Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

After the last disaster, met a young slim girl from TF. I asked her if I can remove condom as I was not getting enough feeling and not able to cum even after 20 minutes. She said "up to you".

Funny how some people swear this must to be negotiated in advance and if not then if the chick does it she was not old and she was butt ugly. Who swears something is impossible simply on the basis that they are not able to do it?

[ElMexicant]

What's the modus operandi for TF. I updated my headline as "looking for short time 1500 baht" as suggested by one monger here. Lots of chicks showing interest but only few are good looking and they are not replying to messages. Only average lookers are messaging.

Even upgraded to premium to chat with the "popular" profiles but they are also not viewing messages!

Ice water runs through my veins. Not quite God's gift to women, but damn close. I consider myself doing charity every time I pay these girls for sex. Honestly, I think I am a "good catch" when it comes to girls. So my approach on TF has always been straight to the point. See pic. I do the same at bars / GoGo bars / or at a club. I don't need to get to know them with silly question or small talk. I just want to bang. And my logic is "better me than the next guy. " Take my dinero. I may even ask for a handsome man discount.

[Paolo99]

This girl here just trips me out. Her profile is so funny. And weird at the same time

What a dumb profile, that only suggests she became a very arrogant person. She probably searched for hours to finally come with that piece of theater while she could have it done in three words: Don't text me.

Unless she and the guys that keep sending messages to her (Indian guys maybe?) find it funny.

So, what's the plan in her mind? Once she'll find some guys dumb enough to go through all her BS, what is she going to do next? Split to their faces?

[Ulalaulala123]

TF Encounter 2:

After the last disaster, met a young slim girl from TF who actually worked in a bar. Her TF photos are also in a bar dress. I selected her as she was smiling in the photos, and after the last horrible encounter I was bit wary of non smiling girls. Looks wise she is cute, but not sexy type. She was also happy she got some business as I was her 1st customer for the day, and it was already 7 pm.

She came wearing a long sweatshirt type dress. When she removed it, lo and behold. A smiling bar girl in bar dress in my hotel room!

My only disappointment was with her boobs (or the lack of it, almost flat chested). So much that I wondered if my TF luck has gone from bad to worse and I got a ladyboy this time LOL. She does make up for it with her willingness for anything. Was in a lip lock with her for the entire session. Good sport! Can take a heavy banging, and even ok for bareback. I asked her if I can remove condom as I was not getting enough feeling and not able to cum even after 20 minutes. She said "up to you". So did a quick inspection of her privates and went bareback. Asked for permission to release inside. "Up to you" came the reply, so I came inside after few minutes of heavy banging.

Cuddled for 5 minutes and went for shower, then bid our goodbyes.

TF Encounter 3:

After gaining some confidence with the cute TF bar girl, I decided to give it a try with sexy pussy again. Agreed for 1700 baht for a young beauty. When I saw her at reception, I was very happy with her looks but still had doubts on the service part. She was friendly and speaking good English. Once in the room, she removed dress and I was able to see and appreciate her flawless beauty, she smiled and said "I am shy" and went for shower. I knew I was in for a good time and thanked my lucky stars heheh. It was a nice session but I couldn't bang her hard as I was worried I will come sooner (happened with me before with pretty chicks, maybe I should take a delay pill or spray for such occasions).

Finished the session, took some selfies and bid our goodbyes.

We need these type of girls in life, not the bitches like the one I got in 1st encounter. I followed same approach for all the 3 TF girls but not sure why 1st one was a complete *****. Maybe as one poster said, YMMV.

Overall two very nice experiences. Will use ThaiFriendly more frequently in my next Pattaya trips. I kind of regret sticking mostly to soapies in my last few trips and even at starting of this trip. Although soapy girls were also nice (mostly), they were expensive and kind of lower in quality (age, looks) compared to TF girls.

[Mr Enternational]

Don't forget that E is also a long term resident. Girls know that a resident is far more likely to pass and wait for an acceptable offer or simply call one of the other 1000 Contacts than a horny week long visitor.

It is not that at all. Remember I go to many other places where I do not live and operate the same way. I have friends in the know that do not live here and come and go other places and operate the same way. Then I have friends that live here and operate like the horny week long visitor. When some of them tell me how much they gave a chick I am like why.

I reported about a buddy coming here a couple of weeks ago for the first time and no matter what I told him, he operated like a horny guy that was here for 1 week, until he got experience and realized what I was telling him would work. His problem was that he falls in love with every chick he lays eyes on, so he was putty in their hands. Just yesterday he sent me a conversation with one of the chicks he fucked here. He called her queen and was surprised she was not pregnant. I said mf she is no queen and they go get the morning after pill for 30 baht if they are not already on birth control. Then he was like it makes so much sense now. No shit Sherlock. But I guess you can't blame a guy for not knowing what he does not know and buying into a fantasy that these are queens deserving of 4000 baht and not poor farmer chicks that would otherwise take a couple of months to make that.

