Pattaya Reports

[DropDoos]

If it's that easy to get good experiences from TF girls at the price of a gogo barfine why on earth did you spend so much money on escort girls (I saw your report on the Smooci thread), given that you probably paid around 10 thousand bahts for so so girls on multiple occasions (yes I know how are the girls that are advertised on smooci, last year I sampled 4 of them, only one was a good pick) ? For the price you paid and the quality that you get from Smooci I'm sure that you could get a lot better from a gogo. The only downside is that you have to go there, chat the girl first and be ready to move to another place if you don't find what you want (but then it's still better than having a girl knocking at your door and looking nothing like the pictures that she did put on a website). As for TF, it's very much time consuming and you have to go through all the crap girls that are on the site for other reasons than yours.

I worded myself badly in that post. I have been going on about barfines for about half of my short posting history, apologies for that. But with the price / quality I mentioned, I specifically meant the additional costs of visiting Go-Go bars which always add up on the side as well as other factors which I see as hassle. The barfine which now seems to be consistently over 1000 is a major deal breaker for me. I ain't fucking the barowner, why would I pay that when I can get a lay from TF. Then the drinks costs and lady drinks. Then the constantly hassle from mamas, and the girls begging for lady drinks for their 'sisters'. The horrible 'music'. Those Go-Gos with nudity and shows were fun to see as a first timer but now it got old too. It adds up to up to not enjoying the main selling point of the Go-Gos, meeting the girls and being able to assess them before asking for a takeaway that is.

I have as you rightfully noticed not much of a qualm spending more on a girl themselves. To a limit of course. Aint giving 10 k to a Freelancer for ST, I am not Japanese. That can largely be put down because I come here for holidays and not an expat (I have a hard time assessing if this forum is mostly long term residents or vacationers like me, but I feel the first). If I was living here, Smoochi would likely remain largely unused as I wouldn't be able to afford to smack down 10 k for a long time session constantly.

Apps like TF (and Smoochi in Bangkok for Escorts) give me convenience that I can just sit in my bath tub with a beer in my hand arranging my next bang. I was not longer than an hour at most busy with arranging the next bang. In Pattaya it is insanely easy, the WG's outnumber the non WG's by a vast majority. I tended to start arranging at a time between 12:00 to 15:00 at the latest for the night. That is when the best looking ones pop up in my experience. I also got myself premium (yep, I know I am complaining about barfines but get premium for a website). That is because the INSANE amount of messages they tend to get. You'll put on top of her inbox increasing the chance she notices you exponentially. Be polite, but also direct, asking for instance 'what are you here for on TF?' which nets you the answer you seek very soon and you don't waste too much time. I loved the directness ('I am a freelancer' on the third message LOL). I noticed that many of the better looking girls do have age limits set up which is usually somewhere in the forties. I do not know how negotiable that is though I doubt they would turn a man somewhat above that away when he presents himself properly.

In Bangkok it is different as there are many more non WG. This adds up to the time consumed but has its advantages, the chance of scoring a 'for free'. It definitely was not done in an hour like in Pattaya for me. The better approach there would be to build up some contacts before you arrive. I didn't because I was insanely busy at work before my holiday. Still managed to pull a freebie there but I feel that is more down to luck with my near to non existent game. I also understand why one can't be bothered to do that especially on a shorter trip. I opted for the Smoochi route there more often this time. Convenient, generally good experience barring the #3 I reviewed in the escorts thread. And relatively expensive. Up to you if you feel it is value, which seemingly from your experiences you do not.

[Crocodilexp]

Then becomes a simple choice do I want one fuck with the non value hottie that is a lot of fun, or do I want fucks on two separate occasions with a bargain basement girl (or we could get 3 fucks with a street walker).

I really wish agogo bars were filled with hotties. Unfortunately, these days, a typical agogo rarely has even one girl that would favorably compare to any of the top 5 in a single BTS carriage. As for "a lot of fun", there's even less of a chance for that. In fact, I find that cheap girls are more fun, since I can pay them a meaningful extra if they perform, or cut my losses if they don't. The 1000 baht freelancer would happily spend another hour for a 500 baht tip, whereas the agogo girl making 3000 baht ST won't: it makes more sense to wrap it up quickly and look for another customer.

