Pattaya Reports

[CaliGuy33]

I used that as an example of the highest end:

Very achievable bonus mile offers right now on cards:

Citi AA card - 65 K miles for 4 K spend in 4 months.

Barclay AA Aviator Red - 60 K miles after spending $1.

Barclay Business AA card - 80 K miles for 2 K spend in 3 months.

BOA Air France card - 70 K miles for 2 k spend in 3 months.

Amex Green Card - 50 K pts after 2 k spend in 6 months.

The first 3 cards over a 6-12 month period could easily net someone 210 K+ AA miles, enough for 3 RT economy class tickets to South Asia.

Consider myself the avg Joe most of my life. 22 years in the military, 12 years enlisted / 10 years commissioned. Only started making decent bank in the last 7-8 years after leaving the service.

As an American, my primary credit cards for earning points are Chase cards, specifically United Airlines Chase cards. One of United Airlines partners is Thai Airways so you can book Thai Airways flights directly on United's website with your points. The pro tip with United cards is you can apply and get approved for both personal and business (an actual business isn't needed just make one up) cards. Thus, you can get a new United card yearly between the two.

[Alex Alexa]

I used that as an example of the highest end:

Very achievable bonus mile offers right now on cards:

Citi AA card - 65 K miles for 4 K spend in 4 months.

Barclay AA Aviator Red - 60 K miles after spending $1.

Barclay Business AA card - 80 K miles for 2 K spend in 3 months.

BOA Air France card - 70 K miles for 2 k spend in 3 months.

Amex Green Card - 50 K pts after 2 k spend in 6 months.

The first 3 cards over a 6-12 month period could easily net someone 210 K+ AA miles, enough for 3 RT economy class tickets to South Asia.

Consider myself the avg Joe most of my life. 22 years in the military, 12 years enlisted / 10 years commissioned. Only started making decent bank in the last 7-8 years after leaving the service.

Benefits can be had I agree. BUT.

Studies have shown the Consumer comes out on the Short end majority of the time.

I got lots of points about 5 round trips to Bangkok. The cheapest flights always are bad Routings.

I prefer to just pay $1,000 regular price.

[Ehs183]

When you give the Platinum Amex as an example it just blows your Premise out of the water.

Not ez unless you a Saudi Prince type spender to make coin via credit card game.

Avg Schmuck have to do avg Schmuck things. Work, save, invest, for 39 years or more. Actually works.

I used that as an example of the highest end:

Very achievable bonus mile offers right now on cards:

Citi AA card - 65 K miles for 4 K spend in 4 months.

Barclay AA Aviator Red - 60 K miles after spending $1.

Barclay Business AA card - 80 K miles for 2 K spend in 3 months.

BOA Air France card - 70 K miles for 2 k spend in 3 months.

Amex Green Card - 50 K pts after 2 k spend in 6 months.

The first 3 cards over a 6-12 month period could easily net someone 210 K+ AA miles, enough for 3 RT economy class tickets to South Asia.

Consider myself the avg Joe most of my life. 22 years in the military, 12 years enlisted / 10 years commissioned. Only started making decent bank in the last 7-8 years after leaving the service.

[NemanLion]

I'm opposite of you. Hahaha.

For me Face comes First,. No doesn't have to be Gorgeous, just one I like.

Question. Easier to find good face or body?

I think easier to find good body than good face.

Good bods are 8/10 but faces are 2/10. Combo is harder but still enough to have a few options every night in pattaya.

[Alex Alexa]

Insurance and utilities are some of the easiest bills to pay via CC. Groceries and Dining are slam dunks. All national groc chains pretty much take credits cards with no upcharge in the US. If you get a Bilt credit card you can actually charge your rent to it (up to $50 K a year) with no surcharge / fees and get points for travel.

The median US individual income is $46 K / year, household is $70+K. (That counts retirees / students in that mix) Median weekly earnings per worker for Q3 was was $1070/ week. I would venture to guess that the median single person in the US spends $1000/ month on expenses that easily can be charged to a CC.

Bravo to you if you don't spend $1 K a month outside of rent.

I am able to pay my property taxes and quarterly income taxes via CC for a nominal (approx 1%) fee, so meeting minimum spend requirements on even large amounts is generally not an issue. Even with the fee's, the math easily works on sign up bonuses..

When you give the Platinum Amex as an example it just blows your Premise out of the water.

Not ez unless you a Saudi Prince type spender to make coin via credit card game.

Avg Schmuck have to do avg Schmuck things. Work, save, invest, for 39 years or more. Actually works.

