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  1. #29948
    Because it is always interesting to have different point of views, I post the comment of a friend who is living since several years in Pattaya. He is married to a Thai girl. I known him over 20 years ago, we worked together in the same company in Paris.

    Of course you can react and confirm or not depending on what you know about the situation on the spot or what you have observed.

    This is about the video I posted earlier " will Pattaya survive? ".

    "I did not know this video, but unfortunately it reflects reality, exodus of working girls, moving bars, endless queue for food distributed mainly by the farangs of" bars "(3 km this am Chayapoum / buakao), etc.

    I think nothing will ever be the same, even though you can find everything you want.

    Since there are no customers, it is easy to find among those who remain.

    The government has also showed the color: the Chinese, Koreans and other countries close to Thailand will be welcome. And the purification of PTY of "dirty farangs" which corrupt the beautiful Thai youth.

    No visibility on my return to France and for you no hope of a return to Thailand this year".

  2. #29947
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    I think what he meant was that just because WG asked for 2500 b doesn't mean she's worth that much. Maybe she gets 1000 b usually and scoring her for 700 B is not a big deal. I see so many WGs who ask for 3000 and then agree to 1000 instantly, and to be fair, based on their looks they don't deserve more.
    ...
    Not so much that she is not "worth" her first quoted price, but that there is no reason to automatically believe she regularly and often gets paid 2,500 baht (for example) just because 2,500 baht is the first number that comes out of her mouth.

    But your second sentence nails it.

    Especially if we are looking at a hooker who is, say, 15-20 years older, 10-15 kilos heavier and 3 babies saggier than girls in the same vicinity who can and do quite regularly get paid 2,500 baht for their time and services.

    I would no more automatically believe such a hooker regularly and often gets paid the same amount of money as the easily observable nearby alternatives than I would believe a tuk-tuk driver with a broad smile reaching out to shake my hand and saying, "Hey! I remember you!"

  3. #29946

    Tomboy loving. Must be bored.

    There is a tomboy on TF under the female listings. The bone structure and facial features are there to be potentially very nice looking to very hot. I'm trying my best here to fuck. Anybody hit this yet? Perhaps Monkeypaw can make her love dick once more.
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  4. #29945
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Am I the only one who can not see how EihTooms comment has anything whatsoever to do with the long-ass post he quoted?
    ...
    I hope so. Otherwise, there is a serious rash of reading and comprehension problems occurring among ISG members.

    It is right there, practically spelled out in the first two sentences of the post I quoted and then the point is somewhat elaborated on in the rest of his post with an auto purchase analogy and so on.

  5. #29944
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Am I the only one who can not see how EihTooms comment has anything whatsoever to do with the long-ass post he quoted?
    I think what he meant was that just because WG asked for 2500 b doesn't mean she's worth that much. Maybe she gets 1000 b usually and scoring her for 700 B is not a big deal. I see so many WGs who ask for 3000 and then agree to 1000 instantly, and to be fair, based on their looks they don't deserve more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Mr. Enternational is wrong about him getting away with paying 1000 for what others pay 3000 not having to do with his charm, or rather, attitude though. I have never met him, but based on his posts I'm sure I've seen people like him other places. They give off this "yeah, I get enough pussy as it is. Girls like to hang with me. I don't care much if you go with me or not, but if you go with me, free or not, you better believe I'll fuck you, and you'll have a good enough time too. " vibe.

    Girls everywhere in the world find that vibe attractive. Not so attractive that they'd go with him for 1,000 baht instead of beer-belly Bob or grandpa Tom offering 3,000 at the same time, but if they don't have much to do at the moment, hanging out for some hours at a discount rate, or even free, is a-ok and much more fun than sitting in the room / restaurant by themselves.
    You're right, I see and know so many guys who get girls just by their personality and charm, even in Thailand. But thinking of yourself as casanova, after fucking a hooker and paying her money is ludicrous.

  6. #29943

    Let me spell it out for you and bring you to the real world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    Team 1990's?

    Grandpa's? Do you have issues with old guys? Just curious. You have done this before too.
    Team 90's was born in the 90's and are 30 and under. It's the best years of their lives. Of course they're going to try to hook up with the exotic lasses for free if they are fit and handsome. It's their best chance. They should put some effort. It would hurt their egos. Sorry, outsiders see old P4P guys as washed up has been. They see the hobby as abnormal. That is why politicians want to clean up the lucrative nightlife. They want the family Disneyworld vibe. My apologies to anyone who feels they are competing with men half their age. Makes me wonder if everything is so kosher, why visit Patts multiple times? I have no problem with guys believing the girls when they are coaxing their egos. They have families to care for. I'm not better than anyone. But a lot of guys have fragile psyches in SEA.

