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Originally Posted by Syzygies
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I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.
I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.
Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.
So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.
Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.
Syzy, have you gone to Pattaya recently and surveyed the potential talent there? I would be interested to know where and how often your standards of beauty apply in that location these days. By my observation, seeing a truly well put together girl in terms of basic body and facial features is a very heavy lift in Pattaya. Virtually anywhere in town. There are some, very rare though, in terms of natural DNA, youth, fitness, whatever. But almost without exception they spoil it with big ugly tattoos in the worst possible places, weird piercings, braying nasally voices, heavy cigarette smoking, gobs of garish make-up and general turn off demeanor. For me, that is.
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.
I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.
I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.
Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.
So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.
Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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Most gogo bars in Pattaya open at 8 pm with a few exceptions like Windmill, Baccara, etc. Some actually aren't opening until 8:30 now. Guess they figure business is slow at 8 pm which it is. You have to act quickly in a gogo bar. Japanese and Korean men are impatient. They barfine a girl within a minute after even seeing the one they like on stage.
Walking Street is full of fairly wealthy Japanese and Korean and more recently Chinese. These guys don't do ST. The 2000 baht is irrelevant to them. They all take girls LT and take them to a disco or other gogo bars before going back to their hotel. It's not that common to see girls return to the bar after a ST. They usually take the opportunity to go out with their friends or guys they like to hang out with. IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.
Oh so its quite different than Bangkok where I see top girls cycling through ST customers all night.
So if you say competition is much stiffer. The girls are looking for what?
Young? Fun? Charming? Handsome? Boyfriend?
I'm 4 out of the 5, you can guess which I'm not tryna be LOL.
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Originally Posted by RobJones
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There was in February a restaurant / bar called Country Road on Soi 4. It was near the Ibis. The establishment I'm referring to is called the Bus Stop. It is on the opposite side of Soi 4 from NEP.
Country Road was still there October 2018.
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Originally Posted by Bkkdog
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That would be great if my post was about scooters but it wasn't. It was about the I-Rovers sports bar in LK Metro. Why did you think I was talking about Scooters?
At times although we should keep things simple it is just too simple to some?
As you noted I-Rover just because it has the word Bar it doesn't mean it is a place you can barfine the girls. ! There are a number of places just outside of I-Rover, that serve food and have girls you can BF, they are pretty obvious because there are servers and girls sitting on stools doing nothing but being eye candy. Jibby's, Scooters, Billibong there are about a half dozen of them if not more.
As for I-Rover, the girls are mainly servers of food and I-rovers from what I understand there are girls that will go with you but no during work hours and certainly they aren't going to drop their plate of fries for a customer and go upstairs with you for ST or LT, I know this from regulars I know but never ask or care because I never have seen anything I like, plus I have a rule business is business and pleasure is pleasure that means for me what I eat I don't want anyone messing with it?
A place like I-Rover food watching sports girls talk and certainly they aren't going to go with a customer who stays at the place which is what the original question was about. As you noted you ask and if they do it is going to be off hours and at your place not upstairs at I-rover. It isn't a really Bar as the others!
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Originally Posted by Bkkdog
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Country Road was a bar in Soi Cowboy not a restaurant.
There was in February a restaurant / bar called Country Road on Soi 4. It was near the Ibis. The establishment I'm referring to is called the Bus Stop. It is on the opposite side of Soi 4 from NEP.
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Originally Posted by RobJones
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Last time I was in BKK my brother bar fined a server. This restaurant was in Soi 4 NEP opposite side of the road and Country Road was the name. We had dinner there and he jokingly asked how much to barfine and she gave him a price and I remember she said he was her first customer since working there for 1 week. We both went to Nana but he went back and took her.
Whether it was a barfine or after shift I don't know because I wasn't with him but I do recall her confirming barfines before we left.
Country Road was a bar in Soi Cowboy not a restaurant.
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Originally Posted by Bkkdog
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Really? Who would serve the food and drinks if they could be bar fined?
Last time I was in BKK my brother bar fined a server. This restaurant was in Soi 4 NEP opposite side of the road and Country Road was the name. We had dinner there and he jokingly asked how much to barfine and she gave him a price and I remember she said he was her first customer since working there for 1 week. We both went to Nana but he went back and took her.
Whether it was a barfine or after shift I don't know because I wasn't with him but I do recall her confirming barfines before we left.
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Originally Posted by JavaMan
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Perhaps a new development as they were barfinable before. I saw them get bar fined on several occasions.
Really? Who would serve the food and drinks if they could be bar fined?
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Originally Posted by Breadman
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I barfined a waitress from Scooters bar on soi 6 a few years back so I'm assuming you can barfine them at all of their bars.
That would be great if my post was about scooters but it wasn't. It was about the I-Rovers sports bar in LK Metro. Why did you think I was talking about Scooters?
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Originally Posted by BananaBoi
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IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.
That is one way if looking at it. And I might agree with you if the percentage of good looking girls to mediocre looking girls in the scene in Pattaya came close to that in Bangkok. But it doesn't.
