Pattaya Reports

[MongerForSex]

I get your point, but that depends on the environment of your pickup. Walking up to a street hooker and propositioning her for sex and negotiating the rate is exactly that, a negotiation. Street meat is usually up to 5's and 6's if anything anyway.

Trying to pull that approach on an 8, 9 or 10 in Thermae, Freelance clubs and Gogo's is a recipe for failure. You'll probably get shutdown more times than you can count. In these type of establishments jumping straight to negotiations without some form of rapport building and encouraging the girl that you're someone that she'll actually have a good time with, will lead to failure or a costly affair or terrible performance especially with the top girls. It's actually very logical, the hottest girls get the most enquiries from punters willing to pay their rate. Don't you think that they are also selective as to who they go with?

Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. There has to be some element for consistently pulling top girls, and that element is your Game.

There are also brothels in Brazil, I always build rapport when I fuck hooker but I still have to pay so I call it negotiation, pay for service or pay for play like Mr E said. To me, it's not game. As a medical professional, my clients build rapport but I still expect them to pay me. When you have a better rapport with your doctor, he treats you better like in every business (restaurant, hotel etc), the same happens to hooker, if your rapport is better, the hooker treats you better.

[Mr Enternational]

Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. There has to be some element for consistently pulling top girls, and that element is your Game.

Buying a car is a purely negotiation based industry, yet you do not see everyone driving around in a Mercedes or Lexus. Just like P4P, if you walk in the door with enough money, anyone can get one. The problem is that you assume everyone wants one. Bill Gates is one of the richest men in the world, yet he drives around in a Toyota Prius or Ford pickup truck or something. Maybe he doesn't have enough game for them to sell him one of the luxury cars.

It is PAY for play, not game for play. Again, there is no need to weasel (or game) someone into YOU PAYING for their goods or services. That sounds ridiculous.

[Siamsin]

I call it negotiation, when I fuck a hooker, I negociate the service. If you are good at negotiation, you pay less for better service. Game is used when you fuck a girl expecting nothing from you but just fun and pleasure.

I fuck regular girls and professional girls, there is a big difference between negotiation and game.

I get your point, but that depends on the environment of your pickup. Walking up to a street hooker and propositioning her for sex and negotiating the rate is exactly that, a negotiation. Street meat is usually up to 5's and 6's if anything anyway.

Trying to pull that approach on an 8, 9 or 10 in Thermae, Freelance clubs and Gogo's is a recipe for failure. You'll probably get shutdown more times than you can count. In these type of establishments jumping straight to negotiations without some form of rapport building and encouraging the girl that you're someone that she'll actually have a good time with, will lead to failure or a costly affair or terrible performance especially with the top girls. It's actually very logical, the hottest girls get the most enquiries from punters willing to pay their rate. Don't you think that they are also selective as to who they go with?

Like it has already been mentioned, if it was a purely negotiation based industry, everyone would be walking around with 8's, 9's and 10's. There has to be some element for consistently pulling top girls, and that element is your Game.

[MongerForSex]

Exactly my point Tooms, agree 100%.

I call it negotiation, when I fuck a hooker, I negociate the service. If you are good at negotiation, you pay less for better service. Game is used when you fuck a girl expecting nothing from you but just fun and pleasure.

I fuck regular girls and professional girls, there is a big difference between negotiation and game.

[Siamsin]

Every single 1 of us has and uses some sort of game whether we know it or not. It's not just what you say to women, but everything about you, before you even say a word. Your demeanor, body language, attire, build, hygiene, multilingualism ability, scent, aura, approach etc.

Funny thing about game in the P4P world is we all employ it one way or another without thinking about it too much. In fact, it is directly or indirectly the SUBJECT of most questions and answers about the P4P scene on these boards:

If you refuse to Pay Upfront, that's game.

If you show up at clubs when they are closing on the assumption the girls left over will be more needy, that's game.

If you show up at places like Thermae in Bkk on the 31st of the month, the night before rent is due and you are especially fond of doing it on rainy nights, that's game.

If you walk into a club smiling when in fact you really aren't thinking of anything particularly humorous, that's game.

If you choose an apartment or hotel offering anything more than the most basic requirements for Shit, Shower, Sleep and Sex on the premise that something nicer will impress the ladies or make them feel more comfortable, that's game.

If you so much as crack a joke or try to create a "fun" environment with your targeted girl before hitting her up for a ST, that is not only game it is also courting and kowtowing to the girl.

And on and on.

Actually, if you are every bit as satisfied having sex with 2's vs 10's and if you are every bit as satisfied with covered FS only vs DFK+DATY+BBBJ+BBFS+CIP, then you might as well approach every 2 in the city, counter offer demonstrably less than her initial quote (if any), negotiate nothing else, simply say "Let's go", go-with-the-flow and accept whatever result you get with a smile, you will not only win by your standards a good 99.99% of the time but you will have done so while avoiding as much game as it is possible to avoid, I suppose.

Exactly my point Tooms, agree 100%.

[PedroMorales]

places like Thermae
If you so much as crack a joke or try to create a "fun" environment with your targeted girl before hitting her up for a ST, that is not only game it is also courting and kowtowing to the girl.

And on and on..

