Pattaya Reports

[Tomasb]

Thanks Kumbu.

In my semi-desperate attempts to recreate the atmosphere at BB, I decided to give Hillary 2 bar on Soi 4 a try last night. It has some of the same elements as BB including a live band playing rock music, wood beams and shoddy floors, a decrepit pool table, similar bohemian ambience and quite a few girls. The waitress directed me to a bar top table near the entrance to the ladies room where there was a quartet of women some of whom looked very familair. As it turns out, one women remembered me from BB and I remembered her as I generally tried to avoid her at BB as she was always quite persistent with me but I never found her that attractive. Not much has changed as she was all over me while I drank at their table. Touching my hair, stroking my arm, rubbing my back— you know the picture.

Finally after an hour or so, she says 😉to me 'you go home with me'. I wasn't interested in her three years years ago and nothing has changed except we are older. I would estimate her age as mid 40's. I respectively declined but quickly rejoined as a joke that I had no money honey. With that comment, she eventually wearied of me and moved to another table and was replaced by an attractive girl who grabbed a perch next to me. Another friend of the BB girl also reappeared at my table. My conversation with the new girl quickly revealed she was a Vietnamese from HoChiMinh City and spoke very good English. She took classes for a year and it showed. Her tourist visa is for 30 days and doubt she is doing many tourist activities per se but, nevertheless she was pleasant and attractive. It also became apparent that she did not speak Thai as she ended up speaking English with the other Thai girl at the table. More on the other girl in a moment.

One huge change for me from my prior stay in Bangkok is the cancer clearly has taken its toll on me. I don't have the energy level I use to have, and my bladder and GI tract don't function as well as they used to. In short, I have to pick my spots when I feel healthy. Tonight was not of them but nevertheless I exchanged What's App information with the Viet girl but then threw her back in the pool. An hour or so later, she was still looking for company (about 3 am). It was a tough night for girls. There were a lot girls there last night looking for company. I mean a lot. Not all were great looking but certainly there were several ladies under a different set of circumstances I would have proudly taken home.

So after she left, I started talking with the other Thai girl. She told me that she had a Finnish boy friend and doesn't go with other guys. Apparently, he is coming to Thailand soon. I had bought a round of drinks for these girls earlier and this girl insisted on buying me a drink to compensate for buying her a drink earlier. Nice girl and reimbursing me for a drink you don't see happen very often. This lady was def cute with daisy mae cutoff shorts and had a real spinner look to her. My only problem was she started suggesting that I was gay because I blew off her friend and the Vietnam girl. My other problem was she was proud of her unavailability as she blew off several guys who were trying to pick her up. A bit full of herself! Sounds like she has a nice sponsorship arrangement but at least she is holding up her end of the bargain.

Finally, I decided to leave but the original Thai girl from BB cruised by and told me that she had made her offer to me as a freebie. She was clearly annoyed with me so at least I accomplished something. Frankly, even with that I was not interested since she hangs out there and this would prob make me off limits to all her friends etc. It's never free anyway LOL.

I do have to say that last night Hillary 2 was quite active and many women appeared around closing hours. The faráng guys in there seemed less interested from my observation in pursuing the girls which contributed to a bit of a sense of desperation with the girls who were looking for an early morning assignation. .

I plan to contact the Viet girl though my experience has been girls from Vietnam are great in their country but not so good when you go with them out inside of their country. We shall see.

I remember your posts well, and even made a jaunt over to BB myself to check it out. Alas, I was not able to recreate the same groove you had, but appreciated your perspective on it. I look forward to reading your next set of reports, now that you are back in the saddle.

[Turgid]

A person can be a professional at any job. I saw this in a news report recently: "In sentencing Carey Ackies, 36, USA District Judge George Z. Singal said the New York man was a professional drug dealer who was responsible for sending substantial amounts of drugs to Maine. " In mongering parlance a pro is a professional provider of sex for money.

[Kumbu]

You may remember my posts from a few years ago as I almost exclusively patronized Bangkok Beat and wrote several reports about it. I still to this day have never taken a girl from a go-go in Bangkok as I don't like the strictly transactional aspect of talking to girls in there, the bar fine, dealing with mamasan etc. Now that the Beat is gone, I am having trouble finding a suitable replacement.

I remember your posts well, and even made a jaunt over to BB myself to check it out. Alas, I was not able to recreate the same groove you had, but appreciated your perspective on it. I look forward to reading your next set of reports, now that you are back in the saddle.

[Mogwai]

Not trolling at all. What do you say it is? Certainly not professional. Who ever refers to a hooker as a professional? A professional what?

To be honest with you I never realized it could also be short for prostitute. Nevertheless I have the feeling that most people here use / read it as an abbreviation for professional, meaning a girl who's only job is selling her body to make a living.

So in this case it has nothing to do with being highly educated. Unfortunately because some of them could use a little education.

[Jack Burton]

In other threads people use the word semi-pro for this description.

