Pattaya Reports

[Stinky Squid]

Ok, point taken. But for how long is this type of behavior going to work without adversely affecting the demand side of the equation. I for one won't put up with it. I know of other mongering destinations besides LOS where the girls are still attentive and super friendly to their potential customers. Back to Pattaya, significantly fewer customers at these bars will mean less profits or no profits and the new business model will fail.

That is the hope anyway. I mean I don't know anybody who will fly 10 to 24 hours to a mongering destination to not get laid or put up with disinterested, spoiled, little prima donnas. But what do I know? Maybe the relaxed marijuana rules along with the addition of weed shops everywhere will change the paradigm. Maybe the new generation of woke male visitors don't want to boom boom. We will just have to see what happens, but most of mongering friends are already going elsewhere.

Axel is getting the gist. It's not just me. When things go to shit, it happens slowly, and then suddenly. Isugget to the bar owners here to get ready to invest elsewhere. This business model is unsustainable. I am invested in a pharmacy and my operation manager insists on treating customers with kindness and warmth. Once the guys stop pretending and upholding this sharade everything will collapse rapidly. So either fix this now or get ready for a big collapse. You won't likely get lucky to own the Mulain Ruge selling drinks with the name of "blow jog" to middle aged tourist couples.

[Stinky Squid]

I just walked down soi 6 again as they close to see if qt this time anything is different. I see desperate dudes making a forced smile to a shit experience of getting ignored. I literally stare girls in their face smiling to see if anyone takes their last chance of the day. Nothing. I actually am laughing at this bullshit. Thailand is a shit place, and whatever this bar owner here says is a lie. These girls are lazy. And sure you can put a good spin on this, of course they are smart. Women alway everywhere try to get away with least amount of inconvenience. My point is here they are somehow spoiled to the max. This place is worthless. Sure you can squeeze out some mechanical sex. Sure you can be in your prime when you should pick up grirls for free anywhere in the world (so what are you doing here bragging while you pay for sex?) This place is shit. And what do I get better in south America? To start with: a brain to talk with. Even venezuelan girls who hate the business at least some are smart enough to connect human to human when someone meets them as a human. Others have conversation and we can talk about what we like in sex, and then do it. I can't even get off on vanilla sex, and hey, it's not mish position that sucks, its doggy style. The epitome of disconnected motions. No connection whatsoever. I had girls on TF respond so rude they are only intersted in ST fuck and go. Why would I even waste my time on something that starts out so unfriendly?

Now do me a favor and don't all come to Brazil to spoil it here. Stay in your Pattaya shithole and gp through the motions. Buy that lady drink for a girl who has no intention to please you.

[Axel Heyst]

Let's see: she makes enough in salary on the job that she doesn't have to do any dirty work. Seems pretty smart to me, adequate salary while avoiding the hard (pun intended) work. Sure, you're disappointed that she's not eager to service you (that's 2nd person plural), but that's her decision. Nothing lazy about it. Her job is to bring in cash for the bar, how she successfully does it is up to her. Free market.

Ok, point taken. But for how long is this type of behavior going to work without adversely affecting the demand side of the equation. I for one won't put up with it. I know of other mongering destinations besides LOS where the girls are still attentive and super friendly to their potential customers. Back to Pattaya, significantly fewer customers at these bars will mean less profits or no profits and the new business model will fail.

That is the hope anyway. I mean I don't know anybody who will fly 10 to 24 hours to a mongering destination to not get laid or put up with disinterested, spoiled, little prima donnas. But what do I know? Maybe the relaxed marijuana rules along with the addition of weed shops everywhere will change the paradigm. Maybe the new generation of woke male visitors don't want to boom boom. We will just have to see what happens, but most of mongering friends are already going elsewhere.

[Mr Enternational]

But I do agree that High Season creates a sellers' market, so I am heading to Brazil for the duration.

Don't go. People were saying high season is the moment they had been waiting for because there are more girls.

