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  1. #32804
    Some people here will be disappointed, but I instructed a lady last night to put a condom on me before sex. These ladies have seen too many customers to take a chance.

  2. #32803

    "Go with the flow" is fine, unless...

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophus  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for providing graphic reports with the girls' age (young), height (petite) and weight (light). Specifics on foot size (small), hip (narrow), breast (small), vagina (hairless), head (large), hair (long) and nails (natural) are just as much appreciated. And how you came in or on them, all make for good reading. Keep the reports coming. We envy you. Going with the flow is often the right advice. Many girls are annoyed by condoms or by any type of preparation and can be swayed while hot and horny. Some negotiate a little extra mid in sex play for bareback penetration and it can be horny as hell seeing hem give way for 15 dollars or so. When they ask me, what about you cumming in me, I often reply, I will cum in your face and hair, sweety, don't worry. That resolves the issue and makes the facial an operation desirable to the young bird. Last year after unleashing my sexual energy on a petite young cambo girl bareback, I switched to her anus. She was astonished, crossed her legs so I could have my way, gave a precious strained look for a minute or so and then eased over in orgasmic blizz. Would not have happened by discussing it upfront. When the girls are teenagers, 18 or 19 why, amateurs, semis or new to this line of work, the risk of STD is low. I facialled her anyway. And she smiled.
    "Go with the flow and see what happens in the room" is fine as long as you can still get some P4P value out of an experience where no sexual performance and finish is possible wearing a condom for those 10%, 20%, 50% or whatever percentage of times the "go with the flow" method leads directly to the girl still refusing to go bareback. I am talking about those of us where "Must wear condom" is the same as saying "There will be no sex for you at this time." Yes, I know a BBBJ+CIM is still a possible option, but only if the girl agrees to it and can and wants to be minimally competent at it. And, sorry, handjobs are not ever going to be a fallback position for me for any amount of money. Or even for free for that matter. And I consider pulling out of anything to "cum on" something to be a handjob at best (if she does the finishing) and masturbation at worst (if I do the finishing).

    Consequently, mentioning it, discussing it or outright negotiating for bareback upfront before I take the girl from her bar, club, stroll or meet the dating site P4P girl is by far the better option if having sex and cumming during the planned session matters to me.

    Then again, the 3 simple criteria I mentioned previously for the girl to be attractive, sober and for us to have the session by about 9-10PM, already eliminated me from most of the "go with the flow" contest during normal times. lol. I suspect trying to achieve any 2 of those three criteria time and time again would have messed up a lot of self-claimed high percentage rates of getting BBFS+CIP using the "go with the flow" method in the Thai P4P scene.

  3. #32802
    Last night I had 2 ladies who got smashed and were doing naked twerking. I am getting burned out from fucking, so it was okay to just sit back and watch.

    Some general observations:

    I set up some stage lights at my place, and set them to change colors while sound activated. So, it's a thing for the ladies to clap to change colors. If I forget to turn on the stage lights, they let me know.

    Invariably if I give a lady a chance to come over in the early afternoon or at night, they want to come at night. But, I try to schedule the ladies with boyfriends to come in the day.

    Sometimes I catch one lady giving instructions to the other, mostly telling them to give blowjobs. I don't know what that's about.

    I do have ladies come over just to fuck. One of them gives me a massage just before a quickie. She is also a bit high maintenance in terms of messages, she sends me messages early in the morning and at night. It's kind of weird because she has a girlfriend.

    In general, I don't give any instructions to the ladies who come in pairs, which makes it more fun when they get randy. I don't know if they are horny, pretending to be horny, or maybe pretending to be horny makes them horny.

    Covid is really hitting hard, so I may have to limit ladies to those who live together. Yeah, I know every lady goes out with customers who could be Covid positive.

  4. #32801

    Barebacking

    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Day 12 -.

