Pattaya Reports

[EihTooms]

Looking at a second trip in summer.

Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.

Cheers.

My take: The few really good-looking girls in Pattaya are so rare and practically unseen by anyone who does not go into the 3-4 specific bars on Walking Street to find, woo, cajole, entertain, overpay and audition for them, their presence does nothing to either improve or maintain the standard of looks (and quality of service) for every other P4P girl in town. That is an element not talked about here really; the trickle down effect when there are tons more very hot girls in the P4P scene, as is the case in Bangkok but not really the case in Pattaya.

In such a more abundant hot girl environment, all the other levels of girls, the above average girls, the average girls and even the slightly below average girls have to up their game in some respect in order to believably compete with or at least respond to the influence of those top tier girls. Even if a punter does not proactively pursue "top girl stunners" in Bangkok, as I rarely do, the fact is in Bangkok the above average girls have to actually be better looking and must be prepared to offer something better than basic standard fare because there is every reason for them to believe a reasonably well presented 65 year old white guy has actually seen and is as likely to score one of the better looking girls as anyone else.

Not so in Pattaya. In Pattaya, there does not appear to be any easily observable top end standard which all other levels must acknowledge and respond to that is high enough to lift the standards of the girls who are not among the handful of "top" girls apparently found in 3-4 Walking Street go-go bars. Therefore, the above average girl in Pattaya can get away with being barely acceptable to many Bangkok punters who are generally happy with the looks and quality of service offered by that level of girl in Bangkok. Mind you, I'm not just talking about looks, but also about demeanor and quality of service offered or agreed to. The girls who presumably could be considered average for Pattaya are, imo, not acceptable under most circumstances.

And there are some girls who feel perfectly at home working the streets right next to the main farang red light areas of Pattaya who are a horror show. Women who would be considered below average Pattaya girls I guess. It is extremely rare that you would see working women quite that old and sad within visible proximity of Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy or even Patpong. They wouldn't even bother showing up, it would be too humiliating for them and they couldn't earn enough to feed themselves.

YMMV, of course.

[EihTooms]

Such as openly groping them in the bar? Never.

Not unless the girl is super aggressive & insists on it. IE: grinding / dancing on me. But the "top" girls I usually go for don't behave like that anyways. They simply don't need to... since they could be standing still and every guy would still be drooling
At the very most I'll keep any physical contact casual / minimal to at least express interest & not give off the wrong impression of being disinterested.
It really just doesn't arouse/do much for me to do anything right then and there. i like the first titty grab to be when she's full naked in my bed & the first ass grab when she's about to ride me cowgirl.

In the gogos, I'm usually more focused on screening the girl to gauge personality, chemistry, whether or not she'll be good in bed, etc.
My eyes are enough to determine whether a girl has a firm ass, nice tits, flat stomach, etc. I mean. They're practically dancing naked anyways.

Well, no, that wasn't really the "uncool" part that I was asking about or what you could have meant when you said "Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others", right? I don't believe girls are getting knocked up or anyone risks those other things if they are openly groped in the bar. But if you'd rather not answer my question, no problem, of course.

As luck would have it, I took a non pro Bkk girl I met on one of the dating sites to Pattaya this past weekend because she had a rare three days off from her regular job as a barista in one of those coffee and pastry shops and she likes hanging around the beach. BTW, for a casual, family-friendly, touristy but kind of nice afternoon with a girl during the day in Pattaya, check out the Pattaya Floating Market "theme park". It is a two separate baht-bus transport and about a 25 minute ride from Walking Street. Yes, it is very touristy, but kind of fun for a daytime "date" if you pop for the longboat ride, the goofy photo of you and her in traditional Thai garb and the very short zip line ride over the river. That's about 800 baht per person and you also get front-of-the-line entry to the rides. Comes in handy when the big tour buses full of Chinese and Japanese arrive, which they did while we were there. Otherwise, 100 baht gets you in for a walk around and that would be fine for most curiosity seekers or bored vacationers in Pattaya. Tons of food options to sample.

Anyway, over this weekend we passed by Palace quite often and at night I saw several of their girls sitting on stools outside the bar wearing cocktail type dresses. We didn't go inside but I have been in that bar before. Saturday early evening we sat at the ice cream shop next to Panda and watched many of their girls entering in street clothes before 9 PM. Have to say, in neither case did I see girls notably "hotter" than some of the girls who stand at the top of the escalator in Nana Plaza beckoning you into one of those Mandarin Go-Go bars. And those Nana Plaza girls are standing up and wearing bikinis rather than sitting on stools and wearing dresses. I suppose the real knock out stunners at Palace and Panda are inside the bars much earlier than when we were taking note of the arrivals and their door girls.

[Phazze93]

Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?

Such as openly groping them in the bar? Never.

Not unless the girl is super aggressive & insists on it. IE: grinding / dancing on me. But the "top" girls I usually go for don't behave like that anyways. They simply don't need to... since they could be standing still and every guy would still be drooling
At the very most I'll keep any physical contact casual / minimal to at least express interest & not give off the wrong impression of being disinterested.
It really just doesn't arouse/do much for me to do anything right then and there. i like the first titty grab to be when she's full naked in my bed & the first ass grab when she's about to ride me cowgirl.

