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  1. #29095
    Quote Originally Posted by Jbatts77  [View Original Post]
    ............2) How do you decline and / or check for "lady boys"? ............
    For me the problem isn't lady boys, I can easily recognize and avoid them. The problem is post-ops who I sometimes am not able to discern. I do recognize after clothes are off and, therefore, some expense has been incurred for nothing, which happened to me once some years ago.

  2. #29094
    Quote Originally Posted by Dinghy  [View Original Post]
    By the way -most of them will tell you IF YOU ASK.
    How would you know that? How many did you need to ask to know the answer and they answered that they were in fact a LB? Common enough to get the answer that no, they are in fact a real girl.

    Seems very stupid to be asking an obvious LB whether in fact she is one. An Asshole type of question. ha ha

    Seems a bit hypothetical. It seems rude to ask to me, unless I really don't know the answer, then of course there needs to be a valid reason to be asking, otherwise, seems quite rude to be not minding one's own business, so to speak. If I ever wanted to fuck a girl, seems I am almost never unsure about her gender status. So never have occasion to ask.

    I am aware of bars existing where they had a small number of LBs since many year ago, e. G. Deja Vu was one, and it was a big secret. I was told off for asking some other real girl about my suspicions. Some customers could easily have been blindly unaware. If the customer asked them directly, I am not sure if they would try to lie or not. Many LBs pretending to be girls, had the objective to be sucking on the guys dick before "she" removed her panties, so the customer might not find out she still had a dick or a strange pussy.

  3. #29093

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Read Thai? It says mister or miss in English. You should be able to tell by the voice, look, and mannerisms before you even get to asking about an ID.
    Some of our pals want to check out hookers more than you'd check out a used car. I am simple: quacks, looks, walks, talks like a gander.

  4. #29092
    Quote Originally Posted by Dinghy  [View Original Post]
    The easiest to know if you are dealing with a lady boy is to ask to see their ID. IF you can read Thai, it says gender at birth and even though there have been attempts to allow the gender line to be revised there has been no change. By the way -most of them will tell you IF YOU ASK.
    Read Thai? It says mister or miss in English. You should be able to tell by the voice, look, and mannerisms before you even get to asking about an ID.

  5. #29091
    Quote Originally Posted by Jbatts77  [View Original Post]
    If there is a tutorial somewhere point me to it and I'll go read it but I couldn't find one searching.

    So I'm staying right next to Soi 6 and Walking Street, I have a few questions:

    1) How do I get a girl / tell a girl I'the like her to go back to my nice hotel (within walking distance)?

    2) How do you decline and / or check for "lady boys"?

    3) I'm offering all of them 700-1000 Baht; not going higher. I've learned that on here.

    I'm mostly concerned with number 1; I keep hearing it's illegal there so I don't know how you all are winding up with girls in your beds.
    The easiest to know if you are dealing with a lady boy is to ask to see their ID. IF you can read Thai, it says gender at birth and even though there have been attempts to allow the gender line to be revised there has been no change. By the way -most of them will tell you IF YOU ASK.

  6. #29090
    For those that have visited during the time: how is pattaya the week of Christmas? Have booked 23-27 (been many times before but only between March-October) December. Hotel price wasnt bad at all but how's the crowd during that week? Extreme or do-able? Or does it more so increase after the week of Christmas? Thanks.

  7. #29089
    Continuing from my last post, I was so tired from Sabai and jet lag that I fell asleep that night without going out to a gogo as planned. Should have had some ambien next time on the plane or caffeine pills on the ground. Next day in the morning I took a long stroll down beach road to see had daytime action was like. Saw a lot of older ladies sitting on blankets and other uglies aimlessly wandering around. On my stroll back down beach road, I saw a girl who looked somewhat bangable, sitting on the beach but pretty close to the road. I ventured down and said Hi, but she didn't speak English and looked confused. I tried following up with generic questions, but she just maintained a polite smile and looked confused. I gave up and headed to Soi 6.