[Mr Enternational]

Then becomes a simple choice do I want one fuck with the non value hottie that is a lot of fun, or do I want fucks on two separate occasions with a bargain basement girl (or we could get 3 fucks with a street walker).

Why is it assumed that the non value hottie is a lot of fun? Maybe the bargain basement girl is more fun. For some reason, you have also assumed that the bargain basement girl is not a hottie.

Others don't give a shit about quality of the looks, and want value. We can't complain. Each to their own priority. Obviously the rich man is not so value conscious, his money won't run out soon. The value guys keep trying to argue the price should be the same for the service, regardless if girl is stunner or a hag. Obviously this is dumb assertion.

Funny. I thought some of the richest guys in the game (Warren Buffet and Bill Gates) are value conscious, and their money is sure not to run out any sooner than all of ours put together.

This is where you shoot yourself in the foot. The problem that I find with your argument is that it assumes that every non value chick is a hottie. Anybody that has been in a gogo knows that the place is not full of hotties. Regular gogo goers on this board even complain that they can go into several and not find that hottie. Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it the usual case for all chicks that work in the same gogo to go for, if not the same price then somewhat close to it?

So when all is said and done, you can also get a hag from a gogo and it will cost you the same as getting that hottie. In these venues cost has nothing to do with how the person looks as your post would have us believe. Your post is pretty faulty since it leads us to assume there are no hags where the non value chicks are found and there are no hotties where the bargain basement chicks can be found.

[Paolo99]

I can afford it and my white face has no trouble getting inside Go Go bars. Except why would I pay 1000-1500 baht Barfine + drinks while I can get a girl from ThaiFriendly for the price of a barfine in my hotel room without even having to go out? I really struggle to see the appeal in Go Gos anymore now. They were fun a couple of times but I find the price / quality to be underwhelming.

If it's that easy to get good experiences from TF girls at the price of a gogo barfine why on earth did you spend so much money on escort girls (I saw your report on the Smooci thread), given that you probably paid around 10 thousand bahts for so so girls on multiple occasions (yes I know how are the girls that are advertised on smooci, last year I sampled 4 of them, only one was a good pick) ? For the price you paid and the quality that you get from Smooci I'm sure that you could get a lot better from a gogo. The only downside is that you have to go there, chat the girl first and be ready to move to another place if you don't find what you want (but then it's still better than having a girl knocking at your door and looking nothing like the pictures that she did put on a website). As for TF, it's very much time consuming and you have to go through all the crap girls that are on the site for other reasons than yours.

[Syzygies]

IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.

Ha ha. Point taken. Guys look for "Value" is another way of saying they do not have unlimited funds.

Then becomes a simple choice do I want one fuck with the non value hottie that is a lot of fun, or do I want fucks on two separate occasions with a bargain basement girl (or we could get 3 fucks with a street walker).

Simple choice of choosing quality or quantity just Like I do for my coffee. So far I can afford a better quality coffee, but always look for a good special deal. Am I going to pass up a top wine because it is 3 times the price of the house ordinary taste red? Probably not.

Am I going to pass up a super girl just because she costs me double an el cheapo girl or maybe even triple the street walker. No way. I would take her once in 3 days instead of the street walker 3 times. I try it all, but so far the street walkers are not so memorable. One was even a really good fuck but saggy body. Got bored when she started to want more money because I was not quick, and bored with her looks anyway. So quit her. No keepers. I do find keepers in the gogo bars.

Others don't give a shit about quality of the looks, and want value. We can't complain. Each to their own priority. Obviously the rich man is not so value conscious, his money won't run out soon. The value guys keep trying to argue the price should be the same for the service, regardless if girl is stunner or a hag. Obviously this is dumb assertion. Price is not performance based at all. We have to just accept it, or simply reject the higher cost which many do.

