Pattaya Reports

[Steve 9696]

Totally agree. I enjoy the encounter much better when I treat the girls as human beings worthy of respect rather than just receptacles for my discharge.

I am with you guys strongly on this and it really bothers me when guys treat the girls as somehow lesser. This is a damn tough job that all of us would fail miserably at (even if we had a pussy!) plus they are brightening the day / week / month of another human being. What is not to love?

So what is the best name for this job? Sex Worker is so antiseptic and the good ones provide so much more than sex. These women completely change my outlook on life for gods sake!

I'm going with "Quality of Life Improvement Specialist" !

[Mr Enternational]

I don't like them being called whs or hos. I don't know any hookers in america. I don't think they should be called wh---s either.

Just my opinion though, you should use whatever word you think best.

LOL. But that is the literal definition of a woman that has sex with a man for money. It is even in the bible. What else should we not call by what it is?

[LittleBigMan]

A bit off topic!

A few years back we had a falling out and our friendship parted ways with me wishing him the best while living here in Pattaya. Through the years I would run into him during his Go Go's outings but the last year and a half I've not seen him anywhere nor seen any reporting. My memory serves me right he was reporting well before 2007, on the Thailand forum we came to meet when he retired and settle in Pattaya Jomtien area in 2007.

I was in his area yesterday afternoon and decided to stop by his Condo to check on his status and found out through the office that Daddy07 had passed away due to poor health a year ago.

Are. I. P.

[Horatio]

I have no problem with someone describing someone as lazy. It seems like a big generalization but I don't know that it isn't true. I don't like them being called whs or hos. I don't know any hookers in america. I don't think they should be called wh---s either.

Just my opinion though, you should use whatever word you think best.

You do realize that being sweet and friendly and lazy are not mutually exclusive don't you? Just because you are one does not mean you can not be the other.

And calling something for what it is is not saying there is a dislike for it. I love McDonald's, but that shit will make you fat and sick. The same way I like hookers, but it does not prevent me from seeing that most are lazy.

Now picture the hookers in your country. Do you also believe they are women that want a better life and choose what they think is best? Or does this only apply to the fun ones that are in a far away land where you do not speak the languange?

[Turgid]

It makes no difference but I prefer to call girls in the P4P business working girls not working girls hookers or prostitutes. I prefer to see them as individuals not as indistinctive uneducated hoards of farm hands from Essan who should be grateful that somebody wants to shag them for 700 baht arguing its twice the minimum wage. For better or worse they take care of our needs, enrich our lives with their company. Some are deviant hustlers but most are nice people. They choose this line of work not because they are lazy they do it for the money. Some need that money badly to take care of responsibilities back home and some just see it as a way to a better lifestyle. Some members understandably see it differently but that's my take for what it's worth.

Totally agree. I enjoy the encounter much better when I treat the girls as human beings worthy of respect rather than just receptacles for my discharge.

[Steve 9696]

Never thought I'd read 'financial report and excel' in the Pattaya forum in the same post. Buddy and I were just talking about the hidden costs that you don't expect on a trip, I brought up the FKK's in Germany and compared them to Thailand and its funny that your average encounter cost you $64 which is roughly the same to shag a girl in the clubs in Germany. Times are different mind you but sex is sex. The hidden costs though do add up in Thailand if you get a girl LT and like her company and end up keeping her vs just having sex and moving on. Drinks, food and entertainment add up quickly when you add a girl to your trip. Same goes with having a buddie or two along, for instance my one buddie wouldn't touch the streetfood which really increases the food budget, another would want everyone to go drink for drink thus increasing the drink bill accordingly. The clubs in Germany are an exception to the rule, no drinks needed for the girls and everything was included in the price of admission so the money in your wallet could be budgeted out exactly for rounds of sex. My last trip I made the mistake of staying in Bangkok and passing up on Pattaya since a buddie's schedule wouldn't allow for a longer Pattaya visit. Big mistake on my part. Those extra drink prices and gogo rates really ate into my budget more than I expected. Pattaya rocks on service and low cost alternatives to stretch your budget.

We were discussing this recently in another thread. Of the places I've been that provide a fun club experience in addition to sex, Thailand still rules for low cost. Even the gogos and buying lady drinks are lower priced than many other world options.

Brazil remains my pick for best bang for the buck. A bit higher priced than thailand. But much better service guarantee at the nice clubs.

And Germany FKK ends up a bit less of a value, but still totally awesome and realistically quite a bit more expensive than Thailand when you include the full club experience.

[MichaelSamuel]

I keep pretty good records each trip as well but never broke it down this way. For clarification in the 33 that's per session not per round right? So a girl let once at night and again in morning is just a 1 count. But if you take the girl again in a couple days it's now a 2 right? Did you count BJ bar as a half or not at all? I got a week coming up next week will do the same analysis.