    On the subject of bareback, most of my encounters here have been. (I think I've got through about 10 condoms in a month, most of them with one girl in Phuket, some in massage shops and with a couple of pro pros.) Quite a lot of the girls haven't even brought them up, just let me enter. Memorably, PunkySpinner from the other day specifying 'with condom' in text, then putting me inside her bareback at her own volition. The ones that have mentioned it pretty much took the tiniest nudge 'I not like' to forget about them, even ones that specify it in Line conversation. 75% of the bareback has been CIP / or with CIP not discussed (and therefore assumed to be OK), though on a few instances I have pulled out to cum elsewhere. I've tried with a few girls to negotiate bareback upfront and got point blank refusals, so I'm very much in the 'go with the flow' camp. YMMV. I'm here in pretty lean times, the girls are hurting for money.
    Thanks for providing graphic reports with the girls' age (young), height (petite) and weight (light). Specifics on foot size (small), hip (narrow), breast (small), vagina (hairless), head (large), hair (long) and nails (natural) are just as much appreciated. And how you came in or on them, all make for good reading. Keep the reports coming. We envy you. Going with the flow is often the right advice. Many girls are annoyed by condoms or by any type of preparation and can be swayed while hot and horny. Some negotiate a little extra mid in sex play for bareback penetration and it can be horny as hell seeing hem give way for 15 dollars or so. When they ask me, what about you cumming in me, I often reply, I will cum in your face and hair, sweety, don't worry. That resolves the issue and makes the facial an operation desirable to the young bird. Last year after unleashing my sexual energy on a petite young cambo girl bareback, I switched to her anus. She was astonished, crossed her legs so I could have my way, gave a precious strained look for a minute or so and then eased over in orgasmic blizz. Would not have happened by discussing it upfront. When the girls are teenagers, 18 or 19 why, amateurs, semis or new to this line of work, the risk of STD is low. I facialled her anyway. And she smiled.

  5. #32800
    One of my regulars asked me to have her younger sister over, so I agreed. But I had no idea who the younger sister would bring.

    I hit the jackpot, the sister brought along a silicon enhanced hottie from Soi 6. I have seen her on Livestream before, never in the flesh. Wow, wow, wow.

    After a few drinks, she was giving me naked lap dances, while I fingerfucked the other lady. And then I switched them off, got BJs, licked pussies, big fun.

    And then I ushered them out, 2 ladies coming soon for the next shift.

  6. #32799
    Day 12 -.

    Frustrating as fuck day. Three girls flake on me (including the Flasher from yesterday), there's hardly any freelancers around. Response rate on TF and Line is absurdly low, a sure thing from MonkeyPaw has her period. Finally, by about 7:30 pm (an hour and a half to go for curfew), Miss Long and Lean's pimp responds and she arrives in about 15 minutes. I'm tired, semi-drunk and annoyed, so it isn't a great session, anal is off the cards (I sore), but at least I cum in her mouth this time.

    MonkeyPaw reckons it's the Buddhist holidays causing my issues.

    Leaving for BKK about 7/8 pm tonight, so I've got chance (and just enough energy, it's been a long trip), for one last girl. Miss Flasher from yesterday is all apologetic (My boyfriend not leave me alone all day, blah blah blah), sending me pictures and videos. She does a little 'sexy schoolgirl' act that I'm finding intriguing. Very few of the girls have been actually raunchy, just sweet and GFE. Might just be the thing I'm needing. Date re-scheduled for today at 2 pm but I'm doubtful.

    A couple of other TF prospects. And if all else fails, I'm going to hit up a massage shop.

    On the subject of bareback, most of my encounters here have been. (I think I've got through about 10 condoms in a month, most of them with one girl in Phuket, some in massage shops and with a couple of pro pros.) Quite a lot of the girls haven't even brought them up, just let me enter. Memorably, PunkySpinner from the other day specifying 'with condom' in text, then putting me inside her bareback at her own volition. The ones that have mentioned it pretty much took the tiniest nudge 'I not like' to forget about them, even ones that specify it in Line conversation. 75% of the bareback has been CIP / or with CIP not discussed (and therefore assumed to be OK), though on a few instances I have pulled out to cum elsewhere.

    I've tried with a few girls to negotiate bareback upfront and got point blank refusals, so I'm very much in the 'go with the flow' camp. YMMV. I'm here in pretty lean times, the girls are hurting for money.