I am not a must have kind of guy. So if I am not getting it under my terms then I do not mind passing up on something. Besides, most places that I go I have plenty of free chicks to fuck, so it is not like I have to pay or have a dry dick. I do the shit for fun and not out of necessity, therefore I am able to keep a level head when it comes to making a deal or go on to the next one.

[EihTooms]

You are absolutely 100% correct. This is what I keep telling them. Long stays get better deals. Though, they keep not believing.

The guy who gets the best deals in terms of service levels is the sad, seemingly inexperienced rube who claims to have just arrived in Thailand and will only be here for a week or so. Even better than average lookers will try very hard to rock his world in the first session on the hope that this sad inexperienced rube who has probably not gotten laid in his home country for a year will be so impressed by her "beauty", so grateful and perhaps even "in love" that he will want to see her every day of his stay and continue showing his gratitude long after he has returned home with serious baht transfers. She might not even charge him her top dollar for fear of scaring away such a cream puff mark.

And, yes, by "rock his world" I am referring to BBFS+CIP, BBFS+CIM+Swallow, you name it. Why not? This sad inexperienced rube hasn't had sex in so long he must be safe, right? LOL.

That guy is a much better score for her in terms of a potential long term ATM easy money income source than a recognized local resident, especially a seemingly highly experienced one, who, in her mind, must surely be riddled with disease by now, has many more experiences against which she might pale in comparison and, worst of all, there is little to zero chance that guy is going to be leaving anytime soon, at which point he might devote the following year to sending her serious baht for nothing.

Quite the contrary; whenever she want money from the guy who lives right down the soi from her she has to actually show up and work for it. That is definitely NOT a better deal for her vs that sad, seemingly inexperienced rube who hasn't gotten laid in. A year back home I cited above. She will work harder for the latter than the former.

[ElMexicant]

Don't forget that E is also a long term resident. Girls know that a resident is far more likely to pass and wait for an acceptable offer or simply call one of the other 1000 Contacts than a horny week long visitor.

The same goes for attitude. Who cares about pleasing a guy that's going to be gone tomorrow. Please a resident and she can likely call to drop around again when the rent is due.

Enjoy. G.

You are absolutely 100% correct. This is what I keep telling them. Long stays get better deals. Though, they keep not believing.

[EihTooms]

For a "popular" girl betwen 18-24 1000 is not realistic anymore nowadays. At least not on average. Might get lucky every now and then but that will be more of an exception than the norm.

Exactly. Whether it is on ThaiFriendly or live and in person on the street or in a bar or club, hot 18-24 year olds are not reaching out to or responding to every punter within their view.

Sorry, but nobody is batting 1000 with hot 18-24 year-olds for 1000-1500 baht and sure as hell not routinely getting no discussion / no hassle BBFS+CIP with them on an initial session with them for 1000-1500 baht. If for no other reason than hot 18-24 year-olds are rarely if ever reaching out to anyone because they are too busy fielding offers to accept their initial quote for covered everything including a HJ.

In Thailand, the only real challenge is to convince a much better than average looker (usually young) to agree to BBFS+CIP or BBBJ+CIM / BBBJ+CIM+Swallow and / or I suppose some form of Anal. And nobody is routinely getting that on first-time sessions with hot 18-24 year-olds for 1000-1500 baht.

However, it is utterly easy for virtually anyone to routinely get whatever they want from well below average lookers for 1000-1500 baht or even free. Similarly, it is utterly easy for virtually anyone to get covered sex with the hottest girl in any room, on the street or online, the only challenge in that being to simply offer more money if necessary.

But that latter solution, simply offering more money, does not necessarily work with truly hot 18-24 year-olds because they are already making a sweet living and then some by only laying there for covered sex. Or, these days, by just chatting online and rarely if ever encountering a live and in person penis at all other than their boyfriend's.

[Sir Lancelot]

When I write these diaries I try to give the most honest description I can. I'll talk about the good and the bad, that way it can give any would-be visitor a realistic portrayal of the frustrations you can sometimes encounter. Today was one of those days.

I had a lie-in and after dropping off a bag of laundry to the cheerful lady at the laundrette opposite my hotel, went for a leisurely breakfast. I like getting a table overlooking the street and looking at the world go by.

