Pattaya Reports

[Steve 9696]

FL Hawk dude. I totally get it. I do it too. You get so fixated on a girl you ignore all the signs and all the negatives. But Man you need to move on!

My friend had the best advice when Thifany got engaged. He said to just get out there and start working again. That there is a BETTER Thifany around the corner. I thought he was full of shit. But he's done this a lot and he is right. There are literally billions of girls. Just keep working it and you'll hit gold.

And sure enough. It was literally only two months later I scored my BA hottie and she is sooooo much better. Yet some day she'll be taken and I will lament it deeply. But I will then work for the next one. The even better one.

I know when you are intertwined in emotions with to a girl it is really hard to move on. But dude you need to move on. You will find a better Secret2 as soon as you do!

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Friday, Day 5, August 23.

I spent until after 2 PM working on my reports and actually got 2 posted today! I then decided to head down to near Soi 13/3 to the High Five tailor shop, recommend by Mr. E, to see about a suit being made. If Mr. E recommends a place you know it is good. For $205 they will make a custom tailored basic suit, pants and a silk shirt. You can get higher priced options, but this seemed to be a solid suit and since I will likely wear it only a couple of times for the rest of my life, I don't need any higher quality. He can have one made in a day, but to get the most out of custom tailoring he needs a couple of days to get a couple of fittings in.

Next I went to 13/1 to that massage place, Supinda, or whatever, with Aon, who I guess I mistakenly identified as Aom in past reports. She was there this time, sitting outside, and I almost didn't recognize her. She has gained a little more weight than I remember and her face was not quite up her Thai Friendly image, but it was her and the classic beauty of her face could still be seen. I went in for simple a massage. She sort of remembered me and during the massage she tried to sell me the "special", and she gave a free sample, but for the price I can get all of that on Soi 6 plus boom boom and, usually, BJ. She upgraded the offer to BJ, and it was tempting, and she had done a good job before, but again, you can get that and boom boom on Soi 6 from a young naked lass for less. I enjoyed the massage and the freebie HJ, which showed my Apcalis was working.

Next I headed up to Soi 6, not totally sure of what I would do. But while waiting for Secret to text me and say she was ready to see me, I shifted mental compartments to, I don't know, Jerk Mode or maybe just Single Man in Pattaya Mode, and thought I would try to find a more full figured gal with plenty of boobs for a changed. I love petite girls but miss some feeling some real boobs on occasion. I found Pat at the Hero Bar. She was not quite ideal but she had the boobs and was pleasant enough. Her English was ok so I went in then ended upstairs with her. 300 BF and 1000 for her. She was not so great in bed. No BJ and she was fairly inactive. Boobs were large and real and felt good but we really had no chemistry and I was doomed to failure. Not only do I have to worry about a condom, but I had released some 14 hours earlier for the second time in two days, and for me to release every day BB is difficult, so forget a third time with now with a condom! I gave up as she started to go dry (yes, I forgot to bring lube, but at this point I would not have bothered to get it out had I brought it). But as there was no BJ and due to a lackluster attitude, no tip for Pat. Her face was maybe a 6, body a 6 and performance a 5. I suppose she satisfied by desire for big, real boobs for the trip, but back to more petite or regular sized women. .

Next I went down to Ruby Bar, thinking I might pick up with Sai or even repeat with Bea. Bea always seems to be front and center, and she ushered me in with no pressure. She is really a sweet lady once you get to know her. I was looking for Sai and I sort of forgot what she looked like and I mistakenly waved over the wrong girl! It just happeded to be Noi who I had been with before. She remembered me, I had totally forgotten. My notes confirmed her last April but I have no notes about her looks. Today, she is overweight and face looks all pimply or something. She is not one to repeat, though she is a nice lady. Due to my mistake in calling her over I offered both her and Bea a drink but they didn't hear me I guess. I finally identified Sai but she proceeded to ignore me! I continued to sit there, on the front row by the steps, with some of the girls sitting on the lower railing in front of me. Sai, who was outside in the street, came up the steps but didn't look at me so I reached out to touch her to get her attention but she kept going. I was getting the brush off! What the beep?

I continued to sit there and ended up giving the girl setting on the lower rail a neck massage. She leaned back between my legs, and I continued the massage. She asked which one which one of us was on vacation! The girl was pretty but I had no sexual interest in her, but I brought some happiness into her life. I had tried to get Sai's attention again, but what did I do to upset her?? She had told me to come back to her today! I finally decided to leave and as she was still in the street I went to her, but she didn't want to talk. I asked what was wrong and she said because of me she could not boom boom as I made her V sore. Wow. I said sorry but gently reminded her that I had expressed concern that she was hurting but she had to continue one and that it was I who finally said no more sex as KNEW she was hurting as she was do dry and I didn't have enough spit. That seemed to calm her down and I think she appreciated me talking to her and I think I left with her willing to see me again. Regardless, though, to be rude like that with me was not cool. She knew about KY and because she didn't have any my session was cut short. Sorry for her, but sorry for me, too. But, she is also a newbie, so I can cut her some slack.

