Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

1. I haven't read a lot on here about massage-with-extras places? I remember there used to be lots on Soi Honey and surrounding streets. Are they still there? What kind of prices are we talking these days?

You have always paid what you negotiate. Never been a reason to pay more than 1000 baht all in.

[Banana Boi]

Barfines and amounts for girls at gogo bars, massage joints, soapies, beer bars, Soi 6, G clubs, BJ bars, etc haven't changed all that much since you were there 6 years ago from pre-COVID. Maybe 100 baht more barfine on Soi 6 and the introduction of staggered barfines and the model scam in gogo bars. What has changed are the amount you pay for lady drinks. Walking Street gogo bars used to be 80 baht a ladydrink in 2015 and 200 baht pre-COVID. Post COVID there are far fewer customers so you can negotiate with girls much harder to get better rates. Use Fiwfans as a comparison where you can get gogo girls at 1200 baht per hour now.

[Sir Lancelot]

I'll be back in Pattaya in March after a six year break.

I've got a few questions.

1. I haven't read a lot on here about massage-with-extras places? I remember there used to be lots on Soi Honey and surrounding streets. Are they still there? What kind of prices are we talking these days?

2. Secondly, I know bars are currently 'restaurants' but after reading back 50 pages I can't find a lot of info on bar-fine / ST / LT costs.

3. I'm reading about places like Camel Toe, Tree Town on here etc. Which are the go-to places?

I will post a lengthy diary about my trip.

[Banana Boi]

Saw this and had to post it. The old Ninja agogo is now named Slutz. Some of my best times in Pattaya 2015-2017 were at Ninja. Great talent back then.

Watched a YouTube video posted today of Soi 6. Don't usually watch these videos but was curious. The bars which were open were busier than I expected in the middle of the afternoon. Soi 6 was never super busy in the day time anyways. It was odd the all the open bars were in the middle of the soi while the bars near Beach Road and Second were all closed.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

No I am not cheap Charlie. I pretty love to buy ladydrinks for my barfine. I prefer to be sober , i usually drink just coke or soda. It doesnt matter what you drink as long as you buy ladydrinks. Here there is a common problem. Girls are extremely stuck up. This is not only me, many will repeat same. Unless you are reasonably young and handsome, you have almost no luck with beautiful Thai girls. Apparently I don't meet their so called criteria. For me, Beautiful Thai girls mean a girl between 18-23 years old ,slim or at least not overweight , has a decent face and of course has no baby damage. I won't dress suit to fuck a prostitutes from bar. I don't date with my girlfriend. Here is hot, and slippers, shorts and T-shirts are common clothes. It seems That, For some people, extremely picky girls are pretty normal. But I have known Thailand since almost 2005. Things are getting worse in terms of mongering here everyday.

I am going to totally disagree, as here in Phuket is still just fine.

I was just out tonight in Rawai, an unusual occurrence.

And here is my proof of what is available.

How about a tiny petite SYT Isaan spinner, 19 yo, pretty and also as cute as a button, with totally no baby damage.

Two lady drinks enjoyed, then moved happily to a ST upstairs in the room above the bar, LT also available.

Sensational one hour session.

At the end we worked out a price, as there had been zero prior discussion.

I asked how much, she says what do I want to give her.

I don't answer, instead I open my wallet.

I then give her 1000 baht.

She doesn't complain visually or verbally at all.

No sign of any issue at all from her, it is all OK.

I then give her an extra 500 baht as a tip, as she has been awesome.

Her face lights up and she is now extra happy as.

I go downstairs, she stays there and cleans the room.

I settle the bar bill, 300 for the two ladydrinks, 90 for my beer, and 300 for the ST room.

As I finish paying up she comes downstairs, a full on DFK in the bar follows, initiated by her, and then I am out of there.

To return for sure.

I am walking on air!

And no, I am not 30's and gods gift to girls.

I'm 50+++, overweight but a grey haired "lor" (handsome), and I can 'pud Thai nid noi".

I'm polite, engaging, and I don't call them or make them feel like, they are "prostitutes" as you call them.

Its pretty clear to me that if you treat them like you discuss them here, then there are not going to be many that you fit their criteria.

[Explorer8939]

No place is as good for mongering as it was 20 years ago. That's one of the downsides of getting old.

I had the best mongering of my life this summer when the bars were closed, but maybe that's just me.

Anyway, there is nothing good that comes out of a post bemoaning Pattaya, compared with 20 years ago, unless you are selling time machines.

[Lefeu]

... I pretty love to buy ladydrinks for my barfine. I prefer to be sober , i usually drink just coke or soda. It doesnt matter what you drink as long as you buy lady drinks...

Many mongers don't drink alcohol and they do just fine. The powers to be just want to see their customers spend some money at their establishment. This could be accomplished by buying lady drinks.

[Lefeu]

That's too bad. I visited 4 years ago and Bangkok in particular holds a lot of fond memories for me.

Girls seemed down to earth and happy for what ever tips you gave them. And service was quite good.