[11Bravo]

As tough as it might be, the bitter realization that everyone seems to agree is that girls are lazy. It is precisely what I felt when walking down Soi 6 every single time. They are lazy as fuck and completely disinterested, choosy, unwelcoming. I keep tormenting myself if that is just because of me (despite my Senior Status I am not an experienced monger at all and have my personal hang-ups) OR if there is something untoward going on. And it is clear that others far more experienced than me are reporting similar patterns: lazy girls who are sitting on a handsome salary not even needing to bar-fine any more. So this means going to a go-go (where at least there are dozens and dozens of girls to choose from, not just a hand-full of lazy ones messing with their phones) even when ready to pay the truly exorbitant 1500 to 2500 just for bar fine, then on top trying to compete against the handsome package they have trying to get her to go with you, this all puts a major bummer over the whole experience.

Let's see: she makes enough in salary on the job that she doesn't have to do any dirty work. Seems pretty smart to me, adequate salary while avoiding the hard (pun intended) work. Sure, you're disappointed that she's not eager to service you (that's 2nd person plural), but that's her decision. Nothing lazy about it. Her job is to bring in cash for the bar, how she successfully does it is up to her. Free market.

[Tim Timms]

I'm bar owner. I contract girl for one month salary for 10,000 which is say $300.

She isn't getting a dime unless she sell $600 worth of drinks. Do you all see a problem.

No way is a bar owner going to pay $300 for a girl to just be there.

[Mr Enternational]

As tough as it might be, the bitter realization that everyone seems to agree is that girls are lazy. It is precisely what I felt when walking down Soi 6 every single time. They are lazy as fuck and completely disinterested, choosy, unwelcoming. I keep tormenting myself if that is just because of me (despite my Senior Status I am not an experienced monger at all and have my personal hang-ups) OR if there is something untoward going on. And it is clear that others far more experienced than me are reporting similar patterns: lazy girls who are sitting on a handsome salary not even needing to bar-fine any more. So this means going to a go-go (where at least there are dozens and dozens of girls to choose from, not just a hand-full of lazy ones messing with their phones) even when ready to pay the truly exorbitant 1500 to 2500 just for bar fine, then on top trying to compete against the handsome package they have trying to get her to go with you, this all puts a major bummer over the whole experience.
But the problem right now aren't even the excess of blokes (except on ThaiFriendly, which I believe is an extremely fast seller's market right now) so much as the excess of bars competing for girls paying them exorbitant salaries leaving them lazy.

What are you going to do in South America that you are not going to do here? Surely you are not going to be walking down a Soi 6 type place being able to complain that chicks are not interested.

What are your priorities? Do you want to drink? Do you want to party? Do you want to fuck? My priority is chicks to fuck. And I have never had a problem with that in Pattaya as long as I have been able to walk around and talk to any random chick and there has been a Thai Friendly.

If I was the type of guy that felt he had to go to a bar or gogo and spend a ton on drinks before he could get laid then maybe I would be trying to run off somewhere else too. I have never reported that one must go to a bar in Pattaya. All that is needed is to walk past any random chick and say where are you going.

To me this place is paradise and I have no complaints. I have even been giving chicks a raise. I used to pay 1000 for all night now I have stepped it up to 1200. There has been no shortage of pussy for me. And I am not even mentioning normal free chicks with regular jobs. TF chick came over last night. I told her to open wide. She said do you see how big your dick is and how small my mouth is. Then I was admiring her body with some kisses. She said are you going to be kissing all night or are you going to fuck me. She left this morning at 10 having to go to temple after getting fucked again.

Seriously in all these years with hundreds of chicks I have had only 2 bad experiences. That is the chick that karate kicked my TV that time and a girl that came in scared to death praying that I had to throw out. I do not get the lazy chicks that you are talking about. Maybe that is because I do not do my shopping at bars and gogos. Fuck that middle man BS. Take me straight to the source.

[Explorer8939]

There are plenty of alternatives to Soi 6 and gogos, just go to Soi Chaiyapoon, where the ladies are not so lazy.

But I do agree that High Season creates a sellers' market, so I am heading to Brazil for the duration.

[Tim Timms]

I think some pretty serious realization sets in the last 20 pages. I wasn't so wrong with being grumpy. Currently I need to decide whether I stay here or go back to South America, and I am vacillating on a twice daily basis. Either I leave on Monday or I extend my stay for another 45 days. Started to look up yesterday, looking forward to do some go-go bars in fact, even not caring by the fact that prices are frankly through the roof. But what is giving me major second thoughts now is reviewing the last 20 pages, and also have been checking out some long term Pattaya guru on YouTube "everything Pattaya" channel.

