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  1. #25627
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    I pretty much never pick a girl on soi 6 who doesn't act interested in me first. Today I see a woman, short, maybe 4' 10" and young. I think she said 23. She had nice big boobs for her size that she said were natural. We go up to room and she tells me to take shower by myself. I want her to join me but give in and take shower alone. When I get out of shower she tells me to pay her. I say no, I pay after and she is adamant I pay her then. So I say, no I am going to leave. She says okay pay after. She didn't speak english well but I understood her. Then she goes to take shower and shuts the door. The shower was in the room. I am kind of pissed and think this isn't worth it. So I say I am leaving, I get dressed and leave. She goes out different way and talks to mamasan. I have no idea what she said. Mamasan comes over to me and asks what happened. I say what I said above. Mamasan gives me back my barfine and I leave.

    There are a few good looking younger girls on soi 6, but if they don't act interested in me I leave them be. I am 57 so old enough to be there grandpa, so I understand if they think I am too old. This girl was just kind of hot, short, young and nice tits. She said no baby.

    Maybe someone here can tell me what I need to learn from this experience if anything. I think I handled it okay except for misjudging she didn't want sex if that was the case.
    Hi.

    I think you did the right thing and avoided an even worse experience. Who knows why Thai girls act the way they do and if she keeps that attitude she will experience more walk outs and possibly learn or go back to the farm. I'm 57 and not in good shape and I just returned from 5 days in Pattaya and I didn't get 1 rejection and I had some hot girls in their early 20's every day so don't let her poor attitude put doubt in your mind. It's like if I walk into a gogo and I'm not approached by a girl within 5 minutes of entering I leave. Their problem not mine.

    Enjoy your holiday.

  2. #25626
    Quote Originally Posted by Wimble  [View Original Post]
    That is a real bummer. Happened elsewhere with a full time pro I shared contact. Thought she could take care of herself.
    Hi Wimble.

    You live and learn. I will only share now with guys I have met. Not trying to be argumentative but the girls shouldn't have to know how to look after them selves because even if they are sex workers there should be some respect.

  3. #25625
    For Soi 6, I would have walked after the shower alone line. Too many other similar choices. BTW, you've likely noticed that 57 isn't that old for Pattaya.

  4. #25624
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    Maybe someone here can tell me what I need to learn from this experience if anything. I think I handled it okay except for misjudging she didn't want sex if that was the case.
    In my opinion you don't need to learn nothing, but sure she should learn out to treat the customers and how to work, asking money in advance = scam / starfish for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    I am 57 so old enough to be there grandpa, so I understand if they think I am too old.
    Money has no age, but unfortunately some girls thinking to be a "superstar" and be picky. I have one friend, he is over 50 but looking good, fit body (go to the gym often) dress well, he is a Brasil Lover but for few years he stop to go to Brasil due to the bad exchange rate and safety issue, after few years of Thailand he give up and back to Brasil, why? Because he like to party and drink all night long and pick up freelancers in the disco, but he found the best Ibar / Insomnia girl to be very picky and sometimes they refuse his money (he don't have problem to pay 3. 000 baht and up for LT). In Brasil he pick up stunning young girls, age doesn't matter there (he said) just need money.

  5. #25623

    Problem with a bar girl on soi 6

    I pretty much never pick a girl on soi 6 who doesn't act interested in me first. Today I see a woman, short, maybe 4' 10" and young. I think she said 23. She had nice big boobs for her size that she said were natural. We go up to room and she tells me to take shower by myself. I want her to join me but give in and take shower alone. When I get out of shower she tells me to pay her. I say no, I pay after and she is adamant I pay her then. So I say, no I am going to leave. She says okay pay after. She didn't speak english well but I understood her. Then she goes to take shower and shuts the door. The shower was in the room. I am kind of pissed and think this isn't worth it. So I say I am leaving, I get dressed and leave. She goes out different way and talks to mamasan. I have no idea what she said. Mamasan comes over to me and asks what happened. I say what I said above. Mamasan gives me back my barfine and I leave.

    There are a few good looking younger girls on soi 6, but if they don't act interested in me I leave them be. I am 57 so old enough to be there grandpa, so I understand if they think I am too old. This girl was just kind of hot, short, young and nice tits. She said no baby.

    Maybe someone here can tell me what I need to learn from this experience if anything. I think I handled it okay except for misjudging she didn't want sex if that was the case.

