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  1. #26198
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    Unusual, but it would have been proper to have given her maybe 1,000 TB for her time. The food and drink you provided her doesn't pay her bills. You got her from an agogo club and it was expected you would pay her something. Something was obviously going on with her, and when you bailed, she was crying. So, someone on the phone was causing her troubles and then you caused her troubles and she probably made nothing for a night's work and her life got that much worse. Yes, she messed up and can't blame you for walking away without paying the entire 4,000, but she gave you lots of entertainment and 6 hours of her time, so you kind of stiffed her. Not cool.
    You get a girl from a GoGo to fuck her. As a standard she should BBBJ, CIM and lick ass. That is what she should be expecting to do when she leaves the club, nothing else. Did she refuse to go to the hotel? If not then you probably should have paid her for her time. Maybe not the 4 k, but something.

  2. #26197
    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    Hi Hawk.

    I re-read his post and it is very grey. She didn't ask and he didn't offer but with her disappearing while he was at the bathroom probably didn't help. I personally wouldn't barfine an agogo girl and then take them out on a date! If I want a night out I would probably try to get a freebie girl or a part timer and have a long time session at half the price and no barfine.

    You are due to hit Pattaya soon?

    All the best Rob.
    I really don't think Hawk was serious about his post. I think he was fuckin' around with Theo.

    I say this because this is what I would do.

  3. #26196
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    Unusual, but it would have been proper to have given her maybe 1,000 TB for her time. The food and drink you provided her doesn't pay her bills. You got her from an agogo club and it was expected you would pay her something. Something was obviously going on with her, and when you bailed, she was crying. So, someone on the phone was causing her troubles and then you caused her troubles and she probably made nothing for a night's work and her life got that much worse. Yes, she messed up and can't blame you for walking away without paying the entire 4,000, but she gave you lots of entertainment and 6 hours of her time, so you kind of stiffed her. Not cool.
    Hi Hawk.

    I re-read his post and it is very grey. She didn't ask and he didn't offer but with her disappearing while he was at the bathroom probably didn't help. I personally wouldn't barfine an agogo girl and then take them out on a date! If I want a night out I would probably try to get a freebie girl or a part timer and have a long time session at half the price and no barfine.

    You are due to hit Pattaya soon?

    All the best Rob.

  4. #26195
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    Unusual, but it would have been proper to have given her maybe 1,000 TB for her time. The food and drink you provided her doesn't pay her bills. You got her from an agogo club and it was expected you would pay her something. Something was obviously going on with her, and when you bailed, she was crying. So, someone on the phone was causing her troubles and then you caused her troubles and she probably made nothing for a night's work and her life got that much worse. Yes, she messed up and can't blame you for walking away without paying the entire 4,000, but she gave you lots of entertainment and 6 hours of her time, so you kind of stiffed her. Not cool.
    So you need a operation you make a appointment with your surgeon have it all lined up and on the day appointed he has a fight with his wife and instead of professionally doing his job as was contracted or offering an alternative he turned on a few movies for you to watch as entertainment then spent a few hours on the phone arguing and crying on the phone afterwards he apologizes and sends you home, naturally you don't pay. Well I say that's not cool as he gave you entertainment and spent how many hours with you and you stiffed him. Its people like you and not the Korean or the Japanese (insert stereotype) that has made girls attitudes worse and prices go up not that long ago for 1 k I could get a girl long time I still can but its be a plain jane type but at least ID be able to have sex according to you a girl who wastes my time for 6 hrs and I'm supposed to compensate her. I contract her for sexual services I take her around so as to make her feel less of a prostitute, if I wanted to waste my time dating and not get sex ID go on tinder etc there are plenty girl happy for free dinner and partying and I don't have to pay her for her time.

  5. #26194
    Quote Originally Posted by FLHawk  [View Original Post]
    Unusual, but it would have been proper to have given her maybe 1,000 TB for her time. The food and drink you provided her doesn't pay her bills. You got her from an agogo club and it was expected you would pay her something. Something was obviously going on with her, and when you bailed, she was crying. So, someone on the phone was causing her troubles and then you caused her troubles and she probably made nothing for a night's work and her life got that much worse. Yes, she messed up and can't blame you for walking away without paying the entire 4,000, but she gave you lots of entertainment and 6 hours of her time, so you kind of stiffed her. Not cool.
    I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out she was the one that played him. Afterall, she was the one that bailed when he went to the bathroom. Maybe her intentions were never to go back to the hotel, and instead just make her money from the barfine and drinks.

