Pattaya Reports

[Lew Ashby]

I took out another ISG member Dcfan about 2 weeks ago. He wanted to see some new places.

But on the way back towards beach road I spotted a nice curvy butt at Soho. Stopped there and talked to the girl. She seemed nice, so I asked DCfan if he wanted to keep cruising or grab another beer. We went in and sat down. He soon grabbed a girl with a round butt and it's on now.

Funny how that works isn't it?! It truly is a crazy crapshoot sometimes, but you just never know what you're going to get! So many options everywhere! Haha.

Glad you guys had a good time.

[MonkeyPaw]

Palace barfine is 1500 long time, dropping to 1000 after midnight. I asked the other night for a friend.

I've always paid 2000 baht for models. Regular coyote dancers 1000ST, 1500 LT, and 1000 after midnight. I didn't know they changed the barfine for models. I've only been back 3 days in Pattaya.

[Banana Boi]

Palace is the best club because they have the most models in number by far. Their drinks are more expensive, barfine is 2000 all night, however they can be the pickiest when it comes to getting barfined.

Palace barfine is 1500 long time, dropping to 1000 after midnight. I asked the other night for a friend.

[Pipe Layer99]

For ST there are girls at beer bars you can find for say 500 bar fine, plus 1000ST, plus another min 500 baht for drinks and to have time to chat and build some kind of rapport. So, a min of 2000ST at a beer bar and about 3000 LT. But quality is all over the map at the beer bars and good looking young ones are slim pickings requiring a heck of a lot of time and work.

2 things. Some of the bars are charging 4 and 500 baht to take a girl out. This was news to me 2 weeks ago on soi 7 and 8. I know some bars are asking that much on Soi Buakhao too.

The other thing, I wouldn't put a price for a minimum of drinks for the girls. Just keep it simple. Feel them out first and see what's up before buying a drink. Don't waste money on a dud who only wants drinks. I have taken girls without buying a drink. On the other hand, if I have a nice girl giving strong signals, of course she can have a drink or 2 or 3. Even then it's less than than 500 baht.

Same thing with the ST / LT. Even with a 500 baht barfine you can get a girl for 2000-2300 (depending on how many drinks you buy her). Just keep it smooth and keep moving.

I have bought girls drinks before even though I knew I wasn't going to take them. If I'm having fun and enjoy their company, sure they can have a few drinks. You might change your mind.

[Mr Enternational]

I took out another ISG member Dcfan about 2 weeks ago. He decided to do her right there for the correct amount of 300, but came back down after seeing the room. I was like, what happened? He said his room was better. That shit was funny.

LOL. That must have been 1 fucked up room. I know that he is not that picky when it comes to that.

[Pipe Layer99]

Have been making my monthly G club visits this week.

Really nothing too special except my favorite girl.

I took out another ISG member Dcfan about 2 weeks ago. He wanted to see some new places. Took him to 3 off the path gentlemen's clubs. We only found 2 that were to our liking. His girl wanted 2 k for ST right there, my girl was in a hurry to go to the room. Both girls were turned away.

Next we rolled though soi 7 and 8. Nothing special for frequent visitors. So the heck with it, we went to soi 6. Made 2 and a half walks up and down the street. Some girls were pulling us in, and at least 2 girls turned their noses up as we looked inside. LOL. We were going to go back and get his girl from soi 8. But on the way back towards beach road I spotted a nice curvy butt at Soho. Stopped there and talked to the girl. She seemed nice, so I asked DCfan if he wanted to keep cruising or grab another beer. We went in and sat down. He soon grabbed a girl with a round butt and it's on now. I was telling my girl that we can go boom boom at my place because it's cleaner. She agreed. Then she 300 baht for the bar and I can go with you (as if I didn't know already). So yes, 300 for take out. Then she wanted to know long time or short time, I said we can talk about that later. Try ST first and if I'm happy, you can stay long time. No money was discussed other than the barfine. I tell Dc I'm taking my girl to MY room. Soon after, DC tells me his girl wants 400 barfine for ST. I said, no it's 300 here or at your place for ST and I'm taking my girl out for just 300 baht. They talk more and she agreed to 300! So you see, his girl was tying to get an extra 100 baht from him! He decided to do her right there for the correct amount of 300, but came back down after seeing the room. I was like, what happened? He said his room was better. That shit was funny. So we all left. It was around 10.30 pm. At the bar our two girls did not ask for a drink either. So it's always better to interview first. Had they asked for a drink after the screening, they would have gotten a drink. But it's not necessary. He ended up taking his girl for 1. 5 hours ST. He had a flight to catch very early so LT was not an option. He reported back that his honey performed very good!