  6. #25622

    Panda agogo

    New gogo on Walking Street. Was Annabelle before. Figured why not. Let's just walk in and out. Pleasantly surprised by over 70 girls. Many familiar faces for those who know the gogo girls around Pattaya. Saw at least one girl from Happy, Baccara, Palace, and Sensations. Not the top girls but a handful are on the prettier side. Lady drinks for models 200 baht. Not sure about regular girls. Place looks like Palace. Same arm band as Sensations. Anyone know if the owners are the same. Definitely worth a visit for gogo guys in town now. Just opened yesterday so who knows if the girls will be there after their 10 day stint.

  7. #25621
    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    She is a model dancer and I've been with her 3 times before. I also wanted to bar fine her again this night. By the way it's 2000 bar fine and short time is up to the girl (3000-8000) for the models at this club, but most don't go with customers. She asked me could I wait until after 2 am,
    Why continue to pay a bar fine when you already know a chick? I have never understood that. If most didn't go with customers there would be no "bar fine" and no "short time up to the girl"... same as maybe a restaurant or dentist office. That is just a way to trick you into paying more because you are thinking you are getting something special.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    One night I asked the short hair girl, let's go have sex. I want to barfine you. She said she can't tonight, but next time is okay. She also said it's very expensive here for a model. I looked her facial expressions and asked her why not tonight? She said she's on her period. I flat out told her. "I'm probably the one customer you shouldn't lie and play around with. I've been more than nice to you. You don't need to come over anymore and ask drinks from me.
    Why do you think this was a game? Women have periods. At the same time, if she would have let you bar fine her and she started bleeding all over your bed then you would have been mad that she didn't tell you. Instead of being vindictive, just ask when is a good day.

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyPaw  [View Original Post]
    Even with this reputation, I'm surprised still at how many girls I have gotten on first try
    Dude. You are aware that these are prostitutes right? They came to Pattaya to fuck foreigners for money. When you start fucking them for free, THAT is the time to be surprised.

  8. #25620
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I don't know about that, but here is his bin from last night for all of you Cheap Charlies.
    I am amazed hat a go go bar would allow someone to run up a 94,000 baht tab. Perhaps he showed them he had the cash but I still would have expected them to settle the bill every 20,000 or so.

  9. #25619
    Quote Originally Posted by Horatio  [View Original Post]
    I went to (maybe) soi LK express. There were a lot of gogo places there. I am not really much for gogo bars. So it wasn't my thing. But there are several there. One was handing out coupon for free first drink.

    ....... I think I might take 10,000 baht and some viagra to soi 6 and go until I wear out.
    10,000 baht is 7 girls on Soi 6. A nice way to end the trip.

    The gogo bar at LK Metro handing out first drink free coupons is The Office. Times are very tough at the LK Metro gogo bars. Most girls have bailed already. LK Metro is mainly beer bars now rather than the few existing gogo bars remaining.

  10. #25618
    Quote Originally Posted by Wimble  [View Original Post]
    Not to stir trouble of take sides, but I do like reading the tale of how Rocky became king of the hill in bargain hunting over ME (sorry ME), even though there were no follow up reports.

    As for the games MP plays, girls play that all the time. Even pros. In a way it is nice to see it come around. I often want to step in tell some of the young guys to dump the girl they are with because of all the manipulative mind games.

    As others pointed out, picture is worth 1000 words. I took a side trip and went to some of the bars mentioned in MP's post. Did not have much time but the cast of characters appear to match some in the pictures. So who knows. It is not really a big deal for me as it is the reading that is more entertaining.
    In these top end Go Go bars, some of these trophy girls, waitstaff, and mamasans play and play hard. They will lie, cheat, and do everything possible to get your money. I've seen them lie to customers about barfine prices, ST rates, LT rates, and inflated bills. So it's actually hilarious to see some of these guys act like these girls are their best friends in Thailand every time I post anything. They are so against me "humiliating" a single top end trophy girl (to which they don't know the reason between me and her) by throwing 15,000 baht to all of the poor girls working there. Or by me, ringing the bell and buying the rest of the girls in the club a drink as well. I'm so cruel in my actions or perhaps it's anything that I say, write, or do? It's very apparent, that some of these guys don't even go to Go Go bars. If they did, they will know that there are always a few girls who think they are too good to catch 20's when they are being rained. There are always a few girls that won't pick up ping pong balls for the same reason. Or perhaps, they know that Monkeypaw is in the house and they aren't allowed.