But while sitting at the bar prior to leaving, I saw a hot blonde girl out in front at the Baku Bar. She was quite striking and I saw her hit on an ugy dude so I thought maybe I had a chance with her. So I headed that way and she indeed came over and I let her drag me inside. Her English was ok and her name was Kaem. She was quite pretty but I wondered about her attitude, given other hot girls I have had who were basic starfishes. But she seemed ok, not at all stuck up, and quite pretty indeed, certainly in the top couple of percent on Soi 6. I felt no need to prolong things too much and after 10 minutes I asked to BF her and she was happy and up we went. I wondered if she would look as hot naked as she did in her outfit I. Well, she kind of hid herself as we undressed and went off to shower alone. Sigh. In bed she revealed that she was obviously a mother with some sagging boobs, and her skin was a bit loose for being 24, but still not too bad to look at. Nice figure and legs and a pretty, shaved V. To my surprise, she loved deep kissing and there was no problem with FIV. Actually, she had recently some hot Thai food and her literally hot lips heated mine up a bit. The V, while not exactly tight like Sai, was good enough. There was lots of foreplay so in that regards it was near GFE, but lacking actual passion I think. Again, no BJ, and I didn't even inquire about it with those hot lips! I broke out an expensive Okomoto for her and I thought (like almost always) I had a shot of coming with her, but it was not to be. Again, I had an O the day before and day before that, so it was not going to happen, even though my body was capable. We did missionary, and a long bit of doggie, then missionary and when I was ready to give up, switched to cowgirl. But she started to dry so it was over for me. When I finally pulled out and rolled over, she was content to lie there and rest for a good 10 minutes, us close together. I gave her a 100 baht tip as she tried and was semi-GFE. I could see me with her again if I get no more sexual satisfaction for a few days. So, face a solid 8 and maybe a low 9, body a good 9 overall, relative to what is available on 6, and performance a solid 8, hindered by a lack of actual passion even though she was close to being a GFE. I left happy if frustrated.

And that brings up Secret. She did not contact me all day. I exited via Soi 6/1 leaving her to work the job she hates and not calling on me to take her away. But if she actually regards me as work, then it makes sense. But things remain not looking very good and I don't know why.

I came back to my hotel and rested and wrote a bit, then decided to head back to Soi 6. I entered from the west side and went to her bar and she was in the back, just getting up from being with 2 guys to get them drinks. The girls out front, seeing me, said I should go in and sit down. I went in but went over to Secret who was then at the bar helping to prepare the drinks. Really, I forgot what was said. It was a little awkward, but I am sure I said Hello, and she probably asked me if I wanted my soda and I said no, then I probably said bye as I didn't want to bother her as she was working. I did not want to stay and watch. Too awkward for both of us. I needed to let her do her job. As I left the entrance, one of girls asked if I was staying and I said no, she was busy. I got an awkward laugh. I presume these girls may know some of the truth. I walked eastward not sure if I would go into a bar or what, but ended up leaving on 6/1 and went to McDs for a late dinner. After 45 minutes of so I went back and I did not see her, but the ladies told me she was in the toilet and to go on in. I somewhat feigned a sad face and said Secret didn't like me. One of the girls quickly spoke up and said "No, she likes you very much!" in a way that was believable. IDK. I have never received any looks from any of them that I was old fool, but more like I was a good man and they were happy for us. IDK.

She came out and I went back to sit with her. It was still awkward and our language difficulty really manifested itself. She sat close and held my hand, but I watched another girl in there to the same with a dude she just met and looked to be having fun. Secret is at least being somewhat honest and not going overboard with emotion for me. But I am seeing things slipping away and not sure if I should encourage it or try to hold on for a while longer. I try to play the romantic and I get up, offer her my hand to get her to stand, and I walk over to the exact spot where we first met. She did seem warmed by that, asking "You really remember?

It was a bit past midnight and we weren't making any more progress and my mind was frozen. I decided I wanted to get out of there and I got up, and told her I was leaving as I paid the bill. I asked what she was going to do, and she said go back to her hotel or apartment or whatever it is. I said she could come with me, and she asked if I was going to BF her. These next few works will seal my fate somehow. But I don't like for her to use that term with me, and I said whatever she wanted to do I would make it happen. She could come with me right then, she could stay and work and then do whatever (go to her place or, who knows, go on a BF, even though the bar was empty of other men), or come to me after the bar closed. She said I had to pay a BF. I said yes, but I didn't want her to call it that as I was not buying her. She seemed to fixated on that, but I repeated the options of go with me now, come to me later, or go home. And, don't worry about the BF. Seems simple to me, but that would prove to be a fatal error on my part.