  7. #32798

    Context matters

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdb013  [View Original Post]
    Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem.
    I skimmed your posts, it looks like you use SA and other online options quite a bit. I don't doubt your post, but I think if you were mongering face 2 face, and tried to find BB in Bogota's Santa Fe Clubs, Clubs in Chapinero, and Casa's on both Mde and Bogota you would have a much different result.

    That's what's lost in this discussion- a monger will say something like "well actually I have no problem with getting BBBJ at all in x, y, z location", but the thing they leave out is that its with girls they've known a long time and is something they've cultivated or some other piece of important context. Once this extra info is given, I have no reason to doubt the claim- but if you leave out the supporting details and don't provide the frame, the average guy reading this will be thinking they can just land in SF in Bogota, drop in to Fiebre, Atunes, Venus and expect to receive anything raw with a little bit of convincing- which is just not true.

    I'm only a sample size of one, but in SF Bogota, that method worked about 1/7 times and a substantial propina was expected. On the flipside, half my sessions in Thailand, most of them in Cambodia, and just about all in the Philippines were either BBJ, or BBFS.

  8. #32797
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Did you hit on the Russian lady? I know I would after banging just Thais all the time. A change can boost libido.
    She was pretty clearly in a hurry to get out after coming down the elevator, and by the time I realized who she was, she was gone.

    The main point is that there are still Russian hookers in Pattaya, the question is how to find them.

  9. #32796

    That is my style in Bkk

    Quote Originally Posted by Bdb013  [View Original Post]
    I've been to Pattaya, Chaingmai, BKK, never had much luck with BB service. Also traveled a good bit to other places. The last few years, I've started negotiating BB before the date is set up. I would say at least 80% agreed to it before the date. Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. In Mexico, BB service no problem. Even in Cuba, no problem. I convince them I have had a vasectomy and that I am clean. I have had a few ask for a text to prove no STD's and I agreed to provide, but never had to. They ultimately would tell me that they trust me.

    Headed back to Guadalajara in August. Already have several dates lined up. BB service is already agreed to.
    Interesting that what does not work for you in Thailand but does work for you in so many other places is exactly what has for years worked for me in Bangkok; simply negotiate an upfront agreement for BB before taking or meeting the girl.

    However, nether negotiating upfront, "going with the flow and seeing what happens in the room", offering more money, praying or anything else I am willing to do (I want to fuck atractive, sober women usually in the evening soon after dinnertime, say about 9-10 pm) worked very well for me in Pattaya.

    Different strokes for different folks, as they say.

  10. #32795
    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    ...I saw a Russian hooker in the building today. I hadn't considered they would still be around.
    Did you hit on the Russian lady? I know I would after banging just Thais all the time. A change can boost libido.

  11. #32794
    I started off with a massage, but the lady spent 30 minutes on my prostate and balls. After she left, it felt like I had come. Weird.

    But, I had 2 ladies come over after. Nothing really developed, they didn't click, and so they left a bit early.

    Tomorrow will be pretty much the same, which is probably good for me, I could use a rest. I don't expect much until Wednesday when I have 2 ladies come who are bi-curious, for real.

    Meanwhile, new cases are approaching 1,000 for Chonburi so I don't know how much longer I can buy alcohol.

  12. #32793
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefeu  [View Original Post]
    First, let me start by saying that I have taken 25+ trips to Colombia since 2013, mostly to Medellin plus a few trips to Cartagena. I also speak decent Spanish. In addition, I met a few expats there over the years, and received quite a few hints and intel on particular girls. I view this as part of "work at it".

    Over the years, I developed a stable of girls among the ones that I liked. I made it clear to them of my preference for bb, but I never insisted on it. Eventually, after a few sessions all of them agreed to it, except one. I now have about 8 girls in my harem, and 7 out of 8 are bb with no condition. Some of them at first requested cov, but after a few sessions they started to believe my story about my vasectomy, which I did many years ago. In other words, I managed to develop trust with the girls. It also helps that I am fairly generous with tips.

