Pattaya Reports

[Philosophus]

Hmm. No, my only objections FOR ME in the post you quoted was about "pulling out to CUM ON" whatever. That includes pulling out of her mouth to cum on her face, in her ear, on her tits or out an open window, none of which do I consider an "oral finish or oral ending." Btw, just wondering, do you think those porn actors pull out of their sex partner's pussy or mouth and masturbate a finish onto their girl's stomach, face or tits when they are engaged in a private sexual encounter behind closed doors without a camera rolling in the room to film the "money shot" essentially meant to prove to a porn audience that they finished? I don't think for one minute that is how those porn actors choose to finish in their off camera, personal sexual encounters.

When with a personal lover, I suppose a porn actor CIP or CI anus or let the young girl get them off with her tongue, lips, throat and hands. I was more thinking of enjoying P4 P to the fullest. For me making the young bird submit to me and to put her in her place, to make her sweat and to take her power over me away, meaning to deep throat, skull fuck, penetrate as deep as possible in the tightest orifice possible and to facial her are part of the pleasure. That works better in P4 P than with lovers. 4 hands do more good than 2. A good love girl finds balls, anus, legs or tummy to carress even if the sperm jet is administered by her lover.

[EihTooms]

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I disagree with EihTooms that a good licking and an oral finish are not an acceptable ending. In fact even a well delivered double handed mano job cannot be replicated by masturbating. A lubed finger on your anus can be exhilerating. Most good porn flicks end with a rich facial and hair shot. The whole P4 P biz used to be dominated by oral sex and esp. Oral endings before condoms became available.

Hmm. I am not sure how you got that an "oral finish or oral ending" is not acceptable to me. I have always been in favor of a BBBJ+CIM option where BBFS+CIP is not agreed to by the lady. There are times when I prefer an oral finish or ending over a CIP finish. I will even happily take a girl who agrees upfront to that when she will not agree upfront to a BBFS+CIP. And, yeah, that is when I am fine to "go with the flow" and many a girl has then gotten into it with me enough, gotten horny enough to change her mind about not allowing BBFS+CIP.

I only dismissed BBBJ+CIM as a reliable fall back service in the post you quoted in that saying nothing upfront about either a CIP or a CIM finish means I might find out at crunch time that she isn't going to provide EITHER kind of finish. Or in the case of BBBJ+CIM it turns out she either is in fact or is only pretending to be utterly inept at the act. I have had plenty of sessions go that way when I have not cleared it upfront before I take the girl and, yes, even with girls who were frothing at the mouth crazy horny and soaking the bed with natural pussy lube. LOL.

Unless the money is very little and whether I finish or not this time with this girl is quite unimportant, there is no reason not to clear up one or both kinds of finish with a P4P girl before I take her. It requires no more than one or two sentences of about 7 seconds in length.

No, my only objections FOR ME in the post you quoted was about "pulling out to CUM ON" whatever. That includes pulling out of her mouth to cum on her face, in her ear, on her tits or out an open window, none of which do I consider an "oral finish or oral ending."

Btw, just wondering, do you think those porn actors pull out of their sex partner's pussy or mouth and masturbate a finish onto their girl's stomach, face or tits when they are engaged in a private sexual encounter behind closed doors without a camera rolling in the room to film the "money shot" essentially meant to prove to a porn audience that they finished? I don't think for one minute that is how those porn actors choose to finish in their off camera, personal sexual encounters.

[Philosophus]

"Go with the flow and see what happens in the room" is fine as long as you can still get some P4P value out of an experience where no sexual performance and finish is possible wearing a condom for those 10%, 20%, 50% or whatever percentage of times the "go with the flow" method leads directly to the girl still refusing to go bareback. I am talking about those of us where "Must wear condom" is the same as saying "There will be no sex for you at this time." Yes, I know a BBBJ+CIM is still a possible option, but only if the girl agrees to it and can and wants to be minimally competent at it. And, sorry, handjobs are not ever going to be a fallback position for me for any amount of money. Or even for free for that matter. And I consider pulling out of anything to "cum on" something to be a handjob at best (if she does the finishing) and masturbation at worst (if I do the finishing).

Consequently, mentioning it, discussing it or outright negotiating for bareback upfront before I take the girl from her bar, club, stroll or meet the dating site P4P girl is by far the better option if having sex and cumming during the planned session matters to me.