As tough as it might be, the bitter realization that everyone seems to agree is that girls are lazy. It is precisely what I felt when walking down Soi 6 every single time. They are lazy as fuck and completely disinterested, choosy, unwelcoming. I keep tormenting myself if that is just because of me (despite my Senior Status I am not an experienced monger at all and have my personal hang-ups) OR if there is something untoward going on. And it is clear that others far more experienced than me are reporting similar patterns: lazy girls who are sitting on a handsome salary not even needing to bar-fine any more. So this means going to a go-go (where at least there are dozens and dozens of girls to choose from, not just a hand-full of lazy ones messing with their phones) even when ready to pay the truly exorbitant 1500 to 2500 just for bar fine, then on top trying to compete against the handsome package they have trying to get her to go with you, this all puts a major bummer over the whole experience..

Not to rub it in but.

In my experience Soi 6 girls have always looked disinterested, even offended if you google them PRECovid. Nothing new there.

Trust me Pattaya Agogo girls aren't any different from Soi 6 as far as attitude.

I've never seen such a bunch of not bad lookers at Happy who just weren't interested in customers. PRE COVID, I surmised they knew they weren't getting Barfined. Just watch the clock from start of shift.

[Stinky Squid]

I think some pretty serious realization sets in the last 20 pages. I wasn't so wrong with being grumpy. Currently I need to decide whether I stay here or go back to South America, and I am vacillating on a twice daily basis. Either I leave on Monday or I extend my stay for another 45 days. Started to look up yesterday, looking forward to do some go-go bars in fact, even not caring by the fact that prices are frankly through the roof. But what is giving me major second thoughts now is reviewing the last 20 pages, and also have been checking out some long term Pattaya guru on YouTube "everything Pattaya" channel.

As tough as it might be, the bitter realization that everyone seems to agree is that girls are lazy. It is precisely what I felt when walking down Soi 6 every single time. They are lazy as fuck and completely disinterested, choosy, unwelcoming. I keep tormenting myself if that is just because of me (despite my Senior Status I am not an experienced monger at all and have my personal hang-ups) OR if there is something untoward going on. And it is clear that others far more experienced than me are reporting similar patterns: lazy girls who are sitting on a handsome salary not even needing to bar-fine any more. So this means going to a go-go (where at least there are dozens and dozens of girls to choose from, not just a hand-full of lazy ones messing with their phones) even when ready to pay the truly exorbitant 1500 to 2500 just for bar fine, then on top trying to compete against the handsome package they have trying to get her to go with you, this all puts a major bummer over the whole experience.

The explosion of tourists (which, after that crazy fireworks weekend isn't sooo crazy any more) anyway doesn't help. But the problem right now aren't even the excess of blokes (except on ThaiFriendly, which I believe is an extremely fast seller's market right now) so much as the excess of bars competing for girls paying them exorbitant salaries leaving them lazy. This is in part a temporary market distortion, because of the CoViD dead-stop reorienting a percentage of girls to do other things, and to a good amount their efforts have been redirected to virtual shit for myriads of simps sitting in their homes and tipping on OnlyFans. This has seriously damaged the whole situation. Influx of Laotian and Cambodian girls is the only hope to rectify the situation.

I would think that coming back in about a year might be better than trying to hang out here.

Another thing that I have found very difficult to deal with so far is the lack of communication. I can do Spanish and Portuguese with ease or at least good enough to express myself and negotiate. Here with the almost non-existing English it is very difficult.

I will see what strikes me until Monday. But I won't even cancel my ticket 24 hours in advance and instead risk paying $50 extra in late cancellation fine should I decide on the last minute to extend my stay. Not looking good. I can deal with the out of control prices, but not with the bullshit of girls who don't even want to be bar fined because making quota on these stupid drinks and happy with their excessive salaries are lazy.

And yes, of course it's better than Paris France or New York or Nakhon Nowhere. But I am done fighting an uphill battle when I have a life to pick up in what I think is an actual paradise for me.

[Sir Lancelot]

Before I post the final day of my diary tomorrow, I'm posting day 15 because I realise I forgot to post it. Although it's out of order, it doesn't make a big difference and hopefully there's some useful information in there for someone.

