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  1. #34709
    Quote Originally Posted by FKKHeartEmoji  [View Original Post]
    Never heard about this place. Could you share a bit more on how it works?

    - Rooms available.

    - Number of girls.

    - How much time would you spend there and what time is "peak"?

    Thanks in advance!
    I believe if you do a Youtube search it will come up. There are a number of other GC in the area, if you are an old guy Soi 6 there is a place called Suana it has a pool and Freelancer worker not my type of place I don't get off seeing fat guys in speedos laying around LOL. The night from what everyone tells me is for the younger crowd.

    But in general, Kinnarree has around 10 rooms the cost to use these rooms are 350, the standard price since I've been going has been 1000 to the girl the great thing never had to think or talk price you pick the girl go to the room pay that amount or more up to you never had a problem. Now I will have to double-check since Mr. E brought up that the price might have gone up a bit. There is a Tom who is a waiter next time I'm there I'll talk to him about the increase. There is also the owner Carmine who usually is sitting in the back of the bar on a stool-friendly guy you can ask him also.

    It is hard to tell how many it seems on food days Wed, Sat and Sunday there are more girls 20 my guess? They are all freelancers in all my years and looks is each his own I've maybe seen half a dozen that would turn my head and say she can work at a top GoGo, many are in their 30's another guess but for sure some are in early 40's I mainly go there for service. I've had a tall, short, fat, skinny, small chest, big chest, but first base to getting my attention got to have a good pair of legs. The great thing mainly they hang outside the bathroom, there are three main rooms, for sitting the girls will roam around and ask if you want company no pressure I normally just say " I'm looking first " never had any get mad it works both ways they are there to make money once you are done especially food days you come out if you aren't buying another drink they will friendly say goodbye and start to work on another customer. Once done come out and finish my existing drink and I'm done. There have been times busy food days or not guys like to buy drinks lots of them before they take the girl one bad luck if it is a girl you might want? I normally go and sit at the big round table in the back before you go out the glass door to the rooms, if you get the sit with the door to your back you look up and there is a glass window to the girl's dressing room you can also see the regulars come to work they need to climb up the spiral staircase.

    Good luck, like the guy said just go if you never do you will never know!

    Good luck,

  2. #34708

    Much easier

    Quote Originally Posted by FKKHeartEmoji  [View Original Post]
    Never heard about this place. Could you share a bit more on how it works?

    - Rooms available.

    - Number of girls.

    - How much time would you spend there and what time is "peak"?

    Thanks in advance!
    Just go visit Kinnaree and you will have your questions answered. It's not that expensive. Otherwise, use the search function to learn everything about the place

  3. #34707
    Today I invited a new lady over to my condo. I hooked up with her via Facebook, but didn't bother to check her profile, or anything, for that matter. No time.

    She showed up 30 minutes late.

    We began to drink, and she wolfed down 6 or 7 shots of tequila. After about 90 minutes, she was ready to fuck.

    But there was a problem. I am going to a hotel in Wongamat tonight with a lady freak from Cambodia, a silicon enhanced 3 holer. So, I didn't plan on cumming this afternoon.

    But here I was with a lady determined to score a goal. Her pussy was wet, she gave me the standard BBBJ, and pulled down my shorts. We were on a sofa, she got on top of me, and pumped away. I tried to resist, but she was a Thai lady with a decent rack, good figure, and tight pussy, and I could feel the inevitable urge to finish coming.

    So I faked it. I pulled my dick out and ran to the shower.

    While we were drinking, she told me she worked factory in Rayong, but lived with her mother in Pattaya. She was getting a lot of messages from Thai men, which is common for Thai ladies.

    Anyway, after she left, I checked her Facebook profile, apparently, she is a freelancer. I suspect she used to work Soi 6.

    Anyway, I sent her off with some baht, and I am sure she has already hooked up with her honey.

    Meanwhile, I have to sober up before the lady freak shows up.

  4. #34706
    I always forget that Thai ladies consider the appointment time to be the time they leave home, not the time of arrival.

    Memo to myself: make appointment times 15 minutes early, IE 12:45 instead of 13.00.

  5. #34705
    Quote Originally Posted by Neidermeyer  [View Original Post]


    Health - A word on safe sex for those who may be concerned. While I don't like to use a condom, I do protect myself by taking PReP and Acylovir to reduce the chances of contracting HIV and herpes respectively. I also carry antibiotics for bacterial infections. Despite this, there are obviously still risks which I accept and each should understand and consider personally.


