Pattaya Reports

[Chris P]

Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019)

It would be really fascinating to hear about your trip in 1974, how it was and how it's changed since then.

[GentileBear]

Thank You StLouisMo2010 !! That was Epic. And yes sir. Like my user-name I like to give the ladies a Gentle Hug and wait for a smile. Thai's for me seem more poker-face than Pinay's. But the genuine smile when I bear hug them is my Go or No Go approach to see how their attitude will be.

Again thanks for the info and That's a lot of Sessions for being in your 70's!

[NamasteParis]

TF has one major problem. There is no predictability when the girl will arrive. It can be anywhere between 1 hour to 3 hours.

As a french writer said: "If she is late, she will come! "

[Nixonbd]

Great report. How did you find the condo?

I've been viewing "Condo6.com"; a lot of options being advertised. I may book a 3-4 week stay at one of them.

[Bugzy 69]

What a great report mate, you brought up some amazing memories from Jomtien area, a location I fell in love with since my first visit way back 2004. Rompho market bars and others on Sois 3-7 will give that laid back feel away from the hustle and bustle of Pattaya. On my off-pussy-days I use to frequent a sports bar named Frasers. Behind the gay area you mentioned there was a massive bar with lots and lots of drinks from all over the world, like a 100's type of whiskeys and the whole lot.

Well done for your report and trip.

"Jomtien- Soi 3-9 Bars: multiple bars along these roads between Beach Road and Second Road, mixed within other businesses. Most have the same format of a few girls in the front near the road encouraging customers to come in- to be entertained by the girls in conversation, to my knowledge all are available for bar fine, I expect at 300 with 1000-1200 Baht for the lady, most of the ladies are on the mature side of the spectrum. Beer cost of 65-70, Scotch about the same. A few ladyboys but not many.

Jomtien- Thapphraya Rd (Second Road to Beach Road) this is the main road between Pattaya and the Beach in Jomtien. With about 10 bars and restaurants sometimes called restaurant row- several good bars with street view, service ladies to keep the drinks flowing- Country Road, Country Club, Escobar, Pool Bar, Sand Bar, to name a few which will have a variety of European customers, ladies, all with pretty good music, live on occasion, lots of street food available."

[Mr Enternational]

Thailand is looking for a better class of tourist but these days they can't get tourists from Red China, so they are making deals with India.

They have always made deals with India. I have a friend in Bangkok that would go to India to advertise Thai tourism and packages. She would come to Pattaya to check out the hotels that were included in the packages. And that was years ago. I have not talked to her in a few years.

[Blue Nose]

Great report! I'm arriving in early September; staying at Areca Lodge first time. We used to stay at LK Empress on Beach Road, but as well noted, not much action on Beach or Second Road these days. We've concentrated on the LK Metro area for several years now. Billabong in the past had some great older freelancers and Sugar-Sugar had the hottest girls, IMHO.

We may go to WS once in the whole stay. Soi Pothole looks like my kind of Soi; small, seedy bars. Tree Town looks a little too bright and glitzy, but we'll give it a walk, I'm sure. Soi 6 is always an adventure, but can be pricy. Buy one girl a drink and before you know it, you've bought all the girls drinks.

One area that was not covered is "Soi Boomerang". What is the vibe there? Looks to be mostly "Club" type venues with only a few outdoor bars.

You're smart to stay at Areca Lodge. It's right near Buakhow but still with easy access to 2nd Road. The LK Empress is a nice enough place, and you can't beat the view, but it's just too far from the action these days and you'll spend all your time walking. LK Empress also has a lot of families / couples, which I try to avoid.

There's actually more to Tree Town than just Tree Town. I recommend walking through the main area to the bar complexes "past Tree Town". Once you get away from the craziness of the main complex on Buakhow, there are many smaller bars / complexes to choose from. Just take a stroll to see what you see. If you find someone you like, stop in for a beer. Bar fines from these bars are very reasonable (I pulled from Lai's Bar in April) and are close enough to Areca Lodge that you'll have nice easy logistics. There is even, I believe, a G-Club in the "behind Tree Town" section although I've not yet visited.

