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  1. #27038

    The 6.

    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy2000  [View Original Post]
    If what you're looking for his marriage, it's better not to seek your partners in Insomnia, Soi 6, or elsewhere in Pattaya.
    LOL I find love every day on Soi 6 sometimes twice!

  2. #27037
    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy2000  [View Original Post]
    JW,

    Very nice post. I applaud your courage to share your most intimate thoughts with us. You are an engaging and humorous writer. I'm also surprised to see a few of our fellow mongers beating up on you. We should encourage people to make post like yours rather than beating them up with trivia. They may be more savvy mongers, but you are much better storyteller.

    Here is my analysis of your post. You recently went thru a divorce. You are most likely craving for love and affection. In Thailand you found one girl who seemingly gave you what you want. She may have even developed some feelings for you. But since you were not sending her a generous monthly allowance, when another generous customer came along she decided to take the bird in hand. She may have taken it even if you had been sending her money.

    In Thailand and in the Philippines there are millions of young non-working women who would cherish your affection, would marry you, move to the United States and have children with you. They are very easy to find. So if that is what you are truly looking for I recommend not looking for them at Soi 6..
    Thank you man. I think you are probably 100% correct. I appreciate the kind words and advice.

  3. #27036

    Private dancer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhop  [View Original Post]
    A decade back this book was recommended to everyone visiting Thailand for the first time, older folks on this forum might remember it. Had helped quite a few to avoid falling into the trap of the bar girls.

    Private Dancer by Stephan Leather. As per Pattaya Mall. Should be compulsory reading for all first timers to Thailand.

    PDF available for free download.

    I felt its a very well written book detailing the bar experiences of a Brit guy visiting Thailand and I have to admit some of the sections were damn funny, sometimes while reading almost fell off my chair or choked on food or spilled coffee while LMFAO.
    It's nothing fun in private dancer.

    It s a story of self destruction.

    But the photo of the girl on the book is good!

    Who was? Where she now? Alive?

  4. #27035
    Quote Originally Posted by Sandyhop  [View Original Post]
    A decade back this book was recommended to everyone visiting Thailand for the first time, older folks on this forum might remember it. Had helped quite a few to avoid falling into the trap of the bar girls.
    While Private Dancer is a great realistic fictional story, I recommend Neil Hutchison's Money Number One series.

    http://moneynumberone.net/who-is-neil-hutchison

  5. #27034
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    You should have thought man if this girl wants me to go with her this bad she must be really hard up for money.
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    The Soi 6 girl whom you claim you are so madly in love with would not have got to 1st base with me. I don't tolerate aggresive hookers plus I am well aware of the quality level of Soi 6 girls of which very few can raise my desire high enough for even a quick, cheap, roll in the hay. In any case, so she is now getting laid left & right which is her job, BTW, and not answering your messages on a timely basis. Boo Hoo. Why don't you send her some money? Perhaps she will be more faithful or at least more responsive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    Just know that your girl is being ridden more than every horse in the West now. These girls are for fun only and believe me they know it. Stop! Drop! And Roll!
    Awwww...come on guys. You are hurting the guy's feelings here.

  6. #27033

    Private Dancer

    A decade back this book was recommended to everyone visiting Thailand for the first time, older folks on this forum might remember it. Had helped quite a few to avoid falling into the trap of the bar girls.

    Private Dancer by Stephan Leather. As per Pattaya Mall. Should be compulsory reading for all first timers to Thailand.

    PDF available for free download.

    I felt its a very well written book detailing the bar experiences of a Brit guy visiting Thailand and I have to admit some of the sections were damn funny, sometimes while reading almost fell off my chair or choked on food or spilled coffee while LMFAO.

  7. #27032
    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy2000  [View Original Post]
    The girls in the Philippines may actually be a better match since they generally speak English well. So what I recommend is get your ass back in Asia, do a little research, find an attractive civilian girl, marry her, bring her back to the US, and eventually give her a baby.
    So in the midst of feeling sorry for him, you recommend something to totally destroy the guy? While it may seem that Filipinas are speaking English, they are only able to mimic the sounds and have a minimal understanding of the language. They are dumb as posts. At the resort I asked for grilled cheese and the broad tells me there is only grilled ham and cheese. On the plane I asked for Grand Marnier and pineapple and she brings me only pineapple. I said I wanted GM & P. While holding my glass full of pineapple she says sorry sir but we don't have pineapple juice. And should I dare mention tampo?

  8. #27031

    Nice post!