I walked back to my hotel and, after thinking some, felt that I would give her another chance in case she had forgotten my room number. I sent her the number "in case you change your mind. " And I expressed my sadness about how things were going. I sent her a crying emogi and, to my surprise, she sent me a sad emogi back. I wrote back "Why you sad? I am her for you. Whatever you want. " To clarify, I then said "That means: come by if you want" and adding "I am too tired for sex so don't worry about that. " She read them all before work ended, but no more responses.

So I spent the night alone, but I left with a bad vibe when what I said was intended to let her know I wanted her and I would take care of her for whatever she wanted to do.

I could say more here but I will wait until the next report.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I hope you meant to say "duds" instead of "dudes" FL Hawk. If not, then you're probably on Soi 6/1 instead of Soi 6. Just sayin.

Apparently you missed the part where he said her vagina was almost too tight?

[David 2]

Trip Report, Thursday, Day 4, August 22.

I was having some doubts about Sai as I noticed she had a tad bit of fat around her tummy, but she was otherwise pleasant and these newbies can sometimes be awesome, while at other times dudes. Oh, well, why not take a chance?

I hope you meant to say "duds" instead of "dudes" FL Hawk. If not, then you're probably on Soi 6/1 instead of Soi 6. Just sayin.

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Thursday, Day 4, August 22.

Note: I realized my previous report was titled as being on Tuesday. It should have read Wednesday.

I ate breakfast alone after Secret left. She didn't want to eat with me. For whatever reason she had to hurry back to the hotel room. She tried to explain to me why but I didn't understand. I could have grabbed the iphone for a translation, but did the reasons really matter? I could see her phone appeared to be working well but, again, for the whole day I never got a message from her.

I worked on my reports and finally headed to Soi 6 around 3 PM. Maybe it was later, as the sun was right in my eyes walking down the street. I had thoughts of getting TF or Tinder girl over, but Soi 6 has a strong pull on me. I guess I was on a mission, as I pretty much seemed to head right to Ruby Bar. Bea was busy but a cute named Sai captured me and, with some hesitation on my part, I went inside. She was very petite, which I like. I order my drink and while waiting Bea was free and I waved to her. She came over and I said something and she thought I meant I was hot, so she went to get a cold cloth. She new I chose someone else but she was still cheerful so I offered her a drink to. That was good as she was able to interpret a bit with Sai. Sai was a newby to Pattaya, being there just one week apparently. This is where I learned Bea was 37 with two teenagers, which stunned me, and that Sai was 24 with two toddlers. I was having some doubts about Sai as I noticed she had a tad bit of fat around her tummy, but she was otherwise pleasant and these newbies can sometimes be awesome, while at other times dudes. Oh, well, why not take a chance?

She was happy to be bar fined so up we go, to the same room I was in with Bea. But I have to shower myself. Hmmm. Not starting off so good. Then naked in bed, she keeps a towel on, and immediately starts a BJ. Sigh. This is not starting off so good. But, her BJ is interesting. She starts off slow and with just the tip, and she teases a little, and eventually she takes in the whole thing. Her petite hands makes me look massive so in due course she has me at full staff. She quickly puts on the my secret weapon condom my Okamo Zero One Large. No, I am not a large guy, but I had tried their regular and found it too tight and difficult to unroll. Their large fits me well. So time to finally enter this lady.

She was quite tight. How, with two kids? But she was hard to get in and she appeared to be in pain. Once inside, it felt good, but if I pull out a little to far it was light the tightness would pull me out of her. That action happened a number of times. But that tightness felt amazing, but seeing her in apparent pain was unsettling. I asked her if she hurt but she didn't seem to understand. She was not exactly super wet and I tried to use saliva, and I was cursing myself for not bringing a small bottle of lube. I brought some with me to Thailand, but failed to take it with me today. We managed a few positions but the spit was losing effectiveness and she thought she tried to put up with it, it was too much and we had to stop. We said to come back tomorrow and she would have KY. So, yeah, I have to pay another 1000? I don't paying 1000 and while I know I can ask them to drop the price, I don't bother. But, if there is a next time, I think I will ask for lower. I got jipped! Why a BG doesn't carry KY with her, beats me. But certainly many do not, hence the reason I bring my own. Except today.

I think that I won't bother to see her again, as Bea was much more fun, but as I think about it I may indeed see her again just to experience that tight V. When there was wetness she actually felt pretty good. After the session I did talk to Bea and said the session wasn't that great so maybe she will talk to Said, IDK. But, we will see.