Day 15: school tomorrow

I had a much needed foot massage after breakfast, at Massaging Hands on soi Lengkee. Something unusual happened. The girl doing it was young and pretty but she'd barely been going ten minutes when a fat old Chinese man waddled in and an older lady told me she'd take over my massage as the man had booked the pretty girl. The young girl followed him in to a curtained cubicle and seconds later walked past with two cuddly toys he'd bought her, which she sat on the counter next to a collection of other cuddly toys.

I didn't mind. I prefer older masseurs as they are generally more skilled. She had strong hands too. I must admit, when she was digging her elbows in to my shins it felt like some kind of medieval torture. I felt like waving the white flag but bravely soldiered on and felt great afterwards. It cost 150 baht for an hour.

Early afternoon I felt like a bit of action but didn't have much luck. Soi Pothole was barren and soi Honey had slim pickings. I remember years ago these streets had a winning combination of pretty younger girls and foxy older chicks, but now the talent is sparse.

I took a songthaew up to soi 6, as I wanted to see a sexy girl I've been exchanging messages with on Line.

Soi 6 was fairly quiet. I remember my Mr Miagi like mentor coaching me years ago that soi 6 was a place for afternoon action but this trip has confirmed that it only really gets busy from early evening onwards.

My target was Aom's One Stop Shop and I was happy to see my favourite girl sat outside. She seemed pleased to see me and I bought her a drink.

In this diary I've spoken several times about being in the right place at the right time but on this occasion my fortune deserted me. The only other customer in the bar was a middle aged Korean man who bought a tray full of tequila shots for six girls who screamed excitedly at such extravagance. Five minutes later he bought another six shots, as my girl watched on enviously. I asked her how much to go upstairs but she told me she didn't go with customers. I don't blame her. Why spread your legs when you can get ladydrinks bought for you by fuckwits like him every two minutes?

I abandoned my plans for an afternoon hookup and returned to my hotel for a swim. It's been hot today, so it was a welcome chance to cool down.

It proved to be an entertaining evening.

We started with a drink at Vixen but the pretty girl I've bar-fined twice was with another customer, a chunky guy with a ginger beard. I didn't mind at all (it saved me the cost of a ladydrink!) but decided to have a bit of fun with her. I took a photo of myself looking sad, crying in to my Chang beer, with her in the background being groped by another customer. I sent it to her and a few minutes later she replied with a crying emoji.

Then I did some Oscar-worthy acting. I needed the toilet and trudged disconsolately past her, my bottom lip quivering. Perhaps I was guilty of over-acting as the girls behind the bar burst out laughing. Coincidentally her customer needed the toilet straight after me and when the door closed behind him she sprung towards me and planted two big smackers on my lips.

Although it was Saturday night, Tree Town was quiet at 7 pm. We sat at Buddy Bar, which had a collection of about 15 thirty-something girls, then went to the lovely Jen's bar. She looked fabulous in a tight white dress and had neon green nails, but she too was all over a customer.

In my earlier years seeing a girl I like with another customer affected me but you have to learn to detach yourself. The girls are just doing their job, weaving their magic on as many guys as possible.

At Area 52 Sam bought a drink for his favourite girl. She's a young looking girl so I smiled at the irony that a rock band was playing 'Sweet Child of Mine' in the bar next door. There are a number of pretty girls at this bar but I have my eyes firmly set on one, who in nearly two weeks I haven't been able to get close to due to other customers.

My phone pinged. It was the beautiful 21 year old mall girl telling me she was off work on Tuesday and asking whether I'd like to go and see a movie with her. What an unexpected surprise. 'Sounds good' I replied.

Owen got chatting with a subscriber to his Youtube channel who he saw walking past, a big Alaskan man who joined us for the rest of the night. We went to Moonlight and got a good table at the front of the bar, a prime perving spot. There are some very pretty girls in this bar. My favourite has the face of a model but always looks so serious. In several visits I don't recall seeing her smile once, but then again she always seems to be at the side of a stern-faced older Korean, who usually make little effort to engage the girls.

My phone buzzed again in my pocket. It was the beautiful 21 year old mall girl telling me that she couldn't meet on Tuesday after all as she just realised she has other plans. Sigh. She'd later confessed to me, very apologetically, that she has a boyfriend. I was disappointed but flattered she even considered it in the first place.

