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  1. #38243
    How long is a typical short time / long time?

  2. #38242
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    I'm posting photos below of one GOYAa1 on TF who is asking 5000- to which I politely declined.
    I messaged her when I was there in September and she wanted 3000 for ST. Had I known I was getting a bargain, I might have taken her up on it. Not.

    She was also rude to me when we were messaging; she called me cheap because I didn't jump at the chance to overpay her.

  3. #38241
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    For a Thai man to pay money for sex in Pattaya would be rare.
    Wrong.

    Only 1% of them might have it easy with the girls.

    Others are stuck with an annoying wife and dreaming of banging the young ones or paying for it as anyone else.

    I don't even talk about the ones that fuck nothing or developped perverse mentallity like stealing underwears or putting cameras in the girls toilets.

  4. #38240

    Pattaya Gogo bar question about ST if I don't want to bring them back to my hotel

    Are there places on site, upstairs, or next door, where I can take the girl from the gogo bar for a ST??

    Something that is cheaper than renting a hotel room for the night just for the girl.

    I don't want to bring back the girl to my hotel.

  5. #38239
    We all want safe and fun. At value.

    Soi 6 1's, 2's,and 3's. 1 k and below is fair price.

    Yes there are 1's,. Quite a few. Hahaha and no offense.

    4's, 5's, 6's, and once in a blue moon 7's,. Fair price over 1 k to 2. 5 k short time. You can find these where ever you find them.

    The real pretty are in the usual places. 3 k.

    What distort s the 3 k girls is the outrageous barfine of 2 k-2. 5 k. No value in these girls.

    Could I be wrong sure. If I am I'm missing out on Hotties at 1,ooo. My bad.

  6. #38238
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    There is a recent emergence on this thread of a group of High Price Purists who are collectively authoring and endorsing an idea that we could call High Price Purity. Let me see if I can briefly Straw-Man the argument- 95% of Pattaya girls are not worth wasting one's time with, the 5% that are acceptable are to be found primarily in top tier GoGo Bars and that the seemingly high prices they command are worth it considering that all the rest is untouchable refuse.

    Corollary to this is the idea that any girl that falls within the ST 1500-2000 range is sure to be unattractive and that the Monger in question has low standards and should be ridiculed. Mr Chan Chalupa and Mr Paolo99 please chime in and tell me where I've got your views wrong here because I readily admit it's a Straw Man for rhetorical effect.

    I find it interesting, on LATAM threads there usually is pressure from the board to brag about securing low prices with mongers gaming their reported prices down to impress the Peanut Gallery. Here (for the moment) it seems to be now reversed- with a pressure to report higher prices indicating status, taste, and discernment. I will not speculate about what is generating this dynamic, but will at least agree that most of the girls in Pattaya are completely no-go (to be polite), but that means little since there are just so many women.

    I'm posting photos below of one GOYAa1 on TF who is asking 5000- to which I politely declined. For one, she seems like a real unpleasant person (if she's even the one running her TF), and I'm not the type that likes Dominatrixes or getting pegged, etc. I will not give her a number on the controversial 1-10 scale, but I think most will agree she's pretty hot. This to me, is no guarantee of a fun time- with many things that could go wrong, from requiring all covered service, to being a cold and bad lay- the potential for a total wash is there and while 5000 is not a lot to me, I'd rather get 4 BJ's at a GC than have one experience, that even if it did go right, might not be any more fun.

    And that's the bottom line- did the monger have fun? It could be that for the High Price Purist, part of the fun is paying top dollar and that is central to his matrix of stimulation. He needs that ego boost to enjoy the sex. On the other end, the bargain hunter is looking to be ahead on the deal and that feeling gives him power. I would say I fall in the middle- I don't want a girl that is too hot (I need to be able to believe she's into me), but I need her to be fuckable by my standards (which are as I've said- petite, slim, face on 6. 5-8. 5 range). I think 1500-2500 is reasonable for this ask. I don't need to bargain hunt and sort through refuse at below 1500, but I don't want to pay more and feel like I'm getting ripped off. Please let me know what I've got wrong here Mr CC and P99, I'm all ears.
    I'm pretty sure I've been saying lower priced girls, aka as 1,000 bathters are highly unattractive.

    I'm pretty sure I've been saying Pretty girls are not found on Soi 6. Corollary to that they don't cost 1,000 baht.

    Judging by looks yes a looker at Palace is worth 3 x a 1 k Soi 6 girl.

    I still don't get how you price a girl other than by looks.

    You take a 500 beach road girl who rockers your world. She is a 3 by the way. Do you pay her next time 1,500 for performance or do you still pay 500 because she still kinda Ugly. Hahaha.

  7. #38237

    Enter the High Price Purists

    There is a recent emergence on this thread of a group of High Price Purists who are collectively authoring and endorsing an idea that we could call High Price Purity. Let me see if I can briefly Straw-Man the argument- 95% of Pattaya girls are not worth wasting one's time with, the 5% that are acceptable are to be found primarily in top tier GoGo Bars and that the seemingly high prices they command are worth it considering that all the rest is untouchable refuse.

    Corollary to this is the idea that any girl that falls within the ST 1500-2000 range is sure to be unattractive and that the Monger in question has low standards and should be ridiculed. Mr Chan Chalupa and Mr Paolo99 please chime in and tell me where I've got your views wrong here because I readily admit it's a Straw Man for rhetorical effect.

    I find it interesting, on LATAM threads there usually is pressure from the board to brag about securing low prices with mongers gaming their reported prices down to impress the Peanut Gallery. Here (for the moment) it seems to be now reversed- with a pressure to report higher prices indicating status, taste, and discernment. I will not speculate about what is generating this dynamic, but will at least agree that most of the girls in Pattaya are completely no-go (to be polite), but that means little since there are just so many women.