  6. #26193
    Quote Originally Posted by Theo110  [View Original Post]
    Fun night but no sex and 4000 baht saved. I kind of felt bad as she hung out with me for 6 hours and got no money at all just a platonic good time. Was she trying to scam me? Was I supposed to still pay for her time? This kind of felt like a college date where the girl felt guilty and bailed at the end.
    Unusual, but it would have been proper to have given her maybe 1,000 TB for her time. The food and drink you provided her doesn't pay her bills. You got her from an agogo club and it was expected you would pay her something. Something was obviously going on with her, and when you bailed, she was crying. So, someone on the phone was causing her troubles and then you caused her troubles and she probably made nothing for a night's work and her life got that much worse. Yes, she messed up and can't blame you for walking away without paying the entire 4,000, but she gave you lots of entertainment and 6 hours of her time, so you kind of stiffed her. Not cool.

  7. #26192
    Quote Originally Posted by GettingFedUp  [View Original Post]
    Mr Jones,

    I admit my knowledge of Soi 7 is from two to four years ago, so the usual caveats of YMMV, ladies come, ladies go, etc. Etc. Additionally my reasons for being in that locale we not related to our? Hobby? / vocation?

    Soi Whitehouse (or Whitehorse or Whatever) I have no experience of. The bars towards the beach road end of Soi 7 tend to be the "sofa for the wrinklies" kind. This is cheap Charlie town where a lot of Europeans sit out the cold north European winter and nurse a single beer for months, living the high life. The ladies were there but were much not much younger (or slimmer) than the customers. I have no interest in whether they were available or for what price.

    There were a couple of interesting pool bars (not my sport) opposite Mermaid resort that had interesting staff and a very pleasant vibe (as in very friendly but not pushy if, like me, you were only there for a beer and to unwind rather than to indulge in the more basic pleasures, but always nice to know you could if the whim takes you). However, last time I was there they had a new European (until March 2019) owner who treated the girls like sh! T and was only interested in playing HIS music and would change songs every 30 seconds.

    Top end of Soi 7 was lots of shop-house guesthouses = bars = restaurants = whatever they need to do to extract THB from your wallet. Certainly didn't ever feel like drinking, eating or "partaking" in any of them as I walked past.

    I did a couple of fly pasts of the big beer bar complex across Jomtien Second Road from Soi 7. Nothing and no one struck me as must do. But there were some good street food stalls there for a graze if not a full nosebag.

    Last I was there the sole GoGo in Jomtien was up at Thappraya Road and I have to say it was the saddest, but also the funniest, chrome pole bar I have ever been in. It was like an Obstetrics and Gynecological (American spell check so cannot handle Gynaecological) surgery "how not to" show.

    The area is much quieter than the other side of Pratumnak Hill (South / Central / North Pattaya. Even Nakklua is more lively). If that suits your plans then fine. I wouldn't list this as a "must do destination", but if other business keeps you in the area I'm sure you'll find something locally with a little searching and maybe enough alcohol to accept what's available.

    Regards.
    Thank you for your reply. I'm in Pattaya for 8 days so based on what I'm hearing I may save this area for a trip when I have more time or really get bored with the Central Pattaya afternoon attractions. It may have a place in my agenda if I'm wanting a quiet and amusing afternoon people watching. As I stated before I have met on a dating site 2 young likely girls who work in that area so diamonds in the rough may be available.

    In reality I think your post has saved me a valuable afternoon.

    Thanks.

  8. #26191
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    who looks better, Emily or Adriana?
    I'm a boob guy and Emily's looks bigger so I'm going with Emily.

  9. #26190

    (Some of) the typos corrected.

    Mr Jones,

    I admit my knowledge of Soi 7 is from two to four years ago, so the usual caveats of YMMV, ladies come, ladies go, etc. Etc. Additionally my reasons for being in that locale we not related to our? Hobby? / vocation?

