Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I am very much with you on that. My pointing out that there are many, many girls on Soi 6 who most of us on first sight would agree ought to be fine with 700 baht ST and that we probably would never take for more than that anyway,

Recurring theme on ISG: If you don't pay as much as I pay then your girl is inferior and provides poor service.

My brother bagged a free chick from the disco last night. She must have been butt ugly and given him the starfish treatment. Must have been trying to move in and live off him too since he had to put her out at 2 this afternoon when I kept calling him to hit the streets.

[Franciscass]

The ongoing discussion on pricing is interesting.

Some argue that 700 is fine because rather than looking at it as losing 300 she is gaining 700. Problem with that logic it also makes 600 500 400 300 OK and I imagine there are those that think this way.

For me what she accepts when the price starts being negotiated is almost totally dependent on her financial circumstances and her sense of self-esteem and self-worth. Life can be tough for the less desirable girls.

That said I don't find anything amiss with somebody who regularly mongers and finds girls accepting 700. It's a cheap shag for sure but this is Thailand. It is what it is.

[EihTooms]

I have a hard time getting CIM on Soi 6. But I asked the top 6 looking girls on Soi 6 at 3 PM. Top 6 in terms of generally accepted standards. Fairly certain many of the marginal looking girls would have said yes. BUT, I prefer my girls to wear make-up; I like to experience false illusions. Couple said no. Couple said yes to BJ, but no to CIM. One wanted 1500 Baht for CIM and rimming. One said yes at the Pussy Club. I thought she was the youngest and cutest one there. She initially hesitated. That is a bad sign. I should have walked away. Upstairs, her BBBJ was horrible. Then after several minutes, she said, "no more". After I paid her, left pissed off. Didn't want to create a scene if I paid her 700 instead of 1000. Fuck the Pussy Club!

At Soi 6, it seems the first price all the girls ask for is 1000 Baht for short time (for standard stuff). I'm wondering what percentage will accept 700. I just hate to negotiate with girls that will suck my dick, especially for $9 USD.

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I am very much with you on that. My pointing out that there are many, many girls on Soi 6 who most of us on first sight would agree ought to be fine with 700 baht ST and that we probably would never take for more than that anyway, if that much (yes, gents, same as many, many girls in BKK) and then asking those particular questions was also in response to the perhaps saddened poster who wondered why a punter would negotiate such a girl down for the sake of $9.14. The fact is if the "700 baht and no more!" punters didn't take them they likely would almost never get a customer. Therefore, in a very real sense, one should not lament that this or that customer denied that poor girl 300 baht, but rather be glad there was at least someone willing to give them as much as 700 baht today.

It isn't like the top best looking girls on Soi 6 are being brilliantly hard bargained down from 1000 baht to 700 baht and still providing some fantastic sexual session they likely only provided the 1000 baht customers in their dreams. No doubt the vast majority of punters who don't work hard or bother to say anything at all to negotiate their chosen girls down from 1000 baht to 700 baht are not "fools". They've got eyes. They know there are "700 baht negotiable" girls and others, the ones they are likely dealing with instead, who have no reason to accept less than 1000 baht from any guy on this day. And they don't accept it.

[GreenBud]

I'm pretty sure she would have had no problem with me CIM. Might have had a problem with YOU CIM

I have a hard time getting CIM on Soi 6. But I asked the top 6 looking girls on Soi 6 at 3 PM. Top 6 in terms of generally accepted standards. Fairly certain many of the marginal looking girls would have said yes. BUT, I prefer my girls to wear make-up; I like to experience false illusions. Couple said no. Couple said yes to BJ, but no to CIM. One wanted 1500 Baht for CIM and rimming. One said yes at the Pussy Club. I thought she was the youngest and cutest one there. She initially hesitated. That is a bad sign. I should have walked away. Upstairs, her BBBJ was horrible. Then after several minutes, she said, "no more". After I paid her, left pissed off. Didn't want to create a scene if I paid her 700 instead of 1000. Fuck the Pussy Club!

