Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

What you should have done is gotten her details to share with the rest of us.

Details for what? You can just head up to the Crack Shacks and pick your own dope fiend for 200 baht.

[WashingtonJone]

Newbie 29 year old Latino American in Bangkok. Anybody want to link up for some mongering adventures?

[ShiftTab]

Talking to another chick on Thaifriendly right before she came. She said if a guy is her customer then she would go with him for free sometimes.

I can attest to this as true. I had a regular arrangement with a college girl in Bangkok several years ago when I lived there and she would come to my apartment 3-4 times a month on the weekends, typically Sundays. I paid her 3500 b to stay the whole day for companionship and sex, and to help out with small chores. After two months, she asked if I can cook a meal for her since she wanted to try my cooking, so I cooked dinner for her. That was the first time she didn't charge me for the visit. Every month afterwards, she would come over for free once. When I took her out for dinner on her birthday, she didn't come back to my apartment, and I wasn't disappointed since I didn't expect anything other than dinner. The following weekend she didn't take my money when she visited me. The relationship was purely business, but the girl will show her appreciation by giving free sex if you treat her well and show respect.

[AKinkyThreesum]

What you should have done is gotten her details to share with the rest of us.

I meant that as a jest, but it came across a bit aggressive rather than as a joke. I meant to put a winky face; at the end, but it didn't come through and now I can't edit the post. No hard feeling I hope.

[USExpat]

What you should have done is gotten her details to share with the rest of us.

You can upload it along with your posts / reports here. The membership is just for you to send PMs.

I'm not in the habit of collecting or sharing details for a very spaced out Beach Road Hooker. Sorry. All I recall from a disjointed, very short conversation from more than a year ago was she may have been from Bangkok. Cute though (in my opinion); just not in any shape for much. She was on the Beach side, around Soi 8 or so.

Thanks for the tip on photos. Didn't know that.

[AKinkyThreesum]

it is not convenient to monger in Vietnam anymore.

Not to get too off topic, but what's changed? If you refer me to a report on particular that's great since I'm getting the impression from the Kuala Lumpur that the Vietnam scene is starting to open up as the quantity / quality goes down and price goes up for viets in SEA.

[AKinkyThreesum]

The one exception a year or so ago was a really cute, short haired young woman on Beach Road who was selling herself for 100 baht. No joke. She was strung out on something not good for her for sure. I gave her 200 baht and wished her well.

What you should have done is gotten her details to share with the rest of us.

I've got her photo still, but can't share it without a bitcoin membership here which I think is nuts.

You can upload it along with your posts / reports here. The membership is just for you to send PMs.

[USExpat]

Trip Report, Tuesday, Day 9, August 27.

She texted me late morning saying she wanted to be with me but I had to go to the bar to pay the fine. She said she happy to see me smile and that she acted badly, after the drunken episode. I apologized for being boring, then she said she was never bored with me. Well, yeah. I am bored with me. I said I was old and she said I always looked cute to her. She sent me picture of the greeting cards with the messages I wrote for the flowers I had sent. I had just sent a text where I laughed and said that she rejected my love so she no longer has to lie, which referred to the cute comment. She did not like what I said and was saying "good bye and thank you" if I thought she was lying. I said no, it was a joke (well.) related to the cute comment, not the notes so she forgave. I said how appreciative I was she kept the cards. We set plans to see Kaan tonight and, and at 12:40 PM she was at the bar and was ready for me to get her. So, I guess she would rather be bored with me making money than bored at the bar hoing for lady drinks.

Your not-so-secret episodes with Secret are entertaining and informative. To a degree, but geez. How about a little perspective. As I get it, you're a sometimes visitor, two-or three-timing a semi-professional hooker while lamenting that she fails to send you the satisfying vibes that persuade you of her undying love and commitment.

Family first isn't unique to Thailand; it's pretty much the culture of any number of Asian countries. I've met a score or more of Chinese women and girls who abandoned the love of their lives because he wasn't acceptable to her parents or grandparents. All send money home frequently. Same here.

You're an old guy. These are kids, pimped out by their families as a source of income. Some are burdened by kids and turned loose in a less than desirable environment as prey for, lets face it, not the best specimens of humankind, albeit with exceptions like you and me. They get road-tested, ranked and written up like cars on Consumers Reports. You really have a problem with a bar fine of maybe fifteen bucks? And a couple of hours banging the girl for thirty? Try that in New York, Boston or Kansas City.