    Neidermeyer.
    Forgive my ignorance, but does Acyclovir work with the uninfected person taking it? Everything I've read about Acyclovir online has stated it's the infected person that takes it to prevent transmission to an uninfected person. Is Acyclovir an effective preventative against herpes if it's just the uninfected person taking it and the infected person is not?

  6. #34704

    A 24 hour snapshot

    Went down to soi 6 for a bit of fun, stopped in one of those first bars with a few cute girls sitting outside that hardly ever seems to have customers and order a beer. The girls then shift to the other side of the bar and play with their phones, I try to get a girls attention and see if she's worth buying a drink but she quickly jumps back over to the other girls. Management must not care much about getting their girls to keep customers at the bar. Payed up and left without even leaving a 5 baht tip. Walked on down and went into a bar with the half of beer that I brought from the first bar and ordered another beer, no problem at all taking my time drinking a beer from another bar. A cutie I've been with many times over these last 7 months was sitting at the front of the bar and quickly started giving me a lap dance in one of those school skirts. And that skirt allowed me to reach around and finger her the entire time. And after a good ten minute HJ while sitting at the bar through my shorts decided it was time to take her upstairs again. Was a very very good romp.

    So took another bit of a walk down 6 and stopped in another bar I like, the manager there likes to drink and since there were few customers he started offering me shots and then saying 'I'll do one with you'. I call over a girl with the hottest ass I've ever seen and buy her a drink, she's grinding on me like there's no tomorrow. Now I've been told by 2 girls at this bar that they were 'on their period' so I wanted to test out the hotty on my lap so after the first drink I said 'we go upstairs?' and to my surprise she said 'sure'. Didn't really need another round of sex but I was committed so went upstairs and fucked her in doggy with that amazing ass at the edge of the bed. We get done and head back downstairs where I buy her another drink. Manager comes over and says 'you want a shot?' and I said sure. Then ten minutes later he offers me another shot. Well ok I guess. Later he says 'hit that red button on the table and buy the girls a drink'. Never done that before so asked what the total damage would be. So he went up and asked. And it was only 1400 baht. So I said sure. All the girls were going crazy rushing to the table then. Few minutes later I realize I'm the only customer in the bar so I stand up, pull my girl off of her stool and put her behind me with her hands on my waste and started a conga line, grabbing girls and throwing them to the back of the line while weaving in and out of the tables. Must have had 9 girls trailing behind me laughing their asses off. More shots and more shots. And then it was time to head back to my condo.

    I woke up around 4 am and see a steak I pulled from the freezer sitting on the counter. So fried that up and crashed after eating it. Woke up at 1 pm when my phone vibrated, completely forgot I had asked a girl to come over at 2 pm and she was telling me she was getting ready. Well ok then. Grabbed a shower and a light breakfast and escorted her up to the room a half hour later. Had tons of energy and only a tiny hangover from the day before and had her screaming in the bedroom for a good hour, hardly ever last more than 30 minutes. Must have been all the fun from the day before helping me along. She then left and I opened up a beer and realized that my day was done. Had zero energy to want to do anything. So I just chilled the entire day and recharged for the next.

  7. #34703
    My impressions of Pattaya last night: it's definitely low season now. Bars are ramping up hiring of ladies, but customers are fewer now. So, more empty bars, despite plenty of ladies.

    Many bars are tiny, just the first floor of a shophouse. So, 2 or 3 customers can make them appear busy. Even so, some bars are dead, at least for the moment.

    Summer is always slow in Pattaya, the only difference now is that bars are opening after 2 years, just as low season hits.

    This December should be the biggest high season ever!

  8. #34702
    Five years ago, I ran into 3 sisters, and they passed me around for a few months before going home to Isaan. One was a bit of a Tom, which led to some extra credit fun.

    Yesterday, I got a message stating that they came back to Pattaya. But, I already had a lady for the night, one of a set of twins who I have been seeing since the 3 sisters left town. But, I decided, Mai pen rai, and went out with the 4 ladies.

    All 4 of the ladies have Thai husbands, so how they could go out to the bars was a bit of a mystery.

    Anyway, I just took the single twin home, but the 3 sisters will be around for a few days. And tonight, I will be going to Cape Dara resort with a silicon enhanced bargirl.

