Have you visited Bangkok as a black / brown guy or have any more details on that aspect? I want to travel to Thailand and wanted to know which of these two places would be the friendliest and ultimately worth it compared to sticking with Colombia.
Based on your question it seems you have misconceptions. Thai people come in all shades so it has nothing to do with complexion. When he says Brown, he means Indian. It has less to do with skin tone (as it seems you are asking) and more to do with nationality due to historic experiences with people from that particular culture. That being said, nobody can tell you if a place is worth it to you. You would have to visit and decide that for yourself. I am Black American and have been living in Thailand for 15 years and have been visiting Colombia for 19 years. They are both worth it to me.
So I just finished my 3 day solo Pattaya Trip and enjoyed it.
Morning time was mostly used for actual sightseeing and evenings were used to explore the night scene.
A) First day. Walking street. Some of the gogos do not allow Brown people inside (read tons of comments here so was prepared) so was not bothered by it as there are tons of places anyway. First went to a Russian dance bar (do not recollect the name), couple of girls there was super HOT and the dance was erotic. Tipped them well and got a nice erotic dance. Had couple of beers and moved on to the next place on a side alley (guess name was Apple or something). Girls were welcoming and mamasans were friendly. Few more beers, lady drinks and drinks to mamasan and the girls allowed almost everything apart from FS and BJ. Was bit weird to do without the screens in strip clubs but then after few beers it was fine. Later moved on to Windmill (top floor) and saw Jaccuzi, girl on girl etc. Had few more beers, lady drinks and left. Visited couple of Indian / Pakistani Murja places but it was waste of time (though beer was cheap compared to other places). Couple of the girls were hot but they don't get undressed or allow touching so left quickly. Hit couple of clubs and then returned to the room, picked up a cute girl along the beach for ST 1. 5 THB and had a good time. Ordered dinner (Grab was useful) and slept.
B) Second Day. Afternoon went to a massage place Soi Buakhao. Girls standing outside dressed in the massage costume and picked a hot one (suspected it was LB) 60 mins for 700 THB massage in a table with curtains. Massage was non existent and she mentioned during the massage that she is a LB which I didn't mind. Little of body to body and HJ release and tipped her 400 THB. It was alright experience but wouldn't repeat.
Late evening finished dinner in one of the street foods and wandered around Soi Buakhao and LK metro and the side alleys. Went to couple of Girly bars, cute girl, decent english and good conversation with couple of beers and lady drinks. Owner was a guy from Australia who was a nice guy and spoke to him for a while and left the place. Visited few other bars for some beers and some foreplay. Went to Kink and it was great. Seated at the top floor with the moving stage, the girls near the seat were hot and tempting. Made few guy friends there (from Korea / Japan) and had a great time. Busty chick caught my eye, fondled and sucked her tits for couple of drinks and enjoyed my time there. Tipped her well and moved on to the few other places with the new friends. Finally decided to check out the place opp to Kink (forgot the name but opposite to kink on the right corner). Probably the best gogo that I visited in my trip. Once you spend something on the drinks (and Lady drinks to girls and mamasan) they are extra nice. Spent talking in detail to one of the mamasan and she suggested me to checkout the first floor. Checked it out and the had some shows there. Bathtub on one side, stage on other side with some shows every 30 minutes or so. I usually don't like ping pong and other shows but it was fun here. There was this thick girl who was playing with ping ball, deep throating a giant dildo and doing other sick shows and she made it so entertaining. Tipped her well and had fun with few other girls there. Spent a good 2 hours there before returning to the hotel and wanted to try my luck with TF. It was already late in the night and probably I was not very good with the online stuff so did not get any hot selection at that time. SO called it a night.
C) Third day afternoon. Booked a massage to my room (found from google and started calling some numbers, pics sent thru Watsapp). Girl arrived but definitely did not look like in the pictures, atleast 10 years old. Felt bad to send her back and thought will have atleast a massage. Decent massage, nice teasing, ended up giving a decent BBJ which got Johnny up and running and then ended up FS in doggy. Started out as a meh experience and ended up nicely. Paid 2000 THB including massage and FS.
Late evening few more gogos in LK metro and had some food. There were couple of sports bars around the area as well which I enjoyed for cheap beers. On the way home was checking TF and agreed with one girl (Sui or something sounded like a fake name anyway) for 1. 5 K THB. Slim body, small tits and quite active. FS and CBJ and ended up in cowgirl. She agreed to stay the night for another 2 K it was already late so negotiated to 1. 5 K. Cuddled nicely and slept off. Next day early morning one more round (I initiated and she joined) and slept again for couple of hours. Woke up at 8 am, told she can join me for breakfast and she agreed. She was sweet helped me with my packing and stuff. LOL she even helped me with my bath, Johnny got aroused again and she didn't mind helping it to release on her tits. Had breakfast and tipped her (0. 5 K THB that she originally asked) since it was a good experience and left to Bangkok.
Had a great time being the first time here, maybe spent little more making first timer mistakes. Expenses on beer and nightlife was high (twice as what I originally planned) but again had fun so its alright. I enjoyed LK metro and the nearby areas compared to walking street and other places in Pattaya, the drinks were cheaper, some of the girls I found were super hot (subjective), places were less (or not) racist and the girls seemed more friendly. Will definitely repeat.
