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  1. #41926
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Really? You don't think she is pulling this kind of shit on other clients? You wouldn't want to know she does this kind of shit so you can avoid it?
    Maybe there was something about him that she could not fathom. You are once again forgetting the YMMV and that everybody will not have the same experience. That is just like purchasing a product or going to a hotel. If a few reviews say something was shitty, but the overwhelming majority say it is great, you do not burn it to the ground. You are reading one review and ready to throw the chick to the sharks.

    Same as I read reviews of guys saying they sometimes get chicks that end up having smelly pussies. I have to take that with a grain of salt with my experience of a couple thousand chicks and counting on one hand the amount that have smelled bad. Some guy has only been through 20 chicks and somehow picked 5 that smelled bad?

    I have been around Pattaya a long time. For some reason these bad experiences are few and far between with me and my circle. I have had like 2 bad experiences all these years. Either me and my friends are the luckiest guys in Pattaya or some guys are the underlying cause of their own bad experiences.

    You can not write a chick off because of one person's experience. Hell, he even thought the chick was up to something because she was taking pictures and sending it to him to confirm she was in the right place. You can see the Thai Friendly girl that came to see me last night did the same thing. I had a blast with that chick. She stayed with me 12 hours. 1500 baht. 21 year old chick from Laos. She just went home to wash clothes over an hour ago and already trying to come back.
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  2. #41925

    Thoughts on TF

    Many decent-looking girls no longer settle for 2000 apparently. Note this one below didn't even want to communicate in her own language, also not a good sign.

    She is one of the girls who print their Line IDs on their TF profiles. Now you might say this is great, no need to message them for their Line ID, one step less and less time wasted. Wrong! Up to now I haven't been able to meet a single girl among those advertising their Line IDs direct. Why is that? Maybe overloading syndrome: too many punters (and time-wasters from abroad) taking up a girl's time so she is not even in any mood to actually meet. Alternatively, such girls may get enough random offers to only settle for rates higher than 2000. In both cases not good news.

    Many TF girls who show interest are too dumb to send their Line ID in their first reply. Then when you ask for the Line ID you get hit with the upgrade prompt. Dumb. I am not interested in "Hi". I cannot do anything with "Hi". I need your Line you idiot.
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  3. #41924
    Too bad about the lady who asked for 2,000 baht to fix her mom's roof. More likely, she has a gambling problem, it's very common in Pattaya and elsewhere. So, she might be back to earn some cash from you.

  4. #41923

    Day 22: Soi 6 delivers

    The weather was clammy and grey as I walked along soi Buakhao for breakfast. Midway through my eggs and bacon it began raining heavily and didn't stop for a few hours. Stranded at Sports Lounge, I ordered a second cup of tea, waiting for a break.

    As I was sipping my third cuppa, I pondered setting up some afternoon action. My Line is full of contacts of girls I've already been with but there are also a few fresh leads, girls I met in bars earlier in the trip and grabbed their Line. At that exact moment my phone pinged. Lo and behold it was a message from a girl I'd just been about to message, a spinner from one of the bars at Myth.

    'What are you doing?' her message said, Line speak for fancy doing something together.

    I asked her if she'd like to meet before she started work at 3 pm and she agreed, but not today as it was raining. She quoted 2500 but accepted 1500.

    I also received a dreaded message from one of my regular Pattaya girls, asking for 2000 baht as she's ran out of money. 'You too clever to run out of money' I responded to which she replied she needed it to help fix her mum's roof. I've been with the girl a number of times over the years and I'm always happy to buy drinks for her too, but sadly it seems we've now reached the point where she wants me to be her ATM. 'I only ask 2000' she continued but it would be more next time. I refused, so I suspect I won't hear from her again.

    The rain had subsided to merely a faint drizzle, so I decided to walk back to my hotel. On a spur of moment I turned down soi Honey, curious what it would be like at 1 pm. At one of the first massage shops there was a cougar with big fake tits. Normally I like to go for small, cute girls but I suddenly had the urge to aim for the other end of the spectrum. She had a sexy, slutty look about her. If BBC made a sleazy drama set in 1960's Bangkok and needed an actress to play a hooker, this is the girl.

    '1200, massage and sex' she said, tits fighting to get out of the tight top she was wearing.

    She led me upstairs to a small curtained cubicle and gave me a really excellent oil massage, as slap-slap-slap noises came from the next cubicle. When we got down to our own naughty business she illustrated why sometimes it's good to go with a girl with experience. She gave a really good blowjob and then rode me expertly, with the perfect amount of bounce, rhythm and hip action. I fucked her hard in doggy, showing my competitive side by making our SLAP-SLAP-SLAP noises louder than those we heard minutes earlier. She finished me with a magical double fisted handjob. She put oil on my dick and firmly used both hands, then when she saw I was about to cum used one of her hands to do a twisting motion over my bell-end, resulting in one of the most intense climaxes I've ever had.