My hope was to arrange an afternoon quickie in my room but Nui the nympo was in Cambodia and my favourite Myth girl wasn't reading her messages. For some reason I can't log in to Tinder either, I think possibly I've been suspended for using one of their blacklisted words. So I had the settle for a short-time with a very challenging cryptic crossword.

At 5 pm I decided to head out for some afternoon fun. I had a brainwave, for a change I'd try the gents clubs on soi Boomerang. It's an L-shaped road just off soi Buakhao, near the hospital. However the collection of girls outside the clubs were very uninspiring. If I had seen one girl even remotely enticing I'd have invited her inside for a drink, but they were all older dears. I abandoned the idea.

At this time of night the bars are just starting to open so I decided to stroll around and see if I could see a pretty girl to short-time. I walked along soi Pothole, turned right on to Buakhao then left on to Soi Honey but didn't see a girl to tempt me. I backtracked on to Tree Town, which was still largely closed except for an enthusiastic gaggle of girls outside Area 52, then walked through Myth. Again, no-one grabbed my attention.

I was enjoying the walk though, so decided to stroll to soi 6. But even my favourite street in the world failed to deliver. I walked the entire length twice and didn't see any standout contenders. I wonder whether maybe three weeks in to my trip I've become blase. I bet if today was my first day I'd have seen lots of girls to pique my interest.

Although I didn't see any girls to tempt me, a lot of girls showed interest in me. Three separate girls ran to me on the street who I've previously fucked.

The first was a gorgeous girl I met on my soi 6 bar-crawl two weeks ago. She ran out from the bar and gave me a bone-crushing hug, nearly knocking me off my feet, so I happily bought her a drink. She looked sublime and I was very tempted to take her upstairs again (not least because she delivered a really passionate session) but I was on the search for the 30th girl of my trip.

Back on the street outside I was grabbed by another girl who I'd been with earlier in the trip and then further down, outside Shooters, a third girl said 'remember me? ' It was a tall, skinny girl I'd fucked 18 months ago. I was very impressed that she recognised me. We reminisced about the lipstick incident. After I'd taken her upstairs she showered me with kisses, so much so when I saw my reflection in the mirror I looked like The Joker!

By this point I'd done three recces up and down the street and didn't want to run the gauntlet again. I saw a reasonably cute young girl in a pushup bra at one of the bars near the beach end and bought her a drink. But things stalled when we discussed prices. Firstly, the bar didn't have a room, which is highly unusual. Secondly, brace yourself, she quoted 4000 for short-time! Bearing in mind the bar didn't have a room, I assume this price was for a takeaway two hour short-time but even so, 4000 is higher than Walking Street short-time prices! She was a fairly average girl too, sweet and cute for sure, a standard 1000 baht soi 6 girl in my book. She hardly spoke any English and our negotiations were conducted entirely on Google Translate, so I'm sure something was lost in translation.

So for the first time on this trip, soi 6 failed to deliver.

I walked back along the beach and up soi 7, which has disappointed me so far on this trip. However I saw a fresh-faced cutie sat at one of the bars. Talk about a diamond in the rough. Again I'd love to be able to tell you the name of the bar but can't as ElMexicant will try to post a photo of the girl, and in this case there's more reason than ever not to let her identity be revealed.

She was a very cute girl with a big untamed mane of hair. She didn't speak a word of English so an older girl in the bar acted as translator. She told me the girl was just 20. When I told the older girl I'd like to barfine the pretty girl she told me that the bar had an arrangement with a hotel at the end of the street and a short-time room would cost 500. The girl's price was 1500. When I was settling the bill the older girl asked me to take care of the young girl as I was her first customer.

We walked to the hotel and the room was very sparse and dreary, with traffic noise from 2nd Road a constant rumble. The girl became very shy once we were alone in the room. I've had girls like this before and you just have to try to relax them and take your time. It's one of the risks of targeting young and innocent types, that sometimes you get one who has no experience at all.

But this girl was very hard work. She wouldn't get undressed and then eventually reluctantly took her shorts and knickers off. She wouldn't let me touch her pussy so I lay back and she wanked me in a very half-hearted fashion. It was only when she took me in her mouth I started getting an erection. The sex lasted about one minute. She was extraordinarily tight, I could only get in two or three inches and whenever I tried to push further she closed her legs with a painful grimace. I looked at her face and she looked scared.

I've never forced a girl to do anything against her will and this girl clearly wasn't ready. I rolled off, kissed her on the forehead and told her I was finished.

We both got changed and sat at the end of the bed. Using Google Translate I said 'I don't know what to pay you. You not want to have sex and I did not want to force you'. She replied '500 is okay'.

