Pattaya Reports

[Bunky]

What options do I have to travel from BKK to Pattaya? Buses / shuttles? Taxis? Planning on arriving into BKK but will spend some time in Pattaya. How does it compare as far as services and women to BKK?

The best way to get from BKK to Pattaya is to hitchhike. Once you clear customs, go up to the level where departing passengers are dropped off. Traffic is one way. Walk to the very end of the sidewalk, where the cars exit the airport. Stand on the side of the road and raise your left hand over your head, like you are a student in class seeking the teacher's attention. Using two fingers only, make a rapid twirling motion with your raised hand. This is a local custom that signals you are looking for a ride to Pattaya. Once a car stops tell the driver Khuṇ x̂wn la ng, which means "peace be upon you; I need a ride to Pattaya." About halfway to Pattaya, the driver will stop at a plaza that contains a 7-11 and several shops. You are expected to buy him a case of beer.

As for how Pattaya compares to Bangkok, you are wise to ask because I don't think that topic has ever come up before. My last trip was before COVID, but with that caveat I can assure you that Pattaya is very much better, especially the girls you will find on Soi 6/1. (Not Soi 6. Soi 6/1.) If you go with the girls on Soi 6/1 I think you will definitely be surprised.

[LookingLooking]

What actually happens if she fails. Is the customer counted as a close contact with quarantine obligation?

According to Thai authorities now, close contacts do not have to be quarantined unless they tested positive as well.

[TourduMonde]

I had a so-called non-pro girl from BKK stay with me a few nights (different hotel though) and she mentioned there had been some altercation with a gay member of the hotel staff about taking an ATK, but it ended up she didn't have to. So my suggestion is just be and look confident and it will mostly be fine. The automatic temp checks are everywhere, if the hotel has one just pre-check her temp at 7-11 or something if worried that your barfine is too hot.

What actually happens if she fails. Is the customer counted as a close contact with quarantine obligation?

[Margaya]

The world famous coco bar. The world's longest freelancer pick up street. The beach road. Are the girls back?

It won't be anywhere closer to what it used to be pre covid but I am hoping that some girls are beginning to line up in the evenings. Can someone please let me know how many are lining up. Are we back to 25% of pre covid glory?

[Pute Nut]

What options do I have to travel from BKK to Pattaya?

Buses / shuttles?

Taxis?

Planning on arriving into BKK but will spend some time in Pattaya. How does it compare as far as services and women to BKK?

Thank advance and looking forward to seeing what Pattaya is all about.

If you arrive into BKK I assume you do your Test & Go PCR test at a BKK hotel? When you're good you can take a bus or van from Ekkamai bus terminal (BTS Station Ekkamai, there's OK signage). Buses are about 119 baht and vans 140. Vans can drop you in central Pattaya (at the main road) but may take longer due to many stops / avoiding tolls.

Taxi Pattaya to BKK is 1200, BKK cabbies will probably ask much more, just guessing. I'd take Airport Link to BKK airport and try catch an empty, homebound Pattaya taxi at departures, they will be OK with maybe 900, surely 1000 (99% are empty on return). Have no idea how many they are now post covid. There are buses from Suvarnabhumi as well, daytime operation mostly these days.

[Gabriel071]

What options do I have to travel from BKK to Pattaya?

Buses / shuttles?

Taxis?

Planning on arriving into BKK but will spend some time in Pattaya. How does it compare as far as services and women to BKK?

Thank advance and looking forward to seeing what Pattaya is all about.

[Pute Nut]

Nice, last thing I'd want is reception asking to take the girl's temperature and rapid ATK test before going to your room.

I had a so-called non-pro girl from BKK stay with me a few nights (different hotel though) and she mentioned there had been some altercation with a gay member of the hotel staff about taking an ATK, but it ended up she didn't have to. So my suggestion is just be and look confident and it will mostly be fine. The automatic temp checks are everywhere, if the hotel has one just pre-check her temp at 7-11 or something if worried that your barfine is too hot.

[T Chizzle]

Thailand discriminates based on your appearance more than any place I've ever visited. It's just part of life in Thailand.

This would be my opinion as well. Thailand is a very superficial place to visit. Land of Smiles could very well be Land of Fake Smiles. But YearOfMonk makes good points on how to try to mitigate these discriminatory encounters. If you have the appearance that you may be someone of importance, or appear to be wealthy, then your odds for overcoming those discriminatory perceptions should increase. Not saying that it'll totally eliminate those types of encounters. It's unfortunate that discrimination based solely on appearances or stereotypes exists. Personally, if I was turned away by any business based on foolish discrimination, then I'd just move on. Nowadays, there are plenty of other places to visit in Pattaya to have an enjoyable time. Personally, I would hang out around the Tree Town and LK Metro areas for nightlife entertainment. Except for a handful of places open, Walking Street is pretty much dead.

[HorseTrader]

Sorry to hear about your experience but as an Indian myself, I must concede that a part of the blame lies with us Indians as well. For every monger like you or me, who burns money at gogo's or ringing bell's at bars while hopping across them & so on, there are (relatively wealthy) Indians whom I've seen haggling with street hookers for a meagre amount of money. At times, they haggle with WG's to allow a group of obese men (often 2-3 or 4) have sex with a single girl, so that the deal becomes lucrative & some money can be saved. Such behaviour doesn't go unnoticed & then we get stereotyped as being super cheap charlies who won't spend money. One Thai girl with whom I was a regular told me that she & her friends always make it a point to charge money upfront if the client happens to be an Indian, as she had a bad experience where the guy didn't pay her the agreed amount after the deed. She was embarrassed when I told her that I have my roots in India as well. Personally speaking, I've never experienced discrimination while being in LOS, except once when a moto bike guy quoted me 100 THB for a drop from my hotel to Terminal 21 (approx 2 KM distance). I told him it's not the going rate as I regularly pay less for the same ride, & he taunted me by saying that Indians often walk across Pattaya & suggested that if I would walk to T21, I'd save a lot of money. I brushed it off as another moto bike guy approached me & quoted usual rates & off we went.