[Ehs183]

I'm a reasonable average Joe making median wage, but I do not spend $1 K / month (or the equivalent in euro's, which is about the same at the moment). Not by far.
Unless I would pay the rent for my apartment, insurances, energy and so on, by credit card. But that doesn't make any sense.

I should mention that I don't have a car. But even if I did, I would not spend $1 K / month on average.

Insurance and utilities are some of the easiest bills to pay via CC. Groceries and Dining are slam dunks. All national groc chains pretty much take credits cards with no upcharge in the US. If you get a Bilt credit card you can actually charge your rent to it (up to $50 K a year) with no surcharge / fees and get points for travel.

The median US individual income is $46 K / year, household is $70+K. (That counts retirees / students in that mix) Median weekly earnings per worker for Q3 was was $1070/ week. I would venture to guess that the median single person in the US spends $1000/ month on expenses that easily can be charged to a CC.

Bravo to you if you don't spend $1 K a month outside of rent.

I am able to pay my property taxes and quarterly income taxes via CC for a nominal (approx 1%) fee, so meeting minimum spend requirements on even large amounts is generally not an issue. Even with the fee's, the math easily works on sign up bonuses.

Current Amex Plat Business offer - 160 K pts for $16 K of spend in 3 months (Yep that's about the steepest min spend requirement out there) 171 K (160+11 for spend) amex pts is worth at very least $2,650 in redeeming for travel. The $695 cost of the card is offset by airline credits ($200), Dell credits ($400), Uber credits ($200) , and mobile phone bill credits ($120) + there are other benefits (free access to airline lounges, travel protections) Spending the $16 K purely on surcharged spend will cost me $190. A net $2475 worth of travel points. Enough points to get a person round trip to South Asia 2 X in economy, or 1 X in business.

[Vector313]

Oke.

I monger in Netherlands / Germany and I can do Thailand.

Lets stop comparing things because for Thailand its a HOLIDAY experience. For those Germany FKK clubs its a DAY entertainment. Apples / Apples please!

For ST lovers its easier these days to go to a RTC club in Germany. 30 e a pop is more cheap than the Thailand rates. However you also fucking more ugly chicks in those RTCs than you would do in Thailand. But for the quick fuck? Cheaper. However less choices in girls for sure and bigger change of getting an STD.

I prefer LT myself and than those prices in Thailand (Pattaya) can not compete. Around 100 e for a night? Thats a 30 min session in the Netherlands or not even enough to cover the 1st fuck in a better FKK. Last times I did LT twice with a dancer from a gogobar in Pattaya. 2 K LT + barfine. Nothing can compete with that anywhere in the world. Especially when you take into account ALL the time you spend with someone + unlmiited sex experience.

I appreciate your view but slow down cowboy, 100 eu gets you all night in Colombia and 2 days in different African countries. 😉.

As far as the "holiday" argument I call BS on that. Aside from other countries offering much better vacation scenery and activities than Pattaya, Even people who come to thailand for the vacation experience do not come to pattaya for that. They go to phuket, samui, lipe kr basically anywhere else in pattaya. And in those cities sex is more expensive and less options. It's not uncommon for a punter to come to pattaya and recruit a cheap girlfriend to travel to other thailand destinations to fill the sex part, but that completely changes and increases all of the other financial calculations.

[The Cane]

I'm opposite of you. Hahaha.

For me Face comes First,. No doesn't have to be Gorgeous, just one I like.

Question. Easier to find good face or body?

I think easier to find good body than good face.

If I can't get past that face then I for sure won't be getting to them hind parts! LOLOLOLOL!

[Alex Alexa]

To each their own of course and if Asian girls are not your type its no wonder you went 72 hours (or longer) without fucking one! They ware not actually my preference either. Oddly, Romanians are my favourites! But (a) I love the Asian attitude to service. Most of the girls from my recent trip really did want to ensure I was well satisfied. (b) its easy to find slim girls with good bodies. So the looks issue is then facial and whilst there are not a lot who are wow factor, I don't find it difficult to seek out some. Finally (c) there are so many to choose from! When I add price factor to all that for me, its a great hunting ground.

I'm opposite of you. Hahaha.

For me Face comes First,. No doesn't have to be Gorgeous, just one I like.

Question. Easier to find good face or body?

I think easier to find good body than good face.