As for Soi Boomerang, it was mainly closed in April but it's open now. You're correct in that it's mainly G-Clubs. I visited on my last trip and lots of girls out front at most places. I stopped in at one G-Club (can't remember the name) at the end of the soi on the left, just before you go around the corner. Nice place, brand new interior, good selection of women but not as hands one as G-Clubs on Soi Pothole and drinks were more. So, if you see someone, pull them inside for one drink and then either head upstairs or move on. I made the mistake of buying too many LDs without taking the girl ST. There's also one beer bar that's open-air on the corner ("Warm Up" bar or something like that) where you can have a beer, chill, and view the talent on the soi. Next time, I'll take that approach until I see someone I like.

Have fun next month, and please report back on your trip!

[CaliGuy33]

Went over to Koh Larn today. Took a TF girl with me and gave her 500 Baht to spend the whole day with me.

Lovely experience. I don't get the complaints regarding Koh Larn. The water at Tien Beach was breathtaking, crystal clear. Not to many tourists on the island, all the Indians go to Taewan Beach, hordes of them there. Tien and Samae had very little people.

Motorbike rental for only 200 baht. Ferry each way only 30 baht.

Overall, such a cheap and awesome way to spend the day.

I plan to go back in a few days, this time by myself and explore the little island more.

[Downandup]

StLouisMo2010 A great update.

How is it: I found Pattaya / Jomtien had recovered about 75% from Covid-

That's about right.

Soi 6- the famous street of about 15 Brothels

A lot more than that were open in June, last Christmas was dire.

Walking Street-about 50%+ of pre-covid experience, mostly Indian men with a representation of Europeans.

Thailand is looking for a better class of tourist but these days they can't get tourists from Red China, so they are making deals with India.

[The Creaper]

There is a policy at Maggie Mays that if you buy a lady 4 tequilas, she has to get naked. I had forgotten about it, until the ladies with me got naked. And then the other ladies followed suit.

Same rule follows at Camel Toe. Same owner same rules, Come and check it out for yourself.

[Downandup]

I've used taxis to and from Pattaya to the airport and back...

Taxis, downstairs at the Airport, you should easily be able to catch and pay one 1500 baht, they might start talking about charging extra per bag and toll, the toll is only 105 baht.

Taxi's to Pattaya are fast and convenient, I always use https://www.namstaxiladydrivers.com as they are very professional and careful drivers. You book ahead and about 24 hours before, you get an email with the name of your driver and pickup location. Their prices have dropped recently, only 1400 including tolls for the largest vehicle between the airport and Pattaya, I throw in an extra 1000 as the service is so reliable and that was their regular price.

[Thampi62]

I had the opportunity to return to Thailand in Mid-May until Mid-June of 2022 after all the Testing restrictions were cancelled, just prior to the operating hour changes (which meant very little) were abandoned. Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019) so I have familiarity with the country and my last few trips have been predominantly to Pattaya / Jomtien. I am American, just retired business type which allowed me to have an extended stay.

I have read the Forum daily for years- finding it quite informative and a good guide from especially those on the ground living in Pattaya. Based on information gleaned from the Forum I have traveled as a Tourist who enjoys ladies, not a monger.

Therefore, this Report may be helpful to Newbies, and it is also an update for future and experienced travelers.

Highly informative and detailed report sir. How was your personal experience on Thai friendly girls vs freelancers vs bar girls? Never stayed in Jomtien. Now got the inspiration. Do we get freelancers easily in Jomtien area?

[Member #4753]

I had the opportunity to return to Thailand in Mid-May until Mid-June of 2022 after all the Testing restrictions were cancelled, just prior to the operating hour changes (which meant very little) were abandoned. Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019) so I have familiarity with the country and my last few trips have been predominantly to Pattaya / Jomtien. I am American, just retired business type which allowed me to have an extended stay.

I have read the Forum daily for years- finding it quite informative and a good guide from especially those on the ground living in Pattaya. Based on information gleaned from the Forum I have traveled as a Tourist who enjoys ladies, not a monger.

