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  1. #25836
    Quote Originally Posted by MadaExpert  [View Original Post]
    2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.
    Yes. If you want talk easier with Thai people you have the possibility to learn Thai language too.

  2. #25835
    Quote Originally Posted by MadaExpert  [View Original Post]
    After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.

    1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.

    2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.

    3/ Living in a vacuum completely isolated from their culture and society.

    Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.
    I've lived here going close to 15 years majority all in Pattaya. Ten months you are still a baby and even younger if you are the type that lives in a vacuum. Not a criticism to those who fit into this mold but really to each their own if it works for you. Living in a vacuum means you sleep a lot will only eat western food, stay mainly in the western portion of the City, like to hang out at Sportbars and speak zero Thai although one has a motorbike.

    It really depends on one's age I assume if a person travels a lot and are looking for a place to settle down they most likely are in the retirement age. Personally, if you are just vacationing I understand guys the main objective is to get them young but if you are here long term I believe as time goes by one's criteria will be a bit higher in their age. Today, I preferred them if they are in their early twenties their attitude must be more mature but rarely even a stunner I will BF and haven't done so in near 5 years. Not really self-conscious short time okay If the room is close have no desire to walking or going anywhere with a young girl who hasn't mature mentality. I was warned years ago by a famous poster here " more you are entrenched into the Thai culture the more you will hate it here ". So today my taste has revolved the youngest I've taken lately is early 30's, not a stunner but average looks with a good personality and a body they take care plus a good pair of legs is a plus.

    You would think with the Government leaders boosting all the English learning be. S. The last ten year and being in the Asean community the people coming out of the schools would be able to speak better English but go to the nearest 7/11 and speak some English to them. It is in the range of zero and it should be better but you look at their age it is if many just graduated from High School. It is even worse outside of Bangkok and Pattaya which many Expat considers not to even be part of Thailand. So based on my opinion, the production line of girls from Isaan will continue nothing to worry about except the price will go up because they have a school of their own to know exactly what to say and ask for from us foreigners.

    Personally, if you are isolated from their culture and society it is one's own doing. But remember if you are too deep it will drive you crazy how they think is backward and that is being kind. I don't live in a vacuum I live pretty much 100% of the time with Thai, if you didn't know me you would think I was Thai, even the Thais say I look and act like a Thai. One can't live in a vacuum but too much Thai will make you go over the edge so one has to really meet a balance? You can do the same stuff every day whether you are here or at home in the West it gets boring? My saying " the grass is never greener " it is tough work to keep it green so if you are bored one needs to expand their horizon and get out and do something new, exercise play some softball maybe, go fishing, night after night, bar, gogo, yes it gets boring? You live here it goes in cycles it isn't all about pulling your dick out.

    I stay off sites like WeChat etc.. it's taken me years to get rid of the constant calling at all hours and the threats from the Thai boyfriend who seems to be threatened by an old Asian guy if they are farangs for reasons it's O.K? Today I sleep soundly and much happier narrowing who I want around me.

    Enjoy!

  3. #25834
    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    But your experience seems to differ from guys like Mr. E and Banana Boi.
    They forced to pay 200 USD for a nice girls since there are very little left at that age bracket. For me 6000 Thb including barfine means that the party is over and time to move.

  4. #25833

    Long term Pattaya residents

    Quote Originally Posted by MadaExpert  [View Original Post]
    After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months.
    Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.
    Interesting observations especially since many of us are considering living there. But your experience seems to differ from guys like Mr. E and Banana Boi. I don't know how old they are but they seem to like it there.

    For now I am spending 6 weeks each year in Thailand. I may expand my visit to two months next year. Seems like the best of both worlds for me.

    I'm a late 60's overweight guy and I occasionally get very hot looking girls. Not like when I was younger but it happens. I have upped by game a bit as MonkeyPaw would say and I don't give a shit if I get rejected any more. That is key now. Move on to the next one. I will be here for another 2 weeks and love it. Good luck and thank for your opinions.

  5. #25832
    Quote Originally Posted by MadaExpert  [View Original Post]
    After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.

    1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.

    2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.

    3/ Living in a vacuum completely isolated from their culture and society.

    Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.
    Wow. You're living in a totally different city than I am. I don't know a single girl over 45 and I know 1000's of girls under 27. Good luck in the Philippines.

  6. #25831

    Pattaya.

    After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.

    1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.

    2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.

    3/ Living in a vacuum completely isolated from their culture and society.

    Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.

  7. #25830

    All hail MonkeyPay

    Best. Story. EVER!

  8. #25829
    There is a very high turnover in bars, gogos, massage parlors and others. Girls change their workplace, city or country and there are many reasons for that. In 3-4 months we can not recognize either the atmosphere or the girls. Quality levels can fluctuate from one extreme to another.