Then again, the 3 simple criteria I mentioned previously for the girl to be attractive, sober and for us to have the session by about 9-10PM, already eliminated me from most of the "go with the flow" contest during normal times. lol. I suspect trying to achieve any 2 of those three criteria time and time again would have messed up a lot of self-claimed high percentage rates of getting BBFS+CIP using the "go with the flow" method in the Thai P4P scene.

The case for agreeing on things upfront is strong. I meant to plead for flexibility. I meant to say that pleading during play for extras such as BBBJ, BBFS, CIP, CIM, CIF or anilingus is often successful for ridiculously little money. Why? The young girl is horny. The young girl has come to know you and becomes more trusting. Any smart young girl does have a vested interest in getting you off, for men get peaceful in the act. I only go with real pretty, young lookers. I disagree with EihTooms that a good licking and an oral finish are not an acceptable ending. In fact even a well delivered double handed mano job cannot be replicated by masturbating. A lubed finger on your anus can be exhilerating. Most good porn flicks end with a rich facial and hair shot. The whole P4 P biz used to be dominated by oral sex and esp. Oral endings before condoms became available.

[Explorer8939]

We dodged a bullet, no major changes to Covid restrictions were announced.

I had a lady in the early afternoon, she was a bit low energy. The ladies with Thai boyfriends or lots of customers are pretty much like that.

Two ladies later in the day were better, but one was a clock watcher, it was like watching a taxi meter. So I will split them up in the future.

Tomorrow I will take a day off from drinking.

[IHeartIpa]

If alcohol sales are prohibited then it's going to be a long month.

Idk how they are working during this time, but winecheap duty free website is legit and a great place to source booze from. Real stuff 100% (I've ordered for years on and off from them) but not stuff you can resell.

[Explorer8939]

Ha Ha. Your post put a Saturday morning smile on my face.

BTW Exp, just out of curiosity, where are you sourcing your girls from during this current shutdown?

I started off inviting ladies from a bar I frequent. Then friends of those ladies, and then friends of those friends. I use Facebook Messenger to keep in touch, and I don't use Line.

It is a very different vibe than barfining ladies before Covid, they are very eager to please. Of course, they all tell poverty stories, but also complain about lack of sex, if they don't have a boyfriend. Or some complain about crappy sex if they have a boyfriend.

[Mdacoltpk100]

Back in the UK and plotting my next escape!

Day 13:

Take my time packing and finally head to the airport about 7:30 pm.

Thanks for the reports, fun reading them and looks like no animals were harmed in the making of this movie.

Am totally stealing your name filing system, let me know what the royalty fees are.

Cheers.

[Member #4698]

An odd episode: I had 2 ladies come over a few nights ago, and they went at it licking each others' pussies, rolling around my bed, there was screaming so loud I thought the police would come. But the next day, one complained to her friends that she didn't like any of it, she was just working. I heard about that, and asked her if she wanted to change ladies. Nope, in fact, after they come over next time, they are going to sleepover together somewhere.

It's all a mystery to me. I can't hope to understand women. Maybe denial is one way to cope with discovering you're a dyke.

Ha Ha. Your post put a Saturday morning smile on my face.

BTW Exp, just out of curiosity, where are you sourcing your girls from during this current shutdown?

[Explorer8939]

An odd episode: I had 2 ladies come over a few nights ago, and they went at it licking each others' pussies, rolling around my bed, there was screaming so loud I thought the police would come. But the next day, one complained to her friends that she didn't like any of it, she was just working. I heard about that, and asked her if she wanted to change ladies. Nope, in fact, after they come over next time, they are going to sleepover together somewhere.

It's all a mystery to me. I can't hope to understand women. Maybe denial is one way to cope with discovering you're a dyke.

[Explorer8939]

I had an overnighter last night, she stuck around in the AM until my massage lady showed up to give me a serious prostate massage.

Then I had a brief rest until two ladies showed up in the mid afternoon for drinks and sex. There was rolling around on the sofa, they switched off doing BJs, begging me to fuck them, it was kind of tiring having to deal with 2 ladies at once. They left before curfew after I promised to have them back in a few days.

Tomorrow, I have a single lady coming at 11.00 to help me shop for more alcohol, and then 2 ladies later in the day. One of them has an OnlyFans site, I get to have her for 1000 baht for the afternoon.

The rumor is a heavy lockdown is coming. I have no idea how that will impact my activities, one possibility is that I will simply have every lady coming over for Long Time, maybe 2 at a time. If alcohol sales are prohibited then it's going to be a long month.

[HorseTrader]

Back in the UK and plotting my next escape!

