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  1. #41922
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Really? You don't think she is pulling this kind of shit on other clients? You wouldn't want to know she does this kind of shit so you can avoid it?
    The moral of the story is that online ladies are riskier than bargirls.

    I do know online ladies who are excellent fucks, but they are rare. Bargirls worry about repeat business, and look for sponsors. Not so much TF ladies.

  2. #41921
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why? Just because his experience with her was horrible, does not mean someone else's experience with her was not great. No need for spite. YMMV.
    Really? You don't think she is pulling this kind of shit on other clients? You wouldn't want to know she does this kind of shit so you can avoid it?

  3. #41920
    Quote Originally Posted by BroComplex  [View Original Post]
    Bro that's exactly what I've been saying. If you like older women like 30+ Thailand is a heaven. I'm talking you going to have to fight the women off you with a broomstick. You going to have all the ST, LT and even LLT you want any time you want at very low prices. But if your goal is cute 18-25 years old girls then forget about it. You going to struggle between the high demand and low supply. The best you could hope for is a 2000 baht short time where you cum and they leave. Long gone the days of LLT with attractive women.

    If your goal is LLT girlfriend experience with a young attractive girl the Philippines is the way to go.
    I wouldn't say "struggle", still plenty of decent looking 18-24 year olds out there in Pattaya but. There is a downwards trend for sure I fully agree with you there. So if you are into fresh pussy it did definitely get a bit more difficult over the years. And with how supply and demand works its not going to get better again, unless there is like a 2nd pandemic that shuts the country down for 2 years.

    But even then. Girls are alot more comfortable with Tiktok, IG and Onlyfans (and selling nudes for good cash) than just 2-3 years ago.

    Onlyfans is the fking bane of mens existence but people are too dopamine addicted to realize it.

  4. #41919
    Quote Originally Posted by Argo1990  [View Original Post]
    Was in Pattaya a few weeks ago. Been many many times already so it was far from my first rodeo.

    As usual I started my afternoons at soi6 for some drinks and a shorttime before moving on to Treetown or LK Metro area for the 2nd pump of the day.

    As many will be able to attest and at the expense of sounding like a doomsday priest, Pattaya keeps getting shittier from year to year (which is why I am looking into Colombia recently, any tips welcome via DM). Still the top destination in my book simply for the sheer quantity of pussy getting thrown at you but social media and onlyfans have heavily affected the upper class market (top tier girls between 18-22).

    Those specific girls on thaifriendly and tinder have become considerably more flaky in recent years because they get spammed offers all day long.

    Now that is not to say that there are no girls. Pattaya is still FULL of reasonably priced pussy ranging from 1500ST to 3000ST but as someone that has been coming since 2012 the decline in quality paired with increase in girl attitude and pricing is very very noticable.

    When I visited in 2012 I was a super noob. Did not know anything about mongering and would just accept any price. But back then I paid like 2 k for a full day with a 19 year old that I pounded like 4 times a day.

    Things have changed indeed.
    Bro that's exactly what I've been saying. If you like older women like 30+ Thailand is a heaven. I'm talking you going to have to fight the women off you with a broomstick. You going to have all the ST, LT and even LLT you want any time you want at very low prices. But if your goal is cute 18-25 years old girls then forget about it. You going to struggle between the high demand and low supply. The best you could hope for is a 2000 baht short time where you cum and they leave. Long gone the days of LLT with attractive women.

    If your goal is LLT girlfriend experience with a young attractive girl the Philippines is the way to go.

  5. #41918
    Was in Pattaya a few weeks ago. Been many many times already so it was far from my first rodeo.

    As usual I started my afternoons at soi6 for some drinks and a shorttime before moving on to Treetown or LK Metro area for the 2nd pump of the day.

    As many will be able to attest and at the expense of sounding like a doomsday priest, Pattaya keeps getting shittier from year to year (which is why I am looking into Colombia recently, any tips welcome via DM). Still the top destination in my book simply for the sheer quantity of pussy getting thrown at you but social media and onlyfans have heavily affected the upper class market (top tier girls between 18-22).

    Those specific girls on thaifriendly and tinder have become considerably more flaky in recent years because they get spammed offers all day long.

    Now that is not to say that there are no girls. Pattaya is still FULL of reasonably priced pussy ranging from 1500ST to 3000ST but as someone that has been coming since 2012 the decline in quality paired with increase in girl attitude and pricing is very very noticable.

