Pattaya Reports

[ThaiGoodTimes]

I still think people are off the issue.

The issue is how you price a girl for the 1st time. THERE IS ONLY ONEWAY. No its not POPPAsan recommending a girl because her Service is good. Certainly he has no idea how Chemistry will be.

Take two girls Baitoey of Playpen FAME and one of Maggie Mays (take the median looking one, not the best and not the worst), hahahahahahahaha,. Both cost 500 baht.

No wrong answer please participate-Which one are you Buying. You have No idea on service or chemistry.

Again no wrong answer.

I am assuming I am needy, and must take one.

So I would sit and talk and buy a ladydrink to allow that to happen.

The looks are irrelevant in that situation.

But, if I didn't have that choice and I had to take one based on just two photos.

Well, as long as it hit's my minimum looks level, then I would go ugly, as ugly has to work harder to get by, and it is the sexual work level I am after.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

No one said looks are not important.
What has been said is that looks do not correlate to price paid.
Furthermore everyone values different looks.

One could argue that those that focus obsessively on looks might be as shallow as those working who trade solely on their looks.

But as long as both are happy with the deal, the punter for the arm candy, and the worker for the money, well, who is to argue with that being a successful agreement.

Those who instead seek great sexual connection, rapport, and a highly enjoyable time, as I do, set instead minimums that must be met. I have seen them mentioned here many times. Real engagement in the bar, focus on you not you and others, no attempt to milk drinks or engage other girls, and often price mentioned as a finalisation of interest, and of course kissing to a degree and playfulness in the bar before heading upstairs or off to your room These are no guarantee, but are a better starting point. And I invariably score well far more times than not.

Another little aside that has worked well for me for a long time in bars I regularly frequent. I make it clear that I am a regular of the bar, not a girl, and that I will switch around over time, mainly with newbies, as I make it known that is my favorite proposition. With this known, girls don't get attached and try to own me, they remain friends with me, and are at most sad when I move on to new arrivals. If they get too attached, the mamasan or other girls word them up, calm them down, it rarely ever has to be me. The plus side to this is that the mamasan, and the girls, a few who I call my pimps, bring the newbies to me, putting in a good word about going with me. And the sessions with those fresh new girls are generally great as they forget their fears, and I get their honest sexual interest and time.

The side bit that I find the most interesting is that the hotties in the bar have also caught onto all of this vibe in the bar. I have never approached any of them, as I saw them all a little stuck up, over inflated with themselves, and likely for me would be poor fucks in my opinion. But things have a way of working themselves out, and and I have now had many of them, on my terms, without any of the games being played they normally do. They have come to me, then with me, intrigued a little with what is the vibe and why. They all know I am attached, my girlfriends photo as my screensaver and lock screen, so it they know is just about the sex for me, and they decide to try it. They also know I am naughty, nearly always bareback with creampie, as I am cut and cannot make a baby. Many girls bring a condom, have it on the bed, even open it, but 9 out of 10 times it is on the bed it remains, unused, by their decision. I was in my favorite bar two nights ago, with maybe 20 plus girls in the bar working, I counted 14 that I had slept with, all knowing that I had, with maybe just the one that had been with a condom, and all I got from all of them was genuine smiles. Looks can be bought any time, interest in you, and from that good sexual sessions cannot be bought, they are earned.

[EihTooms]

I still think people are off the issue.

The issue is how you price a girl for the 1st time. THERE IS ONLY ONEWAY. No its not POPPAsan recommending a girl because her Service is good. Certainly he has no idea how Chemistry will be.

Take two girls Baitoey of Playpen FAME and one of Maggie Mays (take the median looking one, not the best and not the worst), hahahahahahahaha,. Both cost 500 baht.

No wrong answer please participate-Which one are you Buying. You have No idea on service or chemistry.

Again no wrong answer.

Yes, of course, if two girls are standing naked side by side and the first one is 22 years old, has well-balanced and even facial features, a fit, well-proportioned, slim and curvy body, smooth skin and no big ugly scars while the second one is 47 years old, has a huge chin and thin lips, is 15 kilos overweight with belly flab hanging over her waistband, skin like a cheese grater and baby damage like the map of Paris, it is reasonable to conclude the former can and will earn a higher rating from most punters than the latter.

But that still doesn't mean she would be worth my paying her so much as 100 baht for 1 hour with her if her agreement is No DFK, No BBBJ, No BBFSCIP and No BBBJCIM either if it comes to that instead of BBFSCIP, all done slow, easy, relaxed and no rush at the pace I set.

If my rating of her on looks alone was an 8, the No on those issues will immediately reduce that to a 1 for her as a P4 P provider. If that much. And I will be setting that rating based on what I learn about her upfront before I take her, not after I discover the bad news about her and me in bed.

