Pattaya Reports

[Crocodilexp]

When I visited Thailand in 2015 I spent most of my time in Nataree. For me they had a great number of young beautiful girls, more than any other establishment. Many of their customers were well off Thai and other Asians, I hardly saw farang when I went there.

Yes, and unfortunately, Nataree has been raided and permanently closed for a few years now.

(Sorry for being off-topic on the Pattaya thread).

[Beno69]

Our only solution is to sacrifice the 4 Billion people in the world who live hand to mouth and have no savings. It is totally worth them losing everything and committing suicide to protect 500 million people who are over the age of 65 and have a poor immune system and are at risk of dying a few months early from COVID-19.

.....The much better solution is to let the 4 billion poor people on the planet just die. Let millions of small businesses go under so the whole world is controlled by large conglomerates.

....People would much rather wear a mask and wait patiently for their miracle vaccine.

I hope it's ironic!

[Master Monger]

Comment from thaivisa.

The party is truly over for anyone involved in the tourism sector. And for the foreseeable.

If you are a foreigner with a business in tourism, you should have cut your losses and ran already.

Worse to come too, travelling to these areas will become more dangerous with more scams, gouging, crime rates will rise exponentially against foreigners, envy and jealousy of people with money will kick in and things will get nasty.

Our only solution is to sacrifice the 4 Billion people in the world who live hand to mouth and have no savings. It is totally worth them losing everything and committing suicide to protect 500 million people who are over the age of 65 and have a poor immune system and are at risk of dying a few months early from COVID-19.

I couldn't agree with you more, if you cut your finger, you should cut off your whole arm to stave off the infection. The dumbest thing we could do is let everything go back to normal and let survival of the fittest make its natural selection. That is just impossible! The much better solution is to let the 4 billion poor people on the planet just die. Let millions of small businesses go under so the whole world is controlled by large conglomerates.

Those elderly people are our Grandma's and Grandpa's we can't let them die a couple months early for the greater good. Although you shouldn't lose hope Berrys66 because a vaccine is coming for those of us who can afford it! We will be saved like the rapture! I mean people could just get off their lazy asses and stop stuffing their fat faces junk food and actually improve their health and immune systems, but that is way too much to ask. People would much rather wear a mask and wait patiently for their miracle vaccine.

If you are afraid to live, because you are afraid of dying, then you are already dead.

MM.

[Berrys66]

Comment from thaivisa.

Mr Meeseeks.

I was in Pattaya yesterday and the beach was empty. It looked pristine.

Businesses gone everywhere; boarded up, shut down, for sale and rent, gutted out, entire blocks fenced off.

The odd foreigner wandering about, but it was like a ghost town.

The party is truly over for anyone involved in the tourism sector. And for the foreseeable.

If you are a foreigner with a business in tourism, you should have cut your losses and ran already.

Worse to come too, travelling to these areas will become more dangerous with more scams, gouging, crime rates will rise exponentially against foreigners, envy and jealousy of people with money will kick in and things will get nasty.

Those that were prudent and squirreled away money for a rainy day may get through this.

Spendthrifts and money-wasters that live hand to mouth are in trouble.

[Turgid]

Honestly, I'm not seeing any amazing looking girls on FFF. Virtually ALL the pictures are heavily processed (apps make this easy these days), and in many you can't even see their faces. It's not entirely fair to compare them with sex workers we see in real life.

So far, I've taken 3-4 FFF girls, and they looked ok, but just on par with ThaiFriendly (or even a bit worse), not exactly the cream of the crop. The process is a bit too cumbersome for me, though, not really appealing. I don't care to throw out a bunch of messages and wait several hours to meet up with whoever would take me.

When I visited Thailand in 2015 I spent most of my time in Nataree. For me they had a great number of young beautiful girls, more than any other establishment. Many of their customers were well off Thai and other Asians, I hardly saw farang when I went there.

[Crocodilexp]

If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.

Honestly, I'm not seeing any amazing looking girls on FFF. Virtually ALL the pictures are heavily processed (apps make this easy these days), and in many you can't even see their faces. It's not entirely fair to compare them with sex workers we see in real life.