  9. #34701

    The Thailand After Dark

    Hello guys,

    Thailand After Dark Chatroom looking for ISG guys to join and share good info in the fast-growing community on Telegram! Live discussions, meet-ups, info on go go bars, massage parlors, freelancers, hotels & food!

    Invite link on reddit - https://www.reddit.com/r/ThailandAft...or_info_on_go/.

  10. #34700

    Interesting!

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBigMan  [View Original Post]
    Kinneree is my favorite spot GC was just there Thursday afternoon at 1 pm, I make it a regular thing to not go on food days which are Wed, Sat, and Sun out of all the food days Saturday is probably the best since many like the ribs. You be surprised how many on the food days like to drink and buy them for the ladies by the time they are ready you are over the limit and your meal is free. Although not a big drink buyer usually the girl I take by the time feels out whether she ticks all the boxes she gets two if she is any good might get a 3rd before I leave. The non-Food day is slow, especially these covid days.

    Didn't get into prices since I always pay the 1000 baht if they tick all the boxes I just 1200 which is what happened on Thursday.
    Never heard about this place. Could you share a bit more on how it works?

    - Rooms available.

    - Number of girls.

    - How much time would you spend there and what time is "peak"?

    Thanks in advance!

  11. #34699
    Quote Originally Posted by Neidermeyer  [View Original Post]
    Prior to pursuing CIP, I asked all of the girls about birth control and all but one said they were protected. Most indicated they got an injection. This was a slight surprise to me as I had assumed birth control usage would be low due to cost,
    How much did you suppose it costs?

  12. #34698

    BBFS+CIP Thoughts

    Gentlemen,

    I just returned from 10 days in Thailand (Pattaya and Bangkok) during which I ventured into the BBFS+CIP realm for the first time within the hobbying context. I am mid-40's, white, average looking, and in good shape. For the benefit of the board, here are my results:

    Results - 9 girls total: 7 BBFS (78% success rate); 5 BBFS+CIP (56% success rate); 2 Condom (22% objection rate).

    The 9 girls were fairly even distributed across venues:

    4 from gogos: all allowed BBFS+CIP.

    2 from Soi Pothole: 1 BBFS+CIP; 1 BBFS only.

    1 from Thai Friendly: BBFS only.

    1 from Soi 6: Insisted on condom.

    1 from the street: Insisted on condom.

    Gogos included Windmill, Babydolls, and Tilac Bar (in Soi Cowboy). These are perhaps on the naughtier side so I'm not sure my results would have been the same had I pulled from the more "glam" gogos. One girl from Soi Pothole agreed to CIP but I decided not to pursue because she wasn't on birth control. Therefore, the Soi Pothole bars were effectively 100% success rate for BBFS+CIP.

    In addition, I also received BBBJ in Pandoras gogo, Elite GC, and Bada Bing GC; and skin-to-skin lapdances in Windmill, Babydolls, Bada Bing, and Longun gogo (Soi Cowboy).

    Birth control - Prior to pursuing CIP, I asked all of the girls about birth control and all but one said they were protected. Most indicated they got an injection. This was a slight surprise to me as I had assumed birth control usage would be low due to cost, but am happy to report that it seems at least some girls are taking precautions. I hope it's true.

    Approach for BBFS - Regarding the best approach to secure BBFS, I previously always adopted the "go with the flow" approach rather than negotiating upfront, but for this trip I changed tactics and experimented with discussing upfront. Doing this, I found my BBFS success rate was essentially unchanged from prior trips. This leads me to conclude that for the most part these girls are either okay with BBFS or they're not; it doesn't really matter if you discuss ahead of time or not. What will be will be.

    Given this, one might logically conclude that negotiating upfront is always the best approach since it enables you to clarify which type of girl you're dealing with before investing more time, money, and travel, etc. And I think this is generally correct. The rub is that girls don't always act consistently (shocker, I know). So even if a girl generally insists on a condom, once she's comfortable with you and is naked in your bed feeling wet and horny, it's possible she'll agree to BBFS in the moment when she wouldn't have done so upfront in the starkness of the club. As a result, on the margins, I think the "go with the flow" approach is likely to yield slightly more success overall than the upfront approach.

    However, the "go with the flow" approach also carries significant downside risk. One could spend thousands of baht in barfines and other hassles in pursuit of only slightly better chances of BBFS compared to simply discussing upfront. As a result, I plan to adopt the following blended strategy going forward:

    Scenario 1 - The girl is so hot that I don't care or I'm out of options for the night and am going to take her regardless. My approach = don't ask about BBFS. Just go with the flow and assume she's okay with it until proven otherwise.