So I left and I think I had it in my mind to go to Secret. But I had to get past Jin.

Actually, yesterday when I left Bea, I say Jin but she was looking away at the time and didn't see me. But this time, she was out front and saw me and, yeah, I could ignore her, but she is alike a friend now so I went over. After a bit she asked me where I had been yesterday. I was honest and said I was out there and didn't see her. She said she knew I was there and I bar fined a girl. I asked what I did after that, a little perturbed she was invading my privacy. She was upset but she kept most of it to herself and asked if I was going to BF her. I ignored the question and she didn't raise it again. After some awkward minutes I said I needed to leave. I paid for the drinks and gave her a tip, which I said to use to feed the cats. We both love cats and she takes care of strays at home, so I have before given her money for that. She was happy enough to hug me, and I left to go to Secret.

The street was still not busy and Secret was alone and very happy to see me. I am seeing she seems different in the bar that alone, and that does not bode well. I mentioned about the night before and her not kissing me and she either doesn't quite understand or she whatever, but she brushes it aside. Here and now she is overjoyed. My cynical part is saying, of course, she is at work and now she knows she can make some money. Sigh. But after a while I am getting hungry and ask if she is and she says she is so I LT her. We eventually go to Terminal 21 and she seems to enjoy just walking around and is not embarrassed to hold my hand. She is also wearing more appropriate clothing. She is not interested in expensive food and is happy with KFC. At first she was not going to each much, but she orders these egg tart things which are really pretty good and we end up stuffing ourselves. Then we go back to WS and Stones House again. Some of band members there have gotten to recognize us now and they were happy to see us. I was getting super tired by 11:30 and if I closed my eyes I would dose and wake up immediately as I started falling. She was getting tired too, probably after being home and that long trip on a bus back at night, so by 12:30 we headed to the hotel. I think our session went better. We had a brief talk that I will keep private (though our language barrier makes is difficult and we never really know if the other understands), but I think she had a better big O. It all felt amazing for me. But it was more of the same after the sex ended.

Then this morning she had to get up early to go to her apartment to do the laundry. Once again, she is leaving me. I point out asked her if she had a BF. Her eyes opened up in shocked and she said no. I think I believe her. But I still have not sat her down with the translator apps and tried to figure things out. Maybe I am scared to end this, to end the bareback sex, to lose the possibilities, just yet. I still have over a week here and not yet ready to end this thing.

So, this day was not great, but not bad, and the uncertainties continue. I am acting like it is ending, by seeing other girls, so if I have no faith, how can she? I am basically cheating on her from 100 or 200 yards away! In her own backyard! But if she had not changed in behavior 5 weeks ago, she and I would be preparing for our trip to Phuket. Well, tomorrow is another day. At it is about time to head out. I do what to hit up a tailor, one recommended by Mr. E. I will do that tomorrow, then maybe seen Aon while I am down there, then see what happens of Soi 6!

[FL Hawk]

Hilarious. I met the same chick on WeChat or Tinder last year. I went up there to see her in person and that was about it. My impression is that she is just on the site to get you to come up to the shop for a massage.

Well, if you don't go for the HJ "special" she will do a BJ, but that is it. But I swear she looked hotter last April. She does a decent job, but as I said, her clothes stay on. A year or two earlier a girl there would do boom boom, but I have found you get better value on Soi 6. Go there for a massage, but control yourself as she give you a free sample, and go to Soi 6 for a real happy ending.

[Steve 9696]

FL Hawk buddy keep it coming. I love to read the real life soap opera. It is soooo much easier to be like Mr E and others and just treat it as a business transaction. Soooo much easier. But I am like you and like treading the girlfriend line even tho it leads to pain. The high is so worth it IMO.

Was it totally painful to see my Thifany cavorting with her new husband on Instagram? Absolutely. Happy for her. But it totally sucks too! So did I go back to transactional only?

Nope. Picked up a new SB type "girlfriend" in Buenos Aires who is better and more real than Thifany the unicorn if that is possible. And it's totally awesome. I know factually some dude with more coin will come along and she will ghost me. But in the moment it's magical and can't be replicated with transactions. (Not that I've quit that!

So keep riding the thin girlfriend-line on that slippery slope man! Rock on FL Hawk!

[Steve 9696]

They do not need your advice. They need money. Unless your advice is going to pay off dad's truck, pay the mafia loan they owe, get them some land, and put a house on it. I guess this has to be reshown every so often.

Yep. Pretty much spot on!

[Mr Enternational]

possibly see Aon at Supivida (spelling) massage on Soi 13/1.

Hilarious. I met the same chick on WeChat or Tinder last year. I went up there to see her in person and that was about it. My impression is that she is just on the site to get you to come up to the shop for a massage.

