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  1. #37029
    Now is High Season, when the 2 Week Millionaires come, fall in love with bargirls, and take them off the market for a month or two. Don't expect top tier ladies to be awaiting you in Pattaya now, come back in four months.

  2. #37028
    Quote Originally Posted by Vector313  [View Original Post]
    I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.
    I wouldn't go that far. Europe and South America still have pretty strong lineups with fresh new faces everyday. Thailand has it's own share as well. It's just the prices have inflated in certain areas with too many tourist. For example in Colombia Parque Lleras I could easily find hot chicks for 150 k about 3 years ago. Now I can't find one for less then 300 k with reduced service! Too many over paying tourist there now. So now I move on to other avenues in Medellin that the tourist use less of therefore prices and services are still good. Same with Germany, just got to go to the right clubs which in general are places less frequented by tourist.

  3. #37027
    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.
    Oh No Indians. LOL. Hahaha.

  4. #37026
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.
    I hear you and agree that places aren't what they used to be. But it's not over tourism that did it. It's that the world in general is changing. The economy is motivating mongers to save money by finding gfs and sugar babies than to be butterflies. It's actually less expensive these days to to have 2 or 3 regulars than to have a lot of variety. So that's less customers for girls which motivates them to not work the streets anymore and settle down as well. It's more profitable for them to have 1 or 2 sugar daddies and stay home or even more profitable to just get pregnant by the right guy. I hate to tell you this, but the mongering game itself is falling out of fashion for a combination of reasons. So might as well just adjust your expectations and try to close your eyes and enjoy the mid level and low level quality faces and try to find the body types that you like. As the saying goes, you may not be able to get a 10 but you can fuck five 2's.

  5. #37025

    Not look for a Thailand GF

    Quote Originally Posted by Vector313  [View Original Post]
    I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.

    What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.
    Definitely not looking to import something to wine and dine. Just whatever is here is what I'll take. I'm a variety type of person. Short term, hit and quit it is all I want. I could overpay, but I hate doing so. I've seen so many mongering places just destroyed due to over tourism, and I rather not add to the problem. Every city is no longer as good as it use to be so I can't compare locations to the past anymore. Now I can only compare each place to their contemporaries.

  6. #37024
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok.
    You must be a seasoned GoGo bar guy if you are able to judge quality from just walking around and not going in. FYI hostesses stand outside on WS, rarely dancers do unless it's a small club. Like I said before, the best GoGo bars in Nana or Cowboy would not make top 12 on Walking Street. How do I know? I saw Indians being allowed into Rainbow Bars last night.

  7. #37023
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.
    I heard it's still very busy and high season right now, so most of the good looking ones are probably wifed up with a tourist for a few weeks or months. Seems that you're late to the party and dealing with the leftovers. When I was there a few months ago the best looking girls were at the big gogos on LK metro and soi boomerang. Try those. The rest of Pattaya will have 6 and below. You can find a good looker in Honey 2 soapy way down second road past soi 6 but be prepared to pay a lot for it and forget long time.

    What exactly are you looking for? If you are looking for long time GF, it's better to get on tinder or TF and search cities outside of pattaya and import her to you for a week or more. I met some super hot women in Chang Mai.

  8. #37022
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFlevo  [View Original Post]
    So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?

    Did you visit pinup agogo?
    I've spent serious time in all 3 places. My thoughts on best lookers.

    Best Gogo Bar girls and clubs goes to Pattaya, even before COVID. The sheer number of them is crazy. However. If we are talking about outside of just Gogo Bars.

    Civilians girls is Bangkok. Freelancers is Bangkok including Thermae and night clubs. Soapies is Bangkok. Remember the Lords Palace? 10,000 a girl? Kapoo is Bangkok. KTV and Thaniya is Bangkok. Online and sidelines girls is Bangkok. The Pimp?

    Phuket is the runt.

  9. #37021

    BKK Definitely Better for Quality

    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFlevo  [View Original Post]
    So you are saying Phuket / BKK got better looking ladies?

    Did you visit pinup agogo?
    Yes BKK IMO has better looking girls. I don't go into a go go bars anymore as I think they are major ripoffs so maybe my assessment isn't the best for a go go's. However when I walk around Nana Plaza in Bangkok and compare it to walking street and Soi 6 in Pattaya, hands down the girls that stand around outside are much better looking in Bangkok. Street walkers to me are better in Pattaya, but I'm not seeing a high volume of girls out there. Not sure what the real number is, but definitely less then 100 but you have to walk quite a bit. The massage parlors are the real gem to me when it comes to Bangkok. Definitely good looking girls at very reasonable prices. Pattaya makes my feet hurt because I have to walk so much to find someone doable.