    JW,

    Very nice post. I applaud your courage to share your most intimate thoughts with us. You are an engaging and humorous writer. I'm also surprised to see a few of our fellow mongers beating up on you. We should encourage people to make post like yours rather than beating them up with trivia. They may be more savvy mongers, but you are much better storyteller.

    Here is my analysis of your post. You recently went thru a divorce. You are most likely craving for love and affection. In Thailand you found one girl who seemingly gave you what you want. She may have even developed some feelings for you. But since you were not sending her a generous monthly allowance, when another generous customer came along she decided to take the bird in hand. She may have taken it even if you had been sending her money.

    In Thailand and in the Philippines there are millions of young non-working women who would cherish your affection, would marry you, move to the United States and have children with you. They are very easy to find. So if that is what you are truly looking for I recommend not looking for them at Soi 6. The girls in the Philippines may actually be a better match since they generally speak English well. So what I recommend is get your ass back in Asia, do a little research, find an attractive civilian girl, marry her, bring her back to the US, and eventually give her a baby. Because given the way you behaved in Pattaya, deep down you are looking for steady female companionship, not a rotation of working girls.

    For your friend, remind him of the adage "You can take a girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl". He too can easily find a civilian Thai girl who is equally beautiful and available. If what you're looking for his marriage, it's better not to seek your partners in Insomnia, Soi 6, or elsewhere in Pattaya.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jw112  [View Original Post]
    *I posted this on another forum. I thought I would drop it here too.

    Over a decade of mongering - 1st trip to Pattaya & my Dumbass falls in "Love".

    I've been mongering for well over a decade. I know better. I thought I was a seasoned vet and knew what I was getting into. It was a lifetime dream to finally make my way to Thailand. I went with a buddy who is new to mongering but has been wanting to travel. I was worried if I would be able to shake him long enough to get in trouble. He wanted to do all the tourist stuff so we made 'day trip' plans for 5 of the 8 days we would be there. Little did I know we would both meet someone on our second day who we both spent the rest of our week with. I did not know about the 3 days rule, but to be honest it wouldn't have mattered. I was hooked after the first LT.

