Pattaya Reports

[Turgid]

............. I do think that there are girls that fall in love with their customers too. ............ That happened to me too. One girl even stepped out of her room in Amsterdam and followed me on the street. ............. One other girl travelled 1000 kilometers because she had heard I would visit that particular SC in Germany that day. ..........

From my experience the working girls who seem most susceptible to falling in love with a customer are European girls. Many are good conversationalists and are quite willing to spend a lot of time chatting with you and not wanting to rush into the room.

[PedroMorales]

They seem to be good at hiding a customer's face. Very empathetic. I still couldn't find the mentioned girls and their numbers. One set is from definitely from Pin Up, not sure about the others. I wonder if these are new talent or same girls pre COVID?

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5f8839e2b505c

I clicked on your link. Interesting to see so many gals there though I am sure outside was empty. A link beneath it has an American woman selling small tubs (c 200 ML) of her urine for $1000 US. A real case of caveat emptor. I wouldn't pay $50 for her, yet some pathetic Bob out there.

[Mr Enternational]

Continuing on, I asked where she was going, if not Bangkok. Well, Pattaya, right? No, wrong. She was preparing to go to South Korea (SK)! She was going to make big money working on a vegetable farm for two years

LOL. Seriously? She is about to go vegetable farming in the winter in South Korea? I have heard of chicks going there to work in massage parlors and chicks going there to be hookers, but never vegetable farming. What you describe is a chick that is about to get tricked into sex slavery. Never heard it from the vegetable farm angle though.

[FL Hawk]

My memory of the events around this time period were a little hazy so I dug up the original Line messages from that time and found I made an error! I correctly said she quit the bar then left Pattaya to go home for a little bit, then she went to Bangkok and found work at the clothing store. She went back home for Lent with the intention of staying just a few days, but then she had the motorbike accident and could not immediately return and her job was terminated. So, when I previously got the cliffhanging message that she was leaving Bangkok to make money elsewhere, she was not then in Bangkok but still at home. I think the story will provide needed background information if I go back to the time following her accident and retrace the story from there.

So, after the accident, she started texting me more often as she was not busy with work so she had the time. Plus she was bored. And the longer she stayed home, the more worried she got as there was no money coming in and, I now know, she was facing a financial crisis point. I am withholding certain personal information about her, but she had made little money in the months of August and September, and now October was turning into a complete bust. I think she realized her going to Pattaya had been a horrible idea both economically as well as mentally, and she was now facing loss of the imminent loss of the family farm. Some of you seem to think BGs make a ton of money, but that is not always the case. Secret was not quite cut out for the work, and I never considered the bar she worked at to be especially popular. She went to the bar with the belief she would make a lot of money, but it really didn't work out so well.

We had plans to go to Phuket and Bangkok later in November. As she recovered during October we talked about the trip, which helped to get her mind of off her troubles. She was excited as this would be her first trip to Phuket and her first ride in an airplane. Other than Bangkok, her home province and now Pattaya, she had never traveled anywhere and, as she told me, she was afraid to travel alone. She told me that her mother told her of a close relative who met her husband in Phuket and wondered if Secret might find hers' there as well. That, and some other comments, showed she had some sort of feelings or hopes regarding me but, hey, we know that business comes before love so, despite some affections from her, I had not yet experienced her love, or at least a version of love that I, a westerner, understood it to be at the time. But without the distractions of work, she was actually being sweet to me with lots of messages exchanged, but never using the L word and never asking me for money. But time ticked on. I was waiting for us to meet again and spend more time together so I could assess our relationship. This was only two months after she (allegedly) stopped bar fining people so I was still on high alert for scams and for signs that she had other boyfriends.

As she healed, she said several times she needed to get back to Bangkok to work. But the rice harvest was approaching and she needed to stay home. Our trip to Phuket was about 2 weeks after that. I said I would pay her lost expenses and wages for the time we were together, but she had missed a significant portion of income. I was concerned she might cancel our trip as she could hardly go to Bangkok, find a job and then immediately ask for 2 weeks off. But she continued to say how much she looked forward to the vacation, and thoughts of the trip and what we would do seemed to comfort her. But was coming to the realization she was in a financial pickle and she pretty much kept it to herself.

When the harvest started, she told me that she would be returning to Bangkok to find work in a week. Soon after her texting frequency dropped dramatically. I knew something was up, though 2 days before she was to leave she told me how much she wanted to go to Phuket with me. On the day of her planned return to Bangkok I had not heard from her, so I texted her to ask if she was in Bangkok. That is when she told me she needed money and would not be going to Bangkok. This is where I left off last time.

Continuing on, I asked where she was going, if not Bangkok. Well, Pattaya, right? No, wrong. She was preparing to go to South Korea (SK)! She was going to make big money working on a vegetable farm for two years in order to finally pay off the farm once and for all, then buy some land and build a small house she had dreamed of for year, and finally have enough money to properly care for her family with some honor and dignity. She would be on a 2-year contact. At that time I was not aware of such work, but I have since learned SK is desperate for farm workers and that many Thais go there as the money is relatively good.