In my case and observation, the key words are "attractive girls" in Pattaya that I would want to have real sex with, as in BBFS or BBBJ+CIM.
So my way of looking at it is the girls who cannot compete and have given up trying to get good customers in Bangkok go to Pattaya where the customer base is far less discerning and particular about the looks and skills of the P4P girls.
Not sure I have seen more than 2 girls in the whole city, including non pros working in the malls, that I'd leave my room 10 minutes earlier for in hopes that this will be my lucky day to catch her before the mad rush and be graced with her company for an hour, regardless of the money.
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Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Not just hardcore, but less attractive and generally pathetic in bed for someone like me who considers BBFS and/or BBBJ+CIM with young, attractive girls
I'm happy to read that girls aren't doing BBFS with everyone. I have actually cut off some girls because they offered BBFS. With familiarity, girls including the supposed low mileage gogo girls do BBFS. More common is BBFS on Soi 6 or a G club if you are a repeat customer. BBBJ + CIM is very common on Soi 6 and almost a given in a G Club. Swallowing not so much. Most run to spit. Only time I ever see a Thai girl move quickly.
Originally Posted by Phazze93
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Wdym top girls are gone within 1 hour of bar opening? Don't most gogo bars open at like 6-7 pm?
My experience before in BKK at least was that top girls much preferred doing multiple STs to get more $$$ & that if you wanted to LT barfine her earlier on in the night, she'd quote much higher than if it were later?
I mean shit, please tell me I'm wrong because if pattaya is different. I'm going to be waiting outsite the gogos before they even open and barfining the #1 girl LT every night haha.
Most gogo bars in Pattaya open at 8 pm with a few exceptions like Windmill, Baccara, etc. Some actually aren't opening until 8:30 now. Guess they figure business is slow at 8 pm which it is. You have to act quickly in a gogo bar. Japanese and Korean men are impatient. They barfine a girl within a minute after even seeing the one they like on stage.
Walking Street is full of fairly wealthy Japanese and Korean and more recently Chinese. These guys don't do ST. The 2000 baht is irrelevant to them. They all take girls LT and take them to a disco or other gogo bars before going back to their hotel. It's not that common to see girls return to the bar after a ST. They usually take the opportunity to go out with their friends or guys they like to hang out with. IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.
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Originally Posted by NattyBumpo
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Just bear in mind EihTooms that my requirements are not as stringent as yours are. I do enjoy BBFS, DATY, and 69, for example, with certain select girls that measure up, but I do not expect BBFS, I am just willing to engage in it when it is available from the right girls.
You know Thai girls better than me so you know that a lot of them won't offer it or consider it until they know you better. - usually after 3 or 4 sessions, some won't consider it with a punter for months, and some never. All I am saying is that holding to your requirements eliminates the number of otherwise attractive candidates quite significantly. After my trip is over I will calculate the number of BBFS girls I have had. I have had a number of them, but I estimate not even 50%.
Understood. But I am still in for a genuine and complete BBBJ+CIM, my other option. The problem with me and Pattaya is my either/or flexibility on this does not eliminate the number of attractive candidates in Bangkok (even last night and this very day too) nearly as severely as it has in Pattaya over the past several years. Which is why I have written off Pattaya as a worthwhile P4P destination of late. For me.
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Tinder, ST 1200 baht, bingo!
Just as I was fearing a repeat of yesterday's dud I struck gold, the only bad news was that she'll be leaving Thailand in one week for want of a visa extension. Real Kenyan gazelle, a 9 on Tinder and a good 8 in flesh and blood. God those endless legs! And that pussy tasting like pussy, not like rotten fish dissolved in betadine. A black girl I would session even in her own country. Rather uninteractive in bed, no GF bullshit or fake orgasm but what a sight! I needed my eyes to get tintillated, not my ego.
I'll try to pack her into my schedule over the next few days. Meet her in Bali in January if she's still there. Well, provided she has not got too spoiled by Bali prices by then.
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Originally Posted by EihTooms
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A friend of mine from USA is coming to Thailand for the first time in a few days and I assumed we would take a side trip to Pattaya for 2-3 days so he can check it out. Ok, I'll pony up whatever thousands of baht it takes to try one of those "agency girls" and see what happens. Hopefully I can keep from wasting most of that money if I can have a clear and unambiguous chat with the girl before laying out serious money to see if it is at all possible to get a truthful "Yes" agreement to just one of my two critical requests. If not, I'm coming to this forum to blame YOU! (hehe).
Just bear in mind EihTooms that my requirements are not as stringent as yours are. I do enjoy BBFS, DATY, and 69, for example, with certain select girls that measure up, but I do not expect BBFS, I am just willing to engage in it when it is available from the right girls.
You know Thai girls better than me so you know that a lot of them won't offer it or consider it until they know you better. - usually after 3 or 4 sessions, some won't consider it with a punter for months, and some never. All I am saying is that holding to your requirements eliminates the number of otherwise attractive candidates quite significantly. After my trip is over I will calculate the number of BBFS girls I have had. I have had a number of them, but I estimate not even 50%.
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