Pattaya Reports

[Member #4698]

I used to get severe leg cramps once in a while. My Doctor recommended drinking Gatorade. He said it was the loss of electrolytes (sodium, potassium and calcium, ect) that causes the problem. So drinking a bottle of Gatorade or Vitaminwater (both of which contain electrolytes) on a regular basis in the evening a few hours before going to bed solved the problem. Knock on wood. I take a quality GNC Men's daily vitamin too, but don't know if that helps or not. It can't hurt.

[Dinghy]

Interesting. I would get a charlie horse in my right ankle after ejaculating on occasional. These posts have made me realize I have not had one in quite a while, possibly because I am taking a vitamin supplement with both Mn and MG?

And how did a muscle spasm become known as a charlie horse?

Don't know about the horse, but leg cramps also result from low potassium levels. 1000 MG / day is good, 2000 is better.

[Crocodilexp]

Than you have to forget to meet Viet girls out of Vietnam. In Macau or Singapore the Viet girls are relatively more expansive than Thailand providers.

There's also KL Malaysia where you can easily have Viets from 80 MYR (600 baht) up. Not going to be great (either looks or service) at the lower end of that range, but there's an occasional diamond in the rough, and even the uglier ones look better than an average Pattaya working girl these days.

[Mua Tur]

I am more frugal then many here. I have to watch how much I spend and look for bargains. Could I visit Macau or Singapore for anywhere close to the same as Bangkok? Or would it be like twice the amount or more? Thanks.

Than you have to forget to meet Viet girls out of Vietnam. In Macau or Singapore the Viet girls are relatively more expansive than Thailand providers.

[SouthEaster]

Why the hell would I go to Macau or Singapore for Vietnamese girls? Maybe there are plenty, but there are plenty more in Vietnam, which is where I'm going.

SE.

[Rick Rock]

I am more frugal then many here. I have to watch how much I spend and look for bargains. Could I visit Macau or Singapore for anywhere close to the same as Bangkok? Or would it be like twice the amount or more? Thanks.

You can get 2500 Baht sex in Bangkok and 30000 Baht sex in Macau.

Or you can get 30000 Baht sex in Bangkok and 2500 Baht sex in Macau.

Depends on what you want.

One of the cheapest place to find Viets in Macau is Hou Va. About 2500 Baht if you let them pick the girl. If you go to a sauna you might spend 10000 Baht or more.

Of course you could go to Vietnam and spend 500 Baht on sex with Vietnamese girls if you learn how to use sites like Thienda.

[Rick Rock]

What I do if a girl has poor attitude (like asking for money in advance) before sex starts, is apologize, say I don't want to proceed with the session since I no longer have the feelz, and give her 100 baht for her trouble on her way out, so she doesn't try to raise a fuss. Makes her think twice before trying on the "pay me in advance" trick with the next customer.

Right on. I do the same.

[Horatio]

I am more frugal then many here. I have to watch how much I spend and look for bargains. Could I visit Macau or Singapore for anywhere close to the same as Bangkok? Or would it be like twice the amount or more? Thanks.

At least you need to visit Macau or Singapore. They are plenty.

[PhilAndererer]

At times although we should keep things simple it is just too simple to some?

As you noted I-Rover just because it has the word Bar it doesn't mean it is a place you can barfine the girls. ! There are a number of places just outside of I-Rover, that serve food and have girls you can BF, they are pretty obvious because there are servers and girls sitting on stools doing nothing but being eye candy. Jibby's, Scooters, Billibong there are about a half dozen of them if not more.

As for I-Rover, the girls are mainly servers of food and I-rovers from what I understand there are girls that will go with you but no during work hours and certainly they aren't going to drop their plate of fries for a customer and go upstairs with you for ST or LT, I know this from regulars I know but never ask or care because I never have seen anything I like, plus I have a rule business is business and pleasure is pleasure that means for me what I eat I don't want anyone messing with it?

A place like I-Rover food watching sports girls talk and certainly they aren't going to go with a customer who stays at the place which is what the original question was about. As you noted you ask and if they do it is going to be off hours and at your place not upstairs at I-rover. It isn't a really Bar as the others!

It's okay to take them upstairs. I stayed there for four days and had two girls working there in my room. I was fascinated by one young girl working there and her Korean eyes; it's my bad that I had her on my last day and I didn't take her number. I know it's stupid to ask these things (I am still a young adult and stupidity is common in this age), but can someone here help me in getting her whereabouts or contact? LOL. Thanks.

[Mua Tur]

I admit I have never had a Viet girl outside Vietnam but I have had some dynamite sessions while there. ............."!
SE.

At least you need to visit Macau or Singapore. They are plenty.

[Tomasb]

I gave her 100 bhat which was more than enough to cover her taxi cost back to Soi 4. I know because that is what I paid the taxi to take us to my apartment. It was a cascading set of things she did that led me to ultimately cancel the session finally culminating in 'you pay me first'.