A local neighbor who had done farm work in SK before told her about the work and got her in touch with an agent. She had met with him and she was about ready to sign a contract and leave for SK, the farm being secured when she signed. She thanked me for the help I had provided and apologized for not be able to go to Phuket. She did not know if or when she might see me again (she felt I was going to dump her and never want to see or talk to her again). She was pretty distraught, but knew of no other way to extract herself from her financial predicament. Some of you will think she was faking it and out to scam me. Perhaps.

She was stoic about the whole thing and appeared resolute in her decision. I think she felt the money was too much to even think of asking me for help. She said this was something she had to do for her family, so she was going to do it. There was no crying, no pleading, not even a hint she was hoping I would step in and save the day. For her, if she did nothing, she land would be foreclosed and they would have to find another place the live. I will say again, this is a small family.

So, I have just been blindsided. Do I believe her? Is this a scam she is pulling to get my money by making me feel sorry for her? Was she really leaving Thailand and her family to go work on a vegetable farm? What do I do? What CAN I do? What should I do? I think I know what many of you would do! The question now is, what DID I do? And do I now have regrets? And, of course, what did SHE do? Did she run off to SK and that was the last we have seen of each other, or was she sent home due the virus and she contacted me and wants to get back together?

[Member #4733]

You're a romantic guy like I was 15 years ago.
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Last time, I was fucking a very sexy girl in Pattaya who is 21.
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After we spoke and she told me she has 5 boyfriends from many countries.

Sorry to reply so late. I try to only read these stories in the weekend and most of times I succeed. I am not a very romantic guy. Sometimes I fall in love with a sex worker but I never gave them money beyond the rate for their sexual services. Except for a tip of a few euros. I do think that there are girls that fall in love with their customers too. And of course there are girls that try to take advantage of their customers. But I do think that especially a starting sex worker has a dream of a wealthy client who will take care of her. That happened to me too. One girl even stepped out of her room in Amsterdam and followed me on the street. And she was very popular with loads of money. Certainly not fighting for a customer. One other girl travelled 1000 kilometers because she had heard I would visit that particular SC in Germany that day. So, whatever you think, not all of them are lazy. I do think that you are right in many ways for many girls. But not all of them. I thought that maybe FL Hawk had met a girl that was really falling for him. Or put in a better way: she liked him best of all her customers and tried to enter into a relationship with him. That can be genuine. But it doesn't need to be so. After a girl has seen that her customer is into other girls as well, she might get disappointed and start to deceive her customers in a 'love for money' relationship. Just like a sponsor as you described. But by no means are all girls cheating. No way. One comment on your five sponsors at an age of 21. Of course that is possible in theory but it is not very likely. It seems a bit the same as the guy in a SC in Germany that claimed his roommate had five orgasms in a row. Only he believed that.

P. S: I never had a relationship with a sex worker. It came close once but I declined for social reasons. Too different from the rest of my life.

[PedroMorales]

Scrolling through the posts, I can see how virtual is viable. The trike drives must think we are nuts paying a fortune to fly in and bonk their seconds. Some Yank in a flyover state with $50 or $100 burning a hole in his pocket might think being a big player in a virtual Soi 6 is being a high roller. Personally, I think gambling, never mind Las Vegas, is nuts. You do know people now bet big time on virtual horses, horses that are not real. Then you have all those virtual "games" where you can buy all kinds of virtual crap with real money.

[RedMau5]

I stopped going to Soi 6 as a result of these live streams. I mean, the only reason you would be on Soi 6 is to pick up prostitutes and I don't really want my face being beamed around the world by several bars as I do that.

They seem to be good at hiding a customer's face. Very empathetic. I still couldn't find the mentioned girls and their numbers. One set is from definitely from Pin Up, not sure about the others. I wonder if these are new talent or same girls pre COVID?

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h5f8839e2b505c

[GinAndTonic555]

Can you guys please provide us with some links to these bars doing Facebook Live.

I know many Soi 6 bars are on Facebook posting about how some Farang 1000s of miles away is buying 20+ drinks for a bar girl, some of which the Farang has never even met before. However, I have yet come across bars doing Facebook Live, not that I look often.

I have noticed a big uptick of girls popping up on the Thai cam girl sites. Most are not worth looking at and many ladyboys but there was one who was gogo girl quality cute. Unfortunately, she doesn't even go naked.

If you go on facebook during open bar hours to either Wraith or Toybox they'll have the streams running. Other bars will too but I'm not sure which ones but check facebook and they'll have a little paypal for donations.

[Banana Boi]

In these trying times the bars and their girls are desperate, so I can understand why they are experimenting the live video feeds & long distance drink buys to stay alive, but this is a very dangerous road to go down which in the long run I believe will discourage business for the reasons stated. The key question is will the bars give up this supplemental revenue source once the border opens up again and business returns to near normal? All I know is that even with privacy protocols in place to protect the identity of customers, I will not go to any bar with concurrent live video feeds if for no other reason than it is a distraction for the girls.

I'm certain this will all disappear by the time we are allowed back in to Thailand. You are correct most guys won't go to bars where live streaming is active. I stopped going to a local strip club years ago when they decided that live streaming was a good idea. You could clearly see a guy's face sitting there in pervert's row.