    After walking up and down a couple times, I headed into Tomcats. I guess I came at a bad time, because I didn't see any attractive girls. There certainly were girls there, but they either had a lot of tattoos or a pudgy belly. No big deal, since there's so many other choices, and I went to Wicked next. Saw a small girl with an artsy butterfly tat on her shoulder, and she had been looking my direction for a while, so I invited her over and got an OJ, 80 baht. We got to know each other, and she let me rub her thighs and a few wick brushes against her pussy. Asked 200 for the room and 1200ST, which I accepted without bargaining. Had a very PSE, with sloppy BBBJ and multiple positions, fingering, and finish on tits. Absolute blast!

  8. #29088
    Just want to add my experience in Patts from two months ago. I booked an Airbnb right near the entrance of walking street, check in was no issue and neither was bringing girls back. I arrived in the afternoon and wanted to try something right off the bat. I've heard Pattaya wasn't the best for soapies, but I love soapies and wanted to see what they're like here. I chose Sabai Dee and was greeted with more than 20 ladies off the bat, and a helpful papa-san who pointed out eager girls. I picked a girl who was smiling a lot at me, and went to the counter to pay 2100 baht.

    Once in the room, she wanted to smoke a cig first, which I wasn't a fan of, but dealt with if it put her at ease. Anyway, we started the bath and I had a lovely time getting her to clean me thoroughly with her hands, mouth, and tits. I got a bit of BBBJ but didn't manage to cum, which I'll blame on jet lag. We moved on to the bed, put on a rubber, and continued the fun. Did a couple of positions, and in doggie, I started to massage her asshole with my thumb. She seemed into it, and said yes to if I could finger it. Should have taken this chance to ask for anal, but I was almost out of time and ready to cum doing doggie, so I let it slip away. Overall, I had a decent GFE, a good clean, and not too shabby of an experience.

  9. #29087

    Some Thoughts on Basic Forum Etiquette

    Mr. JBatts77 recently advised he had booked the Centara Pattaya Hotel, which he claimed was "right next to Soi 6 and Walking Street." In his very next post he asked: "Can someone give me advice as to whether this is a good place to stay as far as distance to Soi 6 and Walking Street?"

    Mr. 77 quoted my previous post about the value of learning the lay of the land before arriving. He quoted the link I provided to purchase a *MAP* of Pattaya for about 270 baht. But obviously he has not done his homework.

    If he had purchased the Groovy map, or looked at any online map, he would know it's impossible for any hotel to be "right next" to Soi 6 *and* Walking Street because those places are at opposite ends of town.

    It is a basic rule of all online forums that new users are expected to learn as much as possible from SELF-STUDY before asking a question. In some forums there is a Primer or a FAQ that's easy to find. (I'm thinking of the legendary Brockton O'Toole's guide to the Zona Norte in Tijuana.) Not so in this forum. Nobody is going to spoon feed you like a baby.

    But you can still learn a lot on your own. Go back 100 pages and read forward, both in this forum and in the forum with hotel reviews. Take notes for future reference. Look up unfamiliar places on Google maps. Put some time and effort into STUDYING.

    Eventually you will develop a general idea of how the naughty boy scene in Pattaya operates. You'll learn the locations of the main areas of interest and how to navigate by baht bus or on foot. You'll learn the basics of going with a girl, regardless of where you happen to find her. You'll get a handle on prices, and on how to spend your time when not on the prowl. Yes, this will require some time and effort. Yes, this is a lot like going to school. But there is no substitute. If you just show up and "wing it," you'll make stupid newbie mistakes. You'll waste precious time. You'll pay too much. You may even set yourself up to be taken advantage of in ways large or small.

    You're welcome.

    Bunky

  10. #29086
    In Pattaya I met girls with no tattoo who were great PSE in the bed and girls with alot of tattoo who were a starfish. So no logic in combining tattoos with performance IME.

    Soi 6 bars line up changes from one time to another, go there at 2 pm, at 6 pm and at 12 am you will see many different faces.

  11. #29085
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    ...

