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  1. #31088

    Hard for them to adapt overseas a lot of the time

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    FL, as Mr. E mentioned 0% chance Secret was going to Korea to work on a vegetable farm. Seoul and Busan are two prime hot spots where Thai girls go work. I know close to 50 gogo, Soi 6, Thermae, and massage girls who have gone to work in Korea since I have met them. Some end up in jail, some can't cut it in Korea because they don't have the right look, and some just miss Thai food and their Thai boyfriend and come home.

    How many FKK girls end up falling in love and living with a stereotypical FKK customer? They're not leaving their Romanian boyfriends to go with a 60+ year old Farang unless he has millions and is willing to freely share it.
    Banana Boi stated it right that many just can't adapt to life in Korea or Japan and come home pretty quickly after a short tour of duty. Not getting used to the food seems to be a genuine issue. Took a ridiculously hot Thai girl to Japan once and by the second day she was driving me crazy as she had to eat Thai food and was just picking away and looking at fantastic Japanese food like it was a pile of dog crap.

    However I know one particular girl from Baccara Pattaya (one of the most popular ones there), that has stayed in Japan for close to a year now and looks like she has made some genuine real coin during her stint there. I would honestly say that she represents the 10% to 20% who succeed. The rest come back with less money than they started with.

  2. #31087
    Quote Originally Posted by DioRetz  [View Original Post]

    Would I pay her debts if I had been Hawk. Yes, if I really liked her and the debt was still in reasonable comparison to my money. But I would have her write an IOU for the same amount. As stated before that is not a likely situation as I like a lot of girls that are sex workers but I have never met one that could hold my attention in a conversation for much more than half an hour. In my mind there is a strong foreboding that this is not going to end well for a nice girl. Then her only option is becoming a hardened BG and probably failing at that too.
    You got it exactly right Dio. I am glad I am getting through to someone here! Thank you for your comments.

  3. #31086
    Quote Originally Posted by DiffPiddy  [View Original Post]
    Tried to read the forum but there seems to be way too many debates going on about other stuff.

    Lived in BKK for a few months now and love going to Nana plaza to stare at all the titties and occasionally take some hottie for a ST at the nearest hotel, while the missus is at home watching Netflix.

    We're taking our first trip up to Pattaya. How is business these days? Has Covid shut most things off or are we all back to normal now?

    Was looking to take a trip down to either Honey 2 or Sabai Dee, any recommendations on which one is best?

    Also looking for any recommendations for gogos on or near walking street during the week as we'll be heading back to BKK before Friday.

    What's the deal with the ST hotels there? Can obviously bring anyone back to me hotel room.

    Cheers lads.
    It doesn't make much sense to go from Bangkok to Pattaya for a massage parlour because there are more and better ones in Bangkok. The best gogos in Pattaya have reopened now, with Pin-up being the top one.

    You lost coherence with the hotel question. Please try again.

  4. #31085

    Bob Unmasked

    "Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUy2Wx_r0_w

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    But even a hint of playing games I would dump them in a heartbeat.

  5. #31084

    First timer in Pattaya

    Tried to read the forum but there seems to be way too many debates going on about other stuff.

    Lived in BKK for a few months now and love going to Nana plaza to stare at all the titties and occasionally take some hottie for a ST at the nearest hotel, while the missus is at home watching Netflix.

    We're taking our first trip up to Pattaya. How is business these days? Has Covid shut most things off or are we all back to normal now?

    Was looking to take a trip down to either Honey 2 or Sabai Dee, any recommendations on which one is best?

    Also looking for any recommendations for gogos on or near walking street during the week as we'll be heading back to BKK before Friday.

    What's the deal with the ST hotels there? Can obviously bring anyone back to me hotel room.

    Cheers lads.

  6. #31083
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    ..................How many FKK girls end up falling in love and living with a stereotypical FKK customer? They're not leaving their Romanian boyfriends to go with a 60+ year old Farang............
    Not many 60+ year old mongers want to marry an FKK girl either.

  7. #31082
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    Do not fall in love with a hooker. Hookers rarely make good companions for a resort trip unlike a GF. With wall to wall girls in Thailand just offer money to a girl to go with you or just go by yourself and there are plenty of girls in Phuket. Too many westerners are fooled by Asian bargirls. Just because they look and act innocent does not mean their brain is not scheming like any other girl all over the world.