    That's why you have to move, always change. Personally I went in a lot of countries and Pattaya remains a unique destination in the world. That said, I, too, have from time to time some disappointments, some empty passages and I sometimes pester against Pattaya.

    And I'm not a follower of nightclubs they have always fed me even young, in general I do not like music like fun radio is an absolute cheesy (I will not make me friends only this time there) it is too strong and it's complicated to understand, I arrive in shorts / flip flops so not at all in the mood and I do not want to make efforts, it ends too late at 1 o'clock in the morning I sleep, it's expensive, I find the girls rather nondescript and the ones I like look at me with contempt from top to bottom (and I give them back), etc etc.

    In these cases I turn, I go to Phuket, Bangkok, Hong Kong or the Philippines who have excellent spots too. The examples of Marrakesh and Havana also come to mind, playing cat and mouse with the local cops it's funny 5 minutes but it ends up taking me the cabbage anyway. So after a little tour to change my ideas I like to come back to Pattaya.

    There are always pretty cannons in their twenties. As for tariffs, I come to Thailand for about 10 years I find that apart from some gogos of WS that have actually exorbitant prices, they have not increased that much and even that it can fluctuate depending on the head of the customer. Sure if you take a shot of 10 or 20 years old the rates are higher now LOL.

  9. #25828
    Some info may be a little down to earth but it is for the curious, for comparison and for those who need to provide a budget holiday LOL.

    My last stay in Pattaya and Bangkok was from June 5th to June 13th. I spent 6 days in Pattaya and 3 days in Bangkok. The last 3 days in Bangkok I was with a VLT but I still made some visits to Nana Plaza and Soi Cowboy and the last day in Sukhumvit 22 massage parlors.

    In total I spent 1400 for girls and 150 for drinks during visits to the gogos. I averaged 3 girls a day. Or averaged also 51 per meeting (about 2000 B). On it I am a little cushioned on the end with my VLT but not much because she ate like 4 and he had to pay a swimsuit for the pool she had forgotten his, his transport, visits etc. .

    I did not take any girls on the beach road or in a gogo of WS I only paid lady drinks on the spot. I only went to massage parlors and pipe bar. My favorite gogos were Palace, Windmill, Sapphyr, Farenheit and What's up. The girls were between 20 and 30 years old never again.

  10. #25827

    Yes indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    ...It's not the worst thing to have to spend a night in Bangkok...
    I too prefer Pattaya, but as the song says "one night in Bangkok. " ain't too bad.

  11. #25826
    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    I used Nams last time and even though it is 1200 I will spend the extra 200 for a safe trip.
    I used her 20 years ago LOL.

  12. #25825

    The Virgin and The Model.

    Sorry for not posting in awhile, but I've been a bit busy, fucking, getting my dick sucked, and cooking in between. I know you guys are having a serious discussion about airport taxis, so hopefully this report doesn't distract attention away from that. Being late to the airport sucks. Anyways, there is a girl I have been chasing for about 2 years. She previously worked Imagine Club and What's Up and is also a lipstick lesbian. She also had a reputation of never going with customers. She makes all her money off of drinks and the 10,000 baht given to her every 10 days for her salary. Crazy thing is talking to her for all these years, she claims to be a virgin at 24 years old, never been with a guy ever. BB had a chance to meet and talk with her the last time we had drinks at Iron Club. All we did that night was chill with the her and her model friend at Iron and then bar hopped all over Walking Street. I also had a booking with another girl at What's Up, so I couldn't really make my move.

    However, the next night I returned alone to Iron with intentions to grab her 22 year model friend that's been only there a month. Both girls again were working and we sat a drank for a bit. I ended barfining the model LT because I wanted to still go look around at other go Go Go bars that night. It was only 9:00 pm. Out of the blue, the 24 year old virgin asked me can I also barfine her as well? I told her, no because she wasn't going to give up that ass to me. She said she wanted just to tag along and hang out. I looked at her square in the eyes and asked her, really what was her reason? I know this girl for 2 plus years and she is very sneaky. So when her model friend went into the dressing room to change clothes, virgin girl told me the truth. First, she already met her 10 day drink quota with the 2 drinks I bought her. Tonight was her 10th day and she didn't really want to stay at work alone. She just got paid 10,000 baht by the club. Second, she has a girl crush on her model friend that just worked their for a month. She wanted to see her friend's pussy and watch me fuck the model girl. And maybe, just maybe, she gets to play with her tits and pussy as well. I thought she was joking and was like "um, can I at least try to fuck or stick my dick in you?" Virgin girl then said what I thought was impossible after all these years. She said "OK, you can try. " I thought the apocalypse was really coming.