However, regarding SubCmdr's question:

Does paying more equate to a better sexual experience? Does a more attractive girl (using your personal scale) fuck better?

Yes, if my offer to pay her more money moves that first girl from a No to a Yes on all of my conditions stated above I believe that would qualify as equating to a better sexual experience with a more attractive girl and inspiring her to fuck better. For me. Even if her heart isn't in it but her desire for more money is, those conditions I cited above would generally create a pretty good imitation of her heart being in it if that is necessary for a better experience.

By contrast, a Yes to everything upfront from the second lady I described above would probably not provide me with a successful sexual experience at any price or even for free or if she paid me, much less a better one. So she would rate let's say a 1 from me on looks alone, also 1 as a P4 P provider. Again, if that.

[Raj Patela]

I still think people are off the issue.

The issue is how you price a girl for the 1st time. THERE IS ONLY ONEWAY. No its not POPPAsan recommending a girl because her Service is good. Certainly he has no idea how Chemistry will be.

Take two girls Baitoey of Playpen FAME and one of Maggie Mays (take the median looking one, not the best and not the worst), hahahahahahahaha,. Both cost 500 baht.

No wrong answer please participate-Which one are you Buying. You have No idea on service or chemistry.

Again no wrong answer.

[Bunky]

Did you really tell this more than likely Indian or Middle Eastern poster to start his search for top shelf models at the gogo bars on WS? Yeah um right. Good luck with making it a few steps near the club before getting pointed away by the guards.

Unless somebody explicitly provides his nationality, I don't assume based on user name, English composition skill or other indirect evidence.

Moreover, the "Where are the hotties in Pattaya?" query is a staple from guys regardless of their home country. I thought my brief summary of the conventional wisdom would be helpful.

I concede that guys who hail from certain countries often have trouble getting admitted to go-go clubs on Walking Street and elsewhere. This prejudice has been discussed at great length, and I saw no point in going over it again.

[NewImage]

NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.
I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.
You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!

If you are a ego centered man go for the most attractive girl in the bar- that will get you off. I would argue, if you are older male, go for the girl that you feel you have a connection with. Some like the dirtiest. Some like the newbie or the quiet silent type who you know doesn't get BF much therefore horny as fuck.

I have a rigid selection criteria that I stick to and one of my strong rules is if they don't DFK and play a bit in the bar we are not going home.

I learned my lesson in KL when at BC I had a 6 out of 10 throw herself at me. The phrase "I want your baby" came up a few times and nothing was off the table. I ditched her after the first night due to facial looks but looking back I realize I could have had a week of open slather. Fool.

Find out what works for you.

Another tactic I use is I often say I don't HAVE to have sex tonite. It usually floors them and their reaction can be very interesting. There's a lot more psychology in sex than people realize.

Anyway if an 8 out of 10 is sucking your cock does a 10 out of 10 make that sucking so much better? From where I come from where most women are 4 ot of 10 I'm way ahead.

BYVMD.

[CaliGuy33]

Thank you my ISG Brother. You and I are in complete agreement on this subject. And I have had the same experiences as you have. I have received excellent performances from girls who like me. And I have repeated with those girls. And none of my experiences has anything to do with the price point I have set for myself.

That is why I do not negotiate. If a girl does not want to accept my offer, getting her to come down is only going to make resentful she has to fuck me for "little money". Rather have a girl that accepts my offer and then give her a 100 THB tip as a performance bonus!.

Valid points. The ladies I had awesome sessions with and made a connection with text me daily eventhough I'm back home because they want to see me when I return. Whereas the ladies I had blah sessions with disappear or leave the chat on Line once they know I left Thailand. Good boom boom is more about connection and vibes than just looks, preferablly, you find ladies that have both looks and vibes. This is easier to find for the guys who live there or stay long time and that's why said guys develop a legit rotation of ladies. I hope to be that guy one day but for now I'm only in Pattaya for a month or so a year.

[SubCmdr]

Does paying more equate to a better sexual experience? Does a more attractive girl (using your personal scale) fuck better?.

I have had 6's rock my world and 10's leave me cold! Real world experience with girls who fucked me because they liked me. Pussy is Pussy when it is free. But if I am going to pay for it. I have to like the girl in the moment. I do not have a checklist. I am not flying a mother fucking plane. This is not mother fucking brain surgery for me or rocket science.

You did say Looks Don't Matter to you.

Quote the post where I said that.

Your actions certainly agree with your point of view

I said I focus on the deal. I have repeatedly asked you to meet me in person and show me what you mean by "looks". You refuse to meet me. That means you have ZERO information on my actions. And you have NEVER seen a prostitute I have hired in Pattaya or anywhere else in the world Raj Raj. FACTS. Now I ask you, why are you afraid to come out from behind your computer screen and stop banging on your keyboard? Lot of talk, no action!

