Pattaya Reports

[PattayaAddict2]

Hello guys,

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Kinneree is my favorite spot GC was just there Thursday afternoon at 1 pm, I make it a regular thing to not go on food days which are Wed, Sat, and Sun out of all the food days Saturday is probably the best since many like the ribs. You be surprised how many on the food days like to drink and buy them for the ladies by the time they are ready you are over the limit and your meal is free. Although not a big drink buyer usually the girl I take by the time feels out whether she ticks all the boxes she gets two if she is any good might get a 3rd before I leave. The non-Food day is slow, especially these covid days.

Didn't get into prices since I always pay the 1000 baht if they tick all the boxes I just 1200 which is what happened on Thursday.

Never heard about this place. Could you share a bit more on how it works?

- Rooms available.

- Number of girls.

- How much time would you spend there and what time is "peak"?

Thanks in advance!

[Mr Enternational]

Prior to pursuing CIP, I asked all of the girls about birth control and all but one said they were protected. Most indicated they got an injection. This was a slight surprise to me as I had assumed birth control usage would be low due to cost,

How much did you suppose it costs?

[Neidermeyer]

Gentlemen,

I just returned from 10 days in Thailand (Pattaya and Bangkok) during which I ventured into the BBFS+CIP realm for the first time within the hobbying context. I am mid-40's, white, average looking, and in good shape. For the benefit of the board, here are my results:

Results - 9 girls total: 7 BBFS (78% success rate); 5 BBFS+CIP (56% success rate); 2 Condom (22% objection rate).

The 9 girls were fairly even distributed across venues:

4 from gogos: all allowed BBFS+CIP.

2 from Soi Pothole: 1 BBFS+CIP; 1 BBFS only.

1 from Thai Friendly: BBFS only.

1 from Soi 6: Insisted on condom.

1 from the street: Insisted on condom.

Gogos included Windmill, Babydolls, and Tilac Bar (in Soi Cowboy). These are perhaps on the naughtier side so I'm not sure my results would have been the same had I pulled from the more "glam" gogos. One girl from Soi Pothole agreed to CIP but I decided not to pursue because she wasn't on birth control. Therefore, the Soi Pothole bars were effectively 100% success rate for BBFS+CIP.

In addition, I also received BBBJ in Pandoras gogo, Elite GC, and Bada Bing GC; and skin-to-skin lapdances in Windmill, Babydolls, Bada Bing, and Longun gogo (Soi Cowboy).

Birth control - Prior to pursuing CIP, I asked all of the girls about birth control and all but one said they were protected. Most indicated they got an injection. This was a slight surprise to me as I had assumed birth control usage would be low due to cost, but am happy to report that it seems at least some girls are taking precautions. I hope it's true.

Approach for BBFS - Regarding the best approach to secure BBFS, I previously always adopted the "go with the flow" approach rather than negotiating upfront, but for this trip I changed tactics and experimented with discussing upfront. Doing this, I found my BBFS success rate was essentially unchanged from prior trips. This leads me to conclude that for the most part these girls are either okay with BBFS or they're not; it doesn't really matter if you discuss ahead of time or not. What will be will be.

Given this, one might logically conclude that negotiating upfront is always the best approach since it enables you to clarify which type of girl you're dealing with before investing more time, money, and travel, etc. And I think this is generally correct. The rub is that girls don't always act consistently (shocker, I know). So even if a girl generally insists on a condom, once she's comfortable with you and is naked in your bed feeling wet and horny, it's possible she'll agree to BBFS in the moment when she wouldn't have done so upfront in the starkness of the club. As a result, on the margins, I think the "go with the flow" approach is likely to yield slightly more success overall than the upfront approach.

However, the "go with the flow" approach also carries significant downside risk. One could spend thousands of baht in barfines and other hassles in pursuit of only slightly better chances of BBFS compared to simply discussing upfront. As a result, I plan to adopt the following blended strategy going forward:

Scenario 1 - The girl is so hot that I don't care or I'm out of options for the night and am going to take her regardless. My approach = don't ask about BBFS. Just go with the flow and assume she's okay with it until proven otherwise.