Have you visited Bangkok as a black / brown guy or have any more details on that aspect? I want to travel to Thailand and wanted to know which of these two places would be the friendliest and ultimately worth it compared to sticking with Colombia.
As a student of economics I don't see why it would. What it will do is help bring in more girls, increasing the supply. Which is a good thing for those of us on the demand side of the equation.
Both sides of this discussion are true. I believe in minimizing drinks and in-bar tips. I tend to pay more for boom boom and don't mind paying moderate bar fine. This process will encourage boom boom girls and reduce income for the drinks only girls.
I normally ask about availability of bar fine prior to buying a lady drink. That drink is her interview for a boom boom job. I seldom need a second interview. Never needed a third interview. Sometimes I take bar fines without buying a single drink.
As a student of economics I don't see why it would. What it will do is help bring in more girls, increasing the supply. Which is a good thing for those of us on the demand side of the equation.
Seems you missed a few classes?
- Big spender on drinks.
- More income on drinks for ladies.
- Decrease in willingness to go ST / LT (no urge).
- Increase in salaries (to attract more girls with x amount of drinks on commission).
- Higher prices for lady drinks.
- Longer and higher paying contracts (as an owner you don't want to have daily contracts but prefer to know how many girls you have the next day (s).
Salaries for agogo models have gone from 18 K in 2020 to 35 K now (PlayGirlz, Soi Boomrang).
Drinking prices for lady drinks will hit 300 THB soon.
Except I wasn't asking about hotels?? I was asking about what sites to meet local talent. I simply mentioned staying in an air be / be or hotel. Don't need help there. But thanks!!
Buy a membership for Thai Friendly. https://www.thaifriendly.com
You can stop the monthly recurring bill once you have bought the membership.
Also install the chat app Line on your phone. You will need it, because 99% of the girls use it.
As a student of economics I don't see why it would. What it will do is help bring in more girls, increasing the supply. Which is a good thing for those of us on the demand side of the equation.
Angeles City in the PI is the archetype:
Korean 2 week millionaires arrive, spending like crazy. They let the ladies know they don't want Farangs in "their" bar. Farangs stop coming. But the numbers of South Koreans alone isn't enough for the bars. Some ladies go home, less Koreans arrive, due to low numbers of ladies.
As a student of economics I don't see why it would. What it will do is help bring in more girls, increasing the supply. Which is a good thing for those of us on the demand side of the equation.
Except I wasn't asking about hotels?? I was asking about what sites to meet local talent. I simply mentioned staying in an air be / be or hotel. Don't need help there. But thanks!!
You are correct.
If you are going to Pattaya, no need to use a website to find a lady. Pattaya is not like Mexico. The Zona is the entire city.
If only there were a section here called "Pattaya Hotels".
Except I wasn't asking about hotels?? I was asking about what sites to meet local talent. I simply mentioned staying in an air be / be or hotel. Don't need help there. But thanks!!
2) duration: ST vs. LT. ST is usually 1 hour, but usually your girl has a leverage to prolong it to two hours if she likes a customer for what ever reason. LT is apparently tricky. It could be 4 hours, 5 hours, until morning 6 AM and until morning 9 AM -- all negotiable with the girl. 3) number of shots -- I was surprised that they count even for LT. "Normally" it is assumed 2, but a customer may negotiate to 3, or as many as he likes as long as the girl agrees. 4) special services; for example massaging bottom of the customer feet with the girl's breasts, etc. <-- all of these have to be negotiated well in advance with the help of Google Translator. Finally 5) Protection aka Condom use. She explained to me that if someone does not want to use condom, he would not be able to negotiate inside of the club -- he will be refused, almost 80%. However, if the customer is nice and serious about this and ready to tell the girl to leave the hotel room without pay, her only recourse is that the customer would not get his BF back, because unprotective service is against her club policy. When I asked mama-san about this very thing, she said to negotiate with the girl (not an outright "NO" so I am not 100% certain myself.
Just for next time: ST standard is one shot, one hour, but if you are normally pleasant, it could be two shots, two-three hours, and should be agreed before paying the barfine. The issue here is that normally the girl must return to the bar, and she of course wants to do that in time to get another barfine, not 10 minutes before the bar is closing. So this will of course limit what you can get.
There is nothing tricky about LT, as that is entirely up to the girl. Unlike for ST, she will not have to return to the bar, so she can stay with you till 6 am, 9 am, or 8 pm if that's when she starts working next day. Same for number of fucks of course. Standard would be 1-2 during the night, and one more in the morning before she leaves. If unsure, best tell the girl what you expect before paying the barfine.
Condom or no condom: unless you absolutely *need* it to be sex without condom, by far the best success rate will be had by just going with the flow. Girl gets horny enough, she will not do anything more than token objections. I do not adhere to any "kick her out if she insists on condom" mentality (and not implying you do either), unless you have previously agreed to sex without condom. Standard is sex with condom, and anything else should be treated as bonus, with our without the accompanying STDs, and not a reason to not pay what was agreed and kick her out.