Thanks for the month of great reports. It will certainly give you something to think about next time you find yourself bored in the middle of the ocean.

Your trip timing was perfect. With uncontrollable growth in Thai COVID, it may be impossible to repeat that trip for many months or even years. I'm just hoping I can get there before it gets insanely hot in April 2022.

[Turgid]

Some people here will be disappointed, but I instructed a lady last night to put a condom on me before sex.....

Well, that's selfish. What about us readers who want to be titillated by BBFS exploits!

[Explorer8939]

Two sets of ladies today.

The first pair was a silicon enhanced older lady with a Thai boyfriend who has come before. She is a bit reserved, but will play. The other lady was new, a Livestream girl was I have seen in the bar before. After a couple of hours, she was my new best friend, or rather, my dick's new best friend.

The second set were two older ladies who were looking for a hookup, have drinks, make money, fuck each other. Next time, they will probably skip coming to my place and spend the night together. The only issue is they may need a dick in the mix for reasons.

[J Janni]

Back in the UK and plotting my next escape!

Day 13:

Woke up early to sort out all the normal pre-flight bollocks. Last few days have been frustrating with the girls, all the flakes and low response rate. Chatting with MP, he suggested a new strategy. Offer over the odds to get them running to you.

Two girls I was most interested in. Porno Schoolgirl and Punky Spinner. I messaged '2 pm, 2000 baht if you're not late. ' The race of the flakes was on! While waiting for them, I set up dates with more girls - 3 pm, 4 pm, 5 pm.

Porno Schoolgirl took an early lead, messaging me videos and pictures of her getting ready. Punky Spinner responded late, so I thought she was going to be left in the loser's lobby. Porno Schoolgirl threw it away at 1:45 pm with 'I do my makeup, 20 minutes. ' Punky Spinner turned up at 2:07 pm, which I judged close enough to be not late by Thai standards.

She turned up this time with a new hair do (a shorter bob in a different shade of blue), wearing a stretchy button down the back minidress. Straight to the couch for DFK, undressing her. Then I sent her off for a shower (I'd just had one.) She strolled out, nude afterwards and I could see that pretty little pussy had been freshly shaved that morning. Smooth.

On to the bed for more kissing and rolling around and I went down on her. Last time, the oral didn't seem to do much for her (this time it did), getting very wet and her pussy blossoming open like a flower. Got her close, but I don't think she came. Another kiss while I was all grooly with her juices (hot), then into a BBBJ while I fingered her. Stellar, gagging herself on my dick and not complaining when I fucked her face.

Enough of that, into missionary with her legs on my shoulders. BBFS. Hammer away and she was making the right noises, really seeming to enjoy herself. Span her into cowgirl and the girl went to town on me. I think punishing me for how rough I was last time. Really, really bouncing on my dick, grinding her hips into mine while arching her back, moaning and running her hands up herself. Before long, I inevitably cum in her. But she wouldn't stop! Pretty sensitive after I've just come, so I grab her in a bearhug and hold her still. She gets the message.

She just sits on me, while we pant and laugh about how sweaty we both are. She's not making any move to get off of me. And I'm still hard. After maybe five minutes, I let her start going again. She's pretty determined to get herself off on my dick, moving around and adjusting to get the angle 'just right. ' At first for me, it's that post-coital 'bleh, I'm not interested, I just came. ' but then it starts to feel good again. She's back up to full pelt again, bouncing on me (I've got bruise marks on my thighs from her arse.) Feel her clench on me when she cums, staying hilted, but I'm close to cumming again too, so I pushed her back and finish in missionary. Second time in 20-30 minutes I cum in her.

Lie on top of her after, while she strokes my back and peppers me with kisses. Pull out of her (I remembered to put down a towel this time) and we just lie next to eachother, half-dozing. After ten minutes, we get up and shower together.

Go for a smoke, laze around on the couch for a bit (she isn't in a hurry to leave.) Eventually she does, I check my phone. Missed calls and messages from Porno Schoolgirl an hour late, asking if she can come. Which I ignore. I'm exhausted, spent, so I cancel my remaining dates for the day and fall asleep on the couch.

Done. A nice end to my time in Pattaya and I don't feel the need to force anymore action into the day. I'm already plotting on going somewhere else 11/12 August, so it's not like I have to cram everything in before being trapped in the UK for a year.

Wake up about 6, take my time packing and finally head to the airport about 7:30 pm.

[Explorer8939]

Some people here will be disappointed, but I instructed a lady last night to put a condom on me before sex. These ladies have seen too many customers to take a chance.