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    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    What's with all the welcome (not!) posts? SubCmdr wrote something nice, and I appreciate that. I see he's consistently complementing posters with words like "solid report! " That's great, if you do want your forum to stay alive and fresh, with new posters and members. Or do you prefer not to? There's a lot of specific info on this forum, but it's difficult to find and often a few years old. It's also pretty scarce at times for people like me, who want their insane extended holiday experiences, but without going bankrupt.

    I remember some crazy reports from Soi Bongkot 8 a while back, and that was exactly the type of info I look for! I'm just not that guy sitting in a beer bar, all excited about having met a lady who genuinely really likes him (not!) , or one who will boast about his LT going clubbing with him or alternatively. Cooking dinner for him. Pattaya's a big place, and there's a lot happening. You might not be aware of everything.

    I see that allegations about never having visited Thailand are kind of regular here, with even Banana Boi (over 6000 posts) joking about it. Yup, it must be a full-time job making up so many stories in a way that they can be believable. Anyway, I did get worried I wrote a bit too much below, but then I browsed through other posts and it doesn't seem so. Do tell me if I'm wrong!

    All righty, time for some recommendations (please note, these are totally random, the ones most easy to review with few words):

    Las Vegas Agogo. I won't be a regular, but it might be just the place for you! The girls are pretty good-looking, they do make an effort to get drinks and give enthusiastic lap dances, there's lots of grinding, hugging, and friendly conversation. But most of all, customer service is first-class, the waiters really make an effort to make sure you're happy, and suggest a new drink only once. They also bow their heads East Asian style, which it makes it all seem very polite. (Yes, it's too easy to guess why they do it).

    TF again. Got a very nice 20-year old Lao lady, very thin and small (she might have been a few years older, but there's no telling). Spoke no English whatsoever (Google Translate works well) and seemed absolutely elated at meeting a rather fat white man well older than her. The kissing, the hugging, the smiles, the laughter, all the way to the end. After which she went to the bathroom and came back fully dressed ready to go. That was not totally unexpected, she deserves an Oscar for acting, but who cares, it was great! Another win for TF! Had she not dropped out of character after the finish line, she'd be coming back soon, perhaps for LT. TF Sweetheart ignored my messages for a day or two, all while sitting online on TF all day, but seems she wasn't having that much luck, she's interested again and probably coming back today or tomorrow.
    Dude, after 30 years of Southeast Asia you learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. You can tell who is full of shit and you can tell who isn't. You can even tell who's never been here before and has nothing to add other than made up bullshit. It could very well be that I am jaded, but after being on this board since it's inception, I have read more fantasy porn than any human being should possibly be subjected to. The fantasy porn adds nothing to the sport as far as I am concerned but I don't make those decisions nor is my input even wanted or needed. But, whatever floats your boat.

    Now as to SubCmdr, who should more appropriately be called Snipebuttboy, you may want to exercise due diligence and do a little research on some other boards, specifically those dealing with the United States. I'm sure you'll be amazed, not that it matters one way or the other because it's the internet.

  2. #42199

    LocalExplorer knows what the Pattaya Reports section is about

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the kind words SubCmdr! .
    You are welcome my man! It is always a pleasure to see a new poster take the time to share his experience and quality intelligence.

    As for the negativity that is displayed by some posters towards me, I do not understand it either. They have never taken the time to share with me or the readership in general why they have become my personal critics. But it is not important. As it is not the critic who matters. It is the men like you and me. The men in the arena. Making the effort to share quality intelligence.

    I can see that you like to party the same way I do. I appreciate the details you give for each venue and I learn a lot as this is my first visit to Thailand and I am new poster. LOL!

    Right now I am spending time in Pattaya, having some fun. My trip is all about sex, and partying! And by "partying" I mean drinking and fooling around with girls, especially in gogos and night-time GCs, rather than clubbing. I don't mind some dancing, if that gets the party started, I'm just a bit too old and a bit too fat for that (though not by much).

