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  1. #39609
    For reference 2,000 long time is considered Cheap Carlos.

    1,500 is avg price of Soi6. Add 500 for 15 more hours.

    BTW. Strolling thru that Soi. I saw maybe the ugliest body ever. Hahaha.

    Exactly like a Dark Skin Pillsbury Dough Bargirl. Have at it you 1,000 bahters. To be fair I think she go for a lot less. Never seen a Korean with that type of Girl.

  2. #39608
    Quote Originally Posted by HorseTrader  [View Original Post]
    I agree with your point, but will take it one step further and say that the weekend millionaires are good for the hobby. Thousands of girls flock to Pattaya in hopes of finding some big spenders. They don't often succeed, but they remain in town to work at standard prices and give us many choices.
    During the peak of High Season, there are always customers who throw money at the ladies. Sometimes literally.

    And yes, the ladies will tell their friends back in Isaan, and some of them will flock to Pattaya (sometimes just in time for Low Season).

    Overpaying during High Season is a minor sin. The major sin is sending money to the ladies after you go home (so she can go back to Isaan and live with her Thai boyfriend).

    Also, the losers who buy gold for some bargirl.

  3. #39607
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Never once have I known someone that lives somewhere to say that weekend millionaires are ruining it for the locals. It just does not happen that way.
    I agree with your point, but will take it one step further and say that the weekend millionaires are good for the hobby. Thousands of girls flock to Pattaya in hopes of finding some big spenders. They don't often succeed, but they remain in town to work at standard prices and give us many choices.

  4. #39606
    Quote Originally Posted by Tvataham274  [View Original Post]
    This. If I were living in Thailand long term, I'm sure that I would be just as anal as everyone else here about the price of ST going far over 1500.
    This has always been a misunderstanding on ISG. If a local person is saying there is no need to pay so much, then they are not saying it because you are hurting them. They are saying it because you could be shooting yourself and other non-local mongers in the foot. Never once have I known someone that lives somewhere to say that weekend millionaires are ruining it for the locals. It just does not happen that way.

  5. #39605
    Quote Originally Posted by GatorAk  [View Original Post]
    This is how I see it for myself. My flight from LAX to Bangkok takes approximately 24 hours. I am maximizing my time off by combining PTO with the Christmas break. I admit I am one of those who enjoy being a "two-week millionaire. " Personally, I am not going to worry about paying an extra $30 and missing out on someone I like just to keep the rates to the liking of the locals. I'm not concerned about saving my $30 so I can.

    Get a handjob for $150 by an old Vietnamese grandma in California.
    This. If I were living in Thailand long term, I'm sure that I would be just as anal as everyone else here about the price of ST going far over 1500. But a two week millionaire. If flying from the US, you're budget is likely going to be split between airfare and then everything else.

    I haven't mongered stateside since my return trip last year. No way in heck can I justify 100 for a handshake by someone older than me, or thrice that for regular fuckin. Budget for airfare, then everything else is more or less free.

    ----
    Also, where is Rasputin now? I thought that was closed more than a year ago and hadn't reopened

  6. #39604
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Soapies I visited were Honey One, Rasputin, Honey 2 and Grand Honey 3. Best options were at Rasputin (though a little tricky to find even for the Bolt driver). Rasputin had a large selection as did Honey 2..
    Rasputin reopened? I had no idea. Place had been closed since 2019.

    Unless it moved Rasputin isn't hard to find. It's on the block beside Soi 6. If you're walking away from Soi 6 on Beach Road, turn right at the McDonald's towards 2nd Road.

  7. #39603
    Quote Originally Posted by BroComplex  [View Original Post]
    Pattaya has to be the cheapest and easiest place on earth. This is my 3rd trip to pattaya and I learned so much the first two trips that it saved me ton of money this time around.

    First of all if you want to save shit load of money you need to cut the middle man that means no bars no gogos no clubs which is a very difficult thing to do for first timers because the FOMO. They want to go out and have "fun" and experience the nightlife but in my opinion there is absolutely no fun at all at the bars. The bars are there not to entertain you but to extract money from you for little to no return. If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.

    I rented an apartment to be able to have more than one guest a night and subscribed, TF and learned to entertain myself without drinking all day long.

    The total I spent a day in pattaya having 3ST a day including the food, transportation and hotel is 7000 baht or $200 a day. The apartment is 2000 baht and the TF girls 1000-1500 baht most were 1000 but just to be fair I rounded the average to 1300.
    I have a different view. To me the fuck is the icing on the cake and its not worth going to a place like Pattaya to stay in my room and swipe an app. I can do that in Singapore and fuck the same Thai girls here for $100 for 90 min 2 pops. I actually like the attention in bars. I like groping naked women in Windmill. I like two girls all over me in a GC. I like browsing the endless selection on Beach Road. The fuck is just a nice ending to all of that. But as they say. Different strokes.

  8. #39602

    Yes, TF is the way to go in Pattaya

    Quote Originally Posted by BroComplex  [View Original Post]
    Pattaya has to be the cheapest and easiest place on earth. This is my 3rd trip to pattaya and I learned so much the first two trips that it saved me ton of money this time around.