Therefore, this Report may be helpful to Newbies, and it is also an update for future and experienced travelers.

What a great no nonsense, no BS report. Kudos to you sir!

[Mr Enternational]

29 Days on the Ground, Exchange rate: 35 Baht to US $, May-June 2022.

Condo 20,000 Baht (penthouse, maid service, utilities) - this was higher than I should have paid (about $25 US / Day actual).

Great report. How did you find the condo?

[StLouisMo2010]

I had the opportunity to return to Thailand in Mid-May until Mid-June of 2022 after all the Testing restrictions were cancelled, just prior to the operating hour changes (which meant very little) were abandoned. Over the years I have been to Thailand 8 times (1974-2019) so I have familiarity with the country and my last few trips have been predominantly to Pattaya / Jomtien. I am American, just retired business type which allowed me to have an extended stay.

I have read the Forum daily for years- finding it quite informative and a good guide from especially those on the ground living in Pattaya. Based on information gleaned from the Forum I have traveled as a Tourist who enjoys ladies, not a monger.

Therefore, this Report may be helpful to Newbies, and it is also an update for future and experienced travelers.

How is it: I found Pattaya / Jomtien had recovered about 75% from Covid- physically. There are a lot of stores, restaurants, attractions, hotels, which have not opened- some in good repair, most not. The people had a very hard time with the pandemic, many are still hungry, most have lost all their savings if they had any, but there is optimism or a way to ignore their plight as they enter the rainy season and hope for the best "high season" in history next year.

Some acquaintances ask why I return Thailand via that awful long airplane trip. Well a few thoughts and reasons: in Thailand- no one cares what I look like (prior descriptions of visitors are accurate), the weather, the food is good and cheap, no car is needed as taxi, bus and Baht Bus (10 Baht) can easily move you from one point to another easily, accommodations are varied and inexpensive, there is quite a bit to do, but I do recommend establishing a routine for your day. Get into a routine- can't drink all the time- walk, swim, eat, keep up with paperwork, computer, world events, foot massage, afternoon session, tourist attractions, breakfast, walks.

People watching is a major thing to do, and language is easy to get by with English.

Costs are very reasonable for local products and services. Imported products are expensive- but not really needed.

Money- is easy to calculate, easy to convert anywhere- change money at airport- lowest level, exit 10- use elevators- signs for Train but the overall difference from one Change Place to another is not that great. ATM machines are all over the place and easy to use.

I also like the Thai people, but they don't smile as much as they should or as they are purported to be. As elsewhere, some are good looking- many are plain, and hard-working individuals. Has the quality of ladies gone down hill over the years- I doubt it, but not all the ladies are great looking it is a matter of prospective of who you are, what can you get where you live, how much will you pay to be with that individual- home or in Thailand.

I have personally found that there are ladies of all ages, sizes, shapes, and colors available. I found that the younger ladies have more silicone, more tattoos, more colored hair, and less sense than more mature ladies.

Ladies can be found everywhere in summary; I found the following:

Soi 6- the famous street of about 15 Brothels with lots of young low class, tattooed girls begging for customers from the front of the bars closest to the street (walking) - this is not my style at all, so I just look.

LK Meto- an upcoming group of bars, clubs, Go Go's, gentlemen's clubs, mostly European customers, easy to be a customer, good vibe, some freelancers, service workers are all available for rent, worth a visit.

Tree Town- near by new grouping of upscale beer bars, seemed to be more service workers than European customers but that may have been the time of night- may be more freelancers than elsewhere, worth a visit.

Past.

Walking Street-about 50%+ of pre-covid experience, mostly Indian men with a representation of Europeans. Gogo's I went to only had Europeans, I spoke with the manager of one club who indicated that the Indian crowd does not spend well or at all, therefore they are not welcome, but there are some Indian establishments which are jam packed. Lots of road and building construction which needs to be cleaned up eventually. I spoke with a Club Manager who related his thinking that Walking Street will not be "back" as it was before, before next October / November. The Manager related that the cost of $200 US round trip India- Bangkok is motivating this surge in Indian tourism- ra ra.