    When I visited in 2012 I was a super noob. Did not know anything about mongering and would just accept any price. But back then I paid like 2 k for a full day with a 19 year old that I pounded like 4 times a day.

    Things have changed indeed.

  6. #41917

    Day 20/21: Back to Pattaya

    Buses now depart from outside SM Mall in Angeles and go directly to the airport using Manila's excellent expressway. My bus departed at 9. 30 am and pulled up infront of Terminal 1 at 11.20 am, less than two hours later (and that included a ten minute drop-off at Terminal 3). It cost 410 pesos and I would highly recommend it. Buses depart at half past the hour from from 2. 30 am to 10.30 pm.

    The ride gave me a good opportunity to reflect on my time in Angeles. I enjoyed visiting a year ago but now more bars are open and there are lots more girls. I barfined some absolute gems, some of the best girls I've been with in Philippines. The girls from Genesis, Dollhouse and Avalon were spectacular. Perimeter Road is opening up again and there is a reasonable freelance scene too. The place is on an upwards trajectory. Whenever people use a word to describe Angeles the only adjective they seem to be able to find is 'shithole'. It isn't that bad. The place doesn't have much ambiance and there's little to do apart from girlie action but if you pick a nice hotel, you can have a great time in Angeles. It's a sweet shop.

    My flight took three hours and included possibly the worst turbulence I've ever encountered as we approached Bangkok. At first people ignored it but then it got worse and there was nervous laughter, then the plane started being buffeted all over the place and my empty cup was thrown from my table. I was pleased to reach terra firma and the immigration queue at Suvanarbhumi was surprisingly small. I got a yellow taxi outside to take me to Pattaya.

    Once again I'm staying at Vogue Hotel. The location is great, just off soi Lengkee, the rooms are spacious and clean and they always seem to have good deals on Agoda. My room is costing about 800 baht a night.

    The time was 7. 40 pm and ordinarily I'd have been keen to bounce straight back out but I'd been feeling ropy all day and as the day progressed felt progressively worse. I've been feeling run down the past few days, going out every night for three weeks drinking alcohol has caught up with me. I've also got an annoying cough due to all of the cigarette smoke in bars. I went to a local pharmacy and bought some medicine and decided to take the evening off.

    Next day I still felt rough. I've noticed I often pick things up in Philippines. I spent a lazy afternoon reading and watching YouTube on my phone but as it started to get dark outside I began to feel considerably better. My cough was gone, largely thanks to the honey and lemon ice tea I bought from a 7 Eleven. I felt fit enough to find a girl.

    However, I had to be sensible. Visiting smoky bars would almost certainly set my chest off again and I didn't want to consume any alcohol for the same reason.

    For a brief period I thought I'd lined up a Tinder meet, a curvy black girl with outrageously large blowjob lips, but she quoted 3000 short-time, aka gogo prices! My top level for freelancers is 1500, which is what I paid for the tall Nigerian I met earlier in the trip, who was easily on par. She came down to 2000 but wouldn't go any lower.

    There was only one thing for it, a trip to soi Honey. Although I've taken two nice girls from this street earlier on the trip, I've probably walked up the street 10 further times and been underwhelmed. On those occasions it didn't matter as I had plenty of other options, like soi 6 for example, but tonight I didn't have the luxury of a backup plan. It was soi Honey or nothing.

    A cluster of eager girls were sat outside Paradise and Up to You next door. I continued walking and saw girls sat outside Runway and Pink Lady. These are essentially soi 6 bars on soi Honey, with short-time rooms upstairs. One girl made me hesitate. She was youngish and a definite contender. I wasn't in the hunt for perfection tonight, I just wanted a quick fuck with a reasonably pretty girl. And that's exactly what I found a little further up the road, a curvy Lao girl with a nice smile. The cost was 1300 all-in.

    There was no pretense at a massage. She rubbed oil on my chest and immediately began stroking Lancelot junior. She gave an excellent blow-job and then we had sex in a few positions, always awkward on a hard single bed. So much so I took the condom off and she finished me off with an excellent handjob.

    Not only was it an enjoyable quickie, I felt absolutely fine throughout. If this was a fitness test, I'd passed with flying colours.

    I've got eight more nights in Pattaya before I fly home to England.