    'Good boy' she said as she mopped up the mess she'd made.

    The top of soi Lengkee was flooded after the heavy downpour earlier. I decided to go to Pra Ni Ta for a foot massage. It cost 200 pesos. My advice, if you go for a naughty massage pick the sexiest girl you see, if you go for a legitimate massage pick the oldest lady. She'll know all the tricks.

    My chest was okay at breakfast and during the two massages, but I still didn't feel ready for a bar crawl yet. My plan in the evening was to grab another quickie, either on soi Pothole, soi Honey or soi 6.

    I headed out at 7. 30 pm and saw some nice girls on soi Pothole but they were outside bars like Inferno, and I didn't really want to step into smoky bars. After the downpour earlier the street's potholes were filled with water, making it like a game of Frogger navigating my way up the street.

    Another massage on soi Honey sounded appealing but I didn't see a girl to tempt me. At one of the bars though I saw a cute girl wearing a pretty floral dress. I asked her if she'd like a drink and I've never seen such an excited reaction to be picked. She couldn't stop giggling to herself.

    We clicked so I enquired about the prices. The room upstairs cost 500 and she quoted 2000 for short-time. You know there are problems when a girl on soi Honey charges 2 k! When she saw my raised eyebrows she said 'I young girl' but she wouldn't budge from her initial quote. A guy started smoking on the table next to me so I paid my cup and left.

    I ended up taking the baht bus to soi 6 and it was 8. 10 pm when I stepped on to the hallowed tarmac. I love this street.

    It was very busy. I spotted a tall, skinny girl at 3 Angels, a cutie outside Playpen and Wrath near the bottom always seems a good bet for a pretty selection. I backtracked to Playpen, intending to buy a drink for a cutie I'd seen, but literally two seconds before I got to her an elderly gent pulled her inside.

    I saw a gorgeous girl in one of the popular bars about halfway up. She had a stellar body with long legs and a pert little bum, as well a fashionable cropped haircut. She was a pretty thing so I bought her a drink but when I enquired about prices she said 2500 and wouldn't budge from that hefty amount. Realistically she was a 1500 girl so I passed.

    These girls work ten hour shifts and the popular ones must have a maximum number of fucks per night they're willing to have. Two or three max? So I reckon the pretty girls will quote silly prices if they've recently had a customer.

    As seems to be the trend in some of these bars, the Manager, a British guy, walked over and shook my hand as the girl squared my bill at the bar. 'What are your plans for tonight pal?' he asked. I told him I'd hoped to take the girl upstairs but she quoted 2500. Telling him will make little difference but at least I'd registered my disapproval.

    There was a nice looking girl with a very unusual appearance outside Foxy Bar but just as I was about to speak to her, she jumped on to a bike with another girl and cycled away, presumably to get some food! My timing was off tonight.

    But then my luck changed in dramatic fashion when I saw one of the best looking girls I can ever recall seeing on soi 6.

    Sadly I cannot name the bar due to ElMexicant's trolling but it wasn't one of the popular bars, it was one of the more modest ones, proving that gems can be found anywhere if you are patient and eagle-eyed.

    She was tall and skinny and had a mesmeric face, like a model. When I approached her and said Hi she did a shocked double-take and burst out laughing. What a girl. She had a Natalie Portman smile, braces on her teeth and a really fun personality. She was 21 and from Bangkok. As we were chatting I can remember thinking there was no way on earth this girl would name a price lower than 2000 and that's exactly what she asked for, eventually settling on 1500. I was relieved, I didn't want to let her slip thought my fingers.

    She took her shoes off and placed them on the big rack of shoes at the foot of the staircase and led me up to a modest room, stifling hot. We both showered and wow, when she lay next to me I thought I was in heaven. She didn't just have a perfect face, she had a perfect body too, slim with nice fuller boobs and nipples begging to be sucked.

    Initially it seemed the sex might be hard work as she was quite shy. She didn't like her nipples being sucked and when I tried to finger her she closed her legs. I asked for a blowjob and she said 'can do, only quick okay?' It did the trick and got me rock hard and soon I was sliding in to her tight pussy. We had sex in numerous positions but soon I was pouring with sweat as the room was hot, so I lay back and asked her to ride me. She laughed like it was the craziest suggestion in the world but then shyly gave it a go, wiggling her hips in an inexperienced manner on mine. I felt the luckiest guy in the world looking up at her pretty face and squeezing her tits as she began to gain more confidence, rocking her hips faster and biting her bottom lip.