Despite their environment and being screwed over by many of us time and time again (except of course by you and me), many of these young women keep their wits about them, keep their sense of humor and their hope and can be great fun. Others don't. Secret seems like a decent sort. Cut her some slack. Unless your willing to give her the kind of commitment you want from her. Including her culture's measure of commitment which means some financial support for her and her family, your expectations aren't realistic. Just have fun. That's what this place is all about. Save the fairy tales for the movies.

[YoursDeepus]

So I guess she is a hoe now and tomorrow after I fuck her, I am in the mind to throw it up in her face after she tried to act so damn offended when she thought I was mistaking her for one.

I would love to hear how that goes.

[RedMau5]

Which gogo bar was this?

It happened twice for me. One girl from Skyfalls and another from Ninja, but I found out that a bunch of the girls from various other bars did too. Like I previously mentioned, this type of payment is up to the girl. The bars and mamasans had nothing to do with it. The money goes to a trusted individual (a foreigner and a hobbyist at that) and he pays out the girls accordingly their share. I'm thinking there must be some real trust amongst this group. But it does make sense especially for the weekend warriors and Japanese who like swiping their company credit cards to take advantage of this. Let your company or business pay for pussy and write it off as a tax break.

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Tuesday, Day 9, August 27.

She texted me late morning saying she wanted to be with me but I had to go to the bar to pay the fine. She said she happy to see me smile and that she acted badly, after the drunken episode. I apologized for being boring, then she said she was never bored with me. Well, yeah. I am bored with me. I said I was old and she said I always looked cute to her. She sent me picture of the greeting cards with the messages I wrote for the flowers I had sent. I had just sent a text where I laughed and said that she rejected my love so she no longer has to lie, which referred to the cute comment. She did not like what I said and was saying "good bye and thank you" if I thought she was lying. I said no, it was a joke (well.) related to the cute comment, not the notes so she forgave. I said how appreciative I was she kept the cards. We set plans to see Kaan tonight and, and at 12:40 PM she was at the bar and was ready for me to get her. So, I guess she would rather be bored with me making money than bored at the bar hoing for lady drinks.

However, she was late arriving at the bar and I arrived early, so I had to wait on her. The club was not officially open but some of the girls were down, including the roommate, the mamsan and a few other girls. We talked a little about Secret, and I learned some things and confirmed some things. First, the roommate did not seem aware that Secret was leaving the end of the month (I later lean it won't be end of the month but a week after, so possibly a language misunderstanding confirmed later on.) The mamasan and friend mentioned the farang, saying he was nice and was able to come by frequently, which was key to her being drawn towards him over me, but they were unaware of any deal she had made with him. But they also said she was not bar fining anyone there. The roomy repeated she talked a lot about me and said both of us were nice men but the other is able to see her more often.

Secret arrived and we still had a very nice day. I took tons of pictures of her on my pro-level camera and she was not ashamed to hold my hold. We got back and quickly had to get ready for Kaan, which was OK. She really liked it, but it was so so for me.

Then we had dinner at CF mall and back to the hotel for bed. She was full of affection but I am starting to notice she isn't much in to kissing. I view kissing as one bit of evidence she loves the man. If you don't like to kiss you, she probably doesn't love you. She loved to cuddle and such, but the no kissing is killing my passion and starts to bother me. She will kiss during intercourse, but nothing but pecks during foreplay.

I have fun spending most of the day with her again, but frustrations are growing.

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Monday, Day 8, August 25.

Next morning we sleep until after 10:30. The friend got up and seems in good spirits and gets ready for work. (Did I mention they work in the same bar?) Secret was going to BF herself as she had a bad headache. How the friend could function I do not know. But now Secret had Monday off. A bit later, lying in bed, Secret get suddenly horny and directs my hand to her Vag. I had already gotten dressed thinking I was going to leave earlier, so I see where this is now going and I take the shorts off then we face each other on our sides and we start to have sex. I end up on top and she seems to want to really come as she is now bucking me while I remain motionless. Between that and me thrusting in several sets, she has a mild O and waited for me to have mine. I get close but then I get analytical about what is happening. Should I really be getting emotional with her like this? I had just broken up with her, I thought, and now I am in her bed in her apartment banging her?? So, bummer, I can't release. No O for over 3 days now, and we are BB, and I am not releasing. Sigh. I do think I will be with her that evening so I don't fret too much. But any session could be my last with her, so I do regret not trying a little harder.