We went back to Angel & Monster, the round bar elevated from street level near the entrance to Tree Town. What makes this bar unique is that the girls dance on a stage around chrome poles, so you can see them from the street instead of having to go inside a gogo bar. One of the dancers is very sexy with big tits and a dazzling smile.

I love girls with a sense of humour. On my first week I barfined a girl from Oh Bar but ever since when I've returned she's always sat with a customer. Tonight was no exception. We've got this jokey thing where we'll exchange evil stares whenever we see each other, so when I walked in she put her arm around her customer's shoulder, as if to give him a hug, but in actual fact it was an excuse to pull the middle finger at me!

We had fun talking Thai to a girl at Lunar Bar (Owen made me say to her 'my name is Mr Dirty') and then went to Mischief bar nearby. The barfine here is 500.

The time was 11.30 and time for me to go in to 'lone wolf mode' to find my 20th girl of the trip.

The standout girl for me was the dancer at Angels & Demons so I returned and bought her a drink. She took a sip before resuming her sexy moves on the stage. Then I realised that this bar completely relies on the dancers to pull customers in, so they're not going to want their sexiest dancer to leave the bar. True enough, when I enquired about her barfine, she told me 'boss not let me leave'. A few minutes later as I was paying my chit, she changed her tune. She knelt in front of me and told me 'barfine 1500'. As sexy as she is, it's too much.

After a quick sweep around the likely areas, I bought a drink for a cute girl at a beer bar called Inn Love on soi Diana. Most of the ladies at this bar complex are 30 plus but she was just 19 and oozed innocent appeal. She hardly spoke a word of English but made an effort and was very giggly too.

The barfine was a measly 300 baht and she quoted 2000 for short-time, but accepted 1500.

In the room she was good fun and an enthusiastic kisser. The sex was great but when she was getting ready to leave she said something which made my heart skip a beat.

'Go now, have school tomorrow'.

She went on to explain she's learning accountancy. Phew.

[Explorer8939]

Because covid showed them fuck that bar shit. And my friends say the chicks that are working in them are happy with the 10,000 baht they get just to sell drinks without having to boom boom.

Another factor is that bar owners have learned that bars require lots of ladies to attract customers.

Also, many bars have opened in a compressed timeline in recent months, and they all want lots of girls.

After High Season, bars will reduce hiring, so things will go back to normal. And not so many new bars will open.

So, in a few months, it will be hard for ladies to find work at a decent salary.

And, a lot of bars will have small staffs again, as owners tighten their belts for Low Season.

[Vector313]

Do not underestimate 10 years ago foreign comfort girl were denied work permits- so to say. They went back home. Hahaha.

Puzzling to me is with less girls why hasn't Soi 6 girls been able to raise prices. Is the quality that Horrendous. I kind of know the answer, I'm asking Rhetorically.

I think we have go through the details of why raising prices isn't feasible for pattaya anymore. Just go back a few pages. The quality isn't horrendous, but it just doesn't shine enough to justify higher pricing.

[Paolo99]

That evening I entered the soi from second road and walked slowly but didn't click with any girl before the end of the soi. Then in one bar on the right hand side, I see that girl looking at me and laughing. I smile back while I keep walking, reach the end of the soi and think that I should go and see her at closer range.

Unfortunately when I come back she is in a deep talk with her friend and doesn't look at me, so I keep on walking and eventually arrive at the end of the soi without noticing any girl that I would want to spend time with. I decide to go eat something in Terminal21 instead of doing the whole soi once again.

1 h later I enter the soi from Beach road this time, hoping that the girl is still sitting outside. I spot her and she is still laughing at me, I come close to her and she points at her friend as if she is asking me "you want her? I say "no I want you", she gets up, take my hand and we get inside. It was already 22 o'clock, not many customers or girls inside.

The place looks good downstairs, it's a closed bar and we can hear each other properly. While she comes and go to get my beer I see she is tall, slim, wears a nice evening blue dress (given by the bar management) and I just think about putting my hands on that beautifull ass.

She is not the typical flat ass Thai girl, that ass has some good forms, combined to her slim waist and beautifull long legs, she easily stands out compared to all the shorties and oldies that one is used to see around Pattaya.

She tells me it's her first day (I think fuck, again an inexperienced girl), she used to work in 7/11 in North Pattaya before coming here. She comes from Korat (Dad from Korat (Nakhon Ratchasima), and mom from Bkk), she's got long black hairs but doesn't let them flowing down her shoulders because she is lazy to take care of them.