Once in Thermae, I overheard guys approach a stunner, each of them telling the same lame jokes I had also used. The best part was the music. Magge Mae by Rod Stewart, about an aging hooker who breaks a young guy's heart and drains his bank balance. But he loves her anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD_6KqP7K0g

[EihTooms]

... Game does not matter as much either. Having "game" in the P4P world is laughable. Go to a club in Los Angeles and pick up an 8+ for free, and you have game. Then again, even a squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
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Funny thing about game in the P4P world is we all employ it one way or another without thinking about it too much. In fact, it is directly or indirectly the SUBJECT of most questions and answers about the P4P scene on these boards:

If you refuse to Pay Upfront, that's game.

If you show up at clubs when they are closing on the assumption the girls left over will be more needy, that's game.

If you show up at places like Thermae in Bkk on the 31st of the month, the night before rent is due and you are especially fond of doing it on rainy nights, that's game.

If you walk into a club smiling when in fact you really aren't thinking of anything particularly humorous, that's game.

If you choose an apartment or hotel offering anything more than the most basic requirements for Shit, Shower, Sleep and Sex on the premise that something nicer will impress the ladies or make them feel more comfortable, that's game.

If you so much as crack a joke or try to create a "fun" environment with your targeted girl before hitting her up for a ST, that is not only game it is also courting and kowtowing to the girl.

And on and on.

Actually, if you are every bit as satisfied having sex with 2's vs 10's and if you are every bit as satisfied with covered FS only vs DFK+DATY+BBBJ+BBFS+CIP, then you might as well approach every 2 in the city, counter offer demonstrably less than her initial quote (if any), negotiate nothing else, simply say "Let's go", go-with-the-flow and accept whatever result you get with a smile, you will not only win by your standards a good 99.99% of the time but you will have done so while avoiding as much game as it is possible to avoid, I suppose.

[Franciscass]

I am more willing to meet with him along with the two nuns he "supposedly" handed the $5000 cash to.

No doubt MP roamed around the go go's and had some success but equally true is the reality that he was a fantasist that makes Walter Mitty look like a novice. But so what. He was quite entertaining to read unlike some of the current crop of third person long winded dreamers.

[Dg8787]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure when Dg would set up a meeting with him that he has some bullshit explanation as to why the orphanage in AC didn't get his donation LOL.

I am more willing to meet with him along with the two nuns he "supposedly" handed the $5000 cash to.

[Goferring]

Thanks for your reports Goferring. Nice to read some actual reviews. In 3 years I've seen 2 good looking girls at Billabong and they were there on the same night. Make sure you hit Kink agogo in LK Metro. Prettier girls downstairs. Skanky dirty but imo not so pretty ones upstairs. Champagne has the most girls in LK Metro.

1400 from DMK is pretty good. I may need to try that company.

If you want some breakfast recommendations nearby pm me. We don't need a food discussion on a sex board.

Thanks. I enjoyed LK Metro and no doubt will return. I noticed one looker at Billbong when I first arrived and another when I was sitting at Kilkennys later having a meal. There was a couple more scattered amongst the other Beer Bars in the street.

By looker I mean over 5'3", slim and sub-25. You say "skanky" like it's a bad thing. LOL.

I was happy wih the taxi. I think there are a heap of web sites used by the same parent company. If you google "Taxi Don Muang to Pattaya" then you will find a number of sites with the same cars, prices, info and booking format.

Check your PMs.

Cheers. G.

[Mogwai]

Monkey Paw was a bullshitter. At least in the Angeles City forum. MP stated he gave US $5,000 to an AC orphanage. A friend of mine knows the orphanage and asked, no such donation. 5 k would have been noticeable and fed a lot of mouths there.

If you met MP you would know nothing upsets him.
He's open to meet any doubters about who he is or what he does.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure when Dg would set up a meeting with him that he has some bullshit explanation as to why the orphanage in AC didn't get his donation LOL.

[Banana Boi]

He got very upset when some members said he couldn't be getting any girly action if he was sitting in his hotel room for 8 hours a day typing out his weighty tomes. I think someone even said he was miserable loner. LOL

If you met MP you would know nothing upsets him.

He's open to meet any doubters about who he is or what he does.

I don't agree with some things MP says or does but I do have mega respect for the ONLY guy in Pattaya who actually knows more Walking Street gogo girls than I do.

[Banana Boi]

Thanks for your reports Goferring. Nice to read some actual reviews. In 3 years I've seen 2 good looking girls at Billabong and they were there on the same night. Make sure you hit Kink agogo in LK Metro. Prettier girls downstairs. Skanky dirty but imo not so pretty ones upstairs. Champagne has the most girls in LK Metro.

1400 from DMK is pretty good. I may need to try that company.

If you want some breakfast recommendations nearby pm me. We don't need a food discussion on a sex board.

[Dg8787]

He got very upset when some members said he couldn't be getting any girly action if he was sitting in his hotel room for 8 hours a day typing out his weighty tomes. I think someone even said he was miserable loner. LOL

Monkey Paw was a bullshitter. At least in the Angeles City forum. MP stated he gave US $5,000 to an AC orphanage. A friend of mine knows the orphanage and asked, no such donation. 5 k would have been noticeable and fed a lot of mouths there.

[Engine Driver]

Talking about game, does anybody know what happened to MonkeyPaw? He hasn't posted anything for a couple of months now. Or are you the 'reincarnation' of MonkeyPaw Siamsin?

He got very upset when some members said he couldn't be getting any girly action if he was sitting in his hotel room for 8 hours a day typing out his weighty tomes. I think someone even said he was miserable loner. LOL