Life as a monger doesn't always run smoothly, sometimes you have experiences like these. To be honest, I felt sad for her. She was so nervous but at least she tried. After I gave her the agreed 500 her demeanour completely changed. She was relaxed and giggly and gave me a farewell hug.

I walked back towards my hotel through Myth. I barfined a lovely girl last year at Krazy 80's Bar on soi Buakhao but their girls are older now. Next door at G&J there seemed to be a crop of generally younger girls.

I did a loop through Tree Town and bought a drink for a lovely looking girl at Buddy Bar. This a strange bar. Almost every time I walk past there is a severe lack of girls, never mind talent, to such a degree it is an easy bar to miss. But every now and then the bar has a collection of younger, prettier girls, that usually only lasts a day or two. The barfine is 1000 here but drops to 600 after midnight. I got the girl's Line and went to get myself a burger at 3 Town Steak.

Normally I'd be all-in for a night visiting lots of bars but inhaling cigarette smoke had made me start coughing. I bought a honey lemon iced tea, the best medication I've found.

With my chest infection in mind I decided to walk up soi Honey as a massage-with-extras would be the perfect solution. No cigarette smoke, no drinking, just a seedy quickie behind a curtain, perfect.

Sadly there were slim pickings at the massage shops but I did see one nice younger girl standing outside one of the bars, wearing an elegant white dress. She wasn't a stunner, but she was nice enough and I'd reached the point in the night when I just needed a girl. I invited her inside for a drink. Usually the deal in these kind of bars is you can take your girl upstairs to a short-time room but this bar didn't have one, so I had to barfine her for 500 and take her back to my hotel. She asked for 1500 short-time but accepted 1000.

The sex was pretty standard affair, both of us going through the motions, and she was out of my room before midnight.

[Axiata]

Nice to see you and your Wingman make your return to Pattaya. Was thinking of you guys when I was there. Glad you were able to adapt while on the ground. That's what I find many guys aren't able to do. You saw the gogo bars weren't up to par so you shifted to Soi 8. Shooters Soi 8 is always fun. I had been hearing that Soi 7 and Soi 8 are picking up again.

Thanks BB. I did walk along soi 7 & 8 a few times on the way to Shooters. You are right that there is some life there and some bars worth looking into. One bar looked good with a few girls worth a punt. I think it was Dark Angel? On Soi 8. Not far up from beach road corner. Will drop into that next time I am there. So many options in Pattaya and so little time! Look forward to catching up when we are next there.

Happy hunting.

[Goferring]

I reckon because you tell them what you'll pay, rather than asking what they'll charge.

Don't forget that E is also a long term resident. Girls know that a resident is far more likely to pass and wait for an acceptable offer or simply call one of the other 1000 Contacts than a horny week long visitor.

The same goes for attitude. Who cares about pleasing a guy that's going to be gone tomorrow. Please a resident and she can likely call to drop around again when the rent is due.

Enjoy. G.

[Argo1990]

I reckon because you tell them what you'll pay, rather than asking what they'll charge.

I always found that approach useful. If you start with "is 1000 ok? They can up you to 1200 or so and be happy. If they start with 2000, you can lower it to 1500, and they'll be unhappy about it.

For a "popular" girl betwen 18-24 1000 is not realistic anymore nowadays. At least not on average. Might get lucky every now and then but that will be more of an exception than the norm.

[Crocodilexp]

Not sure how I keep batting 1000 on Thai Friendly and others are not. I guess it is like I said. I understand it is a numbers game, while others are getting set on 1 chick and frustrated when it falls through. This chick has been pestering me to see her but I have not had time. She started sending freak pics and vids of herself today, and it made me cave in. Made a deal for 1000 later on tonight.

I reckon because you tell them what you'll pay, rather than asking what they'll charge.

I always found that approach useful. If you start with "is 1000 ok? They can up you to 1200 or so and be happy. If they start with 2000, you can lower it to 1500, and they'll be unhappy about it.

[Forty Drinks]

Soi 7 8 9 is bad as ever.

Lots of CUTE plump old dark skin girls. Same old same ole.

[Forty Drinks]

Not sure how I keep batting 1000 on Thai Friendly and others are not. I guess it is like I said. I understand it is a numbers game, while others are getting set on 1 chick and frustrated when it falls through. This chick has been pestering me to see her but I have not had time. She started sending freak pics and vids of herself today, and it made me cave in. Made a deal for 1000 later on tonight.

Many have Standards. 1 k says it all.

Trust me Folks. 1 k is like shopping at Salvation Army. NOthIng wrong with that. Diff folks for diff strokes.