    I remember walking by Pin Ups on Sunday and Monday night, but I can't recall if the girls standing outside were hot. I'm fairly certain they were just average as no one really made my head turn on walking street. I probably wouldn't go in there though as they will probably fleece me for lady drinks, and charge me outrageous prices for BF and ST. Let me know if that isn't the case. If it's within reason I may go in there to do some scouting around.

    As for best mongering places, I've been to Germany, Thailand, and Colombia this year and I still stand by my assessment. I don't have an Asian fetish, I just like girls of all ethnicities pretty much equally. There are some ethnicities that I'm not very attracted to, but definitely I'm into Latin, Caucasian, and Asians so I judge each area as fairly as I can. And to say girls in Latin America have big fake boobs and big boots is just ignorant. I personally prefer slim, petite and natural girls and they are in abundance in Germany and Colombia.

  10. #37020
    Quote Originally Posted by Omigawd  [View Original Post]
    Pattaya always low in quality

    To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker
    You're not going to find a Maserati (top gogo girl at 3k baht ST + 2k BF) in a Suzuki dealership (Beach Road 500 baht). To my knowledge no one has ever come on here saying you can find lookers on Beach Road. It's for people who come to Pattaya on a strict budget or are very frugal. It's like me coming on here saying all of Pattaya is really expensive because I ended up buying 20 drinks for a top model at Palace (4k drinks + 5k LT + 2k BF +3k drinks/snacks at Hollywood) when there are 1000s of G Clubs, BJ bars, Soi 6/7/8, beer bars, massage joints where girls will go with you for 1 k baht.

  11. #37019

    Colombia v Thailand

    I spent two weeks in Cartagena this fall and have been about a dozen times through the years. It has gotten progressively worse each visit in terms of the chica quality and your personal safety. This is compounded by desperate Venezuelans who are in inundating Cartagena and other cities. In terms of safety there are many documented cases of chicas using knock out Micky type drugs and some tourists have died as a result. Look on the Medellin thread for more details.

    On this last trip, I had to defend myself against five chicas who surrounded me in a well lit public area and attempted to steal my phone and wallet. They were not successful because I punched one of them in the stomach. Only then did they back off.

    In terms of attractiveness, it's no contest. South Americans have a lot of big silicone enhanced butts and breasts and can't compare to Asians. Also, Cartagena and other cities don't have real go-go's to see girls dancing etc. And their prices can be outlandish.

  12. #37018

    I Prefer Asian Girls

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians.
    I agree with Banana Boi, do your mongering where you like the locals. For me, it's Asia. I've never visited Columbia but I doubt I would find the Columbian girls hotter than the Thai girls. The closest I've ever come to mongering in Columbia is many trips to Tijuana where a few scattered Columbian girls make their way to work in Hong Kong club (yes, they were among the best performers). I like demure personalities, thin legs, small butts, small breasts, and delicate facial features. I won't find much of that in Columbia or any part of South America.

  13. #37017

    Pattaya always low in quality

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.

    I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.
    To me Pattaya has always been low in quality but high in quantity. I remember spending 2 hours and making multiple round of beach road trying to find a looker (as against a hooker LOL). Sometimes I would walk so much that my feet would develop blisters. Ah! Those were the days (evenings). At least there was so much quantity to choose from that I would find 2-3 girls every night. But with number of freelancers down so much of late, I wonder if it worth going to Pattaya any more.

    I doubt if even 200 girls show on beach road now a days.

    Please let me know if I am wrong, I don't want to be right!

  14. #37016
    Pattaya good or bad? I'm not going to disagree with Bluat but your post would be a lot more informative if you named the BARS you went to make your conclusion. I mean if you walked in to Pin Up, Baccara, and Palace I'm sure you would have a MUCH different perspective of the quality of gogo girls than if you walked into say Living Dolls and Bliss. Also the night of the week you go to the bars makes a huge difference as well as the time of the night you visited. You are not going to get a good idea of the quality of girls at Palace or Pin Up if you go there at midnight vs going there at 9 pm. Anyone decent is barfined by midnight.