    Now I don't worry about money too much, but dislike it when they (Go Go bar staff) try to play their games on a "generous" customer like me. I've been more than kind and generous to all of Walking Street. So even now, not many girls try anymore. I catch on too quick. There's a short hair model at Whats Up who has previously sat with me ONLY because she was friends with #401 Fern at Palace. Fern had accompanied me to What's Up for some drinks. They used to work together at Palace, so I offered to buy her a drink only because Fern asked. So every time, I came back to What's Up, the short hair model acts as if I'm her best new friend. She comes even when I have other girls with me. Long story short. One night I asked the short hair girl, let's go have sex. I want to barfine you. She said she can't tonight, but next time is okay. She also said it's very expensive here for a model. I looked her facial expressions and asked her why not tonight? She said she's on her period. I flat out told her. "I'm probably the one customer you shouldn't lie and play around with. I've been more than nice to you. You don't need to come over anymore and ask drinks from me. " Another dancer girl and waitstaff over heard me and told her something in Thai. They then told me "Don't worry, she doesn't know and is new working here. " She got up and left.

    My reputation is that I'm nice and generous, but have been in this game way too long to put up with some of these girls' games. I'll pay you good money for a good experience. Be nice to me and I'll always be nice to you. Screw me over, and I will embarrass you. I don't mind calling a girl out in front of another customer or another girl. Even with this reputation, I'm surprised still at how many girls I have gotten on first try and most have been the trophy ones, who gave me decent experiences. The few bad apples who hustled and gave me a horrible experience, I've already embarrassed them. And yet, when a new one comes along, here is the mamasan and waitstaff eager to make introductions for us. That's how I expect them to earn their tip. Not to stick out their hand for doing nothing. Bring me the best, hottest, and sexiest talent you have to offer and be accountable for her service because I'm a good customer. Anything wrong with that?

  11. #25617

    Oh yes they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I think it is all hyperbole. Nobody in his right mind walks around drinking & barhopping with 50 K sticking out of his pocket. It's just asking for trouble. On the other hand, I have initially enjoyed reading Monkeypaw's tongue in cheek posts because I didn't take him too literally. I think his posts form a humorous counterweight to the "I never pay more that 1000 baht for hot young girls" posts one sees on the forum. At least Monkeypaw posts pictures of his girls. I don't know if his pics are genuine or not, but I find some of his girls are attractive and I like that. Time will tell if Monkeypaw is real or not.
    Sorry I didn't mention my money was in USD, so it was that many notes. The other night, at one of my favorite go go bars, I was sitting next to this young Chinese tourist who was alone. He had a wad of 1000 bahts sticking out of his pocket. The staff had previously pointed out to him that it was sticking out looking like it was going to fall. He just waived them off. I alerted him also that it might fall out and to be careful. He also only shrugged off my suggestion. But he did asked me if I was Chinese. I said "No. I'm from Hong Kong". He looked glad and told me in Chinese, he broke away from a tour group, and that it was his first time in Pattaya. I asked why do have so much cash and how much is that? He said 100,000 baht and it was only for show to impress the girls. By the way, he was sipping on cheap draft beer (the same glass for 30 minutes) and apparently he doesn't drink. Next to me sitting was IMHO one of the hottest girls in Pattaya. Her body is all firm and natural but looks enhanced. She is a model dancer and I've been with her 3 times before. I also wanted to bar fine her again this night. By the way it's 2000 bar fine and short time is up to the girl (3000-8000) for the models at this club, but most don't go with customers. She asked me could I wait until after 2 am, so she could help her friends make some extra money off drinks. One of them needed 5 more to make her quota and it's her last day of her 10 day contract. I guess she's one those team players that drinks in groups of girls to help one another. The other girls tell me my model girl gets around 30 or so per night in drinks. That's a lot of revenue for the club, because for models, their drinks are 250 baht each.