    After 2 flights and 20 hours in the air we finally arrived in Bangkok. Stepped out of the airport and between the heat and the humidity I wanted to turn around and go back home. The heat was oppressive. After asking around for options for transportation we finally find the cheap option of the tour bus ($3) and wait for that. After a nice air conditioned ride we were both excited to finally be on our way after a long year of planning. A few hours and a baht bus later we arrived at our hotel on Soi 8. We check in, shower and make our way to the infamous Soi 6. Little did I know I was going to find more than I bargained for or was prepared for. We get to Soi 6 and a girl runs from a bar and grabs me. I explain to her I was tired, I just got here and I'm just looking. She protests but finally reluctantly lets me go. By the time I get the the end of the block a tiny, stunning girl who was just my type convinces me to take her upstairs. My buddy finds a girl at the same bar who he is into and we both head upstairs. I see him again in the hall as we pass each other only wearing towels and being lead by our respected ladies. I get in the room she starts with an "OK" BBBJ and follows up riding me to completion. Good time, but this is not my first rodeo. I thank her and meet my buddy downstairs. We head back to our hotel and I take my 4th shower of the day and agree to meet up with my friend after a short nap. We meet later that night and take the Baht bus to walking street for the first time. It's a lot to talk in the first time. We go into a few Gogos and nothing blows my mind. Not my scene and I already know the girls are out of my planned budget. After a few hours we go back to the hotel and turn in for the evening. I end up waking up around 4 am (which ended up happening every night) and I go outside and sit on the curb of my hotel to people watch. Soi 8 is pretty quiet around this time. I play with the local stray cat and marvel at the people who work at the open air bars who sleep there since there is no way to lock the place up. Around 4:30 am I see a robed barefoot Monk coming down the street. He comes up to me and gives me a blessing and and I put a handful of bahts in his bowl. I made a habit of this every night for the rest of my trip. It was one of the highlights of the trip as I've long been attracted to Buddhism. The next day we do a day trip to an Elephant village. While my buddy is riding an elephant I got to hold a 6 month old gibbons monkey for half an hour. Another highlight of the trip. We make our way back to the hotel and I'm completely wiped out from the heat and feel heat stroke coming on. I shower and agree to meet up with my friend in a few hours. We make our way to Soi 6 again and the girl who was the first to grab me on day one grabs me again and says "remember me?" You said you where to tired yesterday and I saw you go with another girl. I thought to myself, man if this girl wants me to go with her this bad I would be an idiot not to go upstairs with her. We go inside and get a drink. Her English is good and she is sweet and pushing all my buttons. I'm finding her more and more attractive as we chat. She asks if I'm ready to go upstairs and I say yes. We go upstairs and take a shower together. Her body is amazing and she is making me feel at ease. We make our way to the bed for a mediocre BBBJ. She grabs a condom and proceeds to ride me. I don't know if it was the heat stroker earlier in the day or the super thick condom but I was not able to finish. I tell her it is not going to happen. She gets off of me and asks if I finished with the girl I was with yesterday? I say yes and she give me a look like challenge accepted. She asks if I want to go long time back at my hotel. I explain to her that I had a long day and maybe I should get some rest. I agree to see her tomorrow to try again with my condoms. I ask what time she gets there and I agree to meet her at that time. I go home take a nap and wake up at 4 am again. She is still on my mind. I find this strange and it is making me feel lonely. How can I be feeling lonely in Pattaya with 10's of thousand of available women? I find myself on the curb of my hotel again. Getting blessed again. I'm approached by an older, not hot aggressive freelancer who will not take no for an answer. I tell her I'm staying at this hotel if she wants to come in. She says no, we must go to her hotel. This seems like a huge red flag to me. She still will not take no for an answer. I finally give in and she drags me 6 blocks to a hotel off the beaten path. It's a terrible room. She proceeds to 'prep the room'. She is taping the curtains to the walls so no one can see in. She is blocking the door with chairs. I'm starting to freak out a bit. I'm starting to feel like I'm in an episode of Dexter where he is prepping a kill room. This goes on for what feels like 15 minutes. We end up having surprisingly good sex. I think my fear of being murdered and having my organs harvested added to the excitement. By the time we are done the sun comes up and she points me back to my hotel. I meet my buddy for breakfast and tell him the story and we are both cracking up. We head for a massage at Nemos. On the way I turn to my friend and say "We have turned down sex at least 35 times in the last 20 minutes. Who would of thought!" After the massage I head to go meet the girl from the day before on Soi 6. I get there at the same time she does. I longtime her and we head back to my hotel. We ended up spending the entire day and night in my room only stopping to go to dinner. She slowly starts understanding that the whole jam her tongue down my throat is not my style and we end up slow kissing for well over 4 hours in bed while cuddling. Taking breaks to have sex. I felt like I was in high school again. She falls asleep in my arms and I know I'm in trouble with this one. I caress her back as she sleeps and she has the softest skin I have felt in my entire life. Felt like Versace silk shirt. We wake up in the morning. We both are getting ready and I'm getting sad that she is leaving. I tell her I'm going to miss her. She says "if you miss me, you know where to find me" . Ouch! Touche! I explain I have a day trip planned with me friend. I meet my buddy for breakfast and I tell him "I'm in trouble with this one!" We go to tiger park and play with tiger cubs. The heat is still getting to me and by the time I get back I'm exhausted. My friend and I agree to meet up that night to go out. She is still on my mind. My friend and I meet up later that night and head to LK Metro to check out Kink which I had been reading great things about. Upstairs was madness! Amazing! I live a few hours from Tijuana Mexico and there is a similar club there called Hong Kong that I highly recommend. I drag my friend out who has started buy drinks for our hostess and a half a