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  1. #35753

    Game Changer or Else

    Way back when we were warned because of COVID the entire mongering scene will change in Pattaya. All these dudes think they were helping chicks create OnlyFans or live streaming were only creating monsters because ether is no incentive for them to fuck anybody. So now the girls play stupid games and the customers are left with winning the stupid prizes. Luckily I have learned to adapt and I suggest the guys do the same if they want to set the market straight.

    The other day, went to Soi 6 with another ISGer. Saw about 3 doable girls after walking up and down 3 times. One girl was in a tight dress, slim with fake boobs. Looked like a PR girl. Tried to pull me in. I immediately asked if she can go upstairs. She said come drink. I asked again can she fuck. She then quoted me 3000 (Soi 6 girl). I said no and we walked away. Another girl at another bar was asked first before entering into the bar how much to bang? She rolled her eyes and told me 1500 and 400 for room. I said no and went to the next girl at the bar next door. I said how much and she said 1000 plus 400. I said okay, I will buy you 1 drink and we go up. So me and the other ISGer went in and I stuck with plan. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Tired of these drinking games? Then do as I. Asked first, then seal the deal. Tonight it was the same thing. We went to Soi 6 and I saw only 1 girl I was willing to do after walking up and down 3 times. She got my drink and stood there. I asked her, can you go upstairs via app translation. She said something in Thai to the other girl and I can hear the other girl tell her, why not? Then of course they made up the period excuse. So I went to mama behind the bar and asked the mama. Mama looked at her and there was a long discussion (45 seconds) between the two. Then mama said she is on period but rolled her eyes. Then I saw the Nightwish manager look at us and frustrated too. Mama then pointed to another girl there. Too fat for me but 90% of guys would probably like the other girl. I said no thanks. So we just hung out until we saw the girl I wanted to first bang pull in some Koreans. Took them for some drinks and when the Korean try to get upstairs. It was the same. No go. He paid the bill and everybody left. Lucky for me, the experience did not cost me any drinks. I don't play these drinking games. We went to Area 52 bar in Treetown. Saw 2 cute younger girls sitting outside. One tried to pull my arm. I said to her how much to boom boom you. She said I no go only drink. I said go away. I suggest guys follow my lead. Ask can they go upstairs first or can fuck, then buy a drink or do it after the deed is done. It's time to play back or else it starts getting ridiculous with all these hustles. And this goes for GoGo bars or pretty much any venue.

    By the way, saw a girl that quoted him 3000 on TF. I told him way back when, that she was actually a BR Coconut Bar girl. He didn't believe. Saw her tonight across the Wave. He still didn't believe and went to get a closer look. It was perfect match and she quoted him 1500. How good am I? I rather to just be that guy who all the girls know and point that all he wants to do is to fuck us and throw us away for the next. No need to play drinking games for me. There are girls still to be got at those rates before COVID. But they just aren't my type and I have a good eye. Viva la Mexico!

  2. #35752
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Soi 6 was fantastic years ago when none of the bars were open air. It was a quiet soi with lots of naughty things going on behind closed doors. It was not a party atmosphere, it was fairly low key like most G clubs are now. Opening up the bars and making it a loud street kind of ruined it for me. And of course back in the day all the bars were individually owned there was no big ownership group. Very different street then.
    Very true. Even about 10 years ago could start the day with a nice BJ and some action as needed in one of those Soi 6 places. Nowadays action seems to start later in the day and it's just too open air and loud. And overall quality seems to be not that good and you really have to search for the better looking babes.

  3. #35751
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Soi 6 was fantastic years ago when none of the bars were open air. It was a quiet soi with lots of naughty things going on behind closed doors. It was not a party atmosphere, it was fairly low key like most G clubs are now. Opening up the bars and making it a loud street kind of ruined it for me. And of course back in the day all the bars were individually owned there was no big ownership group. Very different street then.
    So true! The Thai location or circle behind the ESSO Gas station of Sukhumvit and Soi 8, off Theppassit, is a good comparison to how Soi 6 used to be all gone now. Then Soi 6, many of the buildings weren't full thus low enough for a guy to come in and experiment and that was to revive 6, making it more popular with his business plan like most things were going to improve and improvement takes money and when done want their investment back the sooner the better.