    So I told her, not a problem, but her let me join in on the fun and help her friends and the rest of the girls out. Anyways I keep saying I come from power not money. So pay attention. I had the waitress bring the young Chinese guy come sit next to me. I told the waitress to put his bill consisting of his 1 draft beer on my tab. He was so happy. I looked at my model girl and winked. I started chatting the Chinese guy about China and Hong Kong, we went through some pictures on our phones. This guy apparently comes from a rich family who trades in gold. The more we talked and the more he looked at some of the people, places, and things in the photos on my phone, he knew I came from power and not wealth. It's hard to comprehend for most lay people what this means. But a few of you may understand. Then I begin playing with some of my magic. I told him to hide his money and choose the best looking girl in here. Funny thing is, he then asked if he can take mine? He wanted the same hot model I had planned to bar fine. I looked at her and winked that everything will be just fine, I asked her to bring over a good friend who she wanted to help make her drink quota. She brought over a so so in looks girl who was her friend. Looking at her, I would have never had an interest in her. But oh well. Still, I said to the sexy one "I want you to sit with him and your friend can sit with me. " I looked at him and said, since I gave you my girl and I have already paid for her drinks. You will have to pay for the drinks of my second choice (the so so girl). He agreed quickly. Come on, he gets a chance to sit with one of the hottest on Walking Street. How could he refuse? The so so girl then orders 5 tequila roses to which I told him to put on his new drink bill.

    I then bought this dude, who I can tell never drinks, some Sambuca shots on my tab. See how kind and generous I was being? Within an hour the magic started kicking in. He got tipsy and even bought me a couple of shots back. By then, I got both girls to come sit with him and then a few more girls came as well. I then told him don't buy any new girl drinks. He still wanted to. Pretty much everybody was taking shots besides the hot model girl and me. I just kept winking at her. Next the now drunk Chinese guy, who was previously flashing 100,000 baht, then said he was having so much fun and he wanted to buy some ping pongs to throw. I told him that it's not a good idea as the club keeps half the money and the girls only get to keep 10 baht per ball. I asked about his wad of 1000 bahts and he then took it out to show the girls. I suggested he get some of that changed to 20's, so he can make rain "yee sip" baht. Moments later, it was raining 20's everywhere in the club. He even gave me a stack of 2000 baht from his wad, so I can also help make it rain on the dancers. When he was on stage making it rain. I called the mamasan and waitstaff to check my bill consisting of his 1 draft beer, 5 Sambuca shots bought for him, 2 orange juices for my model girl, my tonic water, and the hot model's bar fine. Not any more than I usually pay. And in the end, I left him alone with some new friends, his bill, and whatever was left of his wad of cash. And of course, I was able to grab the hot model girl I originally wanted. I told her now that I helped her friend and the girls in club make some extra cash, we get to go before 2 am. She just grinned at me and off we went. The rest of the staff just folded their hands in prayer, bowed, grinned and thanked me on the way out.

    ISG photo upload has been acting weird, so I had to use this.

    http://i67.tinypic.com/2rqyltt.jpg

  12. #25616
    That is a real bummer. Happened elsewhere with a full time pro I shared contact. Thought she could take care of herself.

    Quote Originally Posted by RobJones  [View Original Post]
    You are correct Mr E. A girl who's ID I put out there was actually hit and I have been indirectly blamed for her injuries due to the fact that I supplied her information. A bitter pill to swallow.

  13. #25615
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Your tune changed quick Bro Rob. Just a couple of weeks ago I think you were saying you didn't care and would happily share contact information. Once again, experience proves itself to be the best teacher.
    You are correct Mr E. A girl who's ID I put out there was actually hit and I have been indirectly blamed for her injuries due to the fact that I supplied her information. A bitter pill to swallow.