    Frog Bar complex. Been wondering about this place. It just reopened when I was leaving Pattaya but it looked really nice and was rocking. I know one poster on here doesn't feel we need actual reports in the Pattaya Reports thread but I'd like to hear from someone on the ground how Frog Bar complex is doing.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    I saw this cute young girl sitting out front that gave me the look so I thought I would go in get a drink with her and then take her to the room. Instead she just asked me what I was having and then after grabbing me my drink went back to the front to sit. WTF is up with that? Seeing a bunch of lonely guys tonight sitting by themselves makes me think this is more common then not at Soi 6.
    Show your charm and convince her to stay by your side without having to buy her a drink. Otherwise buy her a drink or at least start asking her about going upstairs. She's there to make money not to entertain you. If she doesn't get at least her 50 baht from the drink you buy her why should she stay with you and let you feel her up and DFK her? That's not a Thailand thing it's the same for all countries in SEA. Some countries' girls are just more tolerant than others. I've had what happened to you at Soi 6 happen to me as well. I would just walk up to that girl and ask her to come back, make her laugh, or buy her a drink. Of course if you pick the fat short ugly girl she'll stay with you all afternoon in hopes that you will be her 1 barfine for the week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia.
    Not sure why someone would hobby in Thailand, Jakarta, Ho Chi Minh, Phnom Penh or Manila unless they like Asians. Sure Germany has better looking white girls but anyone who has been going since the 2000s will tell you Germany is crap now compared to back then. Other issues with Germany is that it's 70 euro just to get in the door of some clubs. Girls upsell everything to COB, COF, BBBJ, BBFS, and even freakin' DFK. A session there can cost 200 euro per hour now in addition to what you paid to enter the club. Let's not forget that hotels are more expensive, you need to rent a car, and Germany is one of the dullest countries you could ever visit. I know I've been there 40+ times. On top of all that how much does an all nighter with a FKK girl cost? FKK girls squirm if you try taking a photo too. Buy a drink for a Thai girl at Soi 6 and she will let you take a video of her DFKing you.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElMexicant  [View Original Post]
    Sensations

    This place has really gone to shit. Used to be top 3 or 4 before COVID. I remember in 2018, they boasted close to 200 girls a night with 4 rotations.
    I think it was more like 2015 to 2017 when it was really good. For me it wasn't great even in 2018. But you saw my face when we walked in a few months ago. I would have walked right back out if the manager wasn't so happy I came back to his bar.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaliGuy33  [View Original Post]
    Agreed, some people just need to complain for no reason.
    Yep. No more reviews from me on here.

  15. #37015
    Quote Originally Posted by Bluat  [View Original Post]
    This is going to be controversial, but I've been here for 3 days already, and so far Pattaya is a huge let down. Not in regards for tourism and cheaper prices compared to Bangkok and Phuket, but I mean in regards to girls. While there is an abundance of women everywhere with plenty of bars, a go go clubs, street walkers, and massage places. I have to give this an average rating due to how unattractive these girls are. You can have 1000 girls on one block, but if they are fat and old then really what is the true quantity of women available in Pattaya? I don't know how guys are rating girls, but I haven't seen a single 8, 9 or 10 girl on any street. I haven't gone to a soapy massage yet so maybe they are in there? But if you are talking Soi 6, Soi Bukhao, LK Metro, and even walking street I would say the vast majority of women are 6 and below. I've maybe seen a few 7's, but I can't really tell since everytime I think I spot a 7 I get a closer look and their complexion is just not too good so they have to be downgraded to a 6. 5. Everyone has their own scale of looks, but I would think that most guys would rate a Thai beauty pageant queen a 10 and everyone else goes down in scale from there. A 6 is fuckable I guess if I was desperate, and unfortunately I'm getting desperate. I might just overpay just to nut once at a soapy massage, and return back to Bangkok to monger once I'm done touring Pattaya. Really though in regards to monger destinations, unless you have an Asian fetish, I would rate Thailand overall well below Germany and Colombia. That's purely for mongering, if you are talking about which country is better for a regular vacation then hands down it's Thailand.
    The lack of quality when it comes to Pattaya has been a running topic for sometime now. And IMO it is true, the quality is no longer very good in Pattaya. However when you factor in costs of hotels, costs of mongering, limitless mongering options everywhere, cheap and diverse food and being by the water. Pattaya is still a great place.

    I'm sure the girls are hotter in Columbia but it doesn't seem safe to me. Also, Thailand is the best combo of vacationing and mongering as personally I value vacation / tourist stuff over mongering. Of course, to each his own.

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