My last trip was in January 2020, and before that I was going every year for a total of 25+ trips. In my experience, Thai girls are still down to earth and happy to be with you. Nothing has changed really, and I don't see how Covid would change that.

I would say that the GoGo places have gotten expensive. I think this is due to the new well off clientele, comprised of Chinese, Indian, and Korean mongers. I practically stopped patronizing GoGo bars due to this price increase.

[Kiev Freak]

Some get turned down because of big dicks that cannot fit in the tiny pussies of the thai girls dear. They come to know this by the huge body size or maybe some other ways that we do not know. Is it your case?

There can be some other minor reasons, like if you buy a vodka and not a cheap beer, they look at you as a big spender by what drink you take and how you try to spend your money, your clothing and shoes, etc.

The bar business runs only if you pay up something to the bar. If you do not pay, then the mamasan has instructed already to not go with the guys who do not drink.

I prefer the freelancers from the road, but the best are the girls you can choose in soapies (shut down for now) or the girls from gogo's. A bit costly but you get what you want and you see everything before you pay.

No I am not cheap Charlie. I pretty love to buy ladydrinks for my barfine. I prefer to be sober , i usually drink just coke or soda. It doesnt matter what you drink as long as you buy ladydrinks. Here there is a common problem. Girls are extremely stuck up. This is not only me, many will repeat same. Unless you are reasonably young and handsome, you have almost no luck with beautiful Thai girls. Apparently I don't meet their so called criteria. For me, Beautiful Thai girls mean a girl between 18-23 years old ,slim or at least not overweight , has a decent face and of course has no baby damage. I won't dress suit to fuck a prostitutes from bar. I don't date with my girlfriend. Here is hot, and slippers, shorts and T-shirts are common clothes. It seems That, For some people, extremely picky girls are pretty normal. But I have known Thailand since almost 2005. Things are getting worse in terms of mongering here everyday.

[Visal]

Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.

But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.

Some get turned down because of big dicks that cannot fit in the tiny pussies of the thai girls dear. They come to know this by the huge body size or maybe some other ways that we do not know. Is it your case?

There can be some other minor reasons, like if you buy a vodka and not a cheap beer, they look at you as a big spender by what drink you take and how you try to spend your money, your clothing and shoes, etc.

The bar business runs only if you pay up something to the bar. If you do not pay, then the mamasan has instructed already to not go with the guys who do not drink.

I prefer the freelancers from the road, but the best are the girls you can choose in soapies (shut down for now) or the girls from gogo's. A bit costly but you get what you want and you see everything before you pay.

[Mr Enternational]

Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?

I know chicks that work on Soi 6 that live in Jomtien.

[Kiev Freak]

Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?

Yes they do.

[Breadman]

Do the working girls agree to go with you to Jomtein area on the 10 baht tuktuk / bus?

Well if you and the girl are going back to Jomtien on a baht bus that would cost you 20 baht (unless you make the girl pay her own way). A bolt taxi is around 100 baht, easier to just book that anywhere you are where you found said working girl and head back in one easy step vs baht bus transfers. Most girls are willing to pay the motorbike or taxi in order to get my money, there is a severe lack of customers here at the moment.

Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore. I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.

Well I am trying to 'live here' like I did back home. I didn't go out to the bars every day and can't see myself doing so here. But calling in a girl for some fun with that 1000 baht you saved from the bar is certainly worth every penny. Its the bars that are trying to rip you off, the price for the girls alone is pretty reasonable. I'm staying in Airbnb's in the low $200 range, hard to find those back home. With the money I save its easy to enjoy a girl every night.

[Explorer8939]

Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also.

But I can easily say that thai prostitutes are the most stuck up prostitutes in the world.

To each his own. My approach is a little more relaxed, since I am not pressed for time. I will buy drinks for a lady, and if there is a good vibe, I will barfine her, with a brief discussion about price. Most of the ladies are pretty good in bed. Maybe a handful are not so good, so I don't barfine them again. But almost every lady wants a repeat customer, and if they know I live in Pattaya, they aim to please.

Where I run into trouble is during multi-day barfines. That's when a lady will act out as the third day approaches. I used to think it was something I did, but now I realize they miss their boyfriends after a day or so.

[SwagDaddy]

Unless I can fuck prostitutes I want, this place for me is not a good mongering destination anymore.

I have same experiences as you had. Now I just ask girls specific questions before entering a bar. My question usually is " can I finish in your mouth" and "can we kiss with tongue?

This means technically I will barfine and fuck you, ok? If she says no, I don't enter that bar.

But this way doesn't work in Gogos because usually you need to order lady drink to "interview" with your favorite girl in gogos.

Now I started to see too much turning down and girls attitudes are every day going to pit while prices are skyrocketing. This is really not normal for a p4 p scene. Simply this country is not mongering heaven for me anymore. Kenya, Caribbean and even Colombia seem to provide better bang for my bucks now. I didn't visit Philippines yet, I plan to see there and decide also..

That's too bad. I visited 4 years ago and Bangkok in particular holds a lot of fond memories for me.

Girls seemed down to earth and happy for what ever tips you gave them. And service was quite good.