    I noticed, that regardless of venue, all the costs of my drink (70-100 or 150) and LDs (140-220) are roughly the same everywhere. What's more, there is no logic in these differences: often an LD in a run-down beer bar will be more expensive than in an up-scale gogo. This leads me to always wonder "what will I get out of this" when I get asked for a drink by a girl I just met 15 seconds ago. I noticed some men are pretty happy with them just sitting awkwardly with barely any conversation, but honestly, if I just want to sit next to a very hot woman, I have a few friends back home who meet this criterion (smoking!) and are always happy to have a coffee with me.

    Now, I don't expect an immediate BJ or heavy petting from the girls: if they sit on my lap and laugh, or wrestle and hug me a bit, or jokingly dry hump me, or just have an interesting conversation, I'm fine with that! I'm always hoping for a mini-sales pitch from a lady, one I usually don't get.

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    To my surprise, the most value for money (VFM) seem to be some of the gogos, the night-time "party" GCs, and BJ-focused GCs. Some of these ladies really work hard! And worse VFM? Beer bars (both for LDs and bar fines). To the extent I think we should stop considering beer bar girls as sex workers. Perhaps I'm a bit too disappointed, but those are consistently negative experiences.
    I cannot speak to many experiences personally, but each and every time I have sat down with a girl at a beer bar, bought her a drink, felt her up, had a conversation with her, then bar fined her I have had a positive experience. It is not my first choice. But focus on the girls who choose me. If I am walking by and a girl catches my eye and gives me a "come hither" look I am going to investigate. So, far things have worked out in my favor. But as one particular critic has pointed out "I am one of those guys. ". Yes, I focus first on chemistry and not on looks or price. I do not have a problem going with a girl I do not find "model" stunning if she wins me over with her personalty during conversation. This method has worked for me in the past and has continues to work for me.

    To finish up, I'll throw some positive recommendations:

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    1) Kink! I've been here perhaps 5 times. The girls have different skill sets, from acrobatics, dancing, to the more explicit that I highly value. But it's always fun! I'll write more in another post.
    Agreed. I have a great time each and every time I step foot in the place. Bar Fine: 1500; Short Time: 3000; Long Time: 5000.

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    2) Sugar Sugar. It's not as explicit as Kink, but the dancer I chose seemed to be having as much of a good time as me, jumping on my lap and pretending to have sex and giggling all the time. The other dancers looked jealous, and even security seemed to catch on the fun atmosphere; they remembered me the following night and were jokingly cat-calling me on the street. And I didn't even spend all that much!
    I too thought the dancers were hot. The one that came over to me was fun. But one of the things I do not like about agogos is that most to not allow you fuck right then. Most of the time if I am in an agogo and a girl gets me hot I want to take her right there. Spontaneous sex it what gets my engine revving.

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    3) Lips Lounge Soi Honey. Even more explicit and hands on than Kink. Let's just say you will never wonder what the LDs get you and if they're worth it. Not for the shy!
    Need to check it out. Sounds like a place for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    4) TF. I know it's a hit-or-miss, but for me works better than beer bars. I rejected one girl only after a video-call (she was simply ugly in real life), but the other one I called and invited, a 22-year old Sweetheart, was THE best. Very clearly inexperienced in the job (although she did have a baby), she was shy about by leaving her ID at the front desk, shy about being seen with me etc. And in bed she had no idea what she should be doing, but allowed me to take lead. That was the cutest thing since the invention of puppies!! I managed to warm her up and she got very, very wet. At some point she covered my face with a pillow, not wanting to see who she was getting the pleasure from! I met her again two days letter, just as cute, but she's loosing her shyness and looking at me in a different way, so I'm not sure if the next meetings would be / will be just as good. Still, what an experience!!
    TF is most defiantly like the assorted box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get. My experiences have been very positive. Even sometimes when a girls shows up that I do not think I am actually going to be able to get into, they provide surprising good sexual experiences. Do I have low standards? I most certainly do. But I would rather have friends in low places than to be bragging about my private banking services (who give a fuck).