    To me what I saw and heard was like a scheme for those coming in at the bottom with him early got successful off those coming in late today those who were late those clubs are barely surviving or gone the main ones original are situated in the middle. Like you, even in the early revival, you had a choice to sit outside or inside more private today it is all open. It is geared toward what I consider the young and rowdy which has never been my thing.

    This same mindset is what is fueling the explosion on Soi Pothole, with a group opening places throughout the Buakhao area due to the Pandemic they were able to obtain some favorable rents in the area with deeper pockets and pour money into renovation prime examples are places like High Roller, Beach Club, and they want their return fast, set up contracts for the girls and push those drinks and more drinks it isn't about the fucking any longer that is secondary to these owners.

    I had a sideliner during the Pandemic that I might just before everything close down she was a showgirl I pretty much got her through the Pandemic doing her when things started to open up she bounce around the club to club, ended up on Soi Pothole, many customers in the area with W. S. Pretty much still dead came mostly to drink and drink she went home drunk vs. BF every night her Thai husband got pissed so she went back to W. S. Since her old club was opening with new owners and possible more BF instead of drinks LOL, sadly that meant same girl different location W. S. Wants me to pay more. The move was the right one she gets BF nearly every night by Asians.

    Some don't like it but " Those were the good old days ".

  4. #35750
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Here is another view? Although I venture to Soi 6 from time to time not a big fan of the group that has poplarlize 6.

    This was around a year ago when it opened back up? The big thing was Porn Hub then as it opened up further only certain of their clubs opened due to lack of girls they consolidated to open with more established name bars. Opening they couldn't staff clubs with girls with salaries just wasn't enough business so they allow Freelancers these were better looking allow to call their own shots when it came to price. They push drinks for bars and called their own shots who they went with. If they got a taker for their price they even ask more for the room which normally many of00, some clubs not associate with the group ask 350. Many of the farang owners got together decided to agree to set their prices and try to monopolize instead of survival of the fittest this is what had happen on Soi Pothole.

    Today as it has opened back up more there are less freelancer working on Soi 6, prior they would go from bar to bar reason you see them one day not the next.

    So regardless if you like something try to get their line! Today it is a longer process it is like a interview this system is being use throughout Treetown Soi Pothole first question you BF before you even consider a drink.

    Yep it has changed! So if you come and think you are going to recreate that fantasy of the dream trip good luck.
    Soi 6 was fantastic years ago when none of the bars were open air. It was a quiet soi with lots of naughty things going on behind closed doors. It was not a party atmosphere, it was fairly low key like most G clubs are now. Opening up the bars and making it a loud street kind of ruined it for me. And of course back in the day all the bars were individually owned there was no big ownership group. Very different street then.

  5. #35749

    Pattaya 1

    Back from a week of debauchery in Pattaya. WOW. Went in thinking its dead and low. Didn't disappoint! More reports to come.

    Big thanks to all posters on this forum for sharing tips ideas prices and made the trip greater.

    Transport: just booked a luxury sedan from BKK 1199 baht. Free cold juice on meet up. AC. Nice luxury trip. Definitely worth it.

    Hotel: messed up a little here as it was alil out of town on the mountains. Had a few girls ask extra $ for taxi to come there. But was on average 40 bht on bike and 70 on car taxi via bolt to / from beach road area so no big deal.

    Weather: too humid! And the afternoon rain was predictable.

    Indians: Too many people and restaurants. I was shocked at girls on street offering me sex in Hindi! Am in in Thailand or India!

    Food: never disappoints, always a huge variety and spread.

    Sex: amazing, relatively cheap with good pickings though you got to sift through a lot of shit for the quality if I might add.

    Can't wait to go back.

  6. #35748
    Massages?

    If you walk down Sois, like Soi Pothole even along Soi Buakhao from Pattaya Klang to Pattaya Tai main road majority will be a Happy ending. That percentage will drop with the ones wearing the uniforms. Let me get this out of the way since beauty and looks are subjective I'm not going to even touch on it!

    Shops on Beach Road are all on the Left side, wrapped around Walking St. Towards Pattaya Tai right side past the Bamboo bar, all along 2nd Road both sides ALL WEARING uniforms the % will drop with Happy Ending. I've seen some very good-looking ones in my eyes with the uniforms it is like a box of chocolate you never know what you are going to get. I don't do the Thai Friendly stuff, massages are my thing today it is like a game I ask for a foot massage conversation always starts up where you are from, etc. Etc. If the conversation leads to oil, you are heading to 1st, based? If they don't provide an outfit or pants, ask you to shower come back you just laid naked you are on 1st.