    I've met some great girls on this trip both in Thailand and Philippines, but this girl was the creme de la creme.

    It proves yet again that gems can be found anywhere in Pattaya. No doubt someone will leave a scornful response because of a YouTube video he saw, but from my boots-on-the-ground experience, soi 6 delivers time and time again.

  5. #41922
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    Really? You don't think she is pulling this kind of shit on other clients? You wouldn't want to know she does this kind of shit so you can avoid it?
    The moral of the story is that online ladies are riskier than bargirls.

    I do know online ladies who are excellent fucks, but they are rare. Bargirls worry about repeat business, and look for sponsors. Not so much TF ladies.

  6. #41921
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Why? Just because his experience with her was horrible, does not mean someone else's experience with her was not great. No need for spite. YMMV.
    Really? You don't think she is pulling this kind of shit on other clients? You wouldn't want to know she does this kind of shit so you can avoid it?

  7. #41920
    Quote Originally Posted by BroComplex  [View Original Post]
    Bro that's exactly what I've been saying. If you like older women like 30+ Thailand is a heaven. I'm talking you going to have to fight the women off you with a broomstick. You going to have all the ST, LT and even LLT you want any time you want at very low prices. But if your goal is cute 18-25 years old girls then forget about it. You going to struggle between the high demand and low supply. The best you could hope for is a 2000 baht short time where you cum and they leave. Long gone the days of LLT with attractive women.

    If your goal is LLT girlfriend experience with a young attractive girl the Philippines is the way to go.
    I wouldn't say "struggle", still plenty of decent looking 18-24 year olds out there in Pattaya but. There is a downwards trend for sure I fully agree with you there. So if you are into fresh pussy it did definitely get a bit more difficult over the years. And with how supply and demand works its not going to get better again, unless there is like a 2nd pandemic that shuts the country down for 2 years.

    But even then. Girls are alot more comfortable with Tiktok, IG and Onlyfans (and selling nudes for good cash) than just 2-3 years ago.

    Onlyfans is the fking bane of mens existence but people are too dopamine addicted to realize it.

  8. #41919
    Quote Originally Posted by Argo1990  [View Original Post]
    Was in Pattaya a few weeks ago. Been many many times already so it was far from my first rodeo.

    As usual I started my afternoons at soi6 for some drinks and a shorttime before moving on to Treetown or LK Metro area for the 2nd pump of the day.

    As many will be able to attest and at the expense of sounding like a doomsday priest, Pattaya keeps getting shittier from year to year (which is why I am looking into Colombia recently, any tips welcome via DM). Still the top destination in my book simply for the sheer quantity of pussy getting thrown at you but social media and onlyfans have heavily affected the upper class market (top tier girls between 18-22).

    Those specific girls on thaifriendly and tinder have become considerably more flaky in recent years because they get spammed offers all day long.

    Now that is not to say that there are no girls. Pattaya is still FULL of reasonably priced pussy ranging from 1500ST to 3000ST but as someone that has been coming since 2012 the decline in quality paired with increase in girl attitude and pricing is very very noticable.

    When I visited in 2012 I was a super noob. Did not know anything about mongering and would just accept any price. But back then I paid like 2 k for a full day with a 19 year old that I pounded like 4 times a day.

    Things have changed indeed.
    Bro that's exactly what I've been saying. If you like older women like 30+ Thailand is a heaven. I'm talking you going to have to fight the women off you with a broomstick. You going to have all the ST, LT and even LLT you want any time you want at very low prices. But if your goal is cute 18-25 years old girls then forget about it. You going to struggle between the high demand and low supply. The best you could hope for is a 2000 baht short time where you cum and they leave. Long gone the days of LLT with attractive women.

    If your goal is LLT girlfriend experience with a young attractive girl the Philippines is the way to go.

  9. #41918
    Was in Pattaya a few weeks ago. Been many many times already so it was far from my first rodeo.

    As usual I started my afternoons at soi6 for some drinks and a shorttime before moving on to Treetown or LK Metro area for the 2nd pump of the day.

    As many will be able to attest and at the expense of sounding like a doomsday priest, Pattaya keeps getting shittier from year to year (which is why I am looking into Colombia recently, any tips welcome via DM). Still the top destination in my book simply for the sheer quantity of pussy getting thrown at you but social media and onlyfans have heavily affected the upper class market (top tier girls between 18-22).