[Mr Enternational]

There is definitely something to that. Like they don't feel like they deserve it and almost seek out to make sure it doesn't get serious. Another thing I've noticed is I tend to want to help them and end providing what I think is helpful advice. They usually don't want it. I think a lot of these girls are fiercely independent and don't need daddy telling them what to do. They had that already!

They do not need your advice. They need money. Unless your advice is going to pay off dad's truck, pay the mafia loan they owe, get them some land, and put a house on it. I guess this has to be reshown every so often.

[Steve 9696]

In my experience, the girls become cold when you keep going back to them. It's almost like they don't want you to repeat with them.

There is definitely something to that. Like they don't feel like they deserve it and almost seek out to make sure it doesn't get serious. Another thing I've noticed is I tend to want to help them and end providing what I think is helpful advice. They usually don't want it. I think a lot of these girls are fiercely independent and don't need daddy telling them what to do. They had that already!

[Falcon 95]

Trip Report, Tuesday, Day 3, August 21.

So, this second day in Pattaya ends mixed. I am with Secret and I just had one of the best lovemaking sessions of my life. But her lack of emotion, other than when she first sees me, is telling. I need to clear this up. Is she holding back out of fear (logical) or has her feelings actually died down. Her reaction in the bar was not fake and it was real. So, I don't know. I should not be trying to over analyze this. But as I have said, I already know it is ending. But exactly HOW will it end?.

In my experience, the girls become cold when you keep going back to them. It's almost like they don't want you to repeat with them.

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Tuesday, Day 3, August 21.

Day 1 was a very long day with the travel but I think I actually held up quite well. Jin came over as I mentioned at about 10:30. We ate breakfast then she crashed while I went out and got a SIM card then tried to correct issues with my phone. I got a new phone and I am using the old phone for my travel phone, I had some problems with Viper and Line as a result. I unwisely decided to go to McD's to sip a Coke while I worked the issues and, well if I am here, since I didn't stuff myself for breakfast at the hotel, I will stuff myself now with a cheeseburger and fries. Oh well, it lasted me for the rest of day.

While I was out I decided to contact Secret again. To my surprise she texted me back fairly quickly. I learned she had been home and was just now returning to Pattaya and would bet here at the start of business. So, she was not with a random dude last night and she just completing a 10 hour bus ride. Well, ok, now what do I do? Rather than discuss the possibilities I will simply tell you. Once Jin left at 2:30 I headed to Soi 6, still no really sure what I was going to do. I considered going back to Ruby to partake of one of the other lovey ladies I had seen the day before when I was with the delightful Bea. I did make it to Ruby, and Bea was right there and she was tempting, but I had to accept that my heart wanted Secret at that point. I mean, the only reason I am here in Pattaya in August was to see her. That was the original intent of this trip. So I spoke to Bea and said I liked her and would likely come back to her, but I had to keep going. She understood and then I beelined to Secret's bar, not sure if I might find her with a dude or how she would react to seeing me. I went inside and didn't see her at first, but I hear a cry and there she is, in the back, and she is totally surprised and she comes out to give me a very firm hug. She seem super happy, and hugs me a few more times, and the other girls are happy and she shows me off to her new friend in the bar. And all seems right with the world for a little bit, seeing her pure happiness and repeated hugs. Even the bar manager gives me a big thumbs up.

But our language problem shows up quickly, but I guess we overlook them and before long I ask if she wants to get out of there and she says yes. She goes to get her stuff and I am little taken aback that she comes back wearing her bar's shirt and shorts. I am not keen on my girl advertising the bar where she works when she is out with me, but oh well. Maybe I will offer to buy her some more appropriate clothes, but yet I don't want her to think I am ashamed of her, either. Sigh. We head to my hotel and she says she is tried from the very long bus trip, and I am still jet lagged, so we nap for a few hours. When we wake we head to WS and listen to music before coming back. She is being somewhat affectionate but once in bed, she starts to chill. This is repeating a pattern from last time. What the heck? She simply lies there, playing with my Johnson, but not even moving her fact to kiss me. I am about ready to just roll over and sleep, but I have been stupid before when a lady is not showing affection and I simply calling it off, as I don't wish to have sex with a woman who is not showing any desire even if I paid for it. Yes, possibly stupid for me, but I can sleep at night too. But, this was different with her as we have expressed our "love", and this might be my only chance of bare back sex as we could break up at any time, and, thus, this could possibly be my only chance for some relief for this whole trip! So I decided to romance her best I could. I did tell her there was more to me than just my dick and I started to try to get her more excited. (At this point her V was still dry.) I was a little bit aggressive with the kissing, but I kept it gentle and dry (no wet tongues), and I tried to be like two lovers who had not seen each other in 3 months and was ready for some passion and that she was simply exhausted but still ready to be made love to. It worked. After I did oral on her she got soaking wet, but I delayed intercourse until I literally thought I might explode. It was pure heaven when I did enter her, and I alternated between giving her oral and giving her my Johnson. She started moaning and I believe she came. I continued with the changing tactics, then got her into doggie where I finally let lose. Awesome. There was certainly tons of affection from me, but she has never really been aggressive with me. (No idea how she is like with the other random dudes.).

