Pattaya Reports

[EihTooms]

When I see how many people want to practice BBFS, I'm happy to put on a condom every time.

I envy any punter who can get it up and get it off just fine wearing a condom.

A mongering destination like Thailand ought to be Paradise for anyone fine with wearing a condom during sex. Just walk into any bar or club, target the best looker, work a deal for the cheapest rate she will accept and off you go. Why bother discussing just about anything else with the girl regarding the deed other than price and possibly Long Time vs Short Time? I wouldn't.

No wonder it is so much more about who gets the cheapest session for some of you lucky dudes. I mean, what else could kill the deal for you with even the hottest girl around? Throw out your lowest offer first and see if she goes for it.

I don't think I have ever sensed the least bit of resistance to go with me for whatever the girl's going rate is or less no matter how hot she is or if she is the best looker in the place (aside from the hardcore "Asian customers only" girls in a place like Thermae) until the topic of condom or no condom is raised at some point along the way.

I'm pretty sure if I could fuck and finish wearing a condom I'd be walking out with and sessioning with nothing but Thai Bargirl, FL and Fiwfans 8's, 9's and 10's on a regular basis at or a tad below the lowest rates they usually accept. I don't know why any happy condom user would ever go for anything other than that or need much advice on a site like this for how to make that happen.

[Chimpo Chinn]

I could not agree more.

Every time I suggest no Condom girl backs off.

I don't want no Condom I just ask to see Girls reaction. Not one said you give me more money. It's not even an Option.

[Goatscrot]

When I see how many people want to practice BBFS, I'm happy to put on a condom every time.

I could not agree more.

[Charles96]

At age 60 the condom was no problem, 3 and occasionally 4 pops per day during my sex destination trips. At age 67 my ability degraded so the first pop of the day could be covered, but subsequent pops needed to be BB. Now I'm approaching 70 and I need a really effective girl for me to finish covered on the first session of the day. I can only imagine the struggles I will have at age 75. Meanwhile, I have a good friend who can do CFS at age 84 without ED meds, though he can only do it about once a week.

See what you younger punters have to look forward to?

Danm!. I didn't think that far. One pop a week!. We've got to take the opportunity and pop as much as we can when it's still possible.

[HorseTrader]

.because with a condom I can either not keep it stiff anymore, or I cannot cum, or both.

At age 60 the condom was no problem, 3 and occasionally 4 pops per day during my sex destination trips. At age 67 my ability degraded so the first pop of the day could be covered, but subsequent pops needed to be BB. Now I'm approaching 70 and I need a really effective girl for me to finish covered on the first session of the day. I can only imagine the struggles I will have at age 75. Meanwhile, I have a good friend who can do CFS at age 84 without ED meds, though he can only do it about once a week.

See what you younger punters have to look forward to?

[Crocodilexp]

I don't think I have ever been quoted less than 2000 on TF. Most the girls I chat with want 2000 or 3000ST.

That's why you should throw out the offer first, and not ask them. I've rarely been refused 1000 on TF.

[EihTooms]

Me also, in the long and distant past, but the disadvantage of not negotiating it beforehand is, that it's not sure that you get it. And nowadays I need to be sure, because with a condom I can either not keep it stiff anymore, or I cannot cum, or both.
So for me it would be a waste of time and money, and also be very frustrating, if the girl I choose does not want BBFS (I can live without CIP), and I have to look for another girl.

That's me as well. I am not bothered in the least if a girl I want to fuck says no to the bb I need in order to fuck. It's up to her. I can easily move on to another girl or Line one from my ever evolving stable.

So it is no great risk of anything that really matters to me to get that agreement upfront. Except for a minor and momentary buzz kill in the bar, club or on the street. Which is nothing compared to the buzz kill I've experienced all too often after not negotiating it upfront then having the girl in my bed slap her hand over her pussy and wiggle away at the point of near penetration shouting "Condom"! And launching into a 10 minute Safety First lecture.

And I am perfectly fine with agreeing to an extra 500 baht bb surcharge for the luxury of getting all of that settled before I pay the barfine, take that first step toward my room or give my apartment location to an online freelancer.

A 1,500 baht upfront agreement for BBFS+CIP with an attractive female is a good deal, imo. A 150 baht Short Time with a super hot girl who will not go along with BBFS+CIP in the bed and recoils in horror at the thought of a BBBJ+CIM is for me a waste of 150 baht, a much bigger waste of my time and another notable buzz kill I could have done without.