Windmill Gogo- everything ever written is true about this Gogo, lots of girls, doing lots of things including naked shower, pussy dive, mostly all in good taste or taste good- the quality of the girls was high, however not as high as expected- Windmill did even have several "heavyweight girls" and some I would not be interested in, each to their own. Note draught beer- 80 Baht before 10:00 pm- not bad for the show which can be had just by going in the door, lady drinks about 150 Baht I think, maybe a little higher but not outlandish and they open the door for a lot of attention.

Dollhouse- quiet, about 20 girls- many 5-6 quality, very slow few customers.

Many other Walking Street Establishments- many not open, others less business, some for smoking, some Ladyboy, some middle eastern, some restaurants, don't know if 7/11 is open- probably.

Bamboo Bar near Walking street- NOT OPEN I heard they made somebody mad, but I think they will open in the future- the premiere location for finding a mature lady for the night- classic fixture of the.

Jomtien- Rhompo Complex- group of about 10 "beer bars" next to a car park which turns into a street food complex at night (very good). These bars seem to have some loyal customers (Aussie, European) low key, music, some singing, pool, more mature service staff and girls- good, relaxed atmosphere- bar fine was 300 Bt. Last I checked. Some Ladyboys mixed into the service staff not necessarily announced, so be aware.

Jomtien- Soi 3-9 Bars: multiple bars along these roads between Beach Road and Second Road, mixed within other businesses. Most have the same format of a few girls in the front near the road encouraging customers to come in- to be entertained by the girls in conversation, to my knowledge all are available for bar fine, I expect at 300 with 1000-1200 Baht for the lady, most of the ladies are on the mature side of the spectrum. Beer cost of 65-70, Scotch about the same. A few ladyboys but not many.

Jomtien- Thapphraya Rd (Second Road to Beach Road) this is the main road between Pattaya and the Beach in Jomtien. With about 10 bars and restaurants sometimes called restaurant row- several good bars with street view, service ladies to keep the drinks flowing- Country Road, Country Club, Escobar, Pool Bar, Sand Bar, to name a few which will have a variety of European customers, ladies, all with pretty good music, live on occasion, lots of street food available. There is even a new Gogo near the beach with a 'higher' end bar, worth a look. There are also approximately 10 restaurants mixed in along this route, various cuisine and price points, along with retail, and service shops.

Jomtien Complex- entry from this location, is an area nicely done of multiple massage (boy) parlors, small bars, small, good restaurants, several hotels, a showroom, and multiple larger bars- all marketing to the Gay crowd- all very well done and in good taste- worth the walk thru.

Gentlemen's Clubs- there are probably at least a dozen of these which are primarily open 2-9 have ladies and service workers, pool, some food, some have rooms all that I heard or saw had 300 Bhat room fee, 1000 girl fee all for on site entertainment. Numerous in LK Metro area, 3-4 in Jomtien, several in Pratamnak, others elsewhere with similar pricing I believe. These may not be for everyone but worth a look, for some low-key entertainment- but some of these do get going with a lot of down and dirty as I understand.

Thai Friendly- there are multiple ladies listed on Thai Friendly for which I would guess that 80% are Pay for Play and the remainder will not be offended if asked.

I am a premium member and find it worth the investment and valued for the entertainment value. I have monitored TF for a few months prior to the trip and kept in touch with selected few prior to arrival. I listed the data I obtained and the candidates from TF and used it upon arrival.

There are no secrets of success which I can guarantee, but some things I do: only look at those with pictures, only pictures of smiling ladies, more attention to those who "like or are interested in me", use the filter for age if desired- it cuts it down significantly. If you send a message and don't get an answer- wastebasket, presume that they are Pay for Play, if they are not, they will let you know quickly- don't be embarrassed of apologetic.

Language can be a challenge, but most do have basic English skills, enough. Most of these ladies don't keep a good calendar so follow-ups to appointments are recommended, and don't plan more than a day ahead I don't think the Thai mind plans too far ahead.