So while she did as I wanted, and she was enjoying the physical pleasures, I still didn't feel the love. And after the shower, she kept her distance from me, just like our last night we were together that I found so confusing. After the sun came up she was a bit fitful in her sleep, but she did come close to me and wrapped me her arms around me. At 10:30 she got up, saying she had to go to her hotel. Yeah, the day before she told me she couldn't sleep at the bar (not sure if that meant the sleeping conditions at the bar made it so she slept poorly – which is what Jin had hold me or if she was not allowed to sleep there). Anyway, she had a cheap hotel room and she needed to go there. Possibly she kept her stuff there and, not expecting to be BF's that first day, she had not brought her normal street wear to work that day. Or, and the thought hit me, she may have a boyfriend there. I mean, to me it seemed like her feelings for me cooled very quickly, like she got a boy friend but, like most BGs, they won't admit they have one. But I could be wrong on that. I can understand her getting a cheap room (and she maintains an apartment in the city where she used to work before becoming a BG – or it belongs to a BF! So she may indeed have a cheap room simply for sleep in Pattaya.

But without a lot of affection she leaves. I ask if she wants to see me again and she appears to ignore me, who knows. I get a kiss and she leaves. I went into the bathroom and see she left her toothbrush kit. I texted her to see if that means she wants to come back and she says yes. Sigh. I tell her I will see her later. I can probably extend this so-called relationship a little while longer. I would like to sit down with her and try to figure out what happened. As I said, we HAVE to breakup. A breakup is inevitable. Maybe it has already happened in her eyes but I am that good friend. Maybe I crossing from her thinking I am her lover to a client finally. I don't know.

So, this second day in Pattaya ends mixed. I am with Secret and I just had one of the best lovemaking sessions of my life. But her lack of emotion, other than when she first sees me, is telling. I need to clear this up. Is she holding back out of fear (logical) or has her feelings actually died down. Her reaction in the bar was not fake and it was real. So, I don't know. I should not be trying to over analyze this. But as I have said, I already know it is ending. But exactly HOW will it end?

I want to add that editing these reports takes a very long time, and sometimes I try to rush things so I can get out there. So if I get my tenses mixed up for leave out some words or use the wrong words, please forgive.

[FL Hawk]

Trip Report, Tuesday, Day 1-2.

Left LAX in wee hours of late Sunday night (actually Monday morning, being the wee hours), EVA Airlines bound for BKK via TPE. I cashed in some miles to get upgraded to business class into TPE, then premium economy on into BKK. As I typical for EVA, the flight went well.

I am actually writing the first entry of the first draft of this sitting in the EVA lounge in TPE. I will arrive in BKK a bit after 11 AM Tuesday. I read the Thai Visa forums which seems to have a lot of bloviating expats who can't find anything to like about Thailand but continue to stay there. Two typical comments or complaints I seem to notice the most is that is that the Chinese don't go into the WS bars in Pattaya (huh? And the immigration lines at BKK are hours long. I hope I prove them wrong. After arriving at BKK I will be met by one of Nam's limo drivers.

I have been checking out some ladies on Thai Friendly, and I found the massage girl I had the hots for on Soi 13/1 last time. She, Aon, is a classic beauty and I was pleased to see her images on TF. I made contract with her and her only question was did she give me a happy ending or just a massage. Haha. Well, no happy ending for me as I can't end from a HJ nor BJ, which is all she had offered me, but I may stop by after I arrive for, if nothing more, a basic massage. For more than a basic massage from her I want to have FS, but as is, she stays fully dressed and she kneels between your legs on the bed so you can't really get in much touching. She gives a nice massage so I think I will go see her and, now that I know she advertises on TF, perhaps she would be willing to give more outside of work now. That is what I would want to inquire about.

There is still Secret to contend with. She became a little more talkative before I left. She had briefly mentioned a while back she problems with her phone, and she brought them up again, saying she didn't want to get it fixed yet fearing she would lose my Line ID. I sent her my email, but have not heard much more. She is back in the silent mode, which is unlike how a typical BG would be reacting when her foolish client is just days away from coming to see her. So, I don't know what I am going to do. The strong feelings we had seem to be nearly dead. I wonder if she has a boyfriend and that is why our communications seemed to die down so quickly. I don't know, but were I to predict the future, things will likely come to an end before I leave Pattaya, and that will be a good thing overall. We are not right for each other. It can't work. A brief love affair is fine, and I guess I hope we have a couple more good days before it comes to a gentle end. But I have that nagging feeling she has a BF and the end will come a little harder. Well, if she has a boyfriend I can still be her client, but then she would be just another BF.