    Uniform girls usually want a bit more they want you to think this isn't what they do normally you special handsome man etc, in the end, it takes a bit of work I've ended up with some pretty good regulars that rather see you on the side because they don't want the other girls to know. Having a regular gives off the impression especially if you are doing oil that girl provides something they shouldn't /.

    On Soi Triangle, if looks aren't a killer, you don't mind average or old that takes care of their bodies and want performance plenty available. On Soi Buakhao, there are two V. I. P. Massage girls better looking in my opinion half of them will provide extra not the same price as Honey or Pothole or places with no uniforms.

    A bit more expensive on Soi Buakhao next to Cheap Charlie after months I finally pulled the trigger with the place next door the name is supposed to be Aroma but unless my eyes are bad I didn't actually see the name on the door also closes early. But there are at less a half dozen girls IMHO can top girls at any GoGo I've ever been to including Pin-UP, particularly one face all the way to her toes. They like to push two hand massages of 300 oil each if lucky you come away with 1500 baht. I knew for some time if I pull the trigger it was not going to be the best one of those " paying your dues and got to see and experience it myself ".

    I did my usual be. S. Pick one and said I live here if it is good I will be back next time to try two or even three sets of hands.

    I've had better much better but 22 years old, and what a body especially the giants natural tits I got teased got my tongue, and dined at her heavenly gates but as for the F. S. I've had better from some older ones who not only give you a decent massage but like to do F. S. Someone like LBM got to do the dirty work.

    Across, from Cheap Charlie, is another place, a cute girl with short hair does both, the famous be. J. Artist Juney from her shop on Soi Pothole now closed Juney is buying her time working there waiting for the right man to sweep her off her feet?

    When it comes to Massage places there are milions of options just millions. Walk along Soi 13/1 Soi Post Office there are at least a dozen places with Uniforms or None! Good luck!

  7. #35747
    Quote Originally Posted by Vector313  [View Original Post]
    Ok noob question here, but when I look at the massage places with the girls with white shirts and big breasts, I can't really see where in the shop extras might be had. It's it only the seedy looking massage places that you can get a nice happy ending or after these ones with the good looking uninformed big breasts ones also on the menu? What's the trick?
    Old fat and ugly aunties available you found yourself a legit massage parlor.

    Youngish, sluttier, better body, not necessarily pretty you found yourself a sex shop.

    Beware these aren't interested in Massage, they want Sex.

  8. #35746

    Reports

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Always remember if they're charging you above the going rate they don't want to be with you and are seeking more money to have to put up with you for an hour. Or worse they think you're a chump. Either way not good so move on!
    So younger than the normal guy who goes to Soi 25, beer bars, and LK Metro.
    It may be a long wait I'm having a difficult time leaving Little Japan in Ho Chi Minh. Spending way too much but so much fun. There are 500 baht BBBJ options a 50 baht taxi ride away but that's not my thing.
    Any reports to be had in the Ho Chi Minh section,? When did you arrive, and when did they start taking baht in HCM?

  9. #35745
    I fired a barfine today.

    I had told her she could stay with me for 2 days (she works in Ban Chang). So, she showed up yesterday at my condo, with zero belongings, no suitcase, no change of clothes. I knew she spoke no English, but she is very hard to communicate with, provides no information. So, we hit some bars last night (I am presuming she wanted to see the employment opportunities in Pattaya). We got hammered and returned to my condo early for some sex and sleep. Okay, so far, not so bad.

    She slept for 12 hours.

    After she woke up, it got pretty deadly. So, I invited another lady over basically as an interpreter. My barfine kept ducking out to talk on the phone with her husband, who works in Bangkok. The interpreter lady thought my barfine was doing Yabba in the bathroom since she could smell something strange.

    As time passed, my barfine's body language got worse and worse. Eventually, I just gave her cash for the second night, and taxi fare home. I just couldn't handle more time with her.

    The interpreter was kind of hot, and very friendly, but I wasn't going to switch out the ladies, that would be rude. There's always another day.

    Concerning my barfine, she is probably Soi 6 material, your classic LBFM, just no good for LT.