My girl stayed all night. We had a drink at my place and round one. Great session in a nice clean condo. After the shower we just chilled. She obviously wasn't interested in going back to the bar. Another hour or two and we had round number 2. One more round the next day before noon. She asked for 400 baht extra since she didn't go back to the bar last night. No problem. AND I gave her a little extra for LT vs ST (my choice. She didn't ask). Everyone was happy.

She came over again on the 30th for another round. Claims she missed me. LOL. I guess she needed some baht. I was in the mood so why not. Come on over honey.

[Pipe Layer99]

Pirates. Maybe 8 girls. Some of the nice girls have been missing since New Year. Nothing special here. Still have one girl with top gogo quality face but big butt and doesn't seem friendly at all. Saw a Korean guy come in and out of the room with her in under 5 minutes. No lie! I'm assuming that included shower time.

Club 4 or 007 - don't remember which is which. 8 girls. 1 was ok. Bought her a drink. Sat in the sofabed booth. Absolutely useless. What a dud! Why did she call me into the bar if she was going to be such a useless tit? Left halfway into her first drink. I don't have time to waste with useless girls like this.

Did he come out zipping his pants? If not, he probably declined her service.

The girl, from Club 4 or 007, you been here too long, so you should know better. Why buy her a drink with no vibe? I really don't need an answer, it was a rhetorical question. I never buy a girl a drink unless I have some sort of vibe.

[Pipe Layer99]

IMO, nothing is 100 pc this or that in Pattaya (more so than anywhere else). One needs, IMO, to always keep in mind that you are looking at a mix, or a distribution of many types of girls, at all locations. IMO, a lot of the disagreements on this board is posters viewing or seeing things in a polarized way and not as a clear distribution curve.

I don't think you can simply state that one place or any type of girl is this or that (meaning a sure thing for a target objective, whatever that might be for a specific guy) . Some examples from my own observation over many months in Pattaya (but I am far from being any kind of expert so please take it FWIW):

1. There are beach road girls that do come to Insomnia or Ibar (but a lot more to say Lucifer or Red Car). Anyone who thinks that this is not the case is simply misinformed. Girls from massage places, beer bars, go gos, and regular girls (example , working at a hotel or even 7 Eleven) go to the discos (" to enjoy" their terminology) and are open to " going with man" , as they often refer to it.

Now, I don't know what the distribution looks like, but I would guess less than 10 pc (but that's still a lot of girls) are from beach Road. Girls have specifically said they have in the past been at beach Road when they need some money ASAP.

2. Not all girls at even the best go gos are what one would call go go material. As a matter of fact, based on my recent experience (which is very limited to say about 8 diff go gos in WS and LK Metro ), I would say a full 50 pc are VERY average, meaning a 6/6. 5 or below. Some are pretty poor lookers IMO. And yeah, this even applies to Imagine (what's up upper level). Maybe 20pc of a typical top quality go go , IMO, is worth bar fining.

So, yes there is a distribution of 4's, 5's, 6's, 7's, 8's, a few 9's in all go gos.

Most places have a fixed bar fine, some have multiple levels, but still, even in each level not all girls are equivalent.

So, I would suggest not paying a steep bar fine for a 6 in a go go. And certainly don't pay 4 k.

There are 6. 5 's and the occasional 7 even avail at Insomnia for 2 K LT, and, if you are very lucky even a 7 at a beer bar. I was lucky enough in the last 8 days to bar fine four 7's from a beer bar for anywhere from 350-700 and 2 K LT. After a lot of time and work searching. I would suggest smaller beer bars in Jomtien and even Simon complex and others nearby on 2nd RD.

3. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but age is not. IMO! The vast majority of the girls at a G club like Kinnaree are definitely in their 30's. I am not paying for that cause I can get better in that age group in the US, some parts of Europe and in Latin America without a bar fine. Again, age distribution is all over the place at beer bars (so many 40 plus yo) and many go gos with 30 plus (do they need a boob job due to age and gravity).

Been saying the same for awhile. Got tired of trying to tell some folks on here. Plenty of girls spread out everywhere and easy to find. No need to drop 4 k and there is no 'must have' girl. Just go to another place.

[Pipe Layer99]

What I meant by ratio is that when a ratio is heavily in favour of the working girls the clever ones know that they are in high demand. So they will either look for multiple pops or highest dollar for a long time. The odds are not in a punters favour. Happy Hunting.

Why are you concerned what the girl thinks? Talk to her and see if she is giving you a good vibe. If not, it's her loss. Plenty more to choose from. One more thing, the odds are always in your favor. You have the money. They are there looking for work. Think about it.