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    5) Telephone Bar Club. Very underrated club. Yes, it's far from Central Pattaya, but just get a Bolt bike for 30 THB! It's open from 9 AM and boasts better looking girls than in the average GC. There was one in her 20's (a 7), and a small bunch in their early 30's (also 7). There is also a 2 of an age impossible to guess, that obviously springs on you first, so don't get spooked. You can take them to the room, or get a BJ, and if you want, you can even get the BJ right there on an armchair in the bar. They're pretty hard-working!
    I have heard of the place but I have never been there. With your report I will most certainly change that, quick fast and in a hurry.

    Some people are positive by nature. I think you are one of those people and once again I am going to thank your for taking the time and energy to write another solid report. You are batting 1000.

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  4. #42197
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Don't get all excited, his endorsement isn't worth much.
    What's with all the welcome (not!) posts? SubCmdr wrote something nice, and I appreciate that. I see he's consistently complementing posters with words like "solid report! " That's great, if you do want your forum to stay alive and fresh, with new posters and members. Or do you prefer not to? There's a lot of specific info on this forum, but it's difficult to find and often a few years old. It's also pretty scarce at times for people like me, who want their insane extended holiday experiences, but without going bankrupt.

    I remember some crazy reports from Soi Bongkot 8 a while back, and that was exactly the type of info I look for! I'm just not that guy sitting in a beer bar, all excited about having met a lady who genuinely really likes him (not!) , or one who will boast about his LT going clubbing with him or alternatively. Cooking dinner for him. Pattaya's a big place, and there's a lot happening. You might not be aware of everything.

    I see that allegations about never having visited Thailand are kind of regular here, with even Banana Boi (over 6000 posts) joking about it. Yup, it must be a full-time job making up so many stories in a way that they can be believable. Anyway, I did get worried I wrote a bit too much below, but then I browsed through other posts and it doesn't seem so. Do tell me if I'm wrong!

    All righty, time for some recommendations (please note, these are totally random, the ones most easy to review with few words):

    Las Vegas Agogo. I won't be a regular, but it might be just the place for you! The girls are pretty good-looking, they do make an effort to get drinks and give enthusiastic lap dances, there's lots of grinding, hugging, and friendly conversation. But most of all, customer service is first-class, the waiters really make an effort to make sure you're happy, and suggest a new drink only once. They also bow their heads East Asian style, which it makes it all seem very polite. (Yes, it's too easy to guess why they do it).

    TF again. Got a very nice 20-year old Lao lady, very thin and small (she might have been a few years older, but there's no telling). Spoke no English whatsoever (Google Translate works well) and seemed absolutely elated at meeting a rather fat white man well older than her. The kissing, the hugging, the smiles, the laughter, all the way to the end. After which she went to the bathroom and came back fully dressed ready to go. That was not totally unexpected, she deserves an Oscar for acting, but who cares, it was great! Another win for TF! Had she not dropped out of character after the finish line, she'd be coming back soon, perhaps for LT. TF Sweetheart ignored my messages for a day or two, all while sitting online on TF all day, but seems she wasn't having that much luck, she's interested again and probably coming back today or tomorrow.

  5. #42196
    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the kind words SubCmdr! .
    !
    Don't get all excited, his endorsement isn't worth much.

  6. #42195
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    I guess you've never been to Thailand or any other Asian country. Right?
    Well, I might have exaggerated the info a bit, OK.

  7. #42194
    Quote Originally Posted by MadDin19  [View Original Post]
    I guess you've never been to Thailand or any other Asian country. Right?
    What makes you think that?