  10. #35744
    Quote Originally Posted by Vector313  [View Original Post]
    Ok noob question here, but when I look at the massage places with the girls with white shirts and big breasts, I can't really see where in the shop extras might be had. It's it only the seedy looking massage places that you can get a nice happy ending or after these ones with the good looking uninformed big breasts ones also on the menu? What's the trick?
    If you are only talking about Happy Endings, then it would be difficult to find a shop in Pattaya's tourist areas that does not include this. Just assume it is offered and for the 1% of times that you strike out, remember the name for next time. The act itself is performed on the massage table, generally at the end of the massage. The massage is usually of average to very good quality and will be the full time that you booked.

    For Full Sex / BJ, yes you will need to find dedicated shops. Again, not that difficult. Look for more seedy establishments, girls dressed less formally or uniformed, and younger (debatable) faces. Acts are also performed in the room on the table or mattress on the floor and the massage component will likely be short and perfunctory.

    Generally speaking, the further away from Beach road, the more that will be offered. If in doubt, just ask. It won't be the first time the girl has been questioned.

    Enjoy. G.

    P.S. I should have added that when you look into a shop often you will only see the recliners for foot massages. The rooms and tables are up stairs or out the back.

  11. #35743

    How to spot a massage place

    Ok noob question here, but when I look at the massage places with the girls with white shirts and big breasts, I can't really see where in the shop extras might be had. It's it only the seedy looking massage places that you can get a nice happy ending or after these ones with the good looking uninformed big breasts ones also on the menu? What's the trick?

  12. #35742
    Quote Originally Posted by PedroMorales  [View Original Post]
    You should give diet tips so we can all screw like tuk tuk drivers. India, huge racial variety but is it not Scam Central? Good on you if you are still up to going there. I am retreating into the Iliad's classics. Fine food, wine and the rest.
    I used to go there for work. It is indeed scam central. You would choose a girl and agree to the requirements and when in the room the girl would say - "I don't do that, sir" or "That is not allowed, sir" and I'm talking basic stuff like BJ and doggy, for example. There is also a serious problem with hygiene there. It is obvious that one has to choose well. I had on several occasions and got the best GFE with some gorgeous girls. I like variety.

  13. #35741

    Diet

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I would say that my best mongering days were the 80's and 90's. I was way too poor in the 70's. Fortunately, my testosterone allows me to continue to monger even today and hopefully in the future. I'm actually thinking of visiting India again as I have in the past been with some of the finest women I have ever had the pleasure of being with there.
    You should give diet tips so we can all screw like tuk tuk drivers. India, huge racial variety but is it not Scam Central? Good on you if you are still up to going there. I am retreating into the Iliad's classics. Fine food, wine and the rest.

  14. #35740
    Quote Originally Posted by JasonSilva  [View Original Post]
    I saw some of your posts and you look to be some 70 years old individual considering you have mentioned many times your best mongering days were in 1970's and 80's......
    I would say that my best mongering days were the 80's and 90's. I was way too poor in the 70's. Fortunately, my testosterone allows me to continue to monger even today and hopefully in the future. I'm actually thinking of visiting India again as I have in the past been with some of the finest women I have ever had the pleasure of being with there.

  15. #35739
    Here is another view? Although I venture to Soi 6 from time to time not a big fan of the group that has poplarlize 6.

    This was around a year ago when it opened back up? The big thing was Porn Hub then as it opened up further only certain of their clubs opened due to lack of girls they consolidated to open with more established name bars. Opening they couldn't staff clubs with girls with salaries just wasn't enough business so they allow Freelancers these were better looking allow to call their own shots when it came to price. They push drinks for bars and called their own shots who they went with. If they got a taker for their price they even ask more for the room which normally many of00, some clubs not associate with the group ask 350. Many of the farang owners got together decided to agree to set their prices and try to monopolize instead of survival of the fittest this is what had happen on Soi Pothole.

    Today as it has opened back up more there are less freelancer working on Soi 6, prior they would go from bar to bar reason you see them one day not the next.

    So regardless if you like something try to get their line! Today it is a longer process it is like a interview this system is being use throughout Treetown Soi Pothole first question you BF before you even consider a drink.

    Yep it has changed! So if you come and think you are going to recreate that fantasy of the dream trip good luck.

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