    Those specific girls on thaifriendly and tinder have become considerably more flaky in recent years because they get spammed offers all day long.

    Now that is not to say that there are no girls. Pattaya is still FULL of reasonably priced pussy ranging from 1500ST to 3000ST but as someone that has been coming since 2012 the decline in quality paired with increase in girl attitude and pricing is very very noticable.

    When I visited in 2012 I was a super noob. Did not know anything about mongering and would just accept any price. But back then I paid like 2 k for a full day with a 19 year old that I pounded like 4 times a day.

    Things have changed indeed.

  10. #41917

    Day 20/21: Back to Pattaya

    Buses now depart from outside SM Mall in Angeles and go directly to the airport using Manila's excellent expressway. My bus departed at 9. 30 am and pulled up infront of Terminal 1 at 11.20 am, less than two hours later (and that included a ten minute drop-off at Terminal 3). It cost 410 pesos and I would highly recommend it. Buses depart at half past the hour from from 2. 30 am to 10.30 pm.

    The ride gave me a good opportunity to reflect on my time in Angeles. I enjoyed visiting a year ago but now more bars are open and there are lots more girls. I barfined some absolute gems, some of the best girls I've been with in Philippines. The girls from Genesis, Dollhouse and Avalon were spectacular. Perimeter Road is opening up again and there is a reasonable freelance scene too. The place is on an upwards trajectory. Whenever people use a word to describe Angeles the only adjective they seem to be able to find is 'shithole'. It isn't that bad. The place doesn't have much ambiance and there's little to do apart from girlie action but if you pick a nice hotel, you can have a great time in Angeles. It's a sweet shop.

    My flight took three hours and included possibly the worst turbulence I've ever encountered as we approached Bangkok. At first people ignored it but then it got worse and there was nervous laughter, then the plane started being buffeted all over the place and my empty cup was thrown from my table. I was pleased to reach terra firma and the immigration queue at Suvanarbhumi was surprisingly small. I got a yellow taxi outside to take me to Pattaya.

    Once again I'm staying at Vogue Hotel. The location is great, just off soi Lengkee, the rooms are spacious and clean and they always seem to have good deals on Agoda. My room is costing about 800 baht a night.

    The time was 7. 40 pm and ordinarily I'd have been keen to bounce straight back out but I'd been feeling ropy all day and as the day progressed felt progressively worse. I've been feeling run down the past few days, going out every night for three weeks drinking alcohol has caught up with me. I've also got an annoying cough due to all of the cigarette smoke in bars. I went to a local pharmacy and bought some medicine and decided to take the evening off.

    Next day I still felt rough. I've noticed I often pick things up in Philippines. I spent a lazy afternoon reading and watching YouTube on my phone but as it started to get dark outside I began to feel considerably better. My cough was gone, largely thanks to the honey and lemon ice tea I bought from a 7 Eleven. I felt fit enough to find a girl.

    However, I had to be sensible. Visiting smoky bars would almost certainly set my chest off again and I didn't want to consume any alcohol for the same reason.

    For a brief period I thought I'd lined up a Tinder meet, a curvy black girl with outrageously large blowjob lips, but she quoted 3000 short-time, aka gogo prices! My top level for freelancers is 1500, which is what I paid for the tall Nigerian I met earlier in the trip, who was easily on par. She came down to 2000 but wouldn't go any lower.

    There was only one thing for it, a trip to soi Honey. Although I've taken two nice girls from this street earlier on the trip, I've probably walked up the street 10 further times and been underwhelmed. On those occasions it didn't matter as I had plenty of other options, like soi 6 for example, but tonight I didn't have the luxury of a backup plan. It was soi Honey or nothing.

    A cluster of eager girls were sat outside Paradise and Up to You next door. I continued walking and saw girls sat outside Runway and Pink Lady. These are essentially soi 6 bars on soi Honey, with short-time rooms upstairs. One girl made me hesitate. She was youngish and a definite contender. I wasn't in the hunt for perfection tonight, I just wanted a quick fuck with a reasonably pretty girl. And that's exactly what I found a little further up the road, a curvy Lao girl with a nice smile. The cost was 1300 all-in.

    There was no pretense at a massage. She rubbed oil on my chest and immediately began stroking Lancelot junior. She gave an excellent blow-job and then we had sex in a few positions, always awkward on a hard single bed. So much so I took the condom off and she finished me off with an excellent handjob.

    Not only was it an enjoyable quickie, I felt absolutely fine throughout. If this was a fitness test, I'd passed with flying colours.

    I've got eight more nights in Pattaya before I fly home to England.