  8. #42193
    Quote Originally Posted by LocalExplorer  [View Original Post]
    You should first ask yourself is what type of fun you want. The question you are asking us is a bit like asking "what's the best place to go on vacations? ". Some people will point to Ibiza, some to a deserted island, some to the mountains, and some to Pattaya. Bangkok is much more expensive and much more subdued, although the shopping malls in BKK have more hot young girls, that's true. So probably also true for the expensive gogo bars, but I didn't check them out. Most people think of PIMP Bangkok with horror, but some have expressed their lack of remorse in spending a small fortune.

    So do you want to see nice-looking bikini ladies dancing and prancing? Bikini ladies who give you hugs? Or you want to see topless ladies? Naked ladies? Naked ladies who give you lap dances for lady drinks? Naked ones who ask you to DATY or finger them? What are your criteria for ladies? Only looks? Only age? Or would you like them to be at least a bit friendly? Or is being friendly the #1 criterion? For me looks are not enough for example, but I know a ton of people for whom only that matters.

    In Pattaya you can't go wrong with Kink, you can get all the listed activities above (some activities only with 1 or 2 ladies). Windmill doesn't have a good moment. But honestly, planning in Thailand and Pattaya doesn't make sense. Once you start you'll know which way you want to go. Don't book your accommodation for more than 2 nights, do some reading up and that's it!
    I guess you've never been to Thailand or any other Asian country. Right?

  9. #42192
    Quote Originally Posted by HAliluya  [View Original Post]
    Hi,

    Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?
    You should first ask yourself is what type of fun you want. The question you are asking us is a bit like asking "what's the best place to go on vacations? ". Some people will point to Ibiza, some to a deserted island, some to the mountains, and some to Pattaya. Bangkok is much more expensive and much more subdued, although the shopping malls in BKK have more hot young girls, that's true. So probably also true for the expensive gogo bars, but I didn't check them out. Most people think of PIMP Bangkok with horror, but some have expressed their lack of remorse in spending a small fortune.

    So do you want to see nice-looking bikini ladies dancing and prancing? Bikini ladies who give you hugs? Or you want to see topless ladies? Naked ladies? Naked ladies who give you lap dances for lady drinks? Naked ones who ask you to DATY or finger them? What are your criteria for ladies? Only looks? Only age? Or would you like them to be at least a bit friendly? Or is being friendly the #1 criterion? For me looks are not enough for example, but I know a ton of people for whom only that matters.

    In Pattaya you can't go wrong with Kink, you can get all the listed activities above (some activities only with 1 or 2 ladies). Windmill doesn't have a good moment. But honestly, planning in Thailand and Pattaya doesn't make sense. Once you start you'll know which way you want to go. Don't book your accommodation for more than 2 nights, do some reading up and that's it!

  10. #42191
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I tip my hat to you LocalExplorer This is a straight drop the bat and watch walk off home run.
    Thanks for the kind words SubCmdr! .

    Right now I am spending time in Pattaya, having some fun. My trip is all about sex, and partying! And by "partying" I mean drinking and fooling around with girls, especially in gogos and night-time GCs, rather than clubbing. I don't mind some dancing, if that gets the party started, I'm just a bit too old and a bit too fat for that (though not by much).

    I noticed, that regardless of venue, all the costs of my drink (70-100 or 150) and LDs (140-220) are roughly the same everywhere. What's more, there is no logic in these differences: often an LD in a run-down beer bar will be more expensive than in an up-scale gogo. This leads me to always wonder "what will I get out of this" when I get asked for a drink by a girl I just met 15 seconds ago. I noticed some men are pretty happy with them just sitting awkwardly with barely any conversation, but honestly, if I just want to sit next to a very hot woman, I have a few friends back home who meet this criterion (smoking!) and are always happy to have a coffee with me.

    Now, I don't expect an immediate BJ or heavy petting from the girls: if they sit on my lap and laugh, or wrestle and hug me a bit, or jokingly dry hump me, or just have an interesting conversation, I'm fine with that! I'm always hoping for a mini-sales pitch from a lady, one I usually don't get.