In Asia, true. In USA, semi-pro is another term for a truck-stop girl. Sometimes instead refers to a woman who more closely resembles a tractor-trailer than a pickup.

[DonkeyLeg]

To chime in, IMHO, "pro" always means professional.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/pro

I agree it usually means professional but not always. It can and is commonly used as slang when referring to a prostitute. As I mentioned in an earlier post I dislike the term prostitute and other derogatory descriptions when referring to what I prefer to call working girls which I realize makes no sense as a title for what they do. It just sounds more respectful.

[Danubius]

Dear members of ISG,

It is the first time that I make a post on this forum but I've already been following the posts from Pattaya for a couple of months. First I want to apologise if there are some typo's in my text because my English isn't very good.

On the 1st of October, me and a friend are going to Thailand for the first time. First we are going to the Phi Phi Islands and then (finally) to Pattaya. Because of all the posts on this forum I have a general idea of what I want to go visit in Pattaya.

First of all, I am really looking forward to soi 6. I'll probably visit soi 6 every day (I am staying for 8 days in Pattaya). I will do ST but am hoping that some girls also want to do LT when their shift has ended (around 2 AM). My main plan is to take a girl for LT so that I have a 'shot' in the evening and one in the morning (maybe a shot extra in the evening if I pay extra). Soi 6 in general sounds like the best place for me. I am almost thirty but aren't really good with women. I am social but aren't a great talker with girls / women my age. So this will be a good opportunity to practice.

Except soi 6, I am also looking at taking some girls from BR to my hotel for LT. I've read somewhere that these girls mostly don't wonna do LT so I can settle for ST in the evening and around noon I can go to soi 6. I'll just have to wait and see. I've also read that the girls from BR may lower the prices after 2 AM because then the possibility will lower that they can find another customer. I am willing to pay around 800-1300 for ST and 2000-2500 for LT. For an extra shot I am willing to pay 500. FYI, these prices I am willing to pay for girls from soi 6 and BR..

If your budget is limited you should check out the night clubs / discos on Walking Street like iBar, Insomnia, Marine, 808, Flexx, Lucifer, Pier etc. These are all total hooker-discos, meaning that at least 80-90% of all the girls in them are actually freelancers looking for business. Also many gogo girls frequent these places, after their bars have closed around 3 am and after. Soi 6 girls appear even earlier. Most girls here will go with you for 1,000 Baht (and that's usually for LT). Some of the youngest and hottest girls will ask for 2,000 Baht or so but that's negotiable of course, depending on your age, look and style. You will probably get the price down a little if you party with them first and if you are fun company.

[Mr Enternational]

Non-pros, on the other hand, are part-timers who might have sex for money occasionally (or even somewhat regularly), but tend to have a regular job or study. Some might even pretend not to be prostitutes and not see themselves as such, but would still go out and take money for sex at the end of the night.

In other threads people use the word semi-pro for this description.

[Crocodilexp]

Pro can be used as an abbreviation of both professional and prostitute.

To chime in, IMHO, "pro" always means professional. In Thailand, there are both pro and non-pro prostitutes. Professional prostitutes are full-time bargirls, massage girls or freelancers, which primarily make a living from selling sex. Non-pros, on the other hand, are part-timers who might have sex for money occasionally (or even somewhat regularly), but tend to have a regular job or study. Some might even pretend not to be prostitutes and not see themselves as such, but would still go out and take money for sex at the end of the night.

As I see it, a woman who is not part of the scene at all, who is never available on short notice for a price, is a "civilian", not a "non-pro".

[Sunlover2]

Problem with that is that pro is short for PROstitute, not professional.

In a P4 P context I would associate "pro" as shorthand for professional, but I am sure there are different regional connotations. Bottom line is she has sex for money. And in any case it is a slang phrase meant to be taken figuratively, not literally.

SL.

[Banana Boi]

Anyone else noticed the number of new karaoke bars popping up around town? Walked along Central Pattaya Road the other night and noticed 3 karaoke bars just east of Soi Buakhao (across from So Cool Massage). Maybe they were always around and I just never noticed them? Anyone been?

[Mr Enternational]

Since when? I think you're trolling now.

Not trolling at all. What do you say it is? Certainly not professional. Who ever refers to a hooker as a professional? A professional what? You see pros (prostitutes or paid women) and non-pros (non-prostitute or chick that does not take money for sex). You see nothing about anyone asking or posting about amateurs. Who would even know if a chick is an amateur besides her telling you that she is new at it (if you were to even believe it)? Whenever someone has written about a non-pro have you taken it to mean a chick that is new at fucking guys for money?

[DonkeyLeg]

Since when? I think you're trolling now.

Pro can be used as an abbreviation of both professional and prostitute. Obviously depends on the context.

[Mogwai]

Problem with that is that pro is short for PROstitute, not professional.

Since when? I think you're trolling now.

[FL Hawk]

P.S. Tried to send a private message but you're mailbox is full.

Sorry. I cleared it out! Thanks.