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  1. #42328
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
    It's pretty sad if a Thai man pays for sex in Pattaya. Most of the ladies who come to Pattaya are looking for a Thai mate, since they have kids and most can't find a boyfriend in the village where they lived. They are hoping for a Thai man who has money, so the lady can stop work bar, but it's more common for the Thai man to scrounge off her. And, since she works long hours, the Thai man's goal is for him to stop work and use her money to secure other ladies.

    No matter how smart a bar girl is when it comes to manipulating Farang customers, if she falls in love with a Thai man, she loses her mind.

  2. #42327

    Well Sir

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.
    With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.

  3. #42326
    You can set two sims on your iPhone, just not two physical so one normal SIM and one ESIM, had no issue setting up it during my last trip, I went for Thai ESIM and had it set online prior to arrival and, worked well, it was 25 USD via AIS for 30 days /60 gb but there are shorter plans as well.

    Regarding prices, it's about equal between bars and tf cause although girls are usually cheaper in bars, you also pay for some drinks. But obviously, it varies, some guys here will quote really low numbers and although it's possible it usually requires some specific condition like low season / early during day or late at night when demand is low or a familiarity with the girl. The most common price I paid was 2000, with the cheaper girls you can end up just being disappointed with what shows up at your door, being a cheap charlie works for some but it aint for me.

  4. #42325
    Quote Originally Posted by Paolo99  [View Original Post]
    1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.
    I got 1 k regularly on Soi 6 just 8 months ago and the ladies I took were attractive. Certainly not tier 1 ladies, but I would say tier 2 ladies and attractive with nice bodies.

    I can't imagine things have changed too much in 8 or so months. It was also the deepest portion of low season (Aug, Sept, Oct) so that must help with getting cheaper rates.

  5. #42324
    Quote Originally Posted by KrumeLurer  [View Original Post]
    So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.

    Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.

    That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.
    Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

  6. #42323
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Buy a SIM card with unlimited data at the airport when you arrive. You can even buy one in the baggage hall, when you're waiting for your luggage. As already said by others, Wi-Fi is a hassle and the SIM cards are not expensive. And beside that you will need the app Line to stay in touch with the girls. I'm sure you've read about Line on this forum.
    To each his own, a physical SIM is OK if your phone is a dual physical SIM device (iPhone is not!) or you're spending at least a few months in Thailand. I've tried both SIM and eSIM, and physical SIM is a big hassle especially when you're exhausted and jet-lagged, and then I had problems with a few of my apps that relied on the phone number. I had no access to my original phone number most of the time and people were trying to reach me pretty often. ESIM could be too expensive in the long run, but it's much more convenient, especially for vacations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    3 o'clock might even be too early, if you want to meet them in the evening. TF gets really going after 7 or 8 PM, and keeps going until the next morning around 8 or 9 AM. Although I don't know if there is a dip in between, because most of the time I'm not online between 11 PM and 7 AM.
    And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).
    That was not my experience. At 3 PM TF would be buzzing with life, IMHO it's a good time to start if you don't have contacts established. Perhaps a bit early if you already have contacts, and want a girl at night. Some of the freelancers who have a day job start looking for customers shortly before their shift is over. I would start getting pinged by previous "dates", and girls whom I had not answered the previous day at around 10-11 AM. Also, bored massage girls sit on TF all day. But you know, there's someone on TF at any imaginable hour.

  7. #42322

    Wait wut

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    He not only claims it, but he shows it too.
    You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.

  8. #42321

    Prices quoted

    I've been quoted 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT very consistently on TF, in beer bars, massage parlours and GCs. In gogos it's 3000ST, and usually 5000 LT. BJ in a GC would be anything between 500 to 800 or 1000, plus a room fee and LD which bumps the overall prices well above 1000. I have once been offered and took LT for 2000, from a beer bar, but it wasn't worth it at all.