[PayForIt]

But the issue, at least for me, is that you have to be into Asian women, and I'm really not that much. Making it not worth it to me to fly all the way to Thailand (or anywhere else in Asia) to monger. One time in Pattaya I went 72 hours without fucking because I hadn't seen anybody I wanted. That was Pattaya. Ground zero for fucking in Thailand! So although I certainly acknowledge your value argument, it doesn't work for me because I'm just not attracted to most Asian women. From here on out I'll be sticking exclusively to the Americas and Europe for mongering (the latinas and the white girls float my boat). I must say though that one of the hottest girls I have ever been with in my entire life was found in Phuket. She was either Amerasian or Eurasian and looked like a Thai Jennifer Anniston (but with darker hair). Wow what a knockout! Mamasan knew she had a rare "white tiger" on her hands and charged accordingly. And I gladly paid what was asked for takeout (twice).

To each their own of course and if Asian girls are not your type its no wonder you went 72 hours (or longer) without fucking one! They ware not actually my preference either. Oddly, Romanians are my favourites! But (a) I love the Asian attitude to service. Most of the girls from my recent trip really did want to ensure I was well satisfied. (b) its easy to find slim girls with good bodies. So the looks issue is then facial and whilst there are not a lot who are wow factor, I don't find it difficult to seek out some. Finally (c) there are so many to choose from! When I add price factor to all that for me, its a great hunting ground.

[CaliGuy33]

Been on a bit of a massage binge lately. I mean, 800 baht for a nice, professional massage and HJ release is quite the deal, especially at the current exchange rate ($21); I can get about 8 to 10 massage / HJ here compared to one back home. I mainly stick to the ones on Buakho. The masseuse at the one I went to today was trying to upsell the HJ to 1,000 baht total LOL; I told her firmly no, a massage with HJ is 800 total everywhere. And she stands her ground (Thai saving face). So she shuts up and continues the massage and I close my eyes knowing that within a minute she'll acquiesce and oblige to the 800 baht normal price after one last saving face attempt at 1,000. And of course that's exactly what happened. No reason to overpay gents, hold your ground. If she had not agreed to 800, I would have gotten a nice oil massage for 300 baht from her and gone to the massage shop next door and gotten 800 massage / HJ price, so it's a win win either way and would be a loss for the girl to not take the 800 baht price and mamasan would not be happy. Then she gave me her Line and said she'll come to my loom for boom boom after work for 2,000 baht LOL. I never pay more than 1,500 for ST and this particular girl isn't even worth 1,500. The inflated egos some of these chicks have.

[Mogwai]

Everybody knows that Soi 6, you need to walk up and down 6 times, not 5, to spot 9's and 10's. They will magically appear. Thats' why it's called Soi 6, not Soi 5.

And the 9 or 10 that you spot that sixth time, is a ladyboy.

[Mogwai]

The reasonable average Joe making median wage can most likely get one-two overseas flights for punting trips for the taxes and fees portion by just strategically applying for credit cards and getting bonuses. They just need a FICO above 675 and be able to spend $1 K / month of normal spend on a credit card.

I'm a reasonable average Joe making median wage, but I do not spend $1 K / month (or the equivalent in euro's, which is about the same at the moment). Not by far.
Unless I would pay the rent for my apartment, insurances, energy and so on, by credit card. But that doesn't make any sense.

I should mention that I don't have a car. But even if I did, I would not spend $1 K / month on average.

[MartinFlevo]

Oke.

I monger in Netherlands / Germany and I can do Thailand.

Lets stop comparing things because for Thailand its a HOLIDAY experience. For those Germany FKK clubs its a DAY entertainment. Apples / Apples please!

For ST lovers its easier these days to go to a RTC club in Germany. 30 e a pop is more cheap than the Thailand rates. However you also fucking more ugly chicks in those RTCs than you would do in Thailand. But for the quick fuck? Cheaper. However less choices in girls for sure and bigger change of getting an STD.

I prefer LT myself and than those prices in Thailand (Pattaya) can not compete. Around 100 e for a night? Thats a 30 min session in the Netherlands or not even enough to cover the 1st fuck in a better FKK. Last times I did LT twice with a dancer from a gogobar in Pattaya. 2 K LT + barfine. Nothing can compete with that anywhere in the world. Especially when you take into account ALL the time you spend with someone + unlmiited sex experience.

[Explorer8939]

A big difference between the attraction for two week millionaires and longer stays is the Availability of repeats at discount rates. For two weeks, a guy might be churning through a different girl every session. However, the semi resident will have access to repeats and off the clock hookups often at fractions of rack pricing. A gogo girl might be 10 k all up out of the club but she will be far less than that as a lunchtime repeat on the way to work.

Correct.

Go-go girls are so cheap in the daytime that I often have two at a time come to my condo. They don't seem to mind being fucked in front of the other girl, the only limitation is tgat they change out the condom when I change girls.