    Soi Whitehouse (or Whitehorse or Whatever) I have no experience of. The bars towards the beach road end of Soi 7 tend to be the "sofa for the wrinklies" kind. This is cheap Charlie town where a lot of Europeans sit out the cold north European winter and nurse a single beer for months, living the high life. The ladies were there but were much not much younger (or slimmer) than the customers. I have no interest in whether they were available or for what price.

    There were a couple of interesting pool bars (not my sport) opposite Mermaid resort that had interesting staff and a very pleasant vibe (as in very friendly but not pushy if, like me, you were only there for a beer and to unwind rather than to indulge in the more basic pleasures, but always nice to know you could if the whim takes you). However, last time I was there they had a new European (until March 2019) owner who treated the girls like sh! T and was only interested in playing HIS music and would change songs every 30 seconds.

    Top end of Soi 7 was lots of shop-house guesthouses = bars = restaurants = whatever they need to do to extract THB from your wallet. Certainly didn't ever feel like drinking, eating or "partaking" in any of them as I walked past.

    I did a couple of fly pasts of the big beer bar complex across Jomtien Second Road from Soi 7. Nothing and no one struck me as must do. But there were some good street food stalls there for a graze if not a full nosebag.

    Last I was there the sole GoGo in Jomtien was up at Thappraya Road and I have to say it was the saddest, but also the funniest, chrome pole bar I have ever been in. It was like an Obstetrics and Gynecological (American spell check so cannot handle Gynaecological) surgery "how not to" show.

    The area is much quieter than the other side of Pratumnak Hill (South / Central / North Pattaya. Even Nakklua is more lively). If that suits your plans then fine. I wouldn't list this as a "must do destination", but if other business keeps you in the area I'm sure you'll find something locally with a little searching and maybe enough alcohol to accept what's available.

    Regards.

  10. #26189
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    As per the schedule below, the hottest Gogo girls will all be available to barfine:

    Oct 21 - Sapphire, Baccara and Sensations between 11.03 pm and 1. 07 am.

    Oct 23 - Palace, Fahrenheit between 9. 23 pm and 11.08 pm.

    Oct 26 - Living Dolls, Runway, Iron between 10.43 pm and 12.18 am.

    Oct 28 - What's Up / Imagine, Sharks and Skyfall between 8. 41 pm and 11.36 pm.

    On all other days, other times and other Gogo bars you will find worthless trash. Hope this helps?
    Hi Blanc.

    Can you do a chart for me for February please? I like 1 armed, deaf midgets. My budget is 800 per day and I like 3 ways. I feel old and like to be fed and in bed before 7 pm.

    LOL.

    I would pay to watch this guy in a bar.

    Love your sense of humour.

    Rob.

  11. #26188

    Adding to Gin and Tonic.

    Mr Jones,

    I admit my knowledge of Soi 7 is from two to four years ago, so the usual caveats of YMMV, ladies come, ladies go, etc. Etc. Additionally my reasons for being in that locale we not related to our? Hobby? / vocation?

    Soi Whitehouse (or Whitehorse or Whatever) I have no experience of the bars towards the beach road end of Soi 7 tend to be the "sofa for the wrinklies" kind. This is cheap Charlie town where a lot of Europeans sit out the cold north European winter and nurse a single beer for months, living the high life. The ladies were there but were much not much younger (or slimmer) than the customers. I have no interest in whether they were available or for what price.

    There were a couple of interesting pool bars (not my sport) opposite Mermaid resort that had interesting younger staff and a very pleasant vibe (as in very friendly but not pushy if, like me, you were only there for a beer and to unwind rather than to indulge in the more basic pleasures, but always nice to know you could if the whim takes you). However, last time I was there they had a new European (until March 2019) owner who treated the girls like sh! T and was only interested in playing HIS music and would change songs every 30 seconds.

    Top end of Soi 7 was lots of shop-house guesthouses = bars = restaurants = whatever they need to do to extract THB from your wallet. Certainly didn't ever feel like drinking, eating or "partaking" in any of them as I walked past.

    I did a couple of fly pasts of the big beer bar complex across Jomtien Second Road from Soi 7. Nothing and no one struck me as must do. But there were some good street food stalls there for a graze in not a full nosebag.