dozen girls. Knowing he is on a budget too, it quickly became apparent that this is going to get ugly fast. She is still on my mind. We get out of there and make our way to Ibar. The place is packed. Being a bit of an introvert, the place is giving me anxiety I leave and go sit on a curb outside the club to people watch. I get attacked by a drunk (and homeless?) freelancer who I can't shake. No does not mean no in Thailand apparently. After 30 minutes she figures it out. Shortly after my buddy comes out looking for me and I tell him to go back in and enjoy himself. I'm going to head back to the hotel. I end up sitting on the curb most of the night in front of my hotel. A middle aged freelancer in street clothes chats me up for an hour. She convinces me to take her to my room were we proceed to have the worst sex of the trip. I did not even come close to finishing. She stays the night. I laid there all night wishing she would leave. She is still on my mind. I meet my buddy for breakfast and recapp our evenings. He meet a FL at iBar who he brought back to the hotel. He is vibing with her pretty hard and she is still in his room. I tell him the Soi 6 girl is still on my mind and I think I'm going to go try and get her again. I show up a bit before I know she gets there hoping not to miss her. She arrives and sees me and smiles. I pay her bar fine and spend the rest of the week with her. My friend does the same thing with his iBar freelancer. The week quickly comes to an end and both my friend and I are head over heels with our girls. How the hell did I get myself in this situation? Our final night approaches and we agree to all have dinner together. We meet outside the hotel and make our way to the beer garden over the water. I'm not a drinker but everyone else is drinking and my buddy is like "Come on. It's our final night. Let's celebrate". Dinner goes great. I'm one beer in and already a bit tipsy. Yes I'm a light weight. We decide to go a sit down club to watch this band that plays live are&be and dance music. After an hour or so and and few more beers I'm drunk. My buddies lady is pushing to go dancing which I do not do. We all leave the club and I was like fuck this. I stop mid walking street and start paying out my girl for her time and was telling her to have a good time. Again, I'm drunk. She puts the money in my pocket and sweetly grabs me by the hand and proceeds to get me safely back to the hotel. We shower and proceed to have the best sex of the trip. She's on top. I feel a pop and it starts feeling way too good. I tell her she should check the condom. The room is dark she gets off, checks and says we are good. We continue and I finish inside of her. HARD. She gets off and starts to freak out. The condom had in fact broken. She runs to the bathroom where she proceeds to spray herself out with the hose attached to the toilet. She comes back and I apologise. She said, you don't need to apologise, it is my fault. I tell her it is OK and and she settles into my arms. We make out the rest of the night. I have Aerosmith's "I don't want to miss a thing" playing in my head and I don't even like that fucking song. I'm fucked. She wakes up a few hours before I need to check out of the hotel. We pick up where we left off before she fell asleep and start kissing. Somehow I end up going down on her. Something I never do when I P4P. She is going nuts and orgasming over and over again for 30 minutes. She is sopping wet. She pulls me onto her and I enter her bare in missionary. We make slow love while making out for the next 20 minutes and I finish deep and hard inside of her and collapse. I finally get up to shower and pack. It is about the time she should be returning to her place but she stays to see me off. I tip her the deposit I get back from the hotel. She put me and my buddy in our cab to BKK and I feel my eyes start to tear up. I need to get my shit together. The final night we were together she had added me to her facebook messenger. She messages me to have a safe trip home and that she missed me. I said I was sad and she said not to be. We finally get to the airport. She is still on my mind. We are messaging back and forth until I get on the plane. 20+ hours later I land in LAX LOS Angeles. Nothing feels the same as it did before. I'm not happy to be home. I feel sick to my stomach. I can't sleep. Her and I continue talking over the next 2 weeks facetiming for 2-3 hours everyday. We fall more and more in love. We start talking about how soon I can come back. She has facetime sex with me 1-2 times a day. I'm fucking head over hills for this girl. I'm considering quitting my job, selling my shit and moving to Thailand. I'll make it work. For the 2 weeks since I left she stopped doing long-times. She video chats with me for an hour when she gets home from the Bar. She says she has stopped doing LT because she knows it would hurt me. That is until an evening of week 3 when she goes MIA. I know she must be doing a long time. She stops replying instantly to my messages. Replying with only one word answers hours after I sent them. After 3 days of this she tells me a regular has come to town to see her and she is on an island with him. She tells me she will be there for a week and cannot talk. It has now been 10 days. I'm losing my fucking mind. She never asked me for money. But we made plans and she said she wanted to take it slow but we joked about getting married and having kids together. Over the last week I've have been killing myself by watching Soi6 videos on YouTube where I see her in them. It kills me. I find my way to this forum where I see a few post made about her and this twists the knife even more. I'm taking this harder than my divorce a few years ago. My friends are like you have to block her on facebook and forget about her. I tell them they are right but it is like telling a crack addict to put down the pipe because they are ruining their life. I'm not stupid. I knew it would never work. I was hoping to go spend a month with her which would be long enough to get past the honeymoon period, have a fight, and be done with it. But I have no such closure. Reading stories here on this site has been helping get through the days. Reading that I'm not the only one. Reading that others have a hard time returning home and not shaking the "Pattaya illusion". For the last week I have been seeing all my local P4P regulars hoping that would help. It hasn't. I'm wondering if I should go back to Pattaya and sleep with a bunch of young Thai hotties but I worry I will be even more fucked. I'm super depressed and hoping this will pass enough time. Thailand was more than I could of expected, and at the same time much worse than I expected. My buddy is in contact with his girl. She has stopped working. He is looking at wedding rings. I'm worried about him and She is still on my mind.