And, no, I'm not going to have 3-4 wasted sessions and notable buzz kills with the same hooker in hopes that she will bless me with one Real Sex session on the 4th try, essentially paying 3-4 times the going rate even if she does grudgingly allow it on the 4th session, like I was back in high school dating virgins.

[Houston Player]

You people go to thailand to fuck?

Or do conduct experiments like scientists?

We live here.

[Charles96]

I'm here in Pattaya for one week now. The usual asking price of the girls in TF is 1500 for ST, sometimes 1200 or 1300. So I suppose it's very well possible to negotiate 1000 or 1200. I don't do that. I'm always trying to get BBFS for 1500 maximum, and I usually succeed (with the girls that want to give this service anyway).

All of the girls I had so far were below 30, ranging from 19 to 28, good looking (IMO anyway), and slim or with a little bit baby fat. With the exception of two girls. One girl was much fatter than in her pictures (in November last year I also fell in her trap, damn), and one girl was 31 (but lovely, and she has no kids).

When we have agreed on 1500, I usually do not give them a tip or transportation money.

It's a buyers market at the moment. I'm in my late fifties and pre-Covid it could be rather difficult to find nice girls below 30 yo in TF who were interested in me, but now I'm getting likes and messages from them. Not an awful lot, but many more than pre-Covid.

Another method that works for me, is simply sending messages to every girl that I like (also the young and / or hot looking ones), including my Line ID. The majority of them doesn't even read my message, some of them give me a polite but short reply and do not reply anymore when I respond to that, and a few of them give a positive response which sometimes leads to a ST (if they want to do BBFS).

All of the above applies to Pattaya only, by the way. In Bangkok it was much more difficult! There are simply way more girls in Pattaya.

Where do you negotiate from? Pattaya streets or Thai friendly.

[EihTooms]

All of that is beside the point. His argument was that two guys could not get the same girl for two different prices. He saw it as the chick would be lowering the price for me, which was not possible. I saw it as the chick would be jacking the price up for him. Could that at all happen?

Well, then I guess it's possible that the reason an online freelancer first says "1500" to one potential customer and "1,000" to another is because, as you suggest, the first guy "looks rich" and the next one "looks poor. ".

But I am inclined to think it can be for a multitude of other reasons including her immediate new and more urgent need to close a deal with somebody for something, almost anything, a series of refusals for 1500 or even the location of each punter.

Some of these girls are like taxi drivers. If the location you want them to go takes them out to the edge of town where their chances of getting another fare quick and easy is nil, they might not even agree to take you or they'll quote some ridiculous off-meter rate. But if it takes them to the center of action where they know the place is loaded with potential fares then they are into it, flip the flag and don't even try to circle the block unnecessarily to jack up the rate.

Among others.

[LookingLooking]

You people go to thailand to fuck?

Or do conduct experiments like scientists?

[Pimpampoumpipo]

When I see how many people want to practice BBFS, I'm happy to put on a condom every time.

[HorseTrader]

Why would you assume that BBFS is what I am negotiating for? There are several services which can be negociated.

I'm interested in learning what Houston and Enternational learn from their experiment. But, I'm a scientific guy and hope you can develop a more-or-less balanced experiment. I would suggest that you pick 4 TF girls, 2 approached by Houston first followed by Enternational, and 2 approached by Enternational first followed by Houston. Agree on same services that will be requested (e.g., 2 hours in your room, DFK, BBBJ, CFS).

This will give an almost fair test of prices received based on your text, pictures, ages and whatever else is important to these girls.

[Mogwai]

I've gotten much more BBFS CIP without negotiating than with. At a cheaper rate.

Me also, in the long and distant past, but the disadvantage of not negotiating it beforehand is, that it's not sure that you get it. And nowadays I need to be sure, because with a condom I can either not keep it stiff anymore, or I cannot cum, or both.
So for me it would be a waste of time and money, and also be very frustrating, if the girl I choose does not want BBFS (I can live without CIP), and I have to look for another girl.

[Mogwai]

Well I hope this is enough proof that this is not about different girls and the same lady will go for different amounts. This chick originally told me short time 1200. I told her long time 1200. She said she only does short time and charges from 1000 to 1500. I told her okay. I will do short time for 1000.

So it is very possible and probable that this same chick has told another monger like Mogwai 1500. It is true there is no special pricing; you pay what you negotiate. And if you are beyond negotiating then you pay what you are told.

It's very well possible that she told me short time 1500. But then I would have tried to negotiate BBFS for that price.
It's also possible that she told another monger 2000, or only 1000, because (like you said before) girls have their preferences too.