  7. #41916
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    You may want to block her in TF. When you do so TF will ask you why you block her. Just write something like "horrible experience". This may contribute to weeding out the rotten apples.
    Why? Just because his experience with her was horrible, does not mean someone else's experience with her was not great. No need for spite. YMMV.

  8. #41915
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the replies and advice. Unfortunately today was not my day. Initially I was thanking my lucky stars that a young 21 yr good looking chick is finally coming to meet. She was not budging from 2000 baht so I agreed. But alas, my excitement was soon going to turn into a big disappointment.

    ...


    Sometimes I wonder maybe it's better that such rotten girls don't agree to meet us!
    You may want to block her in TF. When you do so TF will ask you why you block her. Just write something like "horrible experience". This may contribute to weeding out the rotten apples.

  9. #41914
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    Forgot to mention, she also took photos of the hotel, the lift and even my room number and shared with me saying she wanted to confirm. Definitely she had some plans, just in case I refused to pay the agreed amount!
    LOL. No. They do that to make sure they are in the right place, not for some ulterior motive. How did she know your room number? When chicks come to my apartment they always ask for the room number. I tell them I have to open the door anyway so just send me a message when they are downstairs.

    I have never understood why people say you get what you pay for. 2000 baht short time and had a shitty time. I have never even paid 2000 for long time and 99% have a great time. Before I agreed to 2000 short time for a chick I have never laid eyes on, I would be on Soi 6 or at one these gentleman's clubs / BJ bars for the 1000 to 1400. In my opinion it is less money for more fun. But then again I make my own fun so it does not matted where I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    While leaving she says good bye with a smile. I said I am not happy she didn't even acknowledge it, just opened the door and left. Wow, just wow!
    Maybe you missed my post about the importance of a foreigner and what he thinks come right after the importance of the fleas on their dog. No need in wasting your breath saying you were not happy. But I guess you saw that first hand.
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  10. #41913
    Forgot to mention, she also took photos of the hotel, the lift and even my room number and shared with me saying she wanted to confirm. Definitely she had some plans, just in case I refused to pay the agreed amount!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the replies and advice. Unfortunately today was not my day. Initially I was thanking my lucky stars that a young 21 yr good looking chick is finally coming to meet. She was not budging from 2000 baht so I agreed. But alas, my excitement was soon going to turn into a big disappointment.

    1st red flag was she bypassed reception. I had asked her to come to lobby and message me but she directly went to elevator and asked for my floor and room number. I thought she might have submitted her ID and then came up. I realised what she did when there was no call from reception after she left.

    2nd red flag. The moment she entered the room she had a mood off face. So much that I asked her if she is tired or drunk but she replied in negative. When I tried to kiss she was pushing me away saying my beard hurts her. Tried to kiss boobs, got same response. Started with boom boom but within 3 minutes says you are hurting me I won't continue. Left for shower, came back and started wearing clothes. I told her atleast finish with hand, she looked at me with a very angry look. To be honest throughout her short stay she did not smile even once and kept murmuring things in Thai. I thought better not to escalate the situation and handed over the agreed 2000 baht which she gladly accepted.

    While leaving she says good bye with a smile. I said I am not happy she didn't even acknowledge it, just opened the door and left. Wow, just wow!

    Sometimes I wonder maybe it's better that such rotten girls don't agree to meet us!

  11. #41912

    Horrible TF experience!

    Thanks for the replies and advice. Unfortunately today was not my day. Initially I was thanking my lucky stars that a young 21 yr good looking chick is finally coming to meet. She was not budging from 2000 baht so I agreed. But alas, my excitement was soon going to turn into a big disappointment.

    1st red flag was she bypassed reception. I had asked her to come to lobby and message me but she directly went to elevator and asked for my floor and room number. I thought she might have submitted her ID and then came up. I realised what she did when there was no call from reception after she left.

    2nd red flag. The moment she entered the room she had a mood off face. So much that I asked her if she is tired or drunk but she replied in negative. When I tried to kiss she was pushing me away saying my beard hurts her. Tried to kiss boobs, got same response. Started with boom boom but within 3 minutes says you are hurting me I won't continue. Left for shower, came back and started wearing clothes. I told her atleast finish with hand, she looked at me with a very angry look. To be honest throughout her short stay she did not smile even once and kept murmuring things in Thai. I thought better not to escalate the situation and handed over the agreed 2000 baht which she gladly accepted.

    While leaving she says good bye with a smile. I said I am not happy she didn't even acknowledge it, just opened the door and left. Wow, just wow!