    To my surprise, the most value for money (VFM) seem to be some of the gogos, the night-time "party" GCs, and BJ-focused GCs. Some of these ladies really work hard! And worse VFM? Beer bars (both for LDs and bar fines). To the extent I think we should stop considering beer bar girls as sex workers. Perhaps I'm a bit too disappointed, but those are consistently negative experiences.

    To finish up, I'll throw some positive recommendations:

    1) Kink! I've been here perhaps 5 times. The girls have different skill sets, from acrobatics, dancing, to the more explicit that I highly value. But it's always fun! I'll write more in another post.

    2) Sugar Sugar. It's not as explicit as Kink, but the dancer I chose seemed to be having as much of a good time as me, jumping on my lap and pretending to have sex and giggling all the time. The other dancers looked jealous, and even security seemed to catch on the fun atmosphere; they remembered me the following night and were jokingly cat-calling me on the street. And I didn't even spend all that much!

    3) Lips Lounge Soi Honey. Even more explicit and hands on than Kink. Let's just say you will never wonder what the LDs get you and if they're worth it. Not for the shy!

    4) TF. I know it's a hit-or-miss, but for me works better than beer bars. I rejected one girl only after a video-call (she was simply ugly in real life), but the other one I called and invited, a 22-year old Sweetheart, was THE best. Very clearly inexperienced in the job (although she did have a baby), she was shy about by leaving her ID at the front desk, shy about being seen with me etc. And in bed she had no idea what she should be doing, but allowed me to take lead. That was the cutest thing since the invention of puppies!! I managed to warm her up and she got very, very wet. At some point she covered my face with a pillow, not wanting to see who she was getting the pleasure from! I met her again two days letter, just as cute, but she's loosing her shyness and looking at me in a different way, so I'm not sure if the next meetings would be / will be just as good. Still, what an experience!!

    5) Telephone Bar Club. Very underrated club. Yes, it's far from Central Pattaya, but just get a Bolt bike for 30 THB! It's open from 9 AM and boasts better looking girls than in the average GC. There was one in her 20's (a 7), and a small bunch in their early 30's (also 7). There is also a 2 of an age impossible to guess, that obviously springs on you first, so don't get spooked. You can take them to the room, or get a BJ, and if you want, you can even get the BJ right there on an armchair in the bar. They're pretty hard-working!

  11. #42190
    You really can't go wrong on Soi 6. 75 baht for a Cola. Unlimited Ugly s to oogle. Hahaha.

    I did find a 19 year old. No Baitoey but kind of acceptable. No intelligence but she looked FINE.

  12. #42189

    Suggestions?

    Hi,

    Newbie here, first time to Thailand managing my trip. I wonder if I wish to have a good gogo bar experience where should I go? Is the difference between Bangkok and Pattaya that much of a difference? Got six or seven days of staying wish to experience as much as possible. Got relatively flexible budget, how should I distribute the time in Pattaya and Bangkok and if I wish to try more of gogo bar should I distribute more time to Pattaya? Since I felt there are more playable event in Bangkok and I heard girls are generally prettier, so I wonder what should I do?

  13. #42188
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I sent the bargirl money so she can pay her barfine (1,000 baht) and meet me in Ban Chang. <snip> The true test is whether she sends me back the 1000 baht.
    Of course she will. I always used to get my gogo girls to pay their barfine first and I paid them back after arrival at the meet up spot.

    One time my gogo girl paid her barfine but by the time she got to my place I felt sick as fuck so she made a food and 711 run for me, took care of me for an hour, and refused to take any money including her barfine back and didn't charge me for her time. She said no big deal she got to see me and can now go eat with her friends.

    Really seems like we hang out with 2 different levels of girls. Gogo vs Soi 25.

  14. #42187
    How much are ladydrinks on soi 6?

  15. #42186
    6,000 US Navy sailors are in town. The ladies are learning how to say "Hello, Sailor" in English.

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