I don't think a punter needs any excuse to terminate a session if no sex has occurred yet. I've done it on several occasions for reasons no bigger than unpleasant smell (cigarettes are a turnoff for me too), just apologized politely, said I changed my mind, not her fault, and gave them some money for their time (usually 200-300 baht). The amount is perhaps a bit more than I would have if the cancellation was due to bad attitude. Remember, 300 baht is still a daily wage in this country, you need to stand on your feet for 8 h in a 7-11 to earn that much, so 200 baht or so should be more than enough for well under an hour of doing nothing more than getting to your hotel and back.

[Crocodilexp]

Sensing a less than satisfying session, I was looking for an excuse to terminate the deal. When she entered my apartment she also whipped out a cigarette despite clear signs in the lobby forbidding smoking in the apartment building. Then she ducked outside to the porch despite my protestations. A clear sign of disrespect.

I don't think a punter needs any excuse to terminate a session if no sex has occurred yet. I've done it on several occasions for reasons no bigger than unpleasant smell (cigarettes are a turnoff for me too), just apologized politely, said I changed my mind, not her fault, and gave them some money for their time (usually 200-300 baht). The amount is perhaps a bit more than I would have if the cancellation was due to bad attitude. Remember, 300 baht is still a daily wage in this country, you need to stand on your feet for 8 h in a 7-11 to earn that much, so 200 baht or so should be more than enough for well under an hour of doing nothing more than getting to your hotel and back.

[FL Hawk]

Dude, unless you have been on the Thai message Boards since the 90's, you didn't invent that term.

Haha. Before I made that claim, I did a search of the forum and the first use of the phrase was last November by your's truly. Not sure how far the search goes back, but I know it goes back more than 10 years, so at the least I am the first to have used it since the mid to late 2000's. (Note: this is all good natured! At the least, I am happy that people are recognizing the existence of the blues, which I have been describing for a few years.).

[Member #4698]

What I do if a girl has poor attitude (like asking for money in advance) before sex starts, is apologize, say I don't want to proceed with the session since I no longer have the feelz, and give her 100 baht for her trouble on her way out, so she doesn't try to raise a fuss. Makes her think twice before trying on the "pay me in advance" trick with the next customer.

<snip> To be honest, I usually look for two minor signs of bad attitude before calling it off, just in case there's a misunderstanding with the first one.

Crocodilexp, do you remember the 1948 Jules Dassin film noir, "the Naked City"? The film's famous closing line was "There are eight million stories in the naked city; this has been one of them. ".

Well there are 10,000 hookers in Pattaya (or a large number at any rate) and thus 10,000 stories. At one end of the spectrum there are some nice working girls that have been ripped off by an asshole customer. At the other end of the spectrum are bad working girls who want to provide the least service ie do the ripping off. And in between are a whole lot of girls that are up for a good time as long as they get paid in the end.

I agree with your 2 or 3 strikes, you're out policy and I will never pay a SW, FL, or bar girl in advance. Bordellos are another venue and in most you either pay in advance (Thai soapies) or the house keeps a sharp tab on your expenses (Macau and Jakarta saunas). Try stiffing a Macau Sauna and see what happens. 555.

In any case I have had a few, not many, FL's ask for payment in advance once we started getting into things in the room and they turned out to be good girls who had been ripped off in the past and thus had a reason to be cautious.

I remember one Viet gal I took out of the Beach club in KL a couple of years ago. Nice girl and very friendly in the bar. In the room she went along with things, DFK, but as her bra came off, she became hesitant and asked for money. Because I liked her, I went thru the discussion, yada yada, "I am gentleman, you make me happy, I make you happy" bla bla "if you are unhappy with pay later, we can back to Beach Club so you can find another customer and me another girl. " And she agreed to my terms, of course and we showered and got down to it. At first, she was still a little reluctant, but she warmed up alright and the session turned out pretty good. She ended up staying for around 3 hours and we talked and watched tv in bed afterwards. And while we were talking in bed, she told me of the time not long before when a customer had stiffed her. Anyway, I gave her a good tip for the GFE session and we were both happy.

But the bottom line is I am not responsible for what some asshole does with his girls and I won't bear the burden although I know there must be a lot of assholes out there. Another example: I was staying in the Marriot Thonglo Exec apartments Hotel - a nice place. One morning I went down to their little pastry shop to have my morning coffee. Sitting at a table next to mine was a working girl still in her evening dress. She was quietly crying. I smiled at her and asked what's wrong. And she told me her customer had just thrown her out of his room upstairs and not paid her. Now I was not in the room. I don't know if her service was good or bad. But she was not making a fuss or a scene. She was just quietly sobbing and feeling really bad. I felt sorry for her. After she left my waitress came over and asked if the girl had been botherimg me. I said, No, everything is alright. I mention this little story to illustrate that even guys that can afford the Marriott can be assholes. Whoring is not as easy as it may seem to some.

Anyway, I never pay an SW, FL, or bar girl in advance. If they want to walk, let them walk. But I have never had a girl turn me down on my terms and every FL that asked me for money upfront and did not get it, still did me alright in bed. Back to Jules Dassin, "There are eight million stories in the naked city; this has been one of them. ".

[Goferring]

Has anyone ever had a LT freelancer ask for money up front?

It's pretty common with Viet girls in the Four Floors at Singapore.

It's the only place I have paid upfront and surprisingly have never had a bad experience in doing so. I would never recommend it anywhere else due to the risks already mentioned below.