    I use pretty much the same methods in SEA, except that I only travel there once a year, due to the long travel duration and the changes in time zones. I never attempted to develop a stable in SEA because I cannot get there often enough. I am still pleased with my bb results there.
    I've been to Pattaya, Chaingmai, BKK, never had much luck with BB service. Also traveled a good bit to other places. The last few years, I've started negotiating BB before the date is set up. I would say at least 80% agreed to it before the date. Been to Mde and Bogota several times, BB service no problem. In Mexico, BB service no problem. Even in Cuba, no problem. I convince them I have had a vasectomy and that I am clean. I have had a few ask for a text to prove no STD's and I agreed to provide, but never had to. They ultimately would tell me that they trust me.

    Headed back to Guadalajara in August. Already have several dates lined up. BB service is already agreed to.

  13. #32792
    Slow day yesterday. I had a massage lady come over for massage plus fuck in the morning.

    Then 2 bargirls came over in the afternoon. After pestering me for days to come over, they showed up late, and then announced they had to leave early. One kept checking her cellphone. So, I just wasn't in the mood to deal with them, and dispatched them early. I will put them at the bottom of the queue.

    Today, I have a massage lady who gives me a long prostate massage, and then two bargirls. But one is a seasoned pro with many customers, so she is pretty much not going to do anything. My experience is that bargirls with customers or Thai boyfriends aren't that much fun. So they go on the bottom of the queue. But, there are only 7 days in the week, and the queue is long.

    I saw a Russian hooker in the building today. I hadn't considered they would still be around.

  14. #32791

    Will be glad to

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I have heard it both ways from seasoned mongers who have been in and are currently in Columbia.

    Perhaps it would be helpful if Lefeu elaborated on what he means by "work at it" and "put in some effort" in order to get BBFS+CIP with P4P girls there. I would be interested too, since I have not mongered in Columbia yet.

    It might very well apply to all destinations, including Thailand.
    First, let me start by saying that I have taken 25+ trips to Colombia since 2013, mostly to Medellin plus a few trips to Cartagena. I also speak decent Spanish. In addition, I met a few expats there over the years, and received quite a few hints and intel on particular girls. I view this as part of "work at it".

    Over the years, I developed a stable of girls among the ones that I liked. I made it clear to them of my preference for bb, but I never insisted on it. Eventually, after a few sessions all of them agreed to it, except one. I now have about 8 girls in my harem, and 7 out of 8 are bb with no condition. Some of them at first requested cov, but after a few sessions they started to believe my story about my vasectomy, which I did many years ago. In other words, I managed to develop trust with the girls. It also helps that I am fairly generous with tips.

    I use pretty much the same methods in SEA, except that I only travel there once a year, due to the long travel duration and the changes in time zones. I never attempted to develop a stable in SEA because I cannot get there often enough. I am still pleased with my bb results there.

  15. #32790
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Shotgun message girls on Line and ThaiFriendly. These girls all sleep late and I'm not getting many replies, or if I am they're all talking about coming in the afternoon. Nope, I WANT NOW. I become less picky and just tell the first girl that says '30 minutes' to come over. She's only been on TF for 10 days, her profile says 18. Stats are 5'1, 95 lbs. I got her Line but screened her out because she wouldn't videochat, couldn't get any pictures out of her. And the ones on her TF profile and Line were just fully clothed shots. Pretty enough though.

    She arrives promptly within 30 minutes and I meet her in the lobby. Wearing a little croptop and some short shorts. From what I can see, I'm impressed! Get her up to the room, get the face mask off and she's cute. And has braces. She's shy, very smiley and doesn't speak much English. Ask to see her ID and she turned 18 two months ago. A teeny-bit of acne. But that's what your get for fucking teenagers.

    Ok, this worked out very well for a last minute 'See who I can get over right now' thing. It's a curious phenomenon, but I've noticed that girls who's pictures I'm really into turn out to be a disappointment. And girl's who have very few pictures / pictures I'm not that into turn out to be pleasant surprise when they turn up.
    Day 11.

    Invited this girl over again. (Same picture attached. I really struggle to 'bring myself out of the moment' and take pictures. And she's that shy she'd probably Sahara desert on me).

    She arrives this time dressed in a really cute summer dress with some incongruously sexy leopard skin boyshorts underneath. A little flirting and talking on the couch (she barely speaks a word of English, but just jabbers away cutely.) Drag her into the shower for some soapy fun. She's that shy she's giggling away while I soap up and wash her down. After, we both brush our teeth and she can't stop giggling every time we make eye contact in the mirror.