Coming to how one can mitigate it, so I'd suggest that try & dress well. Avoid body odour, remain well groomed, carry yourself with confidence & most importantly, avoid being in large groups as that freaks out most TG's. If you feel that you're being overcharged, simply walk away & look for whatever rocks your boat instead of haggling. I've always been a lone wolf in Thailand & never have I been discriminated on the basis of my skin / ethnicity. In fact, I am still mates with most of the girls I met & I made some great friends with some of the guys as well, who were my drink mates during my stay.

Just my 3 cents worth.

Thailand discriminates based on your appearance more than any place I've ever visited. It's just part of life in Thailand.

I maintain friendly contact with a number of Thai non-P4P friends including workers at hotels, restaurants, and no sex massage shops. The things written by YearOfMonk are 100% consistent with what I'm told by those Thai people. The biggest complaints come from hotel staff because the rooms are left smelling bad with missing items, no tips, and overly aggressive India people at the breakfast buffet and crowded elevator lobby. The restaurant and massage people complain of body odor and no tips.

If you are Indian or appear Indian, YearOfMonk has some good suggestions to make your Thailand visit more enjoyable.

[LookingLooking]

Sorry to hear about your experience but as an Indian myself, I must concede that a part of the blame lies with us Indians as well. For every monger like you or me, who burns money at gogo's or ringing bell's at bars while hopping across them & so on, there are (relatively wealthy) Indians whom I've seen haggling with street hookers for a meagre amount of money. At times, they haggle with WG's to allow a group of obese men (often 2-3 or 4) have sex with a single girl, so that the deal becomes lucrative & some money can be saved. Such behaviour doesn't go unnoticed & then we get stereotyped as being super cheap charlies who won't spend money. One Thai girl with whom I was a regular told me that she & her friends always make it a point to charge money upfront if the client happens to be an Indian, as she had a bad experience where the guy didn't pay her the agreed amount after the deed. She was embarrassed when I told her that I have my roots in India as well. Personally speaking, I've never experienced discrimination while being in LOS, except once when a moto bike guy quoted me 100 THB for a drop from my hotel to Terminal 21 (approx 2 KM distance). I told him it's not the going rate as I regularly pay less for the same ride, & he taunted me by saying that Indians often walk across Pattaya & suggested that if I would walk to T21, I'd save a lot of money. I brushed it off as another moto bike guy approached me & quoted usual rates & off we went..

You are absolutely right about this.

Majority of Indians often haggle on everything for a meagre amount of money. There were more cases of them refusing to pay the agreed amount after the deed even. 1 case goes like: The guy agreed 1000 baht for ST. After the deed is done, he asked for 50% discount and says he'll just pay 500 baht.

In another case, group of Indian tourist walk into a massage parlour. They haggle for half the quoted price. After they got the price they agreed on, they asked to see the girl naked first. Yeah 3-4 guys sampling on 1 selected girl naked. When they've enjoyed the view, they walked out of the place saying the deal is no good and refused to pay a single baht after having enjoyed someone who was paraded to them naked and some drinks. In return, these massage parlours mark up they normal prices by 50% as they'll be expecting the usual haggling from Indian tourists.

Its so bad that more and more people just avoid doing business with them altogether. The meagre amount of money they offer isn't even worth the time and effort to haggle with them.

Yes in all cases, not everyone is the same. But people everywhere do like to generalize or stereotype races and that's really normal as its how humans think and how the world works.

Of course there will be shops everywhere that will make an exception to such behavior. You just have to find it.

[Explorer8939]

I spent yesterday drinking with Thai ladies. They had some interesting stories:

One lady came to my condo to drink wine. We finished three bottles and got hammered. I don't remember paying her when she left, actually, I don't remember her leaving.

She has a long time customer who gives her big money, but doesn't want to see her every day. He complains that she wants to fuck too much. Last week, he gave her 200,000 baht to go home and fix her house.

During the day, I bought drinks for a bargirl. Her story was she popped out a kid when she was 17. The problem was that her Thai boyfriend was younger, much younger. So, he was not responsible for the baby. So, she works bar.

[Explorer8939]

I went there yesterday and yes they still insist on ATK on the spot. Nice to have you back BTW.

Normally I would avoid a place that requires an ATK, but tonight I am going out with a factory girl, and there is some chance she is Covid+, so maybe I will go to Windmill.

[OlderMan4U]

FWIW I just walked a ST past reception and no questions asked. I don't do the ID thing if it's not enforced. She claimed to be covid free lol..

Nice, last thing I'd want is reception asking to take the girl's temperature and rapid ATK test before going to your room.

[Pute Nut]

I am not seeing a lot of Thai customers in bars, just enough to be concerned.

I've seen bars in Soi Pothole with mainly Thai guys hanging out and several in the new Treetown gravel area, for instance. Anecdotal maybe, yes, but looks like a game changer to me.

[Bbdbbd]

……….. What are you doing different, if anything, that has made you find a better stride?

Started using TF + Line + Tinder, something I didn't use a lot before. Even when I did, I just stopped responding to profiles that were not obviously and outwardly a hooker. That is now proved wrong.

P.S. Combo not working as well in BKK as it was in Phuket / Pattaya.

BBD.