I finally got around to inputting my November mongering trip to Pattaya in Excel to see how I did.

I spent 17-1/2 mongering days in Pattaya, a new record for me. In that time I had intercourse 33 times with 24 new girls and 9 repeats (a couple of repeats were from prior visits). 24 of the encounters were girls from Soi 6, 4 were from agogo's, 5 from Red Car and one girl from Wind Mill but who I got freelancing.

The total amount I spent on fees and fines and tips was around 69,000 Baht (about $2,100), which equates to an averaged cost of about $64 per encounter.

I was actually stunned at this final cost, at how low it was. I was expecting it to be closer to $3,000 based on the cash I had remaining at the end, but after reviewing everything I find it is accurate. Much was made of my spending tons of money on Monkey Paw's high priced agogo girls, but I only went out 5 times with agogo girls, so their "high" cost is averaged out over the other 29 encounters. But for comparison, last April, where I had only one agogo girl, the average cost per encounter was $14 lower, so the agogo girls did have an impact. What likely depleted my budget so much compared to previous trips was not the direct cost of the girls or the cost of the agogo girls, but rather the entertainment expenses. I bought many more Lady Drinks and I literally threw money away hurling 100 Baht notes to the dancers!

The bottom line of how much we spent, at least for us vacationers, comes down to whether we had a good time or not for the money, and if we can afford it. I certainly had a good time! I am fortunate enough that I could also afford it. In previous trips I was ready to leave after 10 days, but with some bros showing up this time, other than some disappointments with the performance of the high priced agogo girls, I was hardly ever bored and consider this to have been my best trip to Thailand ever. So, no regrets about what I spent.

I hope this information helps someone.

[Breadman]

I finally got around to inputting my November mongering trip to Pattaya in Excel to see how I did.
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Never thought I'd read 'financial report and excel' in the Pattaya forum in the same post. Buddy and I were just talking about the hidden costs that you don't expect on a trip, I brought up the FKK's in Germany and compared them to Thailand and its funny that your average encounter cost you $64 which is roughly the same to shag a girl in the clubs in Germany. Times are different mind you but sex is sex. The hidden costs though do add up in Thailand if you get a girl LT and like her company and end up keeping her vs just having sex and moving on. Drinks, food and entertainment add up quickly when you add a girl to your trip. Same goes with having a buddie or two along, for instance my one buddie wouldn't touch the streetfood which really increases the food budget, another would want everyone to go drink for drink thus increasing the drink bill accordingly. The clubs in Germany are an exception to the rule, no drinks needed for the girls and everything was included in the price of admission so the money in your wallet could be budgeted out exactly for rounds of sex. My last trip I made the mistake of staying in Bangkok and passing up on Pattaya since a buddie's schedule wouldn't allow for a longer Pattaya visit. Big mistake on my part. Those extra drink prices and gogo rates really ate into my budget more than I expected. Pattaya rocks on service and low cost alternatives to stretch your budget.

[Mr Enternational]

I agree. They are women who want a better life and choose what they think is best or what works for them. The ones I met were sweet friendly women. If people here think there is something wrong with being a prostitute, then they are just as much in the wrong for going to one.

You do realize that being sweet and friendly and lazy are not mutually exclusive don't you? Just because you are one does not mean you can not be the other.

And calling something for what it is is not saying there is a dislike for it. I love McDonald's, but that shit will make you fat and sick. The same way I like hookers, but it does not prevent me from seeing that most are lazy.

Now picture the hookers in your country. Do you also believe they are women that want a better life and choose what they think is best? Or does this only apply to the fun ones that are in a far away land where you do not speak the languange?

[Horatio]

I agree. They are women who want a better life and choose what they think is best or what works for them. The ones I met were sweet friendly women. If people here think there is something wrong with being a prostitute, then they are just as much in the wrong for going to one.

It makes no difference but I prefer to call girls in the P4P business working girls not working girls hookers or prostitutes. I prefer to see them as individuals not as indistinctive uneducated hoards of farm hands from Essan who should be grateful that somebody wants to shag them for 700 baht arguing its twice the minimum wage. For better or worse they take care of our needs, enrich our lives with their company. Some are deviant hustlers but most are nice people. They choose this line of work not because they are lazy they do it for the money. Some need that money badly to take care of responsibilities back home and some just see it as a way to a better lifestyle. Some members understandably see it differently but that's my take for what it's worth.

[Mogwai]

Seems like you are only reading part of my posts. You are missing the part about offering them alternative ways to make money and them turning it down, saying THEIR JOB IS TO FUCK FOR MONEY!