At Soi 6, it seems the first price all the girls ask for is 1000 Baht for short time (for standard stuff). I'm wondering what percentage will accept 700. I just hate to negotiate with girls that will suck my dick, especially for $9 USD.

- Note: For my girl rating scale, I use a Bell curve. For all you non-engineering geeks out there, the shape of the curve is a bell. Most of the girls are average, around a 5. Very few high scores.

- IMO, many of the girls on Soi 6 are on the ugly side. Checked last month and the last 2 days around 3 PM. There are 5's around; only a few 6's; no 7's.

- At WS Tantra go-go, many 6's. I thought Nos. 129, 140, 242, 300, and 304 are 7's. I thought No. 322 is a 7.5. I liked the body of No. 300.

- At Infinity, I thought No. 403 is a 7. IMO, she's about 10 pounds overweight, although many people like the full figure type. I prefer skinny. I slipped a 20 Baht bill in her bikini, and I fondled her breast. She liked it (the money I assumed, LOL), and she gave me a wai. For less than a dollar! That's why I love Pattaya.

[Banana Boi]

Hope your trip goes well. Looking forward to your report, not many reports here on G Clubs.

If you are coming to Pattaya PM me right before you come. There is no use for receiving info a month in advance as lineups change. I go to G clubs often but only post updates on occasion. I'll only provide you with information on the promise you write a timely field report after you go.

If you are looking for top gogo quality girls no need to consider G clubs. Only know of one currently and I'm selfishly keeping her to myself since I hate going to her bar and having to wait for her among the 4s she works with.

Current G club lineups are very poor but I still persevere in hopes of finding those hidden gems. Drinks are dirt cheap and they are indoor so good way to pass some afternoons for me.

[EihTooms]

Have to say this really comes across as an anti-Pattaya comment from a guy who see's Bangkok as King. Simple question to you: How many years have you been living in Bangkok? How many days spent in Pattaya? I'm going to guess the percentage of time spent in Pattaya is around half of a half of a half of a percent. And the opposite is true for Mr E who's spent more time in Pattaya than Bangkok. So its pretty much pointless to keep up this argument unless you move down to Pattaya and Mr E moves up to Bangkok.

Who is arguing? There are also many, many P4P girls in Bangkok whose asking price of 1000 baht could easily be reduced to 700 baht by anyone willing to go there too. Especially if nothing particularly above the most basic sexual fare is mentioned or requested. Happy?

Seems to me some of you guys should have been ticked off by the intimation that EVERY girl on Soi 6 was worth no more than 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT for anything and everything of a sexual nature and they all knew it, which was very much what was being suggested until I asked the right questions and got clarification with no argument involved at all.

You're welcome for that, BTW.

I have been living in Bkk more than 6 years, after spending the same number of years vacationing in Thailand 4-5 weeks a year, most of that time spent in Pattaya. But that was 20-25 years ago. Now I much prefer Bkk.

However, I have gone to Pattaya for 2-3 day trips at least 7-8 times in the past 6 years. I took two such trips there in just the past 4 weeks. The most recent one, two weekends ago, was with a non pro gf from Bkk who had never been there before and had a rare 3-day free weekend from her job. So I took her there for a change in scenery from Bkk.

[XXL]

... My question to fellow board members is do you see the model of whay Soi 6 offers every changing much (I'm not referring to prices going up as they always tend to) I mean in the short time model, buy a drink for her, take her upstairs, pay the room fee and girl and repeat? I hope it never deviates from that as I found it alot of fun and very easy.

Many people including me live in fear of a crack-down on soi 6, like prohibition of short time rooms, or repeated raids causing girls not to work there any more. When that happens my sex-life in Thailand will be at an end.

A more certain danger for expats is probably the attrition caused by the ever worsening THB exchange rate but if price is not an issue for you no need to worry.

