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  1. #33802

    Flight costs

    I don't know but part of the issue of flights is the amount of time it takes to get from PointA to Point be. For example, I usually fly United or Eva from the US West Coast to Thailand with a stop in either Japan or Taipei, Taiwan. However, Eva is currently not flying to most of their usual international destinations due to Taiwans draconian Covid policies. In better times, they offered a reasonable alternative to United with better planes, prettier and more genial flight attendants, and perhaps a few more empty seats. On a few occasions, I was able to commander an entire row in economy to lie down for the long haul portion of the flight. Not so with United. Nevertheless, United flights for one way are for the most part now over 1,000 one way where they used to be $700 or thereabouts. One could always fly their Japanese airline partner but that mostly seems to lead into Japan for the first stop and longer layovers. It's still possible to use award miles and lately a one way with United will cost you between 44 to 48 k miles from US west coast to BKK or even vía Frankfurt with the last leg covered by Thai Airways. This mileage change assessment came about after Test and Go was suspended so I suspect it will revert back to a higher cost in mileage in short order.

  2. #33801

    I hear your pain

    https://www.kayak.co.uk/flights/LON-...t=bestflight_a

    https://www.kayak.co.uk/flights/LAX-...t=bestflight_a

    I did a quick kayak search of flights to Bangkok from London and from LAX. Though more searches would be necessary, fares look ok and airlines who want to stay in the game are desperate for $$.

    Smaller countries like Thailand cannot be the first to blink or they will suffer retaliation. My advice to you would be to book a deal if other variables are ok as carbon taxes are on the way. Western governments have printed and spent money like drunken American sailors in Pattaya for Operation Cobra. There is a huge hangover on the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasb  [View Original Post]
    I had given up on coming to Thailand after they suspended the Test & Go program. Initially, all indications were that this program would not be reinstalled for at least several months and there was no way as a fully vaccinated individual I was going to submit to a mandatory quarantine of seven days at one of their expensive hotel alternatives. However, it appears that the Thai authorities realized that many potential visitors, like myself, felt the same way and cancelled their plans to come to Thailand this winter.

    Now, they are doing a rather dramatic reversal and all indications appear to suggest they are going to allow Test&Go to resume beginning in February (though so far it's unclear when in February). However, I still have concerns mainly that a potential remains that I would test positive upon arrival, either on the arrival date or five days later, and even though asymptomatic may find myself facing a hospital stay or a longer stay in their designated hotel. That's a non-starter in my opinion. Also, I am still fairly certain I would not come if the 9 pm drinking rule stays in effect. I could live with the non restaurant bars and night clubs being closed, but I can drink at home after 9 pm so why travel half way around the world to face this restriction.

    Finally, the Thai authorities were quoted as saying this change in policy to allow Test &Go will increase tourism by 8 million pax through the year. Perhaps, they are forgetting that many potential visitors have already changed their winter holiday plans, the now high cost of international flight travel that will continue to defer travelers, and the possibility that a positive test whilst in Thailand will result in an enforced hospital stay? In fact, only two months are left of their traditional high season.

  3. #33800

    Thailand visit

    I had given up on coming to Thailand after they suspended the Test & Go program. Initially, all indications were that this program would not be reinstalled for at least several months and there was no way as a fully vaccinated individual I was going to submit to a mandatory quarantine of seven days at one of their expensive hotel alternatives. However, it appears that the Thai authorities realized that many potential visitors, like myself, felt the same way and cancelled their plans to come to Thailand this winter.

    Now, they are doing a rather dramatic reversal and all indications appear to suggest they are going to allow Test&Go to resume beginning in February (though so far it's unclear when in February). However, I still have concerns mainly that a potential remains that I would test positive upon arrival, either on the arrival date or five days later, and even though asymptomatic may find myself facing a hospital stay or a longer stay in their designated hotel. That's a non-starter in my opinion. Also, I am still fairly certain I would not come if the 9 pm drinking rule stays in effect. I could live with the non restaurant bars and night clubs being closed, but I can drink at home after 9 pm so why travel half way around the world to face this restriction.

    Finally, the Thai authorities were quoted as saying this change in policy to allow Test &Go will increase tourism by 8 million pax through the year. Perhaps, they are forgetting that many potential visitors have already changed their winter holiday plans, the now high cost of international flight travel that will continue to defer travelers, and the possibility that a positive test whilst in Thailand will result in an enforced hospital stay? In fact, only two months are left of their traditional high season.