  14. #25614
    Quote Originally Posted by GogoGuyz  [View Original Post]
    Much to my embarrassment Rob Jones has posted about our night out in Pattaya as a tag team weeks ago. So apologies for a delayed report. This was a one night visit in Pattaya so as you can see below I am going for it. Rob had a head start on me by a few days so I was relying on his intelligence gathering before I came. I met my regular bar girl contact from Ninja gogo bar when I checked in at 10 am. She was hot and into it. Round one then I showered and planned to go to meet Rob for a drink. I sat on the sofa and she cuddled up close again. Ooops cock gets hard again so we go for round 2 . Fucked like crazy while looking at ourselves in the mirror. Showered and said bye bye. Met Rob and went to a bar opposite Baraquda Sofitel where we are both staying to have a beer or two. I like this hotel so much as a 5 star option as it is between LK Metro and Walking Street and the reception staff are so cool about taking multiple girls in. They know me now haha. So we decide to hit Kinaree first. Rob said he would just have drinks and save his little man for later. In his report Rob says he resisted for 10 minutes but my estimate is that after a girl was on his lap in front of him on a high bar stool he lasted about 30 seconds before his little man was crying out for a fuck. I spotted a slim girl in a super short skirt which I like and invited her over. She stood between my open legs while I am on the bar stool feeling her sexy shaped ass. Now this is a one night stand for me in Pattaya so I am aiming to go for it. I then spotted 2 more hotties and invited them over. Bit fake but what the hell I take all 3 for a foursome. Banged them all and out to the bar to relax. The 2 late choices buggered off to other guys but the cutie in the micro mini skirt sticks onto me. She works at What's Up gogo in Walking Street in the night. Ok noted. So Rob and I go back to the hotel to freshen up and hit LK Metro as the gogo bars open early at 7 pm. Touch then Paradise. Good fun but no stunners. Cruise a few other bars then Ninja to see my morning fuck who was expecting us. Well call me a sucker but I like her and let her order 20 drinks which she consumed but being a gentleman I paid her bar fine so she could go home to sleep. Rob and I then hop on taxi bikes like desperadoes on a lifetime adventure and with the wind in our hair race down to Walking Street. Had some luck in Bliss before so go inside. See a cutie on stage and her friend and have drinks. But too early to commit so say bye bye. Then Rob and I cruise around eyeing the pussy potential. We go to What's Up as I like the girl from Kinaree. No 318 at What's Up. We find her and ask her to invite her friends for a drink but I don't fancy her friends so I just bar fine no 318 from Kinaree. The night is now pushing on towards 2 am. Rob knows the girls in Crazy House but doesn't want to meet his regular so we negotiate some girls from outside haha. Apparently one of the bar maids sees me, wants to fuck me and puts her hand up to join our orgy haha. In fact she is quite cute so off we go with 1 gogo girl and a bar maid. I tell Rob to wait as I want to check out 1-2 other bars but end up in Bliss alone and great the 2 hotties I saw earlier are free OK. Negotiate price and take them back to Rob who wondered where the heck I had been as he had been fending of the demands of the mamasan at Crazy House. Now inside. For more and more drinks. Robs face lights up when he spots the 2 Bliss girls with me. OK 5 girls back to my suite at Baraquda Sofitel and we do ourselves proud for a few hours. Great fun at least for Rob and me. About 5 am the party is over and I need to go to the airport. Grrrrrrrr. Frankly we overpaid on the bar fines for the girls but they were happy for that and what can you do after drinking and seeing such hotties. So I am hungry and wander outside to the 24 hour McDonalds. So I walk along and a hottie on the far side of the road catches my eye. She is walking alone. Short shirts and a crop top. So I cross the road to say Hi. 1000 baht for quick fuck OK so back to the room. Haha well I told you this was just one night and I am going for it. So that is it 10 girls in 24 hours. And yes I still made it for a quick McDonalds breakfast before getting the taxi. Thanks to Rob, the staff at Baraquda and of course all the girls for their good attitude and fun.
    Hi Gogoguyz.

    It was a night alright. Kudos to you too for making it an enjoyable night. I have showed my friends the pics of the Bliss girls and definitely on the repeat list.

    Look after yourself and I am back in February so if you have a lazy 24 hours. LOL.

  15. #25613

    Girl friend experience

    My experience is starting g to make me think a girl friend experience is all about the girl and not how well you know her. I went to a bar 3 nights in a row, play games with a girl, flirt etc. I took her back to the motel tonight and no GFE. Fair enough but I thought it would be one. I think many here don't care about GFE much, but I like it a lot. Some girls at soi 6 that I met 45 minutes before seem more GFE then someone I met a week ago.

    My conclusion, it is just the personality of the girl and nothing more.

    I have been here 3 days and had 3 girls and 2 massages with happy ending. Soi 7 and soi 8 are pretty fun. I went to a gogo on soi 7 (I think) and there were 2 women with great tits maybe see cups. It was a hands on place. Took a girl upstairs at soi 6. She said we had to be done in 20 minutes as they closed at 1. It was 1100 baht total. Found a few really good lookers but thought I would go back later and they were gone already.

    I went to (maybe) soi LK express. There were a lot of gogo places there. I am not really much for gogo bars. So it wasn't my thing. But there are several there. One was handing out coupon for free first drink.

    Things are different this trip. I am more of the attitude I look for what I want and say no to things I don't. Like not buying lady drinks unless I want.

    I am here 1 more day then off to phuket. I think I might take 10,000 baht and some viagra to soi 6 and go until I wear out.

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