[Banana Boi]

Many bars posting there live stream in Facebook Live and they asking to buy online girl drinks through paypal.

I noticed soi 6 bars live streaming.

Can you guys please provide us with some links to these bars doing Facebook Live.

I know many Soi 6 bars are on Facebook posting about how some Farang 1000s of miles away is buying 20+ drinks for a bar girl, some of which the Farang has never even met before. However, I have yet come across bars doing Facebook Live, not that I look often.

I have noticed a big uptick of girls popping up on the Thai cam girl sites. Most are not worth looking at and many ladyboys but there was one who was gogo girl quality cute. Unfortunately, she doesn't even go naked.

[GinAndTonic555]

I go down to Pattaya every once in awhile from BKK. I noticed soi 6 bars live streaming. Soi 6 used to be the ST street now its the spot for online live streams. Alot of these places the live stream is near the door and you can see customers walking in and some sitting in the bar.

I've actually decided to completely give up on Soi 6. Outside of the live streaming they also have more expensive drinks compared to other beer bars in other areas. If you want to LT a girl their barfines are more expensive than the best gogos in town which is LOL. They blare music when there's no customers in the place but you. They used to get a pass by me because they had great quality compared to any other daytime options. I've noticed now a lot of quality girls that were once on soi 6 moving to other bars in town. Also lets be honest girls on soi 6 take way more cock then girls anywhere else. The managers themselves get free reign to bang all the girls in other bars and put them through the famed NW training protocols.

At this point I'm voting with my wallet and won't be spending any money on the 6 and I know many guys in Pattaya who feel the same way. Nightwish put a monopoly on that road and watching them turn the street into a online live stream convention is the final straw for me. Plenty of other good options in Metro area, on the poon, and soi boomerang.

[LittleBigMan]

Getting old and falling behind with technology? I grew up in the Porn era, anyone remember the Mitchell Brothers in San Francisco? Maybe getting old and being here live and in color is a blessing because I have no intention going back to visual porn or whatever they plan to call it today as being reported. What goes around comes around? Just like the Brick and Mortar stores slowly is coming back because there are people like myself if I'm going to pay for something especially sex I want to touch and feel even try on the product before paying. Just like Visual education it can be harmful?

[EihTooms]

Thai hookers are early adapters. When smart phones first came in, the hookers were all over them trying out the different functions. Sex has always adapted. Sure, lament the old days when bareback was to be had for a nickel and you could do Europe on $5 a day, less if you joined the hundreds of thousands of Yanks who flooded into Paris in the 1920's, when you could pick yourself up a dose of the French Pox for less than the price of a hand-burger.

This is the new normal. Those who survive will do well in the new sanitised Pattaya and where family oriented tourists with big spending power can swan about looking at an emasculated Sodom and Gomorrah. Pattaya goes global. I am sure US strip joints will hit back. In the bigger scheme of things, this is no different from all those virtual influencers. It is better, in fact, as they are sahaking down Bob and other rich marshmallows.

Complaining about this is just a continuation of complaining about Japanese etc ruining it by overpaying.

Pattaya, like everywhere else, is being downsized.

Of course, sex will adapt, I will adapt and I will still get what I want and pay for no matter the technological advancement. Often even because of and thanks to the technological advancement.

If all bars, go-go bars and beer bars, go live stream and every girl in them makes a decent living off of 100+ commission Ladydrinks per day bought for them by computer bound lonelyhearts and wannabe White Knights around the globe providing no need for those girls to ever fuck, suck or even give a handjob to a customer again there will always be other venues and options to earn my recreational P4P time and money instead.

As there are already, made possible or at least easier to accomplish by technological advancement.

[SaranMonger31]

Thanks JB. Reminded me of a report that I was supposed to write like 3 weeks ago. First let me quote this from the article you posted.

"It's working, also, at least at some bars. Some bars have even reportedly made thousands of US dollars and have huge dedicated audiences. A look through live chats can see some full of dozens to even hundreds of people from around the world interacting with girls, joking with them and sending them drinks, of which they get a commision, from around the world. ".

A chick I know that works on Soi 6 was having her birthday party so I went up to the bar to buy her a drink. There was another chick working there that was talking to a guy via video. In front of the chick I know and the other girl were a bunch of fucking drinks. Like 12 or so? She said that the guy on the video had bought them. No idea what payment method was used. In one of the pictures you can see the girl's cell phone standing up while she is on video with the dude.

Many bars posting there live stream in Facebook Live and they asking to buy online girl drinks through paypal.

[Member #4698]

In these trying times the bars and their girls are desperate, so I can understand why they are experimenting the live video feeds & long distance drink buys to stay alive, but this is a very dangerous road to go down which in the long run I believe will discourage business for the reasons stated. The key question is will the bars give up this supplemental revenue source once the border opens up again and business returns to near normal? All I know is that even with privacy protocols in place to protect the identity of customers, I will not go to any bar with concurrent live video feeds if for no other reason than it is a distraction for the girls. The customer in the bar must remain the sole focus of the girls or the venue will fail.

Open the border, Thailand!