  4. #33799
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Are you worried about catching COVID/omicron or are you worried about getting quarantined after you test positive? I delayed my trip because I'm worried about being quarantined in a miserable situation even if I have no symptoms.

    I would have kept my January-March travel plans if the Thai government clearly allowed me to opt to quarantine in my own hotel room when I test positive.
    There are very few good outcomes from catching Covid. I will return to Pattaya when the chances of catching Omicron in a bar are not so high.

    Meanwhile, I am asking those in Pattaya to report on the extent of the spread of Omicron there, and whether those ATK tests are still required to go into a bar.

  5. #33798
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    Are you worried about catching COVID/omicron or are you worried about getting quarantined if you test positive? I delayed my trip because I'm worried about being quarantined in a miserable situation even if I have no symptoms.
    Bingo, you hit the bullseye with that point. Omicron is not life threatening. It is time various Governments in SE Asia especially realized this fact and and dropped their draconian policies. It is a good thing I know about other countries where a guy can have a great time without the threat of covid ward hanging over him. I won't submit to covid tests in-country. Period!

  6. #33797
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    No idea. I was speaking hypothetically, since I am not in Thailand now.

    I come back when they stop checking for an ATK test if you go to a restaurant, and Omicron isn't everywhere.
    Are you worried about catching COVID/omicron or are you worried about getting quarantined after you test positive? I delayed my trip because I'm worried about being quarantined in a miserable situation even if I have no symptoms.

    I would have kept my January-March travel plans if the Thai government clearly allowed me to opt to quarantine in my own hotel room when I test positive.

  7. #33796
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Has the Thailand. Malaysia VTL officially opened? I'm only interested in VTL's since it's going to be the best way for me to get to Jakarta or Seoul without quarantine. Glad other countries are opening VTL now as I was looking to travel through Singapore.
    No idea. I was speaking hypothetically, since I am not in Thailand now.

    I come back when they stop checking for an ATK test if you go to a restaurant, and Omicron isn't everywhere.

  8. #33795
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    spending a weekend in Kuala Lumpur.
    Has the Thailand. Malaysia VTL officially opened? I'm only interested in VTL's since it's going to be the best way for me to get to Jakarta or Seoul without quarantine. Glad other countries are opening VTL now as I was looking to travel through Singapore.

  9. #33794
    My massage lady (is lobbying for me to take her on travel outside Thailand, when I return from Brazil. She's a MILF, maybe 10 years removed from looking like a bargirl.

    The thing is, she's married. As long as I don't mention her husband, she is free to do anything. There is only a small chance her husband would object to her spending a weekend in Kuala Lumpur.

    The number of ladies in Pattaya with Thai husbands is astounding. Once you get the real Facebook account of one bargirl, you can see the rest of the ladies in the bar, and it's amazing how many are married. As long as you don't mention their husband, they are single with no constraints. If you talk about their husband, they lose face and can become shy. So, the first rule of Bar Club is every lady is single.

  10. #33793
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    I will head back to Pattaya when Omicron isn't rampant in the bars, and they don't require an ATK test to enter a bar. Until then, I am waiting it out in Brazil.
    Pattaya sounds like a sad place to be right now again.

    Almost as sad as things it's seems have become again in Bangkok flesh spots.

    It will get better again, but I do note that a lot of the talent that fled Pattaya before, then returned, are leaving again.

    And turning back up in Phuket, posting such in their online social media.

    And, if you believe the crybabies bemoaning the high prices and lacking of quality (online) in Phuket.

    Well you wouldn't go there either.

    Thankfully, they don't know the rules of the game and how to play it, like you, others and myself do.

    And it seems they'd rather yak yak than adapt their games.

    So be it, all the more for the rest of us is how I look at it.

  11. #33792
    I will head back to Pattaya when Omicron isn't rampant in the bars, and they don't require an ATK test to enter a bar. Until then, I am waiting it out in Brazil.