Many ladies are associated with Massage Shops somehow, so in many cases I would ask if they give massage at my condo- if yes, to me it says FS, therefore I would follow-up asking for "massage and short time" which usually got a good response and seemed to relieve the lady of complications with her employer.

Try to move any conversation to Line ID- men, you must have Line ID also, it is free. The Girls like it because it is free, there is no time limit on messages, and it is fast. You and the lady can send pictures back and forth, have call capability, and you can send a map of your location so the girl will know where to meet you.

As I stayed in a Condo, there was no "front desk or security" check-in, once I have an appointment with the lady I would send a map and address of my condo (floor and number) and they would come directly to my room door upon arrival. I used Thai Friendly for my sessions on the whole and 32 of the 33 ladies came directly to my door- easy.

I found that the age indicated on the TF profile was generally out of date by 2 years (less) and most ladies reduced their age several years as well. The average age of the ladies I engaged was 37 years old, the only issues I had in response or showing up was for ladies below 30- lots of cancels, no call backs, etc. I found the difference between a young hardbody and a more mature 30 something was negligible physically and much more positive for the session.

I repeated with about 1/3 of my TF Ladies, which certainly provided a more GFE session on the 2nd and 3rd session and the knowledge that I was staying for a month may have provided some motivation to the Lady. I don't recommend going more than 3 sessions in repeat- some get too possessive.

I would also session many times in late afternoon and afterwards numerous ladies and I would go drinking, dinner, clubs, and walks to look at the sunset. Like a date after the session, these can be enjoyable and inexpensive in the long run, many which lead to a good night session at the condo.

As I said, I stayed in a Condo in Jomtien (View Taly) which is a 25 ish year-old high-rise building, which I selected due to location etc. I have stayed in a hotel in the area previously and enjoyed it, but the size, kitchen, amenities, and price all made it work for me very well. I do recommend that an office of the Condo Agent be within the Condo for "communications issues". These condos are independently owned and leased by Agents who generally have small offices in the Condo building. The girls really liked the condo (22nd floor) view of the beach all the way to Sattiup.

Jomtien vs. Pattaya- I stayed in Jomtien because of the smaller village feeling that it has. It is quieter, which is a plus and a negative, with possibly fewer tour groups, a better beach, more local restaurants, fewer tattoos, etc. Jomtien is contiguous to Pattaya, so it is very close to Walking Street and not far from LK Metro- all on the Baht Bus route. I also think Jomtien is more European / Aussie than Pattaya and it is more mature in visitors as well.

FYI- Test and Go and Covid Insurance- I had to sign-up for these before the process was cancelled just before my arrival. I went to the reserved Hotel while in Pattaya and negotiated return of some of the unused expenses (all) I was able to obtain the refund less 30% "processing fee" from the Hotel- I could not even get someone to talk to from the Insurance Company- no surprise.

Pricing: I did not think the prices have changed much from 2019 when I last visited. I would say I was conservative but no where near a Cheap Charlie, the following summarizes some expense:

29 Days on the Ground, Exchange rate: 35 Baht to US $, May-June 2022.

Condo 20,000 Baht (penthouse, maid service, utilities) - this was higher than I should have paid (about $25 US / Day actual).

Transportation 5500 Baht- includes Taxi RT to Airport, BKK Trip, local rides- (about $5 US / Day.

Food 22,000 Baht- American Breakfast daily, nice dinner, street food lunch, snacks, some "date diners" included (about $22 US / day).

Beverage 8800 Baht- mostly beer at 65-75/ beer- (about 8. 50/ day).

Misc. 4300 Baht- Laundry, meds, gifts, foot massage (about 5. 00/ day).

Entertainment: 52,500 Baht- 32 sessions, 17 ladies.

1,500 Bhat highest session cost, 1,000 Bhat many sessions.

"Massage and Short Time" mostly 1,200.

Would not pay higher than 1,500.

Some gifts and expenses associated with above within the total making session cost some higher.

I will be back in Jomtien in 2023 for my 73rd Birthday.

I hope the information I have shared will be of use to future travelers and update others on what is happening in Pattaya / Jomtien.

Cheers.