    It is more likely she is playing ten others the same game.
    You need to remember his first posts about that girl to understand why he kept seeing her and finally (maybe) fell in love with her. And once emotions get involved, logical thinking doesn't prevail and guys won't listen when you tell them to not fall in love with a hooker.

    Not all of these girls are good at getting sponsors, some of them doesn't have any and aren't doing anything in order to get one.

  8. #31081

    Another point of view: the girl's pov

    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    What do I do? What CAN I do? What should I do? I think I know what many of you would do!
    Well, for anyone who doesn't believe the story about South Korea, I could ask "Under what stone did you lie the last 30 years or so". There has been a mass transfer of labour around the world. With North Koreans working virtually anywhere to supply for the Missile program. But that's another story. Thais too work abroad, e. G. In Sweden! Only lately I saw a documentary showing their bad circumstances. Some years they do well, picking cherries in the forests. Some years they do not so well. If you enter in a bad year than you might not even be able to pay the trip to and from Sweden with your earnings. So, you actually lose money!

    So is it possible in South Korea? The net is your friend. Just translate "vegetable farm in South Korea" to Thai and search the net. This site comes up and it has a combined address with Latin and Thai characters, so it is coded. Otherwise simply repeat my steps. It is not so difficult.

    https://anriintern.com/%E0%B8%9B%E0%...8%94%E0%B9%89/

    I am a bit flabbergasted at some comments here that state Secret is the real BG. Or that FL Hawk is just making things up. If you look at it from the point of view of Secret the story totally makes sense. And Bravo for Hawk to stay so objective about his own story. What I do see is a girl in financial need and desperate to hold on to her farm. If you have studied this phenomenon to some depth than you know that there is a big difference between farmers that do have land of their own and those that have not. The latter become very poor with very few opportunities. They most often have to beg for work. So to me it seems Secret is struggling to hold on to her farm. She has several options. One of them is going to Pattaya and trying to earn enough money. Another is opting for a rich foreigner. She chooses the one she likes best. But she just works down her options and if she reports hardship without Hawk offering money she needs to look for another way. Her next option is to work abroad and has chosen South Korea. I wonder whether that works out fine. South Koreans are quite OK but not filantropists. With Covid-19 coming up she might just be in the wrong time of the year. Then she might lose her farm and be doomed to extreme poverty.

    So, is Secret a desperate girl at the verge of collapse. Yes, very likely. Is she hedging her bets with Hawk being one one of those? Yes, most certainly. Is she still a decent girl and not outright asking for money? Well, probably. A westerner might have liked her to be more forthcoming about her intentions: saving the farm.

    Would I pay her debts if I had been Hawk. Yes, if I really liked her and the debt was still in reasonable comparison to my money. But I would have her write an IOU for the same amount. As stated before that is not a likely situation as I like a lot of girls that are sex workers but I have never met one that could hold my attention in a conversation for much more than half an hour. In my mind there is a strong foreboding that this is not going to end well for a nice girl. Then her only option is becoming a hardened BG and probably failing at that too.

  9. #31080

    European with Thai girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    From my experience the working girls who seem most susceptible to falling in love with a customer are European girls. Many are good conversationalists and are quite willing to spend a lot of time chatting with you and not wanting to rush into the room.
    I know of a Belgian Jew who fell for a Thai woman. He was the owner of a well established shipping company based in Hong Kong. When he died he left all his assets worth few hundred million dollars to the Thai lady and her two daughters.

  10. #31079
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Seriously? She is about to go vegetable farming in the winter in South Korea? I have heard of chicks going there to work in massage parlors and chicks going there to be hookers, but never vegetable farming. What you describe is a chick that is about to get tricked into sex slavery. Never heard it from the vegetable farm angle though.
    Another new metaphor 'work in vegetable farm' - kind of descriptive actually. Work in big cucumber farm, trying to collect as many as she can every day.

    Kind of comparable to what riends of mine used say, to go play golf for long weekends in pattaya from cold winter of Beijing. Some wives actually believed for a while.