    On to the bed, divest her of her towel, get to some really sweet DFK and teasing her. Manage to go down on her this time, but she's just giggly. Some more DFK and I break out the lube (she's tiny and tight, she needs it.) Spend some time fingering her and get her warmed up. She spends ages examining the lube (just a big tube of Standard KY), like she's never seen it before. She definitely hasn't been in the game long. I would hope, given her age.

    Roll on top for some more kissing, rubbing against her. She says, 'Condom. ' I say, 'We not last time. Can if want?' She doesn't say anything, so I just enter her. Slow screw in missionary, then I use my arm to bend her leg up. Lots of DFK and neck nibblin'. I can feel myself cumming too quickly, so I pull her on top of me for cowgirl. She seems to be getting into it. She's making the right noises, clenching around me and wet, really bouncing on me.

    I need another interlude, so I push her back down on her back again. Legs on my shoulders / biceps and pound away again. Real deep, grindy thrusts which she seems to like, gets all flushed. Don't last long. And in a moment of 'weakness' (she was slightly annoyed at me last time with a CIP finish) I pull out and jizz on her flat little belly. Somehow, I feel 'safer' with a CIP finish. At least the girl will go off and get Plan be. Do these girls not know you can still get pregnant from precum?

    After, she's all smiley and giggly again and we have a cum-fight. She scoops some on her fingertip and tries to put it in my mouth. So I retaliate by pinning her hands down and smearing some on her mouth while she giggles and screams. Weirdly cute.

    After, showers and dress. We sit on the couch while she jabbers away. She's showing me her line conversations with guys who are offering to pay her twice what I have that she hasn't responded to, Yanks and Brits not in Thailand declaring their undying love etc.

    She stayed maybe two hours this time (an hour of bedroom activities, an hour of just jabbering away) then leaves happy with the 1200 thb I give her.

    I haven't really left the condo today, so I'm going to head out for a walk in a little while. Probably return, alone. Tomorrow I have my pre-flight Covid test at the International Hospital (fly early hours on the 28th.).

    19 year old spinner who's pictures I really like the look of and have been bombarding for a response finally responded and gave me her line while I was waiting for the 18 year old cutie to show up. She's very 'pro / porno' in conversation, wanting to come now, saying she needs dick etc. She videocalls me unprompted and she looks like her pictures, lying on her bed in a night t-shirt (seriously, why can't these girls get out of bed?) English is very good, we chat a bit, she asks if I'm alone. Yes. Then she flashes me, lifting up the t-shirt so I can see her entire body. Very, very nice.

    In a message after, she calls me 'Handsome British boy. ' Pretty much every other girl here has guessed I'm a Yank.

    I put her off with some excuse about going to eat and drink with my friend who is going back to the UK tomorrow. Which turns out to be the right call. Inevitably, MonkeyPaw knows her and has fucked her. First time GFE and good, second time 'pro' when she realises you're not going to girlfriend her up.

    Have a date set tomorrow for 1 pm. Clueless newbie Brit (shouldn't be hard) it is, if she shows up. Kind of intrigued by how 'raunchy' she is. If that carries on through to the bedroom, should be a good time.

    Message from Cutie With A Booty of Phuket fame late last night. She sent something, unsent it. I responded with a smilie, then I got 'the story. ' Daughter in the hospital ICU with a serious chest infection, she wants to go home to Buriram to see her. I tell her some options. Nok Air is flying Phuket to Pattaya and from Pattaya to other locations in a couple of days, in a couple of the Facebook Phuket groups I follow, there's Sandboxers organising group taxis to BKK etc. She's responding 'can't wait, need to go now. ' No request for money has been forthcoming and she's 'backed off' a little today, saying her condition is improving.

    I'll be a little sad if I do get a money request (I already have from Punky Tattooed Chick for rent money) as I really liked her. But then, I suppose that's 'the game. ' We fuck them for pocket money and then leave and forget them (I have every intention of deleting Line and my fake Facebook when I leave), they know this and try to milk a little more out of us.
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