In the gogos, I'm usually more focused on screening the girl to gauge personality, chemistry, whether or not she'll be good in bed, etc.
My eyes are enough to determine whether a girl has a firm ass, nice tits, flat stomach, etc. I mean. They're practically dancing naked anyways.

Looking at a second trip in summer.

Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.

Cheers.

depends on what you're looking for. i think BKK is better for finding regular girls.. i mean its a bigger city after all not just a sex destination.
no smooci in pattaya yet, but i'm personally not a fan of calling girls online when you can see them in person.
plenty of SW in pattaya
no personal experience with BJ bars.
you don't HAVE to drink beer at gogos, you can get soda, water, seltzer water, etc.
yea the music in gogos is mostly shit.

presumably you're older - so i will say, if you go into top gogos, there are going to be a whole lot of young guys there you're competing with... just being honest.
seems like soi 6 would be a spot you'd enjoy. only 1 way to find out

Dude, you don't know what you're missing out on. Ain't nothing better than a skilled provider doing her thing because she wants to be there, no strings attached. 😁.

More seriously, there sure are benefits of keeping things transactional. Certainly if you don't need any more complications in your life. If a punter is not careful, "Freebies" can be incredibly expensive.

Enjoy, G.

i've honestly never been offered freebies. except maybe once?... but i paid for it in other ways... took a stunner in BKK out during the day for a nice lunch & a movie. it was one of those premium theaters w/ daybeds. ye we fucked in the theater. movie was dogshit (murder on the orient express). thank god i imagined the scenario and brought a condom with me

but i have had working girls make attempts at being "girlfriends" to which i usually make it very clear that i'm not looking for a girlfriend.
just friends is ok... but then again, what is there to talk about with these girls? really not much. language barrier is already a pain in the ass as it is.

[Penguin69]

Looking at a second trip in summer.

Previously experienced Bangkok and had some good-to-great experiences with mainly hookups on wechat, smooci, and SWs, BJ bars etc. I'm not really a gogo bar guy but I can see appeal: I'm not so young and can do without the shite music etc. Also, I fear I'd let beer affect performance. This said, does Pattaya have anything for me that I can't find in BKK? I realise it's by the sea but I wouldn't really need beaches and sea. Are lower average prices worth going for? Have read loads of reports of both places but I'm not convinced it's worth my while after what I've experienced in BKK.

Cheers.

[EihTooms]

Top girls aren't going to appreciate being groped & treated like sex toys or you asking them to bareback the first time you guys meet, etc. Besides, not cool to knock these girls up, spread shit around & ruin the fun for others.

Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?

[Goferring]

i know you're comment wasn't directed at me, but since my post sparked it...
i'd never take a session for free. better to keep it transactional and avoid it becoming anything more than services rendered.
prepared to pay because I have the cash to pay & find no pleasure in leaving expectations up for interpretation

Dude, you don't know what you're missing out on. Ain't nothing better than a skilled provider doing her thing because she wants to be there, no strings attached. 😁.

More seriously, there sure are benefits of keeping things transactional. Certainly if you don't need any more complications in your life. If a punter is not careful, "Freebies" can be incredibly expensive.

Enjoy, G.

[Goferring]

No. I am merely putting myself in a 20 year old hooker's shoes.

All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.

I just don't see the difference between being "ick" because of age, looks or behaviour. Girl's react to guys based upon their preferences across all of them.

[Phazze93]

This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?

Lets be honest. Doesn't matter how good looking the customer is. Most of these girls probably don't want to be banging random dudes all night.
But I'm the customer and I'm paying her for her time. I'm not going to hold her past our agreed upon time but I'm going to do what I can to make the time enjoyable. NOT for her sake. For mine.
If my attempt at bringing some level of enjoyment for her gives ME a far better experience. Then I'm going to do it.

lets be clear, I'm not talking about making a girlfriend cum because I love her oh so much... on that note, find me a working girl that WANTS to be treated like a hooker/sex object... and ill show you a girl with a few screws loose

and yea. i'm still young & relatively good looking so our perspective/experiences might be different.

if you read my post, i specifically said... there isn't 1 specific factor thats going to make you shine like a diamond. kempt nails... smelling nice... small factors. but whats the flip side? smelling bad with long curly nails? you want the girl to hold her breath while you're fucking her?

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

per my post... i mentioned having money being "an obvious pre-requisite". my point is that you can't just show up with money & expect stunners falling all over your dick. unless you're Jeff Bezos and you're gonna retire them after 1 session lol

Funny how the same guys talk about all the undesirable chicks in the bars and the gogos that they would not give the chance to treat them right, but all the sexy desirable chicks would be putty in their hands if they were to be treated decent. Go over and let one of those chicks you don't find so attractive to service you. Then you might see how the 20 year old sexy gogo chick really feels when she is treated decent. All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.

yea i've already tried. its like dating below your league.
4th night, cute girl from Whats Up gogo. Not my usual type, but she was "girl next door" cute.
Putty in my hands.... I could have gotten away with playing starfish/corpse. had to ask her to leave after 1st pop short time.

but that experience... was simply BORING. At my age, i still enjoy a challenge. Hence my post which was in regards to STUNNERS.

Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?

i know you're comment wasn't directed at me, but since my post sparked it...
i'd never take a session for free. better to keep it transactional and avoid it becoming anything more than services rendered.
prepared to pay because I have the cash to pay & find no pleasure in leaving expectations up for interpretation

[Mr Enternational]

Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?

No. I am merely putting myself in a 20 year old hooker's shoes. I guess if you were a 20 year old male hooker you would not be able to wait until the 70 year old chick that treats you half decent turns you on and makes you cum. And that session would be on the house!

Funny how the same guys talk about all the undesirable chicks in the bars and the gogos that they would not give the chance to treat them right, but all the sexy desirable chicks would be putty in their hands if they were to be treated decent. Go over and let one of those chicks you don't find so attractive to service you. Then you might see how the 20 year old sexy gogo chick really feels when she is treated decent. All the treated decent in the world will not make up for the ick factor.

[Goferring]

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

Are you suggesting hard core hookers never put out for free? Or go the extra mile for someone who treats them half decently?

[Mogwai]

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

Just because we pay them doesn't mean we cannot turn them on or make them cum. Of course it helps when you're still young and handsome but when you're old and ugly you can compensate that with your experience, tongue and fingers.

[Mr Enternational]

OMG. You still have a lot to learn my friend.

I am just not a disillusioned monger. Show up without money and see how far those nice clothes get you with a 20 year old. I am only 46 right now. But maybe when I am 70 I will see the light and learn the lesson.

[Mogwai]

This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?

OMG. You still have a lot to learn my friend.

[Mr Enternational]

**Want a girl to give better service? TRY to turn her on / make her cum.

This post was a joke out of fantasyland right? You are a 20 year old stud at the university. You want a 70 year old wrinkled up drunk bat with nice nails and nice clothes wearing the most expensive perfume trying to turn you on and make you cum, or do you want her to hurry and finish and get off of you so you can get your money and go hang out with people your own age?

[Phazze93]

1st trip to Pattaya
9 nights
Nov 16 - 25.

Overall tips / advice for getting stunners (not exclusive to Pattaya).

*A few additional points I forgot to mention*.

**Whether you're physically attractive or not. How you present yourself still matters.
Dress like a bum & expect to be treated like one.
Don't try too hard or risk coming off as a weirdo or looking like a newbie.
Just keep your outfit clean & simple / appropriate.
Maintain basic grooming habits.
-brush your teeth (nobody likes bad breath).
-Shave your face if you can't confidently rock a beard. (scraggly hairs look gross).
-Smell nice. Don't have to wear cologne but at least don't be smelly. So shower before you go out.
-Want a good BJ? At least keep your shit trimmed & neat. (girls don't want to pick pubes out of their mouth or have your rough pubes roughing up their face).
-Nails, keep them trimmed. Nobody wants to feel like you're shanking them while fucking.

At the end of the day, these girls are going to have to walk out of the GoGo with you in front of all her friends, mamasans, customers, in-public, hotel, etc.
And for many customers, more likely than not, these girls would be out of your league if they weren't working girls. So try your best to bridge that gap haha.
Imagine. How would you like to be seen with a fat / ugly / unkempt looking girl with everybody knowing that you're about to fuck that monstrosity for money?

We're talking about stunners after all. You don't get to be the best by fucking the worst.

**Want a girl to give better service? TRY to turn her on / make her cum.
While lots of these girls are lesbians / into tomboys and won't be attracted to guys in general. Do you really expect to get good service if you just lie there and say "get to it"?
-assuming the girl is clean & is ok with it, don't hesitate to go down on her or at least start with a bit of foreplay to ease her into it.
Being a starfish goes both ways.
-don't want to go down on her? Bring some toys. No need to get crazy since not all girls are into kinky shit. But what girl wouldn't appreciate a bullet?
Always. If you can make the girl cum, you'll be better off than if you can't.
-if you like to fuck hard, first start slow until she seems comfortable. Otherwise you risk her trying to rush the session & get the fuck out ASAP.
What working girl wants you to immediately mount her like you're an aspiring bull rider?
-if you're into something specific. Ask first if she's cool with it.
EX: just like how you probably don't want her to stick her thumb in your ass w / o asking. The reverse is likely to be true too.
Hair pulling. Lots of girls wear hair extensions so don't fuck up by tearing her extensions out LOL! I'd imagine its a quick way to end a session.
Choking. Uhh she's being paid to fuck a stranger that might or might not be a psychopath serial killer. Don't scare them.

In general, just like with a regular girl. Chemistry doesn't just happen w / o at least some effort on your part.

#2 Cheers you fuckers.