  11. #41916
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    You may want to block her in TF. When you do so TF will ask you why you block her. Just write something like "horrible experience". This may contribute to weeding out the rotten apples.
    Why? Just because his experience with her was horrible, does not mean someone else's experience with her was not great. No need for spite. YMMV.

  12. #41915
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the replies and advice. Unfortunately today was not my day. Initially I was thanking my lucky stars that a young 21 yr good looking chick is finally coming to meet. She was not budging from 2000 baht so I agreed. But alas, my excitement was soon going to turn into a big disappointment.

    ...


    Sometimes I wonder maybe it's better that such rotten girls don't agree to meet us!
    You may want to block her in TF. When you do so TF will ask you why you block her. Just write something like "horrible experience". This may contribute to weeding out the rotten apples.

  13. #41914
    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    Forgot to mention, she also took photos of the hotel, the lift and even my room number and shared with me saying she wanted to confirm. Definitely she had some plans, just in case I refused to pay the agreed amount!
    LOL. No. They do that to make sure they are in the right place, not for some ulterior motive. How did she know your room number? When chicks come to my apartment they always ask for the room number. I tell them I have to open the door anyway so just send me a message when they are downstairs.

    I have never understood why people say you get what you pay for. 2000 baht short time and had a shitty time. I have never even paid 2000 for long time and 99% have a great time. Before I agreed to 2000 short time for a chick I have never laid eyes on, I would be on Soi 6 or at one these gentleman's clubs / BJ bars for the 1000 to 1400. In my opinion it is less money for more fun. But then again I make my own fun so it does not matted where I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    While leaving she says good bye with a smile. I said I am not happy she didn't even acknowledge it, just opened the door and left. Wow, just wow!
    Maybe you missed my post about the importance of a foreigner and what he thinks come right after the importance of the fleas on their dog. No need in wasting your breath saying you were not happy. But I guess you saw that first hand.
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  14. #41913
    Forgot to mention, she also took photos of the hotel, the lift and even my room number and shared with me saying she wanted to confirm. Definitely she had some plans, just in case I refused to pay the agreed amount!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulalaulala123  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the replies and advice. Unfortunately today was not my day. Initially I was thanking my lucky stars that a young 21 yr good looking chick is finally coming to meet. She was not budging from 2000 baht so I agreed. But alas, my excitement was soon going to turn into a big disappointment.

    1st red flag was she bypassed reception. I had asked her to come to lobby and message me but she directly went to elevator and asked for my floor and room number. I thought she might have submitted her ID and then came up. I realised what she did when there was no call from reception after she left.

    2nd red flag. The moment she entered the room she had a mood off face. So much that I asked her if she is tired or drunk but she replied in negative. When I tried to kiss she was pushing me away saying my beard hurts her. Tried to kiss boobs, got same response. Started with boom boom but within 3 minutes says you are hurting me I won't continue. Left for shower, came back and started wearing clothes. I told her atleast finish with hand, she looked at me with a very angry look. To be honest throughout her short stay she did not smile even once and kept murmuring things in Thai. I thought better not to escalate the situation and handed over the agreed 2000 baht which she gladly accepted.

    While leaving she says good bye with a smile. I said I am not happy she didn't even acknowledge it, just opened the door and left. Wow, just wow!

    Sometimes I wonder maybe it's better that such rotten girls don't agree to meet us!

  15. #41912

    Horrible TF experience!

    Thanks for the replies and advice. Unfortunately today was not my day. Initially I was thanking my lucky stars that a young 21 yr good looking chick is finally coming to meet. She was not budging from 2000 baht so I agreed. But alas, my excitement was soon going to turn into a big disappointment.

    1st red flag was she bypassed reception. I had asked her to come to lobby and message me but she directly went to elevator and asked for my floor and room number. I thought she might have submitted her ID and then came up. I realised what she did when there was no call from reception after she left.

    2nd red flag. The moment she entered the room she had a mood off face. So much that I asked her if she is tired or drunk but she replied in negative. When I tried to kiss she was pushing me away saying my beard hurts her. Tried to kiss boobs, got same response. Started with boom boom but within 3 minutes says you are hurting me I won't continue. Left for shower, came back and started wearing clothes. I told her atleast finish with hand, she looked at me with a very angry look. To be honest throughout her short stay she did not smile even once and kept murmuring things in Thai. I thought better not to escalate the situation and handed over the agreed 2000 baht which she gladly accepted.

    While leaving she says good bye with a smile. I said I am not happy she didn't even acknowledge it, just opened the door and left. Wow, just wow!

    Sometimes I wonder maybe it's better that such rotten girls don't agree to meet us!

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