We finally get up around 1 PM and says I can go to my hotel and she will come over a little later. Is she planning to get me to pay her BF? Obviously. I could decline and accept the free sex, but I tell her to come on over. She lets me out of the building and I find a motorbike taxi to take me back, but I go to Subway for breakfast / lunch. She texts me to say she will be at my place at 3 PM. OK.

She arrives and it still hungover and wants to continue sleeping. Well, ok, and I put her to bed and massage her temples, which she like, for a while, and as I am writing these words she is 8 feet from me sleeping, or resting anyway.

She wakes after 5 PM and we go to a Japanese place with the moving food line at CF for dinner. I am coming to terms with the ultimate disposition of our relationship but trying to enjoy the time we have left. I am obviously not banging many girls this trip, but the times with Secret are more than some random encounters with other BGs that leave with me frustrated. We walk on the beach holding hands and I know we are all but over, and this will all be ending in a few days as I have already made plans to leave Friday, but I just try to live in the moment.

Back at the hotel I apologize for being so boring and all, and decided we should go see a show tomorrow, and I get tickets for KAAN. She likes that, so we prepare to sleep and, again, I cannot come with her. However, at 5 AM I awake horny and I start to touch her and after I go down on her she gets wet and allows me to enter her, and I do release. This will be my last O with her.

Next morning she leaves around 10 AM to go back to her place to clean up. I will pick her up at the bar later to attend the KAAN shown.

Sorry, no mongering again today folks.

[LoneWolff]

Was bowling today and one of my buddies was telling us about a brand new soapie that he went inside today. Funny thing is that they have been building the shit for a year and all of us thought it was going to be some condos. It is right next to Friendship Market on Pattaya Tai. Turns out that it is Honey Grand.

Thanks for sharing Mr. E. Good to know Honey brand is expanding and will surely try next time. During my most recent trip, I had couple of good sessions with the expensive ones at Honey 2. They had just a handful of them in the V category and the sessions were very satisfactory. I think I paid 3. 8 k or 4 k excluding tips for each session and it was totally worth it considering the gals were pretty and young with no baby damage. I was worried about getting a cold shoulder once inside the room but it was smiles all the way.

[Mr Enternational]

I would love to see the pics or profiles of the girls who stooped to 750 TBH long time.

What does the pic of the woman have to do with anything? Are you saying it depends on how the woman looks as to how much money she takes? I have already pointed out that in a gogo all the women get 4000 baht or whatever and not all are superstars. Maybe it depends more so on how the punter looks. Or maybe it depends on how the girl feels. Many factors play into a pricing scheme.

It is now 2 pm and a chick that has been over a couple times before just came over. The other times she has been in such a rush to leave that I brought it up before she came. Today she said that she would stay all night if I wanted her to. Same 1000 baht. Said maybe she was busy the last times and needed to leave quick.

Talking to another chick on Thaifriendly right before she came. She said if a guy is her customer then she would go with him for free sometimes.

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Sunday, Day 7, August 24.

The one where I share a bed with Secret and her Roommate.

With Secret over, I came home and went to bed near midnight, staying at the hotel to work on these reports. Man, this has been tough to relive it all. I slept badly the previous night and I know it will be bad sleeping again tonight, so I popped a full strength Ambien. I turned the lights off around midnight I guess and a couple of hours later the strangest things started happening! Let me state I am quite familiar with the potential side effects of Ambien. Though I have built up a tolerance from past daily use, I rarely take it anymore and I guess my tolerance declined, as around 3 am I awoke with a start. A room light was one and I phone was lit. Huh? There was a message from Secret, who was on her way to her apartment up north. But I was out of it. A typical Ambien side effect for me was if I was on my cell phone the keypad would start to do all sorts of strange things. Keys would move and arrange themselves in weird ways, and trying to type coherently was quite difficult, with the keys moving and the brain being unable to rationally process things. So I read the message and she asked how I was. I responded in what was a spiel of messages that I am sure overwhelmed her and, thankfully, unable to comprehend. I was going to post some of the things I said to her, but I have embarrassed myself all ready.