  7. #29942

    Relax

    Quote Originally Posted by Allover  [View Original Post]
    Team 1990's?

    Grandpa's? Do you have issues with old guys? Just curious. You have done this before too.
    It's just colorful wordplay. Most expats are older in Thailand. I was just giving an example. And you're right people make fun of the old guys on this board. But guess what? People that don't monger are even harsher. Everyone cannot stay young forever. I understand the 60 year old crowd like to cheat to prove they still got it. I have lots of friends that get fits when you tell them they are not 60 yo alpha males.

  8. #29941
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    When any hooker looks you in the face and says, "2,500 baht", you automatically assume she regularly and often gets paid 2,500 baht? Really? Regardless what your eyes and often your ears are telling you about her relative to other hookers?

    Um. Ok.
    Am I the only one who can not see how EihTooms comment has anything whatsoever to do with the long-ass post he quoted?

    Mr. Enternational is wrong about him getting away with paying 1000 for what others pay 3000 not having to do with his charm, or rather, attitude though. I have never met him, but based on his posts I'm sure I've seen people like him other places. They give off this "yeah, I get enough pussy as it is. Girls like to hang with me. I don't care much if you go with me or not, but if you go with me, free or not, you better believe I'll fuck you, and you'll have a good enough time too. " vibe.

    Girls everywhere in the world find that vibe attractive. Not so attractive that they'd go with him for 1,000 baht instead of beer-belly Bob or grandpa Tom offering 3,000 at the same time, but if they don't have much to do at the moment, hanging out for some hours at a discount rate, or even free, is a-ok and much more fun than sitting in the room / restaurant by themselves.

    If Bob or Tom suggests the same, they're going to say no, unless they're desperate for money, 'cause it just ain't fun hanging out with beer-belly Bob or grandpa Tom. This is why I think some feel the need to "not believe", or think the girls are more ugly than others. There's not much point in others trying to respond in a similar way to him as it's going to come of really incongruent and fake. The girls will just think you're stupid and laugh at you. If you're not a natural at this, you might be able to "fake it 'till you make it" though, if you put in the work.

  9. #29940
    Quote Originally Posted by Gargano19  [View Original Post]
    Changing destination (country) has its own risks. Thailand has been quite safe for now. Other countries, you never know when the second wave hits, and last thing I would need is to get stuck in a country I am not familiar with. And there are very few countries where girls are actively meeting unknown mongers or new tourists. Many are just meeting regulars, so it will not be that easy to find pussies.
    Pattaya is one of the only cities where I have fun without getting bored.

    I know several other places in the world for P4 P, Africa, Marrakech, Havana, Mexico, Hong Kong, Manila, Angeles, Cebu, Amsterdam and even in Bangkok I end up getting bored.

  10. #29939
    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    Pattaya will recover, it always does.
    Thank you for your support. I really hope you are right. Usually I am naturally optimistic.

  11. #29938
    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    To wonder how we will find Pattaya on our return and even if it will be interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHb74aL4yB0&t=28s

    No interest for me going there right now. The majority of the girls I was in contact with returned to their homes. Will they come back to Pattaya? Nothing is less sure. I may start looking for other destinations.

    I was ready to buy an apartment in Pattaya. I had been looking for a few months. Fortunately I did not do it!
    All my regulars who were about to come in May, decided not to come. Rightly so. And they have no idea about when they can come back. All of them have enough funds to stay afloat for few more months, and combined with their sponsors and low expenses in hometown, they're in no hurry to come back to my arms either LOL. Which is fine, I have enough in my queue. Just the other day, I was talking to another girl, who messaged me out of the blue and asked how am I doing. I met her last year around Feb and haven't met since. She didn't ask for help directly tho. She might also go back to her hometown in May end, she now works via smooci and bookings are obviously quite less.

    Changing destination (country) has its own risks. Thailand has been quite safe for now. Other countries, you never know when the second wave hits, and last thing I would need is to get stuck in a country I am not familiar with. And there are very few countries where girls are actively meeting unknown mongers or new tourists. Many are just meeting regulars, so it will not be that easy to find pussies.