    Scenario 2 - Includes every other situation including Thai Friendly and those where I have more time or choice. My approach = gain BBFS agreement upfront or move on.

    I know this may seem like common sense and overly simplistic, but based on personal experience and some experimentation I now feel confident that this is the optimum strategy for me.

    Health - A word on safe sex for those who may be concerned. While I don't like to use a condom, I do protect myself by taking PReP and Acylovir to reduce the chances of contracting HIV and herpes respectively. I also carry antibiotics for bacterial infections. Despite this, there are obviously still risks which I accept and each should understand and consider personally.

    Summary - In summary, based on my experience I can validate that BBFS is widely available in Pattaya and the majority of girls who agree to BBFS will also agree to CIP. This a much higher rate than I expected so am quite happy to have discovered this little nugget. My results are obviously anecdotal so YMMV as always. I'd be curious to know what others have experienced.

    Neidermeyer.

  13. #34697

    Interesting shop talk

    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    This subject is one of the more interesting shop talks on here and I think it warrants a good deal of discussion. Like many things with a human element, it really is an Art more than a Science, so STEM career mongers or otherwise analytical types will miss a bit of the picture because there is so much that is interpretative and in the moment. The negotiation can be a kind of dance based on intuition and emotional intelligence.

    The "go with the flow" is a valid technique, and actually it's one I do use occasionally- but only if the ST rate discussed is on the low side (1000 baht). Many girls on this end of the price curve are usually more receptive in general because they perceive their value as lower, and also if things go sideways, I'm not going to feel too bad about being out of 1000 baht.

    Anything higher than this I will secure some sort of commitment, but the negotiation is often a dance around it, using the possibility as a bargaining chip, but also leaving it largely implied. If she says "you can do anything but finish in my mouth" I will take this as permission for CIP even though it is not explicit.
    Quote Originally Posted by RakSopheni  [View Original Post]
    A summary glance at my Thaifriendly to Line pipeline and it looks like ⅓ flat out reject no condom, ⅓ will but for an additional fee, and ⅓ are open to it or implied that anything is on the table. I think most of the time if you can't get BBFS, you should be able to at least get a BBBJ with CIM.
    RS,

    I appreciate your thoughtful response as always.

    I understand that trying to measure this hobby analytically alone can be folly as it misses the interpersonal nuances that are often the key to success. I totally get it. That said, I do think the numbers can be instructive and I very much appreciate your perspective.

    I'll soon post a summary of my most recent experiences and thoughts on the subject.

  14. #34696
    The other night at Baccara, I dreamed that I was kidnapping all the girls present on the stage when they changed their session, that is to say when there were the most of them. I was taking them to a desert island, just me and them. I was the boss. So they had to wash the dishes. This dream also works very well in Pin Up and Farenheit.

    No, no, I mustn't fall in love with the pretty number 369 of Sapphyre. She haunts my evenings and even now also my days, I think only of her. Her laughing eyes, her mischievous smile when she dances, I mustn't see them again in front of me.

  15. #34695
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You guys are making the easiest place on earth complicated. Only 2 pieces of information are needed here:

    1. Walk down the street, or into a massage shop, or into a bar, or into a disco. See a chick. Go fuck.

    2. Get on Thai Friendly. See a chick. Go fuck.

    If you need any other information then you are just trying to waste time and not trying to fuck.

    By the way, was in Kinneree on Saturday. Price is now 1200 for a chick and 350 for the room. My buddy said if you spend 1000 then the buffet is free. Don't know what else you would be spending 1000 on except a chick. But that day they had ribs and salad that looked like burgers. My friend ate but I did not. I think he paid like 350 for the buffet. There were plenty of chicks there.
    Kinneree is my favorite spot GC was just there Thursday afternoon at 1 pm, I make it a regular thing to not go on food days which are Wed, Sat, and Sun out of all the food days Saturday is probably the best since many like the ribs. You be surprised how many on the food days like to drink and buy them for the ladies by the time they are ready you are over the limit and your meal is free. Although not a big drink buyer usually the girl I take by the time feels out whether she ticks all the boxes she gets two if she is any good might get a 3rd before I leave. The non-Food day is slow, especially these covid days.

    Didn't get into prices since I always pay the 1000 baht if they tick all the boxes I just 1200 which is what happened on Thursday.

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