So far, I've taken 3-4 FFF girls, and they looked ok, but just on par with ThaiFriendly (or even a bit worse), not exactly the cream of the crop. The process is a bit too cumbersome for me, though, not really appealing. I don't care to throw out a bunch of messages and wait several hours to meet up with whoever would take me.

[Banana Boi]

If you can speak Thai you can easily find the spas and the model and sideliner websites. They're not hidden.

It's not a matter of IF I can find other alternative sites rather I don't look. If someone posts a site on here I may check it out but I don't Google looking for other sites. There are many other English sites especially a very well known big one for Pattaya that I barely read and that site has way more real reviews and expats than this site which is mainly tourists who either never have been to Thailand and pretend to have been or go to Thailand once or twice a year and think they know it all.

[Paolo99]

You might also learn what Thai people think of foreigners if you listen closely enough.

Be respectfull and behave well and they'll be respectfull with foreigners also.

When you see some foreigners collecting plastic bottles in garbage for years in Pattaya it doesn't surprise me when some Thais put most foreigners in the same category you stated in your earlier post: the falang ki nok.

[Rick Rock]

Yep. If you plan on being in Thailand often or for an extended period, learn to speak Thai. It impresses the sh1t out of girls and it's very funny listening to Thai girls bad mouth their Farang customers in Thai right in front of them. I had a ugly short haired girl at Palace say bad things about me in Thai thinking I didn't understand her. I yelled back at her in Thai and she ran away in shame. Also had a Soi 6 girl say stuff to me in Thai. Called over the manager and he chewed her out right in front of me. Also have girls talk in Thai saying I'm cute. I just sit back and smile not letting these girls know I understand them.

You might also learn what Thai people think of foreigners if you listen closely enough.

[Rick Rock]

Can you name some of the spas that are mostly for Thais? Which sites are these? I can speak Thai so I can get in to many places that other Farang are unable to get in to.

If you can speak Thai you can easily find the spas and the model and sideliner websites. They're not hidden.

[Rick Rock]

Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?

What hassle? Even the ones who work in Pattaya for 10 years can barely put together a sentence in English.

The fact is most people in Thailand do not like foreigners. Especially farang ki nok.

Another is that many women who work with Thais make more money. Yes you've read that right.

It seems a lot of western people really have no idea what goes on outside of their holiday beach resorts. There is wealth in Southeast Asia that could make your head spin around on your shoulders.

[Banana Boi]

Alcohol? Shit I see all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris that roll through Pattaya from Bangkok on the weekends. And they cost twice as much in Thailand as they do in other places due to import taxes.

Why I never bought a car in Thailand. Two years ago I wanted a simple BMW 3 Series but it was well over 3 million baht (100k+ USD). This wasn't even a M Series! Crazy. I heard import taxes have gone up even more since then. I was considering importing a used car from Hong Kong or Malaysia but Thailand nuked the ability for me to do that with a ban of importing cars. Car choices are very limited in Thailand. I can't even get most of the cars I would consider as a proper option. Sorry I'm just not a Camry or Civic type of guy.

[Rocko20]

If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.

Every country has women who would never date or marry foreigners, including western countries. But the notion that the "girls are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" is not true.

Many of the women in those Thai catered places in Pattaya (disco called Bone), still work in go-gos catered to foreign men or tourists and still date and hook with foreign men or tourists. Money is still money. Go to Sensations or Whatsup ago-go, some are are beautiful Thai women (who look Chinese or Korean) that either charge premium, don't do bar fines, or women you will never ever see in insomnia or any foreign disco, but they still work in a foreign go-go venue.

You don't move to Pattaya from Udon Thani or Isaan to avoid foreigners, you move there to make money. And these "no date falang" women do work at foreign venues (go-gos). They just don't hangout at foreign venues (discos).

[Mr Enternational]

Don't assume all Thai men are poor. Lots of dirty money floating around. You should see the alcohol that these Thai guys consume.

Alcohol? Shit I see all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris that roll through Pattaya from Bangkok on the weekends. And they cost twice as much in Thailand as they do in other places due to import taxes.

[Goatscrot]

Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?

Fin Fin is a freelance site. So, not a place. As other posters have stated, some feel more comfortable with Thai men and want to avoid the stigma of going with foreign guys.