Well, why waste time thinking about the unknown when in a few more hours I will begin the search for truth! Off to catch my flight to BKK!

Taipei had problems getting planes out for some reason. There is some construction going on, but it delayed our departure about an hour and I don't know why. I may have my directions mixed up, but we were parked on the north side and were delayed 20 minutes pulling back. Then we were sent around to the south side and it took another 20 minutes to get almost to the end for takeoff. Departures and landings on that runway were very slow but we were at the point when there was just one plane ahead of us and then they sent us back the north side! Yet another 20 minute delay. The pilots, other than the first push back delay, never did explain any of this to us which would have been nice.

Anyway, the flight to BKK went smoothly. I had read online on Thaivisa.com that the immigration wait times at BKK were horrendous. Posters there were saying the airports had hours of immigration lines while the streets of Phuket and Pattaya were empty. What is the truth? For me, the immigration line was about the shortest ever. When I got to the line I was number 7. I lucked out and my line had two officers, so I practically whizzed through and my bag was waiting for me. So, from the time I stepped off the plane to the time I walked out of immigration minus the walking time was not even 10 minutes. Not to say the airport was not busy, but for me, I had no problems at BKK at all.

Got Nam's limo to Pattaya. When I landed and got inside I emailed her to let her know I was late. I hate having drivers wait, but they had my flight information and if they looked they could see the flight was late, but I wanted to let them know. The driver was waiting for me. She was young and cute and was quite professional and took maybe 1:15 to get me to my hotel. The Pattaya traffic was lighter than last time (April / May), but hardly sparse.

Checked in at the Flipper House was efficient. I actually have two bookings. The first is through next Saturday and the second is for the last 5 or 6 days of my trip. I like to split up the booking as it is better to make reservations well in advance, but sometimes it can be difficult to change the days (like add a day or subtract a day) and you have to get the approval of the hotel to do so. In this case, I wanted to be able to take those last few days to possibly leave Pattaya before going home. In this case, I have 7 days advance free cancellation. So, if things go well with Secret I could take her to Phuket or, if they didn't go well, I could stay in town or possibly go meet my so-called Thai GF. I have until Friday to cancel without a fee. But actually, the staff saw that I had two bookings but I forgot to book Saturday night. If I wanted to do that, the room was available (their biggest suite) and I could have it at the same rate. I told them I was considering cancelling, but would let them know if I wanted it.

Anyway, I am checked in through next Saturday. After some light unpacking I decided to do some walking to try to burn up some calories from all the airplane food, and possibly see Aon at Supivida (spelling) massage on Soi 13/1. I walked down there but she was busy, so walked around 13/1 and 13/2, passed back by to see Aon but she apparently was still busy.

I walked all the way to Soi 6, but how would it go? That is where Secret is working and though she should know I will be there by the end of the week, I have never told her exactly. She has never asked me, either. I was still planning to avoid seeing her for a few days. We had texted a little more but 3 days have now gone by without me hearing anything. Pure logic shows that whatever relationship we once had was now pretty much gone, which while painful it is the predictable outcome that has to be. I have known this all along and that this was the price to be paid for letting myself get emotional with a much younger woman. (I do not call her a bar girl as she is not acting to me like she is a bar girl, and she situation would not be too much different if I had fallen for a non-working girl, I. E. A basic vacation love affair.).

Anyway, I walked all the way and entered the street maybe around 4:30 PM. There were plenty of ladies and I could tell the number of males was down. I could also tell times were low as I got cat-called far more than last time. When the youngins are cat-calling the old dudes, times are slow in Pattaya! I got a accosted by a couple but I let myself get stopped by Bea at Ruby. She was looking good and I remembered she was surprisingly good last time, so I thought why not, I will let her be my first. She comes across as a bit of a nerd, as she wears glasses, but either because she knew me from before or she was hungrier in the low season, she was a little more aggressive and gave me some light kisses. I didn't see any need to prolong things, so after not too long I just blurted out that I wanted to take her upstairs. She seemed surprised that she didn't have to work too hard but happy to take me up. I paid the fine (300 I think, but I really don't remember) and up we went. The room was nice enough with its own shower and toilet. We each undressed and she gave me a reasonable shower and we proceeded to bed. She was quite happy to start out with some foreplay that soon got intense. Very intense. Near GFE in fact. She was happy to let me play and was not at all in a hurry. I remembered that last time she was surprising in her actions, and she surpassed that today. I do think that as a lady gets to know you she will open up if she likes you, and she is more likely to come to like you if you are respectful of her. They don't like to be grabbed or looked down upon. But yeah, our session was great. Pretty close to a 10 with the passion she showed.