    I'm posting photos below of one GOYAa1 on TF who is asking 5000- to which I politely declined. For one, she seems like a real unpleasant person (if she's even the one running her TF), and I'm not the type that likes Dominatrixes or getting pegged, etc. I will not give her a number on the controversial 1-10 scale, but I think most will agree she's pretty hot. This to me, is no guarantee of a fun time- with many things that could go wrong, from requiring all covered service, to being a cold and bad lay- the potential for a total wash is there and while 5000 is not a lot to me, I'd rather get 4 BJ's at a GC than have one experience, that even if it did go right, might not be any more fun.

    And that's the bottom line- did the monger have fun? It could be that for the High Price Purist, part of the fun is paying top dollar and that is central to his matrix of stimulation. He needs that ego boost to enjoy the sex. On the other end, the bargain hunter is looking to be ahead on the deal and that feeling gives him power. I would say I fall in the middle- I don't want a girl that is too hot (I need to be able to believe she's into me), but I need her to be fuckable by my standards (which are as I've said- petite, slim, face on 6. 5-8. 5 range). I think 1500-2500 is reasonable for this ask. I don't need to bargain hunt and sort through refuse at below 1500, but I don't want to pay more and feel like I'm getting ripped off. Please let me know what I've got wrong here Mr CC and P99, I'm all ears.
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  8. #38236
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    I'm on the west coast and it ends up being about the same amount of time for us crossing the pacific and connecting primarily through Japan, the trip ends up being around 30 hours to BKK. In addition, it consists of three flights for me as I don't live near an international hub.

    Good to hear things are still well like last year in Pattaya.

    Looking forward to your reports.
    I have the flight from Hell coming up.

    Air Nippon LAX. NRT middle seat. I would pay money for an upgrade, but no can do.

    Arrive in BKK at 04.30 AM.

    I will be zonked for a week upon arrival.

  9. #38235
    Quote Originally Posted by TopRahul83  [View Original Post]
    I'm a non-drinker, 1st time visiting. Can I just enter and ask for ST room?
    You go into the bar, and order a Coke. Pick a lady, buy her a drink. Then discuss ST with her.

  10. #38234
    Quote Originally Posted by ChanChalupa  [View Original Post]
    I doubt a Girl who can regularly get 2,000 from Mr Nakamura from Japan is also servicing Mr Somchai from Nakhon Nowhere for 1,000.
    A girl getting big bucks is likely to have a live in Thai boyfriend who she gives money to.

    For a Thai man to pay money for sex in Pattaya would be rare.

  11. #38233
    Quote Originally Posted by KrumeLurer  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. And the prices asked from tourists are one step above what is asked from the locals. A women that would be happy with 1000 baht from a thai customer, want 1500-2000 from a tourist. And that is why you just say that you pay max 1000, or 1500 for a younger and cuter one. Check the sideline webpages. See what thais are paying. I have seen several gogo-class girls receiving customers for 30 minutes a 1000 baht. 1500 for 60 minutes. Older ladies get less.
    My understanding as to the prices at go- go's was because of the bars paying girls on 10 - 30 day contracts, they have to increase the barfine and sometimes require you buy the girl a required number of lady bar drinks to complete the deal. That's the bars break even pricing. That said, the 8 - 10 rated girls have always been able to command higher ST and LT fares.

  12. #38232

    A Pattaya rookie with a question about MClub

    Thailand vet, but Pattaya rookie. Done some research, and while nothing is as good as first hand experience, would like to get opinions about MClub if anyone has one to share. I have heard Heaven is a fun G club, but I have also heard they have had a name change. Any information is appreciated!

    TIA.

    Sky.

  13. #38231
    Quote Originally Posted by JagerMister  [View Original Post]

    At beer bars thats how it works - buy your drinks, ask Mamasan for ST room. done
    I'm a non-drinker, 1st time visiting. Can I just enter and ask for ST room?

  14. #38230
    Pattaya gets this post. Has more action here. Same as Bangkok.

    You meet a 3. 5 looker in a Bar.

    1. Get married soon?

    2. Front $5,000 so she can start a bussiness.

    3. Buy a $2,300 scooter, neither of you has a Driver's License.

    4. Day after buying scooter get upset she gets a new tattoo, say $100.

    5. Agree to $15,000 sin soot.

    6. Imply to said Bargirl and her family real estate will be bought soon after marriage.

    7. Bought gold,. Not know value.

    Would anyone do 1 above let alone all 7?

    SUSpendas on you tube. Part of Ice Poseidon s crew. Using crew lightly. Maybe better to say he knows Ice.

    Yes he is stupid. No offense.

    Wears fake Gucci Outfits. Funny.

    Invented the word Jawns. Girls.

  15. #38229
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    I'm back in Pattaya for hopefully most or all of the summer.

    As I get older, the flight over from the US East coast gets more challenging- both in terms of handling the 26-30 hour flight duration and the 11 hour jet lag time zone displacement. Science* says that one day of recovery is required for every time zone crossed and I've found this to be true. European / Aussie mongers will not experience this problem and think us American's soft but I assure you the struggle is real. I spent my "recovery" time in high energy trekking type stuff in other SEA countries which was probably not wise in some ways but turned out ok. I arrived in Pattaya more or less recovered from the circadian displacement. My plan for future trips is to break the flight up with a day or so in Doha or Dubai, or even 3 or 4 in Istanbul..
    I'm on the west coast and it ends up being about the same amount of time for us crossing the pacific and connecting primarily through Japan, the trip ends up being around 30 hours to BKK. In addition, it consists of three flights for me as I don't live near an international hub.

    Good to hear things are still well like last year in Pattaya.

    Looking forward to your reports.

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