    What does having tattoos or not have to do with fucking? These days it is hard to find a chick without tattoos, pro or non-pro. I have thrown in the towel on that.
    I'd say one third of soi 6 girls untattooed. Well-tattooed girls mostly experienced all-rounders who see themselves as fuckmeat and act accordingly. The complete duds I've had in Thailand have been girls without tattoos.

    Tattoos also a good predictor of wicked sex in German FKKs.

  12. #29084
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    Line-up was way better one month ago (more girls, better quality). Is it because it is now high season and the best-looking ones get scooped up? Or is it because I go early (2 or 3 pm) and girls in high season come out later?
    Everytime I see this I am at a total lost. Soi 6 has always been Soi 6 to me. Please describe exactly what it is that you guys are looking for that you are not seeing when you say this. What exactly did you see to say there were more and the quality was better before? There are literally hundreds of chicks on this soi at any time. Are you looking for there to be thousands? How many did you plan on fucking? My problem on the soi has always been only having one dick and not not being able to find at least one chick to stick it in.

    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    If you want to make sure a girl knows hows her job better pick a girl with tattooes.
    What does having tattoos or not have to do with fucking? These days it is hard to find a chick without tattoos, pro or non-pro. I have thrown in the towel on that.

  13. #29083

    Soi 6 not at all great right now

    Line-up was way better one month ago (more girls, better quality). Is it because it is now high season and the best-looking ones get scooped up? Or is it because I go early (2 or 3 pm) and girls in high season come out later?

    Non tattooed girls are hit and miss. If you want to make sure a girl knows hows her job better pick a girl with tattooes.

  14. #29082
    Quote Originally Posted by InsolentSpike  [View Original Post]
    I'm not a drinker or party person but am intrigued about the idea of LT action.

    I have been watching countless YouTube videos and plan to check out the Beach Road Freelancers.

    Are the freelancers a good idea for LT? Many stunners from what I see in the videos.
    Nothing wrong with taking a freelancer for LT, same as anyone else. Some people will tell you it's dangerous, but I've done it and had no problems in many years. Avoid obviously high / drunk girls. Make sure she (or he) shows her ID at the reception (and perhaps that they copy it), it's for your safety as well as the hotel. In your room, don't leave valuables or jewellery out in the open, although 99% of the girls are not thieves, and wouldn't steal anything even if they had a chance.

    Some of the better looking Beach Road girls tend to have multiple customers per day, so if you prefer LT, you might have more luck later in the evening (or need to offer more money). Personally, I prefer to go for ST first to test the waters, and if the vibe is good vibe get their LINE ID and arrange for LT or a relaxed daytime session later (or simply extend it then and there if the girl is so good). Going rate for ST is 700-1000 baht, LT double that (roughly).

    Not sure which videos you're watching, but there are no stunners on Beach Road (and very few in all of Pattaya). Many girls hang around Beach Road in the evening, most are dregs, but a handful are passable.

  15. #29081
    I was in Pattaya for the 1st time for about 5 days last week of Oct. Nothing fancy in this report but thought I share my thoughts on Pattaya for ya.

    Landed in bkk and took Ann taxi to Pattaya arriving around 1230 am. On the way had this TF chick send me a massage asking if I was in Pattaya. Told her yea but she didn't believe me. Showed a pic of my boarding pass and she believed me. Got to talking to meet and finally meet at like 130 am. Got to my hotel (Acqua Hotel, BTW great hotel). Went to 7-11 and got the beer and food ready. She came over at 130 am, 23 why. O Skinny chick with nicely done boob job, no scar. Talked to her for a while about her job and life. She's from Udon Thani and tells me she's been in Pattaya for 3 weeks and works as a massage girl, no beer bar. After talking, went to do the deed and fucked her multiple positions. Cumed twice and then once by HJ. It was 5 am and I told her I kept her here long enough and I'm sure she had to go. Never asked about money, I just slid 2. 5 k and she left with a smile.

    I saw her again couple other times and we hung out in the clubs and such but she said she will be leaving to try find another job as massage isn't reliable in terms of always making money.