Scenario 2 - Includes every other situation including Thai Friendly and those where I have more time or choice. My approach = gain BBFS agreement upfront or move on.

I know this may seem like common sense and overly simplistic, but based on personal experience and some experimentation I now feel confident that this is the optimum strategy for me.

Health - A word on safe sex for those who may be concerned. While I don't like to use a condom, I do protect myself by taking PReP and Acylovir to reduce the chances of contracting HIV and herpes respectively. I also carry antibiotics for bacterial infections. Despite this, there are obviously still risks which I accept and each should understand and consider personally.

Summary - In summary, based on my experience I can validate that BBFS is widely available in Pattaya and the majority of girls who agree to BBFS will also agree to CIP. This a much higher rate than I expected so am quite happy to have discovered this little nugget. My results are obviously anecdotal so YMMV as always. I'd be curious to know what others have experienced.

Neidermeyer.

[Neidermeyer]

This subject is one of the more interesting shop talks on here and I think it warrants a good deal of discussion. Like many things with a human element, it really is an Art more than a Science, so STEM career mongers or otherwise analytical types will miss a bit of the picture because there is so much that is interpretative and in the moment. The negotiation can be a kind of dance based on intuition and emotional intelligence.

The "go with the flow" is a valid technique, and actually it's one I do use occasionally- but only if the ST rate discussed is on the low side (1000 baht). Many girls on this end of the price curve are usually more receptive in general because they perceive their value as lower, and also if things go sideways, I'm not going to feel too bad about being out of 1000 baht.

Anything higher than this I will secure some sort of commitment, but the negotiation is often a dance around it, using the possibility as a bargaining chip, but also leaving it largely implied. If she says "you can do anything but finish in my mouth" I will take this as permission for CIP even though it is not explicit.

A summary glance at my Thaifriendly to Line pipeline and it looks like ⅓ flat out reject no condom, ⅓ will but for an additional fee, and ⅓ are open to it or implied that anything is on the table. I think most of the time if you can't get BBFS, you should be able to at least get a BBBJ with CIM.

RS,

I appreciate your thoughtful response as always.

I understand that trying to measure this hobby analytically alone can be folly as it misses the interpersonal nuances that are often the key to success. I totally get it. That said, I do think the numbers can be instructive and I very much appreciate your perspective.

I'll soon post a summary of my most recent experiences and thoughts on the subject.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

The other night at Baccara, I dreamed that I was kidnapping all the girls present on the stage when they changed their session, that is to say when there were the most of them. I was taking them to a desert island, just me and them. I was the boss. So they had to wash the dishes. This dream also works very well in Pin Up and Farenheit.

No, no, I mustn't fall in love with the pretty number 369 of Sapphyre. She haunts my evenings and even now also my days, I think only of her. Her laughing eyes, her mischievous smile when she dances, I mustn't see them again in front of me.

[LittleBigMan]

You guys are making the easiest place on earth complicated. Only 2 pieces of information are needed here:

1. Walk down the street, or into a massage shop, or into a bar, or into a disco. See a chick. Go fuck.

2. Get on Thai Friendly. See a chick. Go fuck.

If you need any other information then you are just trying to waste time and not trying to fuck.

By the way, was in Kinneree on Saturday. Price is now 1200 for a chick and 350 for the room. My buddy said if you spend 1000 then the buffet is free. Don't know what else you would be spending 1000 on except a chick. But that day they had ribs and salad that looked like burgers. My friend ate but I did not. I think he paid like 350 for the buffet. There were plenty of chicks there.

Kinneree is my favorite spot GC was just there Thursday afternoon at 1 pm, I make it a regular thing to not go on food days which are Wed, Sat, and Sun out of all the food days Saturday is probably the best since many like the ribs. You be surprised how many on the food days like to drink and buy them for the ladies by the time they are ready you are over the limit and your meal is free. Although not a big drink buyer usually the girl I take by the time feels out whether she ticks all the boxes she gets two if she is any good might get a 3rd before I leave. The non-Food day is slow, especially these covid days.

Didn't get into prices since I always pay the 1000 baht if they tick all the boxes I just 1200 which is what happened on Thursday.