I have read your entire post and that was just one example of one girl who turned down your offer. I'm sure you have some more examples but that doesn't mean they are ALL lazy, like you said. That's just BS.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

I am not very up to date but I will still take advantage of my period of sobering after holidays to make a small exercise of the balance sheet of my last visit to Pattaya of December 2018.

8 days in total, including 5 days in VLT. Personally I think a VLT in Pattaya is as useful as a car in Paris, we never know where to park it, we quickly enough to always have the same and it costs an arm. The last time she was menstruating, this time she had a flu with fever (not very fit so) she gave me. But hey I always try to persuade me that I'm madly in love with a little bar working girl, it's really anything I know, the day I'm having my slap approaching fast.

On average I see 3 girls a day, 2 days off. Given that I give myself a dog sickness to amortize my VLT we will say that 2 bucks a day seem to be the cruising speed.

The first 3 days I attended the massage parlors during the day and the gogos at night. I completely changed my attitude in the gogos. Previously I spent almost nothing and especially no LD, now I have a real budget on it and also to slip a small ticket in the light dress of the beautiful dancers if they make me a pretty smile.

In total for these 8 days I spent 937,00 € for massages, gogos and VLT and I even made a little extra the last day in Bangkok by going to the airport with a small quarantine well preserved met on Thaifriendly where I just paid the hotel and his taxi. That is 121,00 € per day. It can not be said that I am private although I do not take girls in gogos, much too expensive, I leave that to those who come once a year (as I did before).

[Allover]

I finally got around to inputting my November mongering trip to Pattaya in Excel to see how I did.

I spent 17-1/2 mongering days in Pattaya, a new record for me. In that time I had intercourse 33 times with 24 new girls and 9 repeats (a couple of repeats were from prior visits). 24 of the encounters were girls from Soi 6, 4 were from agogo's, 5 from Red Car and one girl from Wind Mill but who I got freelancing.

The total amount I spent on fees and fines and tips was around 69,000 Baht (about $2,100), which equates to an averaged cost of about $64 per encounter.

I was actually stunned at this final cost, at how low it was.
So, no regrets about what I spent.

I hope this information helps someone.

All that matters is you can afford it and you have no regrets. Reading your reports I too am surprised you didn't spend more. Thanks for all of your great reports.

P.S. Tried to send a private message but you're mailbox is full.

[DonkeyLeg]

It makes no difference but I prefer to call girls in the P4P business working girls not working girls hookers or prostitutes. I prefer to see them as individuals not as indistinctive uneducated hoards of farm hands from Essan who should be grateful that somebody wants to shag them for 700 baht arguing its twice the minimum wage. For better or worse they take care of our needs, enrich our lives with their company. Some are deviant hustlers but most are nice people. They choose this line of work not because they are lazy they do it for the money. Some need that money badly to take care of responsibilities back home and some just see it as a way to a better lifestyle. Some members understandably see it differently but that's my take for what it's worth.

[FL Hawk]

I finally got around to inputting my November mongering trip to Pattaya in Excel to see how I did.

I spent 17-1/2 mongering days in Pattaya, a new record for me. In that time I had intercourse 33 times with 24 new girls and 9 repeats (a couple of repeats were from prior visits). 24 of the encounters were girls from Soi 6, 4 were from agogo's, 5 from Red Car and one girl from Wind Mill but who I got freelancing.

The total amount I spent on fees and fines and tips was around 69,000 Baht (about $2,100), which equates to an averaged cost of about $64 per encounter.

I was actually stunned at this final cost, at how low it was. I was expecting it to be closer to $3,000 based on the cash I had remaining at the end, but after reviewing everything I find it is accurate. Much was made of my spending tons of money on Monkey Paw's high priced agogo girls, but I only went out 5 times with agogo girls, so their "high" cost is averaged out over the other 29 encounters. But for comparison, last April, where I had only one agogo girl, the average cost per encounter was $14 lower, so the agogo girls did have an impact. What likely depleted my budget so much compared to previous trips was not the direct cost of the girls or the cost of the agogo girls, but rather the entertainment expenses. I bought many more Lady Drinks and I literally threw money away hurling 100 Baht notes to the dancers!

The bottom line of how much we spent, at least for us vacationers, comes down to whether we had a good time or not for the money, and if we can afford it. I certainly had a good time! I am fortunate enough that I could also afford it. In previous trips I was ready to leave after 10 days, but with some bros showing up this time, other than some disappointments with the performance of the high priced agogo girls, I was hardly ever bored and consider this to have been my best trip to Thailand ever. So, no regrets about what I spent.

I hope this information helps someone.