  9. #27030
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    They said they were on a budget though.
    The 'budget' was for the girls, $20 each for a private ride to Pattaya is worth its weight in gold.

  10. #27029
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    Mr E makes a lot of sense.To JW, frankly it's kind of hard to believe your story. The Soi 6 girl whom you claim you are so madly in love with would not have got to 1st base with me. So now she is getting laid right and left which is her job, BTW, and not answering your messges on a timely basis. Boo Hoo. Why don't you send her some money? Perhaps she will be more faithful.
    Which part are you having troubles believing? Thanks for kicking me while I'm down. Happy holidays my friend.

  11. #27028
    Quote Originally Posted by Jw112  [View Original Post]
    Sorry if you did not like my post. All 100% true. I shared my story partly to hopefully get some closure for myself. Partly as a warning to other soft heart mongers like myself. And hopefully for some entertainment.
    I loved your post. It is always great to get a new person's perspective. My first time to Pattaya me and a wingman went from Bangkok to see a chick that was a hairdresser that I met on Thai Love Links. We only stayed one night before returning to Bangkok, but knew we would be back again soon. Once she showed us inside of Lucifer Disco we were sold on Pattaya. When the chick that my wingman had in Bangkok found out we were going she got sad and told him that she knew he would not want to see her again. He asked why not. She said because there are too many women there.

  12. #27027
    Although I don't always agree with Mr E, he makes a great deal of sense below.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    instead of hunting, seems you spent a lot of your time being hunted. I don't remember reading a case where you wanted a chick and you approached that chick. It was always a chick came pestering you and you gave in. So I find it hard to believe that you would return to Thailand and fuck "a bunch of young Thai hotties" since you didn't even do it on this trip. I kept reading "middle aged freelancer convinces me." LOL.

    <snip>

    Fell for the hard sell eh? You should have thought man if this girl wants me to go with her this bad she must be really hard up for money. e.g. Remember how bad the middle aged freelancers wanted you to go with them? Grab you and remember you: that is just what chicks do on Soi 6. Standard Operating Procedure.
    To JW,

    Frankly it's kind of hard to believe your story. The Soi 6 girl whom you claim you are so madly in love with would not have got to 1st base with me. I don't tolerate aggresive hookers plus I am well aware of the quality level of Soi 6 girls of which very few can raise my desire high enough for even a quick, cheap, roll in the hay. In any case, so she is now getting laid left & right which is her job, BTW, and not answering your messages on a timely basis. Boo Hoo. Why don't you send her some money? Perhaps she will be more faithful or at least more responsive. 555.

    But seriously, just in case you are on the level, either find a nice girl next door type (a total amateur), date her, marry her and never punt again or Man UP, look forward to your next trip, see your Soi 6 girl if you want, but only after shagging 4 or 5 other girls, and for Buddhas sake work on your passive approach of letting any girl that comes your way pick you up. If you can't turn this weakness around you should not be out there mongering. You will only get into some serious trouble and end up giving all your money away for naught.

  13. #27026
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    After spending a grand each on airfare the two of you balk at a $40 air conditioned taxi ride as soon as you walk out of the airport.
    They said they were on a budget though, so of course they would want to save where they could. Especially when you could get the same air conditioned taxi ride for $30 by going to the 4th floor, why pay $40?

    If I have not met someone on the flight to split the taxi with and it is during bus hours, then I will go downstairs to see if there is space on the next bus and how much time until it leaves. If there is no space or a considerable amount of time until the next one leaves, then I will go to the 4th floor and take a taxi. You are looking at pretty much the same time whether you take the bus or take a taxi, while the taxi is a minimum 8 times more the cost of the bus.

  14. #27025
    Quote Originally Posted by Breadman  [View Original Post]
    After spending a grand each on airfare the two of you balk at a $40 air conditioned taxi ride as soon as you walk out of the airport.
    Flight was $650 round trip. $3 for AC buss with leg room vs the $40 cab ride we took from Pattaya to BKK that sucked. Also, I was on a budget. But thanks for busting my balls.

  15. #27024
    Quote Originally Posted by Jw112  [View Original Post]
    After 2 flights and 20 hours in the air we finally arrived in Bangkok. Stepped out of the airport and between the heat and the humidity I wanted to turn around and go back home. The heat was oppressive. After asking around for options for transportation we finally find the cheap option of the tour bus ($3) and wait for that. .
    After spending a grand each on airfare the two of you balk at a $40 air conditioned taxi ride as soon as you walk out of the airport.

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