[Mr Enternational]

You are making it too simple. A first timer in Thailand needs much more information than just this.

I guess I am a big picture guy. Tell me where I can find some chicks and how much I can expect to spend and turn me loose. I don't want to be micromanaged and told how many strokes to do in her mouth before putting on the condom and going to poundtown.

[Explorer8939]

Majority of guys like girls who are a bit more Stellar than the ones you and the other guy Fancy.

The corollary to this is: " the ladies are not as attractive in Pattaya as they were XX years ago. " This proclamation was first made by a Chinese sailor in the year 1473.

[Mogwai]

Just walk down Soi 6, and you will be an experts in 24 hours.

Not an expert in everything. For that he also needs to walk down Soi 6-1.

[Mogwai]

You guys are making the easiest place on earth complicated. Only 2 pieces of information are needed here:
1. Walk down the street, or into a massage shop, or into a bar, or into a disco. See a chick. Go fuck.
2. Get on Thai Friendly. See a chick. Go fuck.
If you need any other information then you are just trying to waste time and not trying to fuck.

You are making it too simple. A first timer in Thailand needs much more information than just this.

[Mr Enternational]

Nixonbd is right. Good sources of information are:

You guys are making the easiest place on earth complicated. Only 2 pieces of information are needed here:

1. Walk down the street, or into a massage shop, or into a bar, or into a disco. See a chick. Go fuck.

2. Get on Thai Friendly. See a chick. Go fuck.

If you need any other information then you are just trying to waste time and not trying to fuck.

By the way, was in Kinneree on Saturday. Price is now 1200 for a chick and 350 for the room. My buddy said if you spend 1000 then the buffet is free. Don't know what else you would be spending 1000 on except a chick. But that day they had ribs and salad and looked like burgers. My friend ate but I did not. I think he paid like 350 for the buffet. There were plenty of chicks there.

[Chimpo Chinn]

I have returned from a trip to Dubai with my bargirlfriend after 10 days.

She is your classic Thai lady, fucks like a mink, horny all the time, very loving. Then when she isn't working with me, she us very busy doing something. I can't imagine what.

In Pattaya, she is up for one night a week. That works for me, I can see other ladies. I don't care what she does on her own time.

I'm having a civvie come this afternoon to my condo. She has flaked before, but I don't mind, I have other stuff to do.

Tonight, a bargirl veteran is coming, but I don't think I will fuck her. To be honest, my bargirlfriend really tested my limits, and I could use a day off. Plus, I have a doubleheader tomorrow. And the next day, I have a freak lady coming for an overnighter.

I don't understand those who say that Pattaya sucks, it kind of seems like paradise to me.

Majority of guys like girls who are a bit more Stellar than the ones you and the other guy Fancy.

[HorseTrader]

I'm going to read the forum. At least the last year plus. I'm planning my trip for late July / early August, if there are any reports of distinction or Members known for being a wealth of information feel free to point them out.

"Reports of Distinction" won't do you any good; Pattaya is rediscovering itself every day, post-Covid. Read up on current reports and watch the many daily YouTubers for current information. Happy travels.

Nixonbd is right. Good sources of information are:

International Sex Guide after January 2022 - Skim most threads, read whatever interests you. Different posters have different viewpoints. Valuable posts can come from anybody.

ThePattayaNews.com - Spot read.

BangkokPost.com - Spot read.

YouTube.com - TheThaiger has frequent 10-minute video update that summarizes news around Thailand and stresses tourist related information.

YouTube.com - various walk about videos give a good vibe for how things look right then. Beware that some show old videos that don't represent current conditions.

If this is your first trip to Thailand, note that the three biggest punting destinations are Bangkok, Pattaya, and Patong (Phuket). All three have a different feel and appeal to different people. If you don’t like one, you might like the other two.

[Explorer8939]

I'm going to read the forum. At least the last year plus. I'm planning my trip for late July / early August, if there are any reports of distinction or Members known for being a wealth of information feel free to point them out.

Too much work.

Just walk down Soi 6, and you will be an experts in 24 hours.