    Never in my mind did I ever expect this girl to let me barfine her. I called mamasan over and she had to ask virgin girl like 5 times is she really letting a customer barfine her? This mamasan also used to work Imagine and What's Up as well, so she knew this girl never went. The virgin just told the mamasan that she was going to Hollywood with us for a little bit. Virgin girl then winked at me. Barfine for both girls was only 3000 for LT. I got a Monkeypaw discount, even before midnight. I ended up taking both girls to drink and party at Palace and What's Up. Many of the girls who worked with virgin girl before at Imagine and What's Up were shocked to see her getting barfined. It was crazy all these girls that we both knew just kept coming up to us and then did a double take. They gave her a look as if anyone on Walking Street could have done it, it would have been me.

    The photo we took together was at What's Up. Of course I'm the Angel with the tattoos and then you have the girls. And yes if you were wondering, I never had issues taking photos or videos inside the club. That's how I roll. I've spent like like over 2,000,000 baht in that club alone, so I get special treats once in awhile. The other night, I was about to take a seat at What's Up when it was real crowded. There was a group of Chinese guys hogging the seats, one guy per table right next to the stage on the left as you walk in. One guy per table, I repeat! Anyways, I waived them to move closer with my hand, so I could sit down. Almost as if I was ordering them to do so. It may have been a little rude, but I know these Chinese guys mentality of entitlement too well. You see it when they attack the buffet lines at restaurants. The Chinese guy next to me just gave me a dirty look and I stared back. Then the waiters told them to move over closer to one another. There was like 5 of them. Amazingly, they all fit in 3 tables. I can over hear them saying "who is he?" They kept staring a bit at all my tattoos, but it didn't take long for them to understand the hidden meaning behind a few of them. I'm from the real underground of Hong Kong and I'm pretty sure after a few minutes they felt very uncomfortable sitting next to me. So uncomfortable that they asked waitstaff to get moved and then left.

    So back the in my room, the performances were let's say "very unexpected. " Virgin girl was to difficult to break in. Her pussy squeezed and gripped my dick so tight, I was unable to really enjoy fucking her. It felt as if I was fucking a hole in a tree or something, no matter how much KY. She was wincing and yelping too much that I had to stop. She didn't suck dick, so nothing else to report there. I wasn't going to force her to do anything. She only told me she would "try. " Model girl on other hand was a freak and did everything I wanted. If virgin wasn't there, I think she would have let me fucked her ass as well. Not sure if I wanted to try still with all those bad memories of shit on my dick in BKK. Anyways, I could write an entire page on all the sinful things that happened this night on my bed, but nah. Just know that Monkeypaw got his money's worth tonight with 6,500 total paid out to both girls. When we were all done, neither of them had the energy and virgin girl couldn't even walk. I felt bad sending them home this way, so I ended up feeding the girls some homemade tum yum goon noodles soup that I had cooked earlier. Delicious!
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  13. #25824
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    That's scary. One solution would be to have the driver sit down first and take a Modafinil (Provigil) tablet. Half and hour later he would be ripe to drive you. What with the drug scare he would refuse the tablet most probably.

    Joking aside I've had drivers ("meter" taxis) literally texting while driving from Pattaya to Suvarnabumi. I now try to book Nam's Taxi Service. Women drivers are better in such a case.

    I once tried to jot down an ID number of a texting driver in order to complain but all I could write down was a number that lead to nowhere upon subsequent search. Those guys are untraceable.
    I used Nams last time and even though it is 1200 I will spend the extra 200 for a safe trip.

  14. #25823
    Quote Originally Posted by Franga  [View Original Post]
    I once took an early morning taxi from Pattaya to the airport, like starting around 2 am. It seemed like the driver kept nodding off at times, but didn't completely fall asleep at the wheel.

    I have always remembered that experience, so now I regard that as a risk factor to consider when arranging travel times. Personally I would avoid travel between midnight and 6 am, as that is probably when most drivers would normally be sleeping.
    That's scary. One solution would be to have the driver sit down first and take a Modafinil (Provigil) tablet. Half and hour later he would be ripe to drive you. What with the drug scare he would refuse the tablet most probably.

    Joking aside I've had drivers ("meter" taxis) literally texting while driving from Pattaya to Suvarnabumi. I now try to book Nam's Taxi Service. Women drivers are better in such a case.

    I once tried to jot down an ID number of a texting driver in order to complain but all I could write down was a number that lead to nowhere upon subsequent search. Those guys are untraceable.

  15. #25822
    I usually do the same regardless of who is paying for a long haul international flight. In some cities, whereby the airport can be over an hour away and you never know about the weather or traffic, it is just less stressful to stay at an airport hotel with a shuttle. I know road warriors who consistently show up an hour or whatever is the minimum before departure. But I am getting too old for that type of stress and running and rushing. If I am too early, I just sit in a lounge and do Internet stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    I live about 3. 5 hours from Sydney airport and I always stay in Sydney overnight before I fly.

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