No arguments from me. Carry on SiR.

You are entitled to your own facts. Not your own opinions.

All comments you make about me are simply your opinion. Since they are not facts we can both be right. Now please tell us more about 2500 THB Bar Fines and 5000-7000 LT sessions. Do you get three nuts out of that or just two?

[SubCmdr]

No one said looks are not important. What has been said is that looks do not correlate to price paid. Furthermore everyone values different looks.

I still don't get how you Price a Bargirl other than looks.

Ideologically a 500 bahter, sub. ,com girl should give better service. I mean she can Focus there isn't a line waiting out the door for her out the door.

It all begins with looks. I'm not backing Down. Then everyone has their checklist. Lucky for commander his list is Teeny Tiny.

No need to back down. Your dick and your money. The only think I have seen that is Teeny Tiny is your brain. It often appears that you lack intelligence. What ever group you happen to represent, your are the worst of them.

Chocolate Men get the most reaction of Soi 6 girls as they walk by. Weird. Especially from the Dark Skin Heavy Set Girls. Hahaha.

Can you keep your racist insults of individuals who do things different from you to yourself? All you do is encourage those deep feeling about the matter to say stupid things like this:

These are American guys most of the time. Chics are all over them because they can spend very crazy on LDs.

Can I say something about most of the dump ass farrangs I see running around Pattaya? They don't look like me!

[Paolo99]

If her friend hasn't gotten a customer in three days, then I'll politely spin it around to be her fault. Why didn't your friend get a customer in 3 days? Were they not acting as good as you? Did they make the last customer angry? I like you, not your friend, so I buy you a drink or two instead.

Most of them wouldn't understand these replies. They might even misinterpret what you said and wrongly get mad at you.

Best thing to say is to make it short like "I pay drink only for one girl" and you point at the girl you were already bying a drink to with a big smile on your face.

Also, "No. " is a whole sentence.

Exactly, you can just say no with a smile. They can try to be pushy, just keep saying no, eventually the friend will get it and move back to where she came from.

[Paolo99]

Chocolate Men get the most reaction of Soi 6 girls as they walk by. Weird. Especially from the Dark Skin Heavy Set Girls. Hahaha.

These are American guys most of the time. Chics are all over them because they can spend very crazy on LDs.

[Tvataham274]

When you have bought a drink for a lady in a bar, it's very common for the bargirl to ask you to buy her friend a drink. Often, the request is accompanied with "she hasn't had a drink in 3 days".

Always say no.

First off, the bargirl may be lying. It's common for bargirls to cut a deal where, if one snags a customer, she gives her friend a ladydrink, thus doubling their revenues.

But, it may be the case that her friend hasn't had a ladydrink for 3 days. If so, don't buy her a drink. If the lady cannot attract customers, she needs to find a job in another line of work.

If her friend hasn't gotten a customer in three days, then I'll politely spin it around to be her fault. Why didn't your friend get a customer in 3 days? Were they not acting as good as you? Did they make the last customer angry? I like you, not your friend, so I buy you a drink or two instead.

If the two are together when you say that you like the girl and not the friend, the girl isn't going to pass aside the compliment and drink offer.

If they are not nearby and she's just pointing to a friend, she's not going to talk badly about her friend, so she'll just accept the drink offer.

Also, "No. " is a whole sentence.

[Explorer8939]

If the friend is ugly I always provide career consultation that she needs to look for another line of work. I'm so jai dee that I don't even charge my regular consultation rates.

If the friend is hot, I boot the first girl away and feel up and DFK the friend instead.

There have been a couple of times when I barfined the second girl, leaving the first one in the bar.

[Raj Patela]

NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.

I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.

You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!

I still don't get how you Price a Bargirl other than looks.

Ideologically a 500 bahter, sub. ,com girl should give better service. I mean she can Focus there isn't a line waiting out the door for her out the door.

It all begins with looks. I'm not backing Down. Then everyone has their checklist. Lucky for commander his list is Teeny Tiny.

[SubCmdr]

NO. There is a correlation between the way a girl thinks about YOU and performance. However people here are only focus on LOOKS and PRICE. Kinda lame I think.

I fly to Thailand today and got tons of girls lined up. But I know for sure a few will give me a Oscar worthy experience for a reasonable price simply because they "like" me.

You can rent pussy and sex. However its not easy to rent sexually involvement and real passion!

Thank you my ISG Brother. You and I are in complete agreement on this subject. And I have had the same experiences as you have. I have received excellent performances from girls who like me. And I have repeated with those girls. And none of my experiences has anything to do with the price point I have set for myself.

That is why I do not negotiate. If a girl does not want to accept my offer, getting her to come down is only going to make resentful she has to fuck me for "little money". Rather have a girl that accepts my offer and then give her a 100 THB tip as a performance bonus!.