old but no english at all for 300 k.

    BTW, it is possible in every country and depends on your luck to get a non greedy girl. I am right now in BKK with the girl I met last week and she is staying with me for 2 whole nights. Did not talk about money and all but last week I paid her 1600 baht for LT.

  14. #28841
    First time in Pattaya. Arrived mid-evening, and went to Walking Street. Seemed relatively slow and not nearly as wild as I had been imagining, but opi understand its slow season. Wasn't feeling all that spry after a traveling for 30+ hours to get here, so decided to just go with a BJ bar rather than find a bar girl and decided to head to Lxlitxs. Selection was very disappointing at 11 pm - 5 women, none attractive, maybe one in their 20's. Figured I'the just go with an older woman thinking her skills might be best. BJ was fine as she was happy to have a customer, but she didn't go deep. All in all, I'll take the blame for my disappointing first night experience given low energy level and unfamiliarity with the city layout once I arrived (My hotel, which showed as being somewhere in between the south and central areas on the booking site map, turned out to be on North Pattaya. F me! Hoping to do better today, and will check out Soi 6.

  15. #28840
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    No wonder all you do is complain in the BKK thread. We get it. You don't want to spend x USD on girls. So why not just post about the girls you are doing. That might be useful. Constantly bitching about current prices of Go Go girls and other top tier girls is crying in your beer. It is unbecoming.
    Why? Because as the prices have gone up the performance for the most part has gone down. It's not like we are getting a better experience for what is often 4 times the price. Jeez, when you buy a new car you pay more than you did 20 years ago but you get better features and better performance. Unbecoming? I remember my second trip to Nom Penh in early '00. Ran into a guy who I met in Bkk in July 99. First thing he did was grab me by the shoulder and tell me, "this is what you pay the girls. " he proceeded to list the prices for different venues. To which he added, "if you pay more you'll ruin it for all of us. " That really stuck with me. And he was right. Unfortunately, tourists and two week millionaires do tend to ruin a scene. It's about them, their two weeks, and their money. It's "my money" and I'll do what I want. And most certainly that's your choice, but to act as if this has no effect is silly. And personally, that's an attitude I find unbecoming. To me paying 150 usd for st with a gal whose going it leave after one shot and try to get out in an hour or so is just nuts. I'd postulate that prices in all over Bkk and in Pattaya gogos are driven solely by tourists, which used to not be the case. And again, compare with scenes that are driven by locals, Jakarta and even HK and you'll see quite different pricing. In Travel and Classic you get a pretty good gal for about 800 Baht and in Fuji HK, about 2 k gets you a white skinned looker.

    Many aspects of the Thai p4 p scene have become quite expensive Natty. And yes, it's not so great for us residents.

    I had some great gals in Pattaya for a good price.

    Why don't I post about experiences in Bkk? Because I haven't had a memorable oily or FL in ages. It's been one meh after another. Why lost about mediocrity? Guys aren't interested. Unless it's great or there is one to avoid, it's not worth the effort to type.

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