Of course, I couldn't release, but she tried. And as usual, it is all totally my fault. I wonder if by trying to delay my release I instead prevent it. I mean, I seem to go a little but numb after a few minutes. I start off feeling pretty good and thinking I will be able to release, but before I know it I just lose the feelings. I can rest a bit and restart and things will feel great, but that point of release eludes me and I collapse into a quivering heap of frustration.

She has a nice face, maybe an 8, a good tight body (maybe an 8 or a little higher, with the only negatives are she is has a bit of a boyish figure) but her butt is very nice to touch, with boobs that have lost some firmness, but are still soft and hot sagging, and close to a nice handful. Nice nipples. Near perfect skin – no tats or unsightly molds or things. Nothing about her is unappealing. Oh, and her V is tight, shaven and very pretty. I did not detect any mommy stretches. (Well, later I found out she had two kids and she was 37. It blew me away.) As she tried and was otherwise practically a full GFE due to the touching and kissing and passion, I tipped her 200 baht. We concluded with a shower and hugs goodbye.

I continued down the street and was about ready to divert to Soi 6/1 but Jin at Horny bar saw me so I went to see her. Jin and I spent a few days together last November, but after Secret, she fell out of favor. She is another honest, caring BG, older, but level-headed and a sweet woman if you are nice to her. I soured on her a little due to her drinking last time, plus Secret stole my heart, and I now immediately saw she had put on a few pounds. She is still attractive for her age, with near perfect skin and still with a nice body, but I don't know that I will ever BF her again. But I consider her a friend. We talked a little, but no BF with her. She mentioned the electricity to Soi 6 was going to be cut off from about 9 AM to 3 PM the next day (Wednesday), and she asked if she could stay at my hotel during that time. I said OK. She will probably nap during that time. Nothing sexual was implied. But as I stepped away from the bar, it struck me that if I now went to see Secret (ok, I said I wasn't going to see her, but I was thinking about it.) I would be unable to long time her. But, she has not that far away. The girl I claimed to have feelings of love for was less than 100 yards away! And I walked away. I could text Jin not to come. I could see Secret and likely have that wonderful release with her. Unless she would now insist on a condom because. She had a BF. Sigh.

Let me interject that a big tour group of Chinese tourists came walking down the street before I left Jin. A whole bus load of men and women. I don't like seeing that. Pattatya built up a delicate balance with the bars, the women and the mongerors. This is messing it all up potentially. It is happening in Phuket. Good or bad overall for the people of Thailand? I don't know.

But as I was walking down Soi 6/1 fighting off the LBs, the urge to see Secret got me to venture over a cross street to take a peek at her bar. I did not see her. She was either in the back or was out with some random dude. Sigh. The price we pay for falling for a bar girl.

It was quite dark by this time. I walked back down to Soi 7 for taco Tuesday night, then back to the hotel to rest a little before heading to WS. I am jet lagged a bit but I decided I did not want to nap. When I nap in the evening of the first day it always screws my body up. I think it best to fight off the urge to sleep and just get out there, walk around and get the adrenalin to power your way through. And that is what I did. And I was curious as to how busy WS would be, given the claims Thailand was losing tourists.

I found actually found WS to be quite busy. No, not super crowded, but there were plenty of people. I went into a few bars and the Chinse were still there chain smoking and while none were brimming full and seats could be had at all, they were hardly bare. Outside, there were still plenty of people, though with perhaps more Indians now.

I ended up at Red Car and ended up with Lee, a late 30's, or probably an early 40's lady looking to get picked up. She was nothing special but was ok for her age, plus I was jet lagged and was actually leaving when she caught my eye, so it was either her or no one. I took her home as she offered 1000 baht for short time. She was ok but I figured no way would I come with her so I used one of my less favored Aoni condoms. I have had breakage problems with them and, sure enough, it broke as soon as I entered her. I actually think she put it on much too tight. I tried another one, putting it on myself and, with some added lube, it worked fine. And heck, it actually felt pretty good and, yeah, maybe I would be able to come with her and.yeah, right. I fail, she wondered why, so then I explained it, she sympathizes but explains why she can't, I agree and say I wasn't asking for BB, blab la bla. Same of stuff, just answering question as to why I couldn't come and what could she do to help me. And no, a BJ now won't help and no a HJ won't do it, etc.

She left and I managed to sleep without too much trouble.

So, this first day has been a long day but I manage to have two ladies. I have no idea what might happen with Secret but things are not looking well, but that is ok.

[Bishop80]

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