  11. #31078
    Quote Originally Posted by FL Hawk  [View Original Post]
    She was preparing to go to South Korea (SK)! She was going to make big money working on a vegetable farm for two years
    FL, as Mr. E mentioned 0% chance Secret was going to Korea to work on a vegetable farm. Seoul and Busan are two prime hot spots where Thai girls go work. I know close to 50 gogo, Soi 6, Thermae, and massage girls who have gone to work in Korea since I have met them. Some end up in jail, some can't cut it in Korea because they don't have the right look, and some just miss Thai food and their Thai boyfriend and come home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    From my experience the working girls who seem most susceptible to falling in love with a customer are European girls.
    How many FKK girls end up falling in love and living with a stereotypical FKK customer? They're not leaving their Romanian boyfriends to go with a 60+ year old Farang unless he has millions and is willing to freely share it.

  12. #31077
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammon  [View Original Post]
    Too many westerners are fooled by Asian bargirls. Just because they look and act innocent does not mean their brain is not scheming like any other girl all over the world.
    Maybe hookers can change their spots. A hooker that I mess with just posted yesterday that she got her ceritfication to do nails. And this chick has been to jail for prostitution in like 5 different countries and is only 25. I can admit that she really is a sweet girl. Total GFE. And I pay her way less than she gets at that damn gogo.
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  13. #31076

    Working Girl's Love

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    From my experience the working girls who seem most susceptible to falling in love with a customer are European girls. Many are good conversationalists and are quite willing to spend a lot of time chatting with you and not wanting to rush into the room.
    I had the misfortune of finding 2 ladies waiting for me when I moved to Pattaya after retiring. Somehow both thought I was going to set up house with them. One was a BabyDolls spinner I knew for 4 years. The other a freelancer from Si Racha who I had meet with her sister on my first trip 5 years earlier. I've often thought about what signal I might have given them but can't come up with anything. It wasn't fun bursting their fantasies.

  14. #31075
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]

    So, I have just been blindsided. Do I believe her? Is this a scam she is pulling to get my money by making me feel sorry for her? Was she really leaving Thailand and her family to go work on a vegetable farm? What do I do? What CAN I do? What should I do? I think I know what many of you would do! The question now is, what DID I do? And do I now have regrets? And, of course, what did SHE do? Did she run off to SK and that was the last we have seen of each other, or was she sent home due the virus and she contacted me and wants to get back together?
    Long winded report.

    Classic case of playing your brain. Promising but not providing. She has used every trick in the book to make you bite to offer her money. She has decided long time ago nothing with you to Phuket. Rest of the drama is to get money. When you did not bite last resort was going to South Korea ostensibly for a job which I think is fake.

    Do not fall in love with a hooker. Hookers rarely make good companions for a resort trip unlike a GF. With wall to wall girls in Thailand just offer money to a girl to go with you or just go by yourself and there are plenty of girls in Phuket. Too many westerners are fooled by Asian bargirls. Just because they look and act innocent does not mean their brain is not scheming like any other girl all over the world.

    It is more likely she is playing ten others the same game.

    Yes, I have chatted and made friends with normal girls in Thailand and taken them to Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam. They do not need visas to go to those countries. But even a hint of playing games I would dump them in a heartbeat.

  15. #31074
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    Was she really leaving Thailand and her family to go work on a vegetable farm?
    'No offense intended, but you must be joking. So, this is the big decision you have been leading up to for god knows how long. You know, FL, I knew your story was BS when you did not tell it all in the first post. What a lot if endless dribble.

    But getting down to cases: no Thai bar girl goes to Korea to work in the fields. That's hard-physical labor, in case you didn't know, and field hands are paid only a pittance. But all this is beside the point. I think you have been putting us on the whole time with a fake story that you made up for you own Corona amusement or maybe you are a fool. I give you credit for not being a fool, but either way, the joke is on you because most of us did not fall for your story from the 1st post on.

    But I am a hopeless romantic at heart, so I hope real love wins in the end and you are now happily long distance engaged to your sweetheart and have transferred all your savings to Thailand so she could buy the family farm in her name. I can't wait to find out what happens next. Not really. 555. But keep going.

    I think I will watch "Mesrine Part 2: Public Enemy #1" tonight. I saw "Mesrine Part 1: Killer Instinct" last night and it was pretty rock on. Now that crazy Frenchman can write!

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