Pattaya Reports

[Turgid]

Honestly, I'm not seeing any amazing looking girls on FFF. Virtually ALL the pictures are heavily processed (apps make this easy these days), and in many you can't even see their faces. It's not entirely fair to compare them with sex workers we see in real life.

So far, I've taken 3-4 FFF girls, and they looked ok, but just on par with ThaiFriendly (or even a bit worse), not exactly the cream of the crop. The process is a bit too cumbersome for me, though, not really appealing. I don't care to throw out a bunch of messages and wait several hours to meet up with whoever would take me.

When I visited Thailand in 2015 I spent most of my time in Nataree. For me they had a great number of young beautiful girls, more than any other establishment. Many of their customers were well off Thai and other Asians, I hardly saw farang when I went there.

[Crocodilexp]

If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.

Honestly, I'm not seeing any amazing looking girls on FFF. Virtually ALL the pictures are heavily processed (apps make this easy these days), and in many you can't even see their faces. It's not entirely fair to compare them with sex workers we see in real life.

So far, I've taken 3-4 FFF girls, and they looked ok, but just on par with ThaiFriendly (or even a bit worse), not exactly the cream of the crop. The process is a bit too cumbersome for me, though, not really appealing. I don't care to throw out a bunch of messages and wait several hours to meet up with whoever would take me.

[Banana Boi]

If you can speak Thai you can easily find the spas and the model and sideliner websites. They're not hidden.

It's not a matter of IF I can find other alternative sites rather I don't look. If someone posts a site on here I may check it out but I don't Google looking for other sites. There are many other English sites especially a very well known big one for Pattaya that I barely read and that site has way more real reviews and expats than this site which is mainly tourists who either never have been to Thailand and pretend to have been or go to Thailand once or twice a year and think they know it all.

[Paolo99]

You might also learn what Thai people think of foreigners if you listen closely enough.

Be respectfull and behave well and they'll be respectfull with foreigners also.

When you see some foreigners collecting plastic bottles in garbage for years in Pattaya it doesn't surprise me when some Thais put most foreigners in the same category you stated in your earlier post: the falang ki nok.

[Rick Rock]

Yep. If you plan on being in Thailand often or for an extended period, learn to speak Thai. It impresses the sh1t out of girls and it's very funny listening to Thai girls bad mouth their Farang customers in Thai right in front of them. I had a ugly short haired girl at Palace say bad things about me in Thai thinking I didn't understand her. I yelled back at her in Thai and she ran away in shame. Also had a Soi 6 girl say stuff to me in Thai. Called over the manager and he chewed her out right in front of me. Also have girls talk in Thai saying I'm cute. I just sit back and smile not letting these girls know I understand them.

You might also learn what Thai people think of foreigners if you listen closely enough.

[Rick Rock]

Can you name some of the spas that are mostly for Thais? Which sites are these? I can speak Thai so I can get in to many places that other Farang are unable to get in to.

If you can speak Thai you can easily find the spas and the model and sideliner websites. They're not hidden.

[Rick Rock]

Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?

What hassle? Even the ones who work in Pattaya for 10 years can barely put together a sentence in English.

The fact is most people in Thailand do not like foreigners. Especially farang ki nok.

Another is that many women who work with Thais make more money. Yes you've read that right.

It seems a lot of western people really have no idea what goes on outside of their holiday beach resorts. There is wealth in Southeast Asia that could make your head spin around on your shoulders.

[Banana Boi]

Alcohol? Shit I see all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris that roll through Pattaya from Bangkok on the weekends. And they cost twice as much in Thailand as they do in other places due to import taxes.

Why I never bought a car in Thailand. Two years ago I wanted a simple BMW 3 Series but it was well over 3 million baht (100k+ USD). This wasn't even a M Series! Crazy. I heard import taxes have gone up even more since then. I was considering importing a used car from Hong Kong or Malaysia but Thailand nuked the ability for me to do that with a ban of importing cars. Car choices are very limited in Thailand. I can't even get most of the cars I would consider as a proper option. Sorry I'm just not a Camry or Civic type of guy.

[Rocko20]

If you have a look at FFF and other websites directed towards Thai men, then you will see gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues. And the prices are usually between 1500 and 2 k. So I'd say it's not a myth.

Every country has women who would never date or marry foreigners, including western countries. But the notion that the "girls are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" is not true.

Many of the women in those Thai catered places in Pattaya (disco called Bone), still work in go-gos catered to foreign men or tourists and still date and hook with foreign men or tourists. Money is still money. Go to Sensations or Whatsup ago-go, some are are beautiful Thai women (who look Chinese or Korean) that either charge premium, don't do bar fines, or women you will never ever see in insomnia or any foreign disco, but they still work in a foreign go-go venue.

You don't move to Pattaya from Udon Thani or Isaan to avoid foreigners, you move there to make money. And these "no date falang" women do work at foreign venues (go-gos). They just don't hangout at foreign venues (discos).

[Mr Enternational]

Don't assume all Thai men are poor. Lots of dirty money floating around. You should see the alcohol that these Thai guys consume.

Alcohol? Shit I see all the Lamborghinis and Ferraris that roll through Pattaya from Bangkok on the weekends. And they cost twice as much in Thailand as they do in other places due to import taxes.

[Goatscrot]

Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?

Fin Fin is a freelance site. So, not a place. As other posters have stated, some feel more comfortable with Thai men and want to avoid the stigma of going with foreign guys.

[Danny Duck]

Can you name some of the spas that are mostly for Thais? I can speak Thai so I can get in to many places that other Farang are unable to get in to.

Yep. If you plan on being in Thailand often or for an extended period, learn to speak Thai. It impresses the sh1t out of girls and it's very funny listening to Thai girls bad mouth their Farang customers in Thai right in front of them. I had a ugly short haired girl at Palace say bad things about me in Thai thinking I didn't understand her. I yelled back at her in Thai and she ran away in shame. Also had a Soi 6 girl say stuff to me in Thai. Called over the manager and he chewed her out right in front of me. Also have girls talk in Thai saying I'm cute. I just sit back and smile not letting these girls know I understand them.

I've been to a few Pretty Spas. Never ever once did I see a girl who would qualify as a top Rainbow girl.

[Banana Boi]

Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?

Many have very limited or near no English. These are the girls who just arrived in Pattaya. Others simply just don't like Farang, plain and simple.

Don't assume all Thai men are poor. Lots of dirty money floating around. You should see the alcohol that these Thai guys consume. It's often bottle service with multiple girls. I know many Farang who will milk a beer for an hour and refuse to buy lady drinks.

[Goferring]

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Not all girls want to work in bars. Some Thai places for wealthy locals are expensive.

Not all girls get a choice. Debt bondage and repaying Dad's drugs / gambling debts feature highly.

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[Nounce]

Which sites are these?

That must be Fin Fan Fan. The other web site that I use is for Kapoo clubs but they are not cheaper.

Why would "gals that are way better looking than what you get in farang venues" work in Thai places for less money? Is it the language hassle or just not wanting to do farangs?

Not all girls want to work in bars. Some Thai places for wealthy locals are expensive.