    Sometimes I wonder maybe it's better that such rotten girls don't agree to meet us!

  12. #41911
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    What's the modus operandi for TF. I updated my headline as "looking for short time 1500 baht" as suggested by one monger here. Lots of chicks showing interest but only few are good looking and they are not replying to messages. Only average lookers are messaging.
    Even upgraded to premium to chat with the "popular" profiles but they are also not viewing messages!
    Change your headline to "In Pattaya now". Works for me anyway. I get more messages since I put this in my headline, when I'm there.
    The reason is that the girls get many messages from men that don't have boots on the ground (yet).

    And yes, average and below average lookers are messaging the most. But every now and then (and sometimes even quite often, it's very unpredictable) I get a message or a like from an above average girl, and that makes it all worthwhile.

  13. #41910
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    What's the modus operandi for TF. I updated my headline as "looking for short time 1500 baht" as suggested by one monger here. Lots of chicks showing interest but only few are good looking and they are not replying to messages. Only average lookers are messaging.

    Even upgraded to premium to chat with the "popular" profiles but they are also not viewing messages!
    Popular profiles are often little short of being scams. I'm sure some are ghost profiles (men hiding behind girls' pics?).

    Look at the TF girl below. I had that girl coming to my room once. She was ten years older that her pic. She is regularly "popular" on TF with the very same picture. I'm sure she has zero repeat clients.

    Another one who often makes it into the popular chart is one that goes by the name Kaewkiss (you can look her up). She went as far as giving me her Line once but then all I could get from her on Line were some "hi's" and "hello's". I'm sure if I'd got her to agree to meet me she would have stood me up.

    I no longer pay any attention to "popular" profiles on TF. To me they've become a no-no.

    As to getting messages only from non-lookers, join the club. Note that if and whenever you manage to get a decent-looking one to reply, getting her to ACTUALLY come instead of wasting your time is anything but guaranteed.
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  14. #41909
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    What's the modus operandi for TF. I updated my headline as "looking for short time 1500 baht" as suggested by one monger here. Lots of chicks showing interest but only few are good looking and they are not replying to messages. Only average lookers are messaging.

    Even upgraded to premium to chat with the "popular" profiles but they are also not viewing messages!
    First off, popular profiles is a scam. They do that to get you to pay. Still well worth paying for me living here. I get a yearly subscription.

    Second, it does not matter what you write because nobody reads profiles. Just like most things in life it is a numbers game. I have said many times and shown many examples here how messing with these women is like herding cats.

    You just have to roll with the box of chocolates theory. You never know what you are going to get. And in the case of TF you never know when you are going to get it.

    The other day I met a new girlfriend (no money required) on TF. She works at a massage shop. I invited her to see that new Korean flick Exhuma that I planned on seeing. Movie started at 1230 the next day. I hit her up at 10:30 asking if she was getting ready. No answer. I called no answer. 12 pm I did the same. 12:15 she called me back saying she just woke up and had to get in the shower. We arrived at the movie at 12:40. It was her first time ever in life going to see a movie by the way. She said she probably would have never showed up (due to being scared), but I mentioned going to a movie and it piqued her interest.

    During the movie she kept saying how hungry she was. I gave her money to go get popcorn. That was not enough. Eventually she had to leave to go get food. She came back just as the credits started rolling.

    We went to my room after the movie and she tried to tear my clothes off. Later that evening we went to eat at Theprassit market before going back to my place. She cuddled on me the entire night and I woke up in the morning to my dick in her mouth.

    Thai Friendly is like fishing dude. You can have one on the hook and think you are reeling it in, just for it to jump off the line for no apparent reason. Then all of a sudden you can get a big catch when you are not expecting it. So do not get yourself set on one particular chick. I have deleted (on Line) way more than I have met over the years. I have not met chicks until years after our initial TF contact. That is how it was with the hair stylist in Bangkok that I travel with now. Met her on TF during covid and for some reason she would never come to Pattaya. Finally came 1 year ago after so much teeth pulling. Now she can not get enough of me. Numbers game.

  15. #41908

    TF modus operandi

    What's the modus operandi for TF. I updated my headline as "looking for short time 1500 baht" as suggested by one monger here. Lots of chicks showing interest but only few are good looking and they are not replying to messages. Only average lookers are messaging.

    Even upgraded to premium to chat with the "popular" profiles but they are also not viewing messages!

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