    Last I was there the sole GoGo in Jomtien was up at Thappraya Road (don't bother correcting it is your Nick starts with Sy*) and I have to say it was the saddest, but also the funniest, chrome pole bar I have ever been in. It was like an Obstetrics and Gynecological (American spell check so cannot handle Gynaecological) surgery "how not to" show.

    The area is much quieter than the other side of Pratumnak Hill (South / Central / North Pattaya. Even Nakklua is more lively). If that suits your plans then fine. I wouldn't list this as a "must do destination", but if other business keeps you in the area I'm sure you'll find something locally with a little searching and maybe enough alcohol to accept what's available.

    Regards.

  12. #26187
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    The going rate for popular gogo girls. That's my target. Wanting to know if they will be hard to bar fine in late October.
    As per the schedule below, the hottest Gogo girls will all be available to barfine:

    Oct 21 - Sapphire, Baccara and Sensations between 11.03 pm and 1. 07 am.

    Oct 23 - Palace, Fahrenheit between 9. 23 pm and 11.08 pm.

    Oct 26 - Living Dolls, Runway, Iron between 10.43 pm and 12.18 am.

    Oct 28 - What's Up / Imagine, Sharks and Skyfall between 8. 41 pm and 11.36 pm.

    On all other days, other times and other Gogo bars you will find worthless trash. Hope this helps?

  13. #26186
    Quote Originally Posted by MrManGuy  [View Original Post]
    The going rate for popular gogo girls. That's my target. Wanting to know if they will be hard to bar fine in late October.
    Maybe I got the reference a bit wrong when you use the word trash. I've seen Mr. E around town a number of times I blend in so well he doesn't even recognize me even when I'm right behind him but each time and I've not blind and dumb? Been to every GoGo in town and the times I've seen him the girls with seem equivalent to some of the top ones I've seen none seem to be trash of course like others say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    If you feel 5000 6000 baht is a fair price I've got no problem with it.

  14. #26185
    Quote Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste  [View Original Post]
    There are people spending a lot more than that to sleep with the top Gogo girls in Pattaya. One man's treasure is another man's trash. There is no logical way to settle this argument.
    I understand your view " one man's treasure is another man trash " but that isn't what he said" treasure" he himself said " trash " Sure if a guy wants to spend more for treasure that is their business? But he seem to have said there isn't any treasure in Pattaya just trash?

  15. #26184
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygies  [View Original Post]
    Never seen a stunner that provides your type of pornstar performance at all, at any price, although I suppose must exist for those with enough money. The stunners just don't usually have to do the dirty stuff. We all have to compromise on something. Once every two or three years get a moderate stunner (not quite Emily Ratajkowski) with really good non porn star performance. They never seem to last long. Often only got 1 or two times, then gone.

    Best to find some hot girl who likes fucking and only does it part time for both desire and a little money. Won't be perfection at a good price.

    I do see Japanese guys walking past with a stunner on occasion and wonder where they got them. Perhaps they are Coyotes at some very high price or from Gentleman's club, I don't know.

    Posts about where to find stunning girls would be the most useful posts on the forum for me. They are not so easy to find available. So like you (just slightly) I have to think, why pay very high for duds and restrictive girls.

    In general, I had pretty poor performance out of the odd Stunning Soapy girls, and wasn't even after a pornstar.
    Let me help you out a little bit. I think you know most of this stuff already. Emily Ratajkowski is famous, popular, and familiar. But to those who know about beauty, she is hardly a stunner. In real life, if you saw her body head to toe, she has the wrong leg to torso ratio. Her nose and face is a bit off as well. If she wasn't famous, I think she would be slightly above average only because of her well kept in shape body. Make up is man's worse enemy and fame is another. There are better looking girls than her who will give you PSE in the P4 P industry. I'm sharing escortofbelgium and escortofitaly, which employs beautiful Russians with 95% accuracy on their photos. I have used them extensively when traveling to Brussels and Milan. 14 girls total to date. Their services are listed, so there are no surprises or hang ups. I've attached photos of Emily real life compared to my favorite girl Adriana from escortofbelgium. Since perfect 10's, stunners, trophy girls are all debatable, let's just stick to simple majority opinion on who looks better, Emily or Adriana?
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