Japanese guys rule the market these days, am I wrong, and they are dominating the gogos that I have been to recently. So whatever the look thy want and the price they are happy to pay. I see some bars have very few Farangs in there. The scene must be does not suit them much any more. My version of value superior girls is getting hard to find. I take new girls less and less.

Reason is combination of cost, lack of time to take a gamble, fussiness, etc. And ability to evaluate the target in more detail. If the gogo girl was a real stunner and her personality okay, then I would take her like a shot, price no big deal. Just has to be sufficiently appealing.

If it just a piece of meat (like chuck steak) then guys want value. LOL Guys that are looking only for service could best lie back blind folded, and enjoy the sensations, but keep the hands off in case of finding something not appealing to the touch.

[Blanquiceleste]

Some gogo girl private parts can appear better but are not always available.

SNIP

I do have some PM info regards some non-Thai girls if interested).

How is this post in any way contributing to the discussion? Perhaps best to move it to the thread specifically set up as Advise for Indians visiting Thailand.

[Java Man]

I arrived Tuesday and am having a Blast. There's not enough guys on the ground and the girls are Hungry! They're making me feel like a han-sum man. I keep getting pulled into Soi 6 bars like never before. LOL Best start to my Pattaya trip yet.

[Nickc]

Go-Gos are for guys who have no sense of value. The gogo girl private parts aren't better than the beer bar girl private parts, IMHO.

Some gogo girl private parts can appear better but are not always available.

I saw a girl outside Pandas Go-Go I loved) went in and ordered drinks. I was later told this girl does not barfine. Waste of time.

Last visited Pattaya 3 years back. Been some changes since. Still Russian Tourists bringing money to Pattaya. NB All the Russian dancers are strictly above board, no take outs )

What was noticeable is there's now 3 or 4 quite substantial Indian clubs right on Walking st. The biggest is Nashaa which has 2 PR areas where some Western girls hang out. Loud Indian Music and Indian men dancing wildly on stages. Just a few working girls. Not my scene. Those Indian Clubs would pack out maybe 2 thousand Indians every night. With these clubs theres a noticeable influx of Indian Tourists. Many, many more packing out Walking st. Some of them come with problems.

Saw one drunk fat Indian grope a Thai Girl and then when she responded he tried to slap her. All this was right on Walking st. Wow. I couldn't believe it. 3 Thai Mamas came from no-where and he took some real kickboxing to the head and body. These women could really fight. He just wouldn't walk away and drunkenly stood there with his fists up so they did him again and again. What a dumb fuck. His Indian mate was trying trying to join in, I stopped that, I just pushed him away.

Theres a cultural conflict there. The Western 'volunteer' police should be addressing this. I repeatedly saw Indians making nasty comments and harassing girls right on Walking st. Its not the Russian's or Expats causing a lot of problems. Maybe they need an Indian 'Volunteer' policeman ))

Indians complain all over Thailand they don't get into a lot of Clubs. Now I can understand why they don't let them in) LOL. MIXX Bangkok rarely lets them in. MIXX Pattaya is sometimes that way to. Was in MIXX Pattaya last week, theres a mix of non-working tourists there. Saw three Indians who just couldn't understand there were just Russian tourist girls on a night out and kept harassing them. The bar staff actually had to push off the Indians to the other side the venue. And then they had a big angry sulk.

In Bangkok taxi drivers get a commission if they takes passengers to 'Shock89'. So they take Western tourists there seeking a dance club. Its an Indian Club. Again the Indians can't tell the difference between working and non-working. Saw one little Indian groping an Aussie girls butt right on the dance stage. Her boyfriend just pushed him head first off the stage. Sorry I laughed.

Excuse my rant, its just cultural. Thailand is not India. They need to understand that

Cheers Nickc.

I do have some PM info regards some non-Thai girls if interested).

[Lefeu]

...IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.

Well, your opinion is off. I have taken more than 20 trips to Pattaya over the past 20 years or so. I loved the gogo bars at the beginning, as they had the most eye candy. But over the past 6 or 7 years, the value just was not there anymore. One has to spend an arm and a leg to get a girl out of a gogo bar. I still visit them once in a while for the fun of it, but rarely take a girl from there anymore.