If you enjoyed the soi 6 set-up German FKKs might also be your cup of tea.

My problem with soi 6 is my high rejection rate. I'd say 40% of girls reject me. They do so in the Thai way, ie by never making eye-contact. That may be because I skip the drinks part. I never pay drinks. I walk up to the girl and say let's go.

[PaulAlbert]

I just got back from 3 weeks in Pattaya and loved it. Spent all my time at Soi 6 short time with a different girl or two each day, for me it was heaven on earth. I had good luck in Mods Bar, Smoke and Mirrors, SITC, Pussyclub and a few others but those places stood out. My question to fellow board members is do you see the model of whay Soi 6 offers every changing much (I'm not referring to prices going up as they always tend to) I mean in the short time model, buy a drink for her, take her upstairs, pay the room fee and girl and repeat? I hope it never deviates from that as I found it alot of fun and very easy.

[Banana Boi]

Have to say this really comes across as an anti-Pattaya comment from a guy who see's Bangkok as King. Simple question to you: How many years have you been living in Bangkok? How many days spent in Pattaya? I'm going to guess the percentage of time spent in Pattaya is around half of a half of a half of a percent. And the opposite is true for Mr E who's spent more time in Pattaya than Bangkok. So its pretty much pointless to keep up this argument unless you move down to Pattaya and Mr E moves up to Bangkok.

Exactly. The constant daily Pattaya bashing by ET is getting really boring really fast.

[Atom72]

Hello there,

I've been RTFF a while now, and this is the first time for me posting, I will be on my maiden voyage to the LOS tomorrow and will stay for a week. I just wanted to post to thank all of the regular and irregular posters for informing and entertaining me with your reports. I will be posting my adventures when I'm back. My primary hunting grounds will be the clubs and soi 6, and I hope to visit some G-clubs in the little time that I have. You guys have been really helpful, again thanks.

Hope your trip goes well. Looking forward to your report, not many reports here on G Clubs.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

When you pay 700 baht to the girl on Soi 6, do you get the full hour or is it once you come, time is over?

[Breadman]

My interest in shopping for P4P on Soi 6 began to sour 2-3 years ago when I spent an afternoon and evening there interacting with the half dozen or so "ok" looking girls I could find in various bars and not one of them agreed to give me a BBBJ+CIM for any amount of money. I mean, we never even got to the "How much?" part since the "NO" part of it was so absolute. LOL.

So I must be a prime candidate to learn more from you about Soi 6 Economics and the Art of Hooker Negotiation.

Mind you, I definitely saw many, many girls working on that Soi and in those bars of whom most of the punters reading this thread would agree hands down should not charging more than 700 baht if they expect to get more than 1 roaring drunk customer per week. But there are always a handful of girls who most of us would say look like they could expect 1000 baht and not budge from it. Based on their looks alone, that is.

So for further clarification; are you saying you have never gotten a refusal of your 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT offer from any and every girl you have ever propositioned on Soi 6? And are you also saying you just as frequently hit on Soi 6 girls who most punters with Thai mongering experience would rate as among the top 10% best lookers on Soi 6 as the ones most of us would not be surprised would be highly flexible in what they would accept and not reject?

Have to say this really comes across as an anti-Pattaya comment from a guy who see's Bangkok as King. Simple question to you: How many years have you been living in Bangkok? How many days spent in Pattaya? I'm going to guess the percentage of time spent in Pattaya is around half of a half of a half of a percent. And the opposite is true for Mr E who's spent more time in Pattaya than Bangkok. So its pretty much pointless to keep up this argument unless you move down to Pattaya and Mr E moves up to Bangkok.

[Mr Enternational]

A buddy just moved into a new (to him) house off Khao Talo so I went to check him out today. We were shooting the shit and throwing around stories. He said this one chick that routinely comes over was over and asked him for 5000 baht. He thought she had lost her mind. He said there is no way I am giving you 5000 baht. Then he said that she said something she really did not mean to say. Why you not stupid farang?