She loves tatoo, her right arm is full of small tatoos (not good looking) and she's got a very big unfinished one in her back (a beautifull tatoo representing a Japanese Geisha). I think she wants to be fully inked, once she'll have enough money to pay them.

Downstairs, she says she is shy, I can still touch her lightly, and realise that her ass is not just beautifull but feels good too.

We have a bit of chitchat untill we finish our drinks and I ask her if she'll still be shy upstairs, and she says "no, upstairs, I will not shy, here I'm shy because I know nobody in that bar, it's my first day, I don't want these people (the coworkers and management) see me being touched".

Price for the room is the highest I've met in soi6 (420), LD (130, a beat cheaper that other places) and my beer was 85 (cheap), she asked 1000 and I was very pleased to take her upstairs (she's got a pretty face too).

Upstairs, the room was a typical hotel room (very good compared to some shit I've been to in soi6), we shower together, she is very friendly and all smiley, she jokes too, we have a good time together. There was no bad surprise when she undressed, she's got no baby, everything looked good, I don't remember well but I think the pussy was shaved too.

The good thing is she already had a boyfriend in her life for three years, so I could expect her to be relaxed during the act, but it's still not enough for her to accept having too intimate stuff with a stranger on the first encounter (no kissing, no DATY, no BJ).

This time I was a bit tired I had to tell her to do at least something to make me have a hard on, she obliged and went for a HJ while I could grab her ass and slowly finger her pussy. Again, just the feeling of her juice and the quality of that pussy with her very soft skin down there helped me having a hard on quickly.

Sex was on par with the last girl from soi6, but she was more relaxed. When we finished, we showered together and she was still the same, very friendly, talkative and smiley.

That girl could easily be in the top 10 girls in many gogos around town or in Bkk (pretty face, tall, slim with good forms (but still small boobs), skin middly tanned), but she still needs to learn how to perfect her looks with make-up (I think she didn't have a make-up), take some time to take care of her long hairs, and if she could be a bit more confident in herself (and learn English obviously) she would get very popular.

If anyone wants to see her, I saw her some other days (didn't pick her again because so many girls in soi6 that I preferred to meet new girls), she likes to sit outside, and always wore the same blue evening dress.

This time again, I left very satisfied from soi6 that evening even though the service was limited.

[Paolo99]

I passed that bar riding my bike and saw two girls sitting alone on the chairs, one looked good from where I was so I came back, parked my bike in front and she waved me in.

She brought my beer and we had a quick chat of less than 2 minutes and she suddenly left me and tried to wave other people in the bar, then went to sit alone. I think she didn't like I didn't bought her a LD straight away (she didn't even ask for it), but I never do that. Some of these girls are very lovely and I don't have any problem buying them drinks, but I've met a good bunch of assholes too, so I always wait a bit to see if she really deserves that I buy her a drink.

There were 3 or 4 girls in the bar at that time, with two other customers sitting alone.

I still could get some information out of her during the talk (her name is Tawan), the bar is new and opened only ten days ago. She is a girl from Nongkai, and was working as a freelance on Thai Friendly before working there.

She had all the crap vibes from the freelancers of walking street discos, same broken English, same cheap perfume that I cannot stand, and looked a lot less attractive at close range so it was not a big loss for me but I still thought the service was terrible.

When I'm at home living my shithole life I frequently look at the pictures of girls on ThaiFriendly and I put the ones that I like the most in the favorites even though I still never tried to meet any Thaifriendly girls when I'm in Thailand. I'm still in Thailand now and had a look at the site out of curiousity, it opened directly on the favourites page. What a surprise I have when I see that girl that I've met a few days ago in her bar (that I couldn't stand after 1 minute by the way, same goes for her) featuring in my favourites on TF. She just added some new pics that she took in her bar, she looked exactely like the pic with the pink dress when I met her (obviously there is some serious photoshopping too), that's how I know she is the same girl, otherwise I would never have known it.

Here is her TF account to look at her pics: https://www.thaifriendly.com/photo.p...30&u=Tawan6699.

Seems like she is too popular to contact her without a paying account, so anyone interrested in her can go have a look in her bar: Buttercups bar, Soi Diana, just a few meters from soi Buakao, on the right side.