  12. #29937

    Stay positive

    Quote Originally Posted by Pimpampoumpipo  [View Original Post]
    To wonder how we will find Pattaya on our return and even if it will be interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHb74aL4yB0&t=28s

    No interest for me going there right now. The majority of the girls I was in contact with returned to their homes. Will they come back to Pattaya? Nothing is less sure. I may start looking for other destinations.

    I was ready to buy an apartment in Pattaya. I had been looking for a few months. Fortunately I did not do it!
    Walking Street hasn't changed all that much since my first visit in 2003(Anyone remember FLB Bar?). Even the girls were still the same. Very sad to see that all the icons vanish. Pattaya will recover, it always does. Fewer bars, entertainment venues, etc, but maybe that'll be a good thing. However, it will take some time as I can't see many international tourists going this year. I was hoping to be back in October, but it'll more likely be March next year till I'm there.

  13. #29936
    To wonder how we will find Pattaya on our return and even if it will be interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHb74aL4yB0&t=28s

    No interest for me going there right now. The majority of the girls I was in contact with returned to their homes. Will they come back to Pattaya? Nothing is less sure. I may start looking for other destinations.

    I was ready to buy an apartment in Pattaya. I had been looking for a few months. Fortunately I did not do it!

  14. #29935
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Back in March I was on a dating app talking to a chick. She claimed to be Russian from Vladivostok. We got like 3 lines in. Hello, how are you doing. Nice to meet you. I asked what she was doing and she just disappeared. She was so damn fine that I knew it was probably one of those bullshit profiles. One week later I was like Hello,? Still nothing.

    Fast forward to over a month later, yesterday, and the chick starts back talking again. She said that she had problems with the app. I was thinking here she goes with that bullshit. So in order to speed up where this thing was heading, I asked if she wanted to meet today. She said sure. 6 pm. By then she had given me her Line so she sent the location through that app.

    I went to the place she told me at the right time. But she was not outside. I sent her a message saying I had arrived and she said she would be right out. She showed up 5 minutes later. I was thinking to myself there is no way I would have waited for a Thai chick that long. She wanted to go see what was open so she hopped on the back of my bike and we hit some restaurant along Jomtien Beach. She had shrimp and I had steamed kale. 400 baht. She had asked the restaurant about beer. I guess she has not been keeping up with the news. So she did not drink anything while I had a club soda.

    When we finished eating she was still talking about beer. We decided that we would go to 7 to make a purchase then go back to her place to drink. I told her that I did not drink beer so she said the Sang Som that I was buying would do her fine. We got ice, soda, tonic, and Schweppes Manao as well. 400 baht.

    Got to her condo and sat on the balcony. She had me light one of those mosquito repellent deals. I told her that I didn't know mosquitos came up this high. She had a nice view of the skyline. Could see Pattaya Park, Big Buddha, and all that shit. She told me that the building is virtually empty. She said she would be moving soon to a bigger, cheaper place in the same building because the Chinese owner does not want to come down on the rent. 7000 baht. New place is 5000 baht. She said the other place is on the third floor and has shit for a view though.

    We sat there listening to music and drinking and talking. She was teaching me Russian at the same time. After finishing 3/4 of the 70 CL bottle I decided to call it a night on that drinking shit. She wanted to continue on but I told her fuck that. So she decided to go take a shower and I went in to join her. I washed her body and she washed mine.

    We went to the bed and started fucking like rabbits. I thought I was in an 80's porno movie. Same BB+CIP that I previously stated to be status quo in these parts. Finished and fell the fuck asleep. We woke up this morning at 7 for round 2. She said she normally wakes at 10 or 11, but my old man bladder was bursting as is usual for early AM. Man this chick is nice with it. We went to take showers and she cooked me some breakfast and I went on my way. 800 baht for those that want to count the food and drinks while insisting that there is no such thing as free pussy.

    I will probably be back over there later on today because she wants to cook dinner for me. I continue to bat 1000, which makes this the best Covid ever! I will surely have some fond memories of this shit. Now back to the my girl is better than yours because I paid more argument.
    Mr. E, is this video out already I like to obtain it and add it to my collection.

  15. #29934

    Not Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool  [View Original Post]
    Of course team 1990's will try to score for free.
    Team 1990's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cool  [View Original Post]
    They can get with a local man. Say a middle of the pack working girl has 20 guys kicking the tires during high season on a busy weekend. Say Grandpa has lived in Patts for 10 years. He may say no. But say the Navy guy is in town he may bite.
    Grandpa's? Do you have issues with old guys? Just curious. You have done this before too.

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