    Next day I went to explore this city. Many more foreigners than I expected honestly. Lots of construction going on which shows that the city reps are at least trying to take care of this city and expand I guess. Terminal 21 is awesome to get food and just chill out inside.

    I don't go to beer bars as I don't drink like that, and gogos are pretty much money drainers from what I have read so I can't comment on any. I went to one beer bar on soi 6 called Playtime?. Not sure why the fuck I went to it, I think it was playing music I liked. But went in got a rum and coke. These girls don't seem to know wtf that is. Took like 3 people to understand what rum and cokes is. Anyways this beer bar was a dub. Girl came and gave me a drink and left. 4 girls in the front, 2 with the customers, and I'm alone sipping my drink. Finished my drink and left ASAP.

    Clubs: Insomnia cool club. Lots of FL but man was it always packed with dudes. I went ever night and I believe for the majority, expect this one day where it was raining, dudes outnumbered the girls. I spoke to couple of them and they mostly were quoting 2 k ST (around 1-2 am), one said 3 k. Never bothered with any as I didn't really care was just looking to see their prices again for research purposes. I'm 100% sure I could have bought it down to 1.5 k. I suggest people negotiate to the market rate just caz these girls know they can pull a fast on from a newbie who knows nothing better.

    Lucifer Club: This club was the only club I found not to be filled to the brim with people. You could find a spot and chill and there was always FL coming and going. Girls her were also I believe more accepting of Indians as there were always Indian dudes here. Only thing with this club is the insane loud music. I know it's a club but Jesus, its legit ear rape if you stand in front.

    808 Club: Always popping with people. Attracts African Americans and lots of younger type crowd. Has rap and are+be playing. I really liked it for the music. Definitely had the hottest chicks in here IMO. Lots of smoke in here which was a problem for me. Also, not the biggest club. Most girls here were chilling with the GF with bottles in the table so kind of difficult to approach them without the right game, or if she's not smiling at you haha. Price I was quoted by 2 hot chick I asked 3 k st. There were some thicc girls there but they were scooped up by the party going dudes.

    The pier: I tired going into it but was told no. It seems its only for japs / Koreans. They sent me to this Russian booth and I just turned around and left. Probably caz they thought I was Indian even tho I'm not LOL.

    TF and Tinder: These worked great in Pattaya. Not so much in BKK tho (for me). Like I said all my girls were from TF and price seems to be cheaper here than anything as most of the TF girls are just FL who don't work in beer bars or other similar establishments. Tinder was also decent, had match but never time to meet like that. I fucked 4 girls from TF all who were all chill. 1 of them hung out like every day with me and the other one took me to Nong Nooch and we hung out there. 3 of the TF girls went for the 1.3 k rate ST except 1 who stood at 1.5 k ST. 2 of them had kids and 2 didn't.

    Daytime: Did not see too many FL on Beach road in the day time, night time you got a good amount just sanding out there but it's nothing too crazy but they are there if you want. What's the options for day time? MP / TF I guess?

    Final thoughts. Pattaya is an interesting city and as someone here said, you need to be here for months to understand the economics at play. I can say the same for BKK, which is even crazier. As for actually staying in Central Pattaya, I do feel it's over populated. I went to Jomthiem and liked it much more. If you want to monger, then yea guess staying in central is best option, but Jomehiem is more relaxing. I wish I could have gone to those smaller clubs but being a first timer with no wingman, I wasn't too comfortable going there solo.

    In regards to prices, getting 1.5 k for a ST seems to be a lot for these girls. I gave 2 of these TF girls just 300 bhat for hanging out and they couldn't believe it. Like its chump change for me but to these girls, it must be a lot. So when I hear people over pay, even tho I'm not living here, it pains my heart, knowing this is why girls come up with insane prices. Is this a correct assessment to make on the prices or am I wrong here?

    I will be back again as I know the layout of the land now. Hopefully not solo. Hanging out with a wingman makes things more fun. I would up my TF / Tinder game too before getting here, it's a little more work but 2 weeks before you come just start talking and find those freelancers. I think that's pretty much it.

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