[Mr Enternational]

moved on to Soi 6 in the Hopped around and settled at Horny Bar. Picked up a girl for 1000ST + 400 for the room.

Went to Devil's Den. Booked 2 girls for the usual 4000. I just wanted a threesome experience.

So why not just choose 2 chicks from the first place? Or 3 for that matter?

[LittleBigMan]

LOL. If these biches looked like models then don't you think they would be models? Might as well splurge even more on one that's like a virgin while you are at it.

Models are made, not born. Just go pick any chick and take her to get her hair and makeup done and buy her a fancy dress and shoes. It ain't hard at all. Don't waste your money being fooled by glitz.

See attached photo. I have done the heavy lifting for you.

My buddy has been here 1 million times. For some reason, this time he got the bright idea to buy a bunch of dresses off amazon and bring them to sell to bar girls. Dude, if they had money then they wouldn't be bar girls! And besides that, haven't you noticed all of these carts riding aound here selling 100 baht dresses? He realizes his error now. For some reason guys can't just come and have fun. They always gotta get bright ideas.

Mr. E.

Thanks for making the example and making my point at the same time Land of Smile = Once you set exit Immigration it is Land of Stupidity, nothing personal to your friend but it happens to the best of us.

[Traveller747]

Went to Devil's Den. Booked 2 girls for the usual 4000.

I just wanted a threesome experience. It was okayish.

I chose Cory and I told her to choose the other one. She chose Wan.

Wan was very good in BBBJ while Cory had nice lemons.

2 shots. It is very mechanical like soapie so WIR? Nope.

Same experience, same conclusion. WIR: Nope.

[LoveGuy01]

Good point. But you have to be clear. In every town, in every city in every country I have been to, some people think that bars / clubs / gogo bars / strip clubs (that don't have a cover charge) are happy with customers who come in and sit down for 2 - 6 hours and just order one drink.

A regular customer is in a different category. Random guys (no matter their race, religion or color) who wander into a bar and don't' buy a drink an hour or barfine a girl are a waste of time and resources for the bar. Unfortunately, Indians have the stereo type of being cheap, so Rocky is going to have to deal with that issue. We all know that there are many girls who have tiered pricing structure, and many of us know that the girls will typically quote Indian guys higher prices. Girls also quote older guys, fat guys, ugly guys higher prices. It is what it is..

I totally agree with you. I am an Indian guy in his late 20's, decent looking, wears mid ranged branded cloths and in shape (mind you l am not athletic but don't have a big belly either). Last time I was in Pattaya I had a budget of 10,000 baht per day only for mongering. I am not like MonkeyPow who can spend millions of dollars in charity but I never faced any discrimination. I never negotiated with the girls in fact I stuck with 10% tip policy to the girls and Mamsan and 100 baht tip to the doorman if I pick a girl from go-go or club. I tipped 1000 baht to the guy managing the VIP section of Ibar and he always hooked me up with the best looking girls in the club at a very decent rate. I personally found it VFM cause the girls I ended up with would have costed at least twice back in India. Once couple of British men walked up to to me in Ibar and confessed they didn't know an Indian could spend so much. I simply smiled and offered them couple of pegs from the bottle and had a good time sharing our experiences.

The end of the story is if you aren't good looking, white skinned or have a Greek God body you can always impress everyone with your heavy wallet. After all you live once.

[MonkeyPaw]

OK. My buddy and I are heading back to Pattaya and I am interested in opinions from member. He and I are going to fork over some extra cash for a model.

What clubs do you associate in your mind to have the most girls that you consider model or close to model quality looks?

Thanks.

The Rock.

Palace is the best club because they have the most models in number by far. Their drinks are more expensive, barfine is 2000 all night, however they can be the pickiest when it comes to getting barfined. They make 16,000 every 10 days off drinking alone. I've seen them hustle guys for tons of drinks only to reject them. If they sit with you and their model friends come around with the tequila shot trays and you don't buy any for them or their friends. Then "Good Luck" at getting them to go with you and having a memorable experience. Best time to catch them is after midnight -2 am. Let the models make their drink quotas first. Take it from me, I've barfined about 9 models from there, they are good at hustling!

[MonkeyPaw]

Monkey, I know the girl with the sunglasses on her head. She is a friend of mine. Former nightwish girl. Name starts with M. She's a nice girl.

She would have been the only one I maybe have considered. But I get scared what's underneath. Rather just pay extra at the GoGos to see their bodies. At least we had fun eating ice cream.