    The quoted prices do not seem to depend on the quality of the lady, or her skills, motivation etc. I can totally picture getting very heavy discounts from 50+ year old Ladies, or 40+ in bad shape, especially Beach Road and TF. And even more so if you're a regular. I understand if someone isn't very picky about who they bang, I'm not!, but honestly I can get that back home for free (nymphos).

    I would guess it's still possible to negotiate even with the more attractive ladies, but I couldn't be bothered, nor did I want the negative emotions. I'd rather focus on getting best quality in that price range, and I'd pay extra if the performance was really good. I had one hot girl who I tipped just over 500 THB ask me "why are you giving me so much money?" with a totally puzzled look on her face. She was 22, the experience was spectacular, and I really wanted her to come back, she did!

    Oh, and taking girls from gogos doesn't really make much sense. You can try it a few times for the experience, but for me their allure is the entertainment skills they have, which don't matter much in a 1-on-1 situation. So it makes sense only if she's hot, very young, and very willing, and you don't feel like looking for a girl elsewhere.

  9. #42320

    The Cmdr offers an alternative view

    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.
    The original question was about Short Time rates. So, those are the answers that were proffered. I every economy there is the insider rate and the outsider rate. It is up to the individual to know their prices and do what they need to do if they wish to get lower rates.

    I suppose that if the question was posed for long time rates the answers would be very different, Many others posting in other threads speak of those prices:

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    For short trips, 2000 baht a day. For extremely long trips 1000 baht a day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyezhov  [View Original Post]
    Yep, 1000 b a day plus expenses is the number.
    I don't do what they do so for the most part I cannot comment on the rates paid to take your prostitute on trips or to have her spend the night with you. But personally I do not feel that making the comparison between long time prices and short time prices is accurate. Precisely because of the portion I highlighted in bold. The objective measure of price is Cost Per Orgasm (CPO). The formula is that you take the total costs involved in getting your orgasms and divide that total by the number orgasms you received.

    Example presented below:

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    A lady with me now talked about her Korean customers. Lots of drinks, not much sex, good money. Except one guy who fucked her 10 times and gave her 10,000 baht.
    So, I would say this guy did pretty good for himself. 10000 THB /10 orgasms = 1000 THB / CPO.

  10. #42319
    Quote Originally Posted by Mogwai  [View Original Post]
    Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.
    He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.
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  11. #42318
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    Exactly how much is much less?
    Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.

  12. #42317
    Quote Originally Posted by FreeDude  [View Original Post]
    On soi 10 I would think the Stay is far enough down the road, not to be too affected by the beer bars. Even Page 10 (which is much closer), isn't affected that badly.
    They often have live bands playing at those beer bars, and they are very loud.

  13. #42316

    The Cmdr gets pinged; Oh well; It happens

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for all the replies on TF rates.
    You are welcome! Like I mentioned before positive feed back creates a desire to share information.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like 1,500 is the average price but the range varies.
    Exactly! I make an offer at the price point I think the girl deserves. She either accepts it or counters. If she counters inside the range I'll add a specific service that I want. If she is willing to provide it we have a deal. Like I said, people pay what they want, they get what they negotiate.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    I'm with you Sub, I'll take the lower end of the price spectrum and pocket the difference for further pay for play sessions or food etc. Going with a 1 k THB TF lady instead of say the 2 k THB lady, frees 1 k THB. That 1 K THB equates to an hour oil massage with HJ finish and dinner haha.
    No doubt. Along with the savings of THB, others have confirmed that they have found attractive prostitutes in the overall price range.

    Beach Road prices range from 1000 - 2000 THB short time. Plus the cost of a short time room (250 THB). You can save the 250 THB if you take them back to your own room.

    Gentleman's clubs are going to be 1000 - 1500 THB for the girl; 400 - 500 for the room; and whatever you choose to spend on Lady drinks and drinks for yourself. You can also bar fine the staff there and I have been told by my friends that the rates for an overnight are reasonable.

    It is the man in the arena that counts

  14. #42315
    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    Average price for ST on Soi 6 when I was there last year was 1,000 THB for the lady plus the room fee. Don't be a sucker and pay more than 1,000 THB.
    1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.

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