  12. #33791
    I am beat, dead tired. Just so many girls contacting me saying 'no customer' can I come over for 1000? More girls showing up on Thai Friendly now, more girls showing up to Pattaya in general. Why I don't know. Maybe its the bars closing at 9 pm that's causing the girls not to find customers? Many of the TF girls have soi 6 photos on their profiles so maybe not enough guys going there to keep them happy? I did hit a bar today in LK metro and they asked about my covid status and I just pulled out my 2 day old self tested antigen test and that was good enough for them. If not I was ready to walk to the next bar. That was around 4 pm so maybe they were getting ready for the official testers to be setting up shop nearby. There are more girls lining all of the bars now, tons of them. Have to say though I really don't care much for paying a barfine when the girls from TF are just as hot and friendly and come to you so you can see more girls instead of spending it on drinks.

    I will admit, today I over payed. Barfined a girl I've done twice and just should skip her because she's living above her bar so her coming over after work most likely won't happen. But barfine her I did and got 2 good rounds and 2 fantastic rounds out of her in 6 hours (that's why I am dead tired). Small girl, great body and just a sex freak in bed. Never had a girl who wanted to keep on fucking like her before. First round I played with her ass a bit and got no complaints. Then a bit of a finger up the bum hole. No complaints. Then the porn style move of a finger in each hole. Still no complaints. Had a good romp in many positions then rested a bit. Second round back to her ass. This time got the head of my dick into her ass. No complaint. Switched her over to doggy and back in the ass, this time did the reach around and started playing with her clit. And she freaked out and started to pound me. Got her on top without pulling it out and she rode it like there was no tomorrow. Finished and we both had to 'clean up'. Third round I rushed the ass a bit too much, should have played with her more and lubed it up instead I just stuck it in a bit too quickly. Got a really loud DEP out of that move. But she was a trooper and soon I was back in the back door. Took it easier this time around, not as hard or fast. I was getting tired fast. Finished up and another round of showers for both of us. Fourth pop was just me admiring her curves and figured one more short round just to send her on her way. First time I've ever managed to do an Asian girl in the ass, last time was a hot Romanian year ago back in Germany.

    Now these four rounds were all bareback, unlikely I'd have managed four rounds using condoms. I know there will be those guys who will post about the risks of barebacking, especially bareback anal. But to those guys, please put down your fleshlight and double check to make sure the condom you wearing while using your newfound love while stuck in your home is still in place because you don't know where that fleshlight has been. Maybe you left it out and your brother or your dog used it so please please make sure you clean it before reusing it over and over. Seriously though, if a girl here asks for a condom all you have to do is roll it on 2 inches and stop. These girls have no idea its supposed to cover your entire shaft. I've had girls who insisted on a condom and it was only on the head of my dick, everything except the head was bareback. They are told to ask for a condom but most never use them in their personal lives I'm betting. Their legs are spread open and no questions asked even when the condom is barely on.

    I also have to mention to guys coming here. Download grab and bolt ride sharing apps. The savings will add up fast if you want to hop around town vs trying to flag down a taxi or motorbike. I also use food panda a lot, either for grocery or food delivery. Why go hunting for stuff when you can have it delivered right to your door.

  13. #33790
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    It sounds like no one on Soi 6 was requiring customers have a recent ATK test.
    I did a self test at my condo and put it in the included plastic bag and took it with me to show if I was asked to show a negative test. And I'd even put it on the table next to my mask and nobody looked at it or asked about it during the day at any bar I visited anywhere from LK metro to Soi 6 bars. Its possible at night they are asking but I really doubt it. Temp gun sitting on a booklet of tests that never get touched. I am curious what an official test should look like, my guess is there is something written inside with a date and signed by the tester? Anyone know?

  14. #33789
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    Took a run down to soi 6, arriving at 2:30 pm since they are now closing the bars at 9 pm. Not much talent I'm afraid but I did stop by 3 bars for a beer each to check out the girls. Right around 4 pm it really seemed to pick up, maybe all of the late girls came to work. I do look for jems to be found and was suppressed to find several worth considering. It just can't compare to pre-covid levels but there were a few gems here and there worth considering. I didn't see anyone ever check to see if you had a clear covid test, it was business as usual with managers and girls all walking around without masks. I had some fun with one of the girls and then headed out around 6 pm before any police checks might happen.
    It sounds like no one on Soi 6 was requiring customers have a recent ATK test.

  15. #33788

    Pattaya bar raids

    As mentioned below, there was a raid by Pattaya police last night of several bars who were serving alcohol in jugs after 9 pm. The bars had appeared closed as there were canvas material covering the opening but the police were not duped by this tactic and a number of owners were arrested. Apparently, quite a few of the bars had customers inside but they were not arrested. The bell slowly toils for thee, Pattaya.

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