    First of all if you want to save shit load of money you need to cut the middle man that means no bars no gogos no clubs which is a very difficult thing to do for first timers because the FOMO. They want to go out and have "fun" and experience the nightlife but in my opinion there is absolutely no fun at all at the bars. The bars are there not to entertain you but to extract money from you for little to no return. If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.

    I rented an apartment to be able to have more than one guest a night and subscribed, TF and learned to entertain myself without drinking all day long.

    The total I spent a day in pattaya having 3ST a day including the food, transportation and hotel is 7000 baht or $200 a day. The apartment is 2000 baht and the TF girls 1000-1500 baht most were 1000 but just to be fair I rounded the average to 1300.
    I think this is right. I was there for 4 months during the pandemic and I really got to enjoy Thai friendly. Sometimes the girl would be flaky or give bad service, but my success rate was higher with girls from TF than the average bar girl. Most of the girls also weren't getting trained by one guy after another like on soi 6. I was often their only or first appointment of the day. Part of that was the pandemic, but it also feels like the girls on TF are a little less involved in the full-on sex trade thing.

    And it's so much cheaper than paying for a bar fine and all that. Less up-selling and just better demeanor from the girls, IMO. They are more likely to want to be your GF than a bar girl, but that's the only downside that I've encountered.

  9. #39601
    Quote Originally Posted by BroComplex  [View Original Post]
    If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.
    You had some bad experiences you would want to share? Or you heard of some? Except the odd bill padding or unhonest owner or staff, what are you talking about precisely?

  10. #39600
    Pattaya has to be the cheapest and easiest place on earth. This is my 3rd trip to pattaya and I learned so much the first two trips that it saved me ton of money this time around.

    First of all if you want to save shit load of money you need to cut the middle man that means no bars no gogos no clubs which is a very difficult thing to do for first timers because the FOMO. They want to go out and have "fun" and experience the nightlife but in my opinion there is absolutely no fun at all at the bars. The bars are there not to entertain you but to extract money from you for little to no return. If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.

    I rented an apartment to be able to have more than one guest a night and subscribed, TF and learned to entertain myself without drinking all day long.

    The total I spent a day in pattaya having 3ST a day including the food, transportation and hotel is 7000 baht or $200 a day. The apartment is 2000 baht and the TF girls 1000-1500 baht most were 1000 but just to be fair I rounded the average to 1300.

  11. #39599
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I was told they have little respect for Cheap Charlies too.
    Correct.

    Offers of less than 1000 baht for ST are considered comical.

    Unless its a hansum young man at Insomnia at 3 am.

  12. #39598

    Where is Rasputin?

    Thanks for the detailed information.

    I had a question, around 3-4 years ago I had visited Rasputin just off Soi 6, had a great experience too, but when I went last year it was closed.

    Could you please let me know if the one you are talking about is near Soi 6 or are you talking about it being somewhere else now?

    Thanks,

    TheTank.

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Just spent 10 days and nights in Pattaya and these were my findings / experiences. This is mainly Gents Clubs based.

    This was the 4th time for me in Pattaya and finally I found my bearings sufficiently that I didn't need Google maps as much as previously. It can be a bit of a maze. I decided this time that my fitness regime to support my mongering should be that I walked to every venue and I mean every one including the ones in Jomtien from Pattaya! I'm not sure what ached most at the end of the 10 days my dick or my feet. At least only the feet had blisters! It goes without saying that I did not have sessions in every place I went to. Not least as that would have been physically impossible in the 10 days. But I wanted to see a lot of places this time..
    Last edited by Admin3; 09-18-23 at 20:21.

  13. #39597

    My take

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I was told they have little respect for Cheap Charlies too.
    This is how I see it for myself. My flight from LAX to Bangkok takes approximately 24 hours. I am maximizing my time off by combining PTO with the Christmas break. I admit I am one of those who enjoy being a "two-week millionaire. " Personally, I am not going to worry about paying an extra $30 and missing out on someone I like just to keep the rates to the liking of the locals. I'm not concerned about saving my $30 so I can.

    Get a handjob for $150 by an old Vietnamese grandma in California.

  14. #39596

    Cost and Value

    I think there is truth to all sides of the cost and value debate. On one hand I have found definitively that more pay doesn't guarantee better service and more often than not its an inverse correlation. More pay does often get better looks (subjective of course) and almost certainly will save time. I have had amazing experiences back in the day for as little as 500 B and the best Thai girl I ever had was a hot mix Thai Indian who would stay with me 3 days and ID give her $100 at the end of it. Even with inflation that was a cheap and amazing fuck. But last trip to Pattaya I said fuck the cost and barfined young hotties from Walking Street for about 4 to 5 K total and had decent but not spectacular experiences (normal BBFS with a 20 yo does not meet the spectacular bar). So depends what you want. How deep are your pockets, how much time do you have and how picky are you? Its the old Cheap, Fast and Good dilemma. Can always get one, lucky to get two, probably never get all 3.

  15. #39595

    Difference of treatment for Thai nationals

    Here is a video of two Thai girls openly filming the soi being violently shouted at in front of Toy Box, they closed their cam right after out of fear.

    Occurred at minute 7.08.

    Never seen it done so violently when they are filmed by foreigners.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRNxT_ZTFtA

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