She said she was worried about me and set a few other messages, then again later the next morning to make sure I was ok. We sort of made tentative plans for after she got back into town Monday. I know, I am putting myself out there for more pain. But being the optimist, I have to admit that Secret never broke up with me, I was the one who broke up with her. Well, maybe there was never exactly a relationship to break here, but the basic fact that she did not agree to end things left an opening. Am I a fool to go for it? Well, the time I have spent with her this trip has been stressful and I am coming on a little strong, so I need to back off and try to have some fun.

When I mentioned us going out again she made sure to remind that I had to pay the BF before I could take her, and for the first time ever, she gave me her expected service fee, which at least was what I had been paying her. But this caught me by surprise and I suppose reveals a truth. She had never asked a certain amount from me ever before (and after last night's texts, she may have had a good reason!

But anyway, I did hit up Soi 6 this fine Sunday afternoon, returning to the Ruby club and hooking up with Ploy. She is cute and petite, 22 why / o and she said new to the business, like 6 days. I sometimes don't know if I should believe some of that, as in the bedroom she seemed more experienced. She was trying to learn English and she was doing a good job. She got a little pushy wanting LT. I said I usually only do ST for the first time, but inquired how long LT was. She said three hours. Um, no thanks. But she was cute with some boobies on display so I said yes to ST. I was awaiting the arrival of Mr. E but he had not yet showed up so after waiting a short while I said we could go upstairs. Mr. E would understand!

She had a pretty nice body, but I doubted her earlier claim that she had no babies. The boobies were a bit droopy but looked OK. We showered separately and she was a little shy with the towel, and after a brief kiss she was going down on me. I was having troubles getting the Johnson fully up, and not necessarily to any bad technique. I had taken Apcalis maybe 45 minutes earlier, but I shouldn't be needed it to get hard. The BJ was ok then with me still not fully hard she put on the cursed condom then did some deeper BJ action. She was in cowgirl, then doggie the missionary and back to doggie but I just wasn't feeling it, even with my expensive condoms. Within 30 minutes I gave up. She was sad but, well, I gave up so she was ready for her shower. Youngins. She maybe had a 8 face, 7 body and 6 to 7 performance. Sigh. Mr E was there front row and was his usual self, happy to be on Soi 6 and having a good time with the ladies. He gave me some rubbing about taking just 30 minutes, but I would rather spend 30 minutes with him that 30 minutes with a woman who could barely get me hard. We sat out there for about 90 minutes, me being entertained as much my him and his antics with the ladies as by the ladies themselves. Another American who was walking by got dragged in and he sat by us. I had to leave ten minutes later and said my goodbyes.

I went back to the hotel. I am quite hungry but still really don't feel like eating. I will have to eat something soon. I am definitely recovering and my not eating makes the depression I have worse than it really is. Mr. E's presence has certainly made me feel better though.

So it is 8 PM as I write these words and I am getting some hunger pangs. I think that I will head to Soi 6 yet also find some food. So, I do head back to Soi 6 and decide to find a lady who is not quite petite but otherwise has a decent body. I sort of find such a girl at Night Wish, and her name is Pum. We sit and it is clear she is in need of bar fine. She speaks English but the accent is so bad I can only make out a fraction of the words. She wants to play connect 4 and, of course, her mastery of the game is far beyond mine. She can think steps ahead and I can barely even see past the next move. I ask about fees and get confused because of the English. I first I thought she said the BF was 1200 and her fee was 3,000! I said yikes, for ST? Then I think I hear that her fee is 800 and other stuff. A bit later I thought she said the TOTAL fee was 1250. I said that was fine, which sounded reasonable. So I paid it. She said she would be back in a few minutes, but it was close to 10 minutes and she had changed clothes. Ummmm. She takes my hand and we leave the bar and Iam confused, but I remembered that Night Wish was not using their upstairs rooms at the moment so I thought we might be going to another NW bar. But she asks if I am hungry and it quickly becomes clear we are leaving the soi! She wants to go to WS! I am asking questions but I can't understand her answer! But I finally understand enough to realize that what I paid for only for the BF only and she expecting 3,000 later! I stopped and said no, and that I needed to take her back. She grabbed hold of me and said no, otherwise she "would be out". I could not understand if she meant she couldn't afford her rent and she needed that 3,000 baht or the club would fire her if I took her back. I said sorry but I was not prepared to fork out over 3000 for when I wanted ST. I again said I needed to take her back and she again pleaded with me. I just said sorry and broke free of her clutch and headed back to the bar for a refund. I can feel sorry for her, but whatever situation she had was not my fault.