[Blanquiceleste]

Go-Gos are for guys who have no sense of value. The gogo girl private parts aren't better than the beer bar girl private parts, IMHO.

I think the fundamental disconnect here is that you might be looking only to drop a load in some girl's private parts. Others might be looking for more.

Over the years I have had very good success with beer bar girls. In fact my reports detail them all. A few BMs have also seen my selections. But the downside to this is the amount of leg work it takes to find that diamond in the rough. I have in one of my previous posts also admitted that beer bar girls are the best VFM, but not necessarily top shelf girls.

[Lou32]

I can afford it and my white face has no trouble getting inside Go Go bars. Except why would I pay 1000-1500 baht Barfine + drinks while I can get a girl from ThaiFriendly for the price of a barfine in my hotel room without even having to go out? I really struggle to see the appeal in Go Gos anymore now. They were fun a couple of times but I find the price / quality to be underwhelming.

Go-Gos are for guys who have no sense of value. The gogo girl private parts aren't better than the beer bar girl private parts, IMHO.

[Banana Boi]

IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.

Or Cheap Charlie's.

BB this is the one that really caught my eye. Surely you have seen this picture too on FB.

IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.

Yes I am pretty sure I have spotted that girl on Soi 6.

Another fly by Soi 6 last night at 6 pm. More girls than a bit earlier but still nothing spectacular. One of my girls has decided to move to one of those mixed girl / ladyboy bars. I asked her why and she said because she is the only hot girl there. Met up with our mutual friend at Pussy Club. Talent so bad I decided food was more important.

I have also walked through Soi 25 a couple times this past week. Is it me or are there more and more ladyboys on that street. Nothing of any interest. Spotted a couple of half decent one on Soi Honey. Can't remember if it was at Paradise or Up to You. Also was one part way down the soi past those 2 places. I notice that Paradise or Up to You has some ladyboys now too.

One group of girls are the massage girls around Soi Buakhao and Soi Lengkee on the SE side beside the 7-11. 2 places and there can be a gem there at times. Spotted one but she was too busy eating and I saw her shoo an old Farang away. I'll check her out soon. The other massage place that can have ok girls is on the NW corner beside the Subway. Forgot the name but it starts with an 'A' and has a red sign. You can find a gem there on occasion.

[Blanquiceleste]

I can afford it and my white face has no trouble getting inside Go Go bars. Except why would I pay 1000-1500 baht Barfine + drinks while I can get a girl from ThaiFriendly for the price of a barfine in my hotel room without even having to go out? I really struggle to see the appeal in Go Gos anymore now. They were fun a couple of times but I find the price / quality to be underwhelming.

Are you in any way suggesting that the girls you get from TF are comparable to the top girls inside the top Gogo bars?

For sake of clarity, we are talking about looks and body. Attitude, chemistry and performance are entirely subjective. YMMV was coined for this very purpose.

[DropDoos]

IMHO guys not visiting Gogo bars fall into two categories. Ones who can't afford it and ones who are not let in. Anyone else is lying. 5555.

I can afford it and my white face has no trouble getting inside Go Go bars. Except why would I pay 1000-1500 baht Barfine + drinks while I can get a girl from ThaiFriendly for the price of a barfine in my hotel room without even having to go out? I really struggle to see the appeal in Go Gos anymore now. They were fun a couple of times but I find the price / quality to be underwhelming.

[Blanquiceleste]

A few have pointed out that some of my postings only have pics of the girls lifted from the website, so perhaps then the whole encounter was all a fantasy. So now I have resorted to finding stunt doubles for the girls. I was able to find a girl who sorta maybe looks like Mook from Sapphire to pose for some photos for me. I only had to pay her a free meal. All to make the story above more believable. I think I did a decent job. The random girl looks maybe 70-80% like Mook? You can compare yourself.

This could be a very interesting pastime for some people who have nothing better to do than criticize and find faults with others posts. I am reminded of the childhood puzzle "Spot 10 differences".