He also said that he had taken his car to the dealership and met a foreign guy while there that had bought his chick a motorbike, car, and a condo. He said the guy said the chick was not a bargirl. He also said that the girl would not let him drive either of the vehicles telling him that there is some law that if he is in an accident then it is automatically the foreigners fault. My buddy said the girl walked out when the car was ready and she definitely looked the part of a bargirl. He yelled out telling the guy that he should be the one driving and the girl said absolutely not!

So his new landlord is a rich 46 year old chick. She drives a black Mercedes. He was telling me that she fixed up her guest house for her German boyfriend and before he could finish I said let me guess, the guy never showed up. He said yep. I said well hook me up with her. He said fuck that. With your track record you will fool around and get her upset about something and she will go up on my rent!

[Mr Enternational]

Thanks for responding in a constructive way. I would only ask that you consider the following. How long have you been paying 700? Has not Thailand experienced cost of living increases in that time?

Why do you say that? Because you are paying more for bar girls? You are paying more for alcohol and cigarettes because the government went up on the taxes? If there has been a cost of living increase then nobody has told my landlord about it (and that is where it counts). I have been paying the same 4500 baht per month for almost the last 9 years. Let's see if anything changes in February when I sign a new contract.

I have also been paying the same 900 baht plus 60 baht tolls to get from the airport to Pattaya for as long as I can remember. So the taxi driver is not seeing it either. But I think the place that I eat breakfast has gone from 79 baht to 84 baht for the American breakfast: eggs, bacon, toast, juice, coffee or tea. So if we take that 5 baht difference and factor it into the 700 baht for a Soi 6 girl, then maybe she should be getting 40 baht more. 740 baht, which she did actually get if you add in the lady drink that I bought her!

Then since Thai girls are like a box of chocolates you never know what you will get top her up to her asking price or more after the fact with a tip depending on the experience.

Why insist on giving away money that there is no need to give away? If I give her more do you think she is going to say let me drop by his place and give him a free round? Do you think her pussy would have gotten any wetter? All it does it make you feel good to pay more. I already feel good without paying more. And evidently the girls have no complaints about it either.

P.S. Today my brother bought 2 3 piece suits and 7 shirts. He told my brother 18,600 baht at first. My brother got the price to 17,000 baht. He also wanted 1500 baht to put a special lining in each suit. My brother talked him to do both for that 1500. Should I tell him to tip the guy when his clothes are ready?

[Mr Enternational]

My interest in shopping for P4P on Soi 6 began to sour 2-3 years ago when I spent an afternoon and evening there interacting with the half dozen or so "ok" looking girls I could find in various bars and not one of them agreed to give me a BBBJ+CIM for any amount of money. I mean, we never even got to the "How much?" part since the "NO" part of it was so absolute. LOL.

So I must be a prime candidate to learn more from you about Soi 6 Economics and the Art of Hooker Negotiation.

LOL. I have already explained that. I may negotiate price, but never negotiate service. And I never have a problem with service. As I explained the other day, all I told the chick on Soi 6 was let's go to the room. (Actually I was telling her to suck my dick downstairs on the couch. But she said she could not because it is not allowed and there are cameras. I told her it was no problem with me because I did not mind making a video.) When we got there whatever happened happened. When I couldn't cum she asked if it would help for her to suck my dick more. I'm pretty sure she would have had no problem with me CIM. Might have had a problem with YOU CIM; I can not attest to that. As always, YMMV.

So for further clarification; are you saying you have never gotten a refusal of your 700 baht ST and 1000 baht LT offer from any and every girl you have ever propositioned on Soi 6?

No. I remember trying to take this chick from Toy Box LT and she would not budge from this astronomical price. Like 3000 baht plus whatever the barfine was.