Back at the bar they got the manager out to speak with me and by then Pum was back. They talked and then he offered me the regular ST rate of 1400 (her fee and the bar fee). I said that would be find provided she would have a good attitude. He said she would, so I paid the additional amount. She did have a good attitude. I guess it is true they are not using the upstairs rooms, but for this case they made an exception for me, so I give credit to them for decent customer relations.

Pum did ok. Maybe an 8 for face, 7 for body and 7 for service. I would not repeat but once was ok. Her voice and accent were quite difficult to understand, which probably lead to the problem, so I can't really fault Pum.

I thought of taking in another lady as what purpose do I have in Pattaya now? Then, I got a message from Secret saying she was with a friend at Stones House on WS. Well, ok. I asked if I could join them. She said it was up to me. So, ok, my not, so I head to WS and find them drinking beers. I said I would buy them what they wanted and, of course, they chose an expensive package of booze, cokes, ice, etc. The roommate offered to pay her share, but I said not, just have fun. And we did have fun. There was plenty of alcohol and I was concerned about two small ladies drinking it all, but they had fun.

The friend (don't know her name), when Secret went to the toilet, told me Secret talked all the time about me, and said I needed to keep trying to get her and to talk to her. Indeed, during the night she would push Secret physically against me and grab my hands and put around Secret. Well, I have experienced this kind of setup before, so I was not simply going to go for it. I have to admit that Secret did not seem to be aware of any game doing on. She did, later in the evening, grind against me a bit during some music, but nothing extensive. I saw no signs from Secret that she wanted anything more from me at all after this. But why did she text me to begin with? Well, she didn't directly ask, but it seemed clear she wanted me there, and I assumed she simply wanted more money or simply to pay for the booze. But I had said, what the heck. This could be more fun than a Soi 6 girl.

Anyway, they got drunk. The friend seems to be holding up well overall, while Secret seems to be plastered, sitting down and stopped drinking after 3 AM to begin a recovery. The friend was actually helping Secret cope, but when Secret stopped drinking, the friend was determined to finish the bottle. The friend even aske me to take care of Secret, so I think the plan may be to drop the friend off, then Secret will come with me to my hotel. But right as the club is starting to close, the friend suddenly becomes nearly unable to walk, she is so wasted. Secret is now better, and we have to escort the friend outside, and it is raining now but at least I brought an umbrella (and I think I hear the friend say something about me and umbrella, like 'see how Jeff brought an umbrella!' though, of course, I don't speak mush Thai so that is a pure guess based on phrasing over the words. We go to the entrance to WS and find two motorbike drivers. They have to help get her on the bike, and then Secret gets on to help hold her on. I get on the other bike to follow them back to their apartment. I figure Secret will stay in their apartment with the friend and I will go to my hotel alone.

It is raining pretty good and the rain is pelting me as we go to their apartment. I have to help take the friend inside, so I at least get to see the apartment. When we arrive outside, the friend cannot stand, and one of drivers literally lifts her up then tosses her over his shoulder in the fireman's rescue, and take her upstairs. I follow along thinking I will proceed to the hotel when the girl is placed in bed. She has a 2nd floor apartment, and it is small. One room with a bathroom. It is relatively modern, but small for two people. But the friend has to [CodeWord134]. We pull her jeans down and get her on the toilet, then when done carry her to the regular full size bed. They girl is babbling with the voice of a little girl. The drivers leave us there, so I don't know what is going to happen with me. The friend starts one of several puking sessions and they ladies definitely needs me to stay to help, to at least get the friend into a setting position to puke so she doesn't drown in her own juices.

Secret asks if I want to sleep, and I say, "yeah, eventually". Secret says they are not allowed to have men, even boyfriends, in the room but never asks me to leave. Eventually the friend goes to sleep and we move her to the side of the bed that is up against the wall. Secret takes a shower and comes out in her PJs and asks if I want a shower. Well, rain made me sticky so yeah, I did. She got me a towel. When I came out she was in the middle of the bed and so I came over and lay next to her. So, here I am, in Secret's apartment in her bed with her roommate, ready to go to sleep. Not quite the ideal 3-way, but whatever!

To review the day, it was crazy. It started with